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Approved Log My Cut Cycle Log: Road to 200lbs or less! My first cut ever.

kcates said:
run primo with it to keep e2 down
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I’d be interested to see how this goes, as a fellow high aromatizer. I failed to get bloodwork to prove my primo was working as an ai for me, but I didn’t have high e2 sides.
LevButlerov said:
you have no portable toilets? not good
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Hahahaha. The thing they didn’t tell you about my job😂😂😂. I could take a stealth poop just about anywhere and you wouldn’t even know. But honestly I have been subconsciously eating in ways to avoid that for quite a long time
 
toddthelineman said:
Hahahaha. The thing they didn’t tell you about my job😂😂😂. I could take a stealth poop just about anywhere and you wouldn’t even know. But honestly I have been subconsciously eating in ways to avoid that for quite a long time
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right the stealth is the important one :D
 
toddthelineman said:
I’d be interested to see how this goes, as a fellow high aromatizer. I failed to get bloodwork to prove my primo was working as an ai for me, but I didn’t have high e2 sides.

Hahahaha. The thing they didn’t tell you about my job😂😂😂. I could take a stealth poop just about anywhere and you wouldn’t even know. But honestly I have been subconsciously eating in ways to avoid that for quite a long time
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If it really happens I can always go in the trailer and put a contractor bag in a 5 gallon bucket and take a shit. Then tie it all up and dispose of it. That's the emergency protocol.
 
toddthelineman said:
I’d be interested to see how this goes, as a fellow high aromatizer. I failed to get bloodwork to prove my primo was working as an ai for me, but I didn’t have high e2 sides.

Hahahaha. The thing they didn’t tell you about my job😂😂😂. I could take a stealth poop just about anywhere and you wouldn’t even know. But honestly I have been subconsciously eating in ways to avoid that for quite a long time
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I have had high e2 sides before there very mild and it was mostly sleep issues. Now I have been on gh. I don't get sleep issues and on past test 3 months ago taking 180mg test cyp weekly I had my highest e2 reading at a 100 and I never even felt it. I was guessing by feeling I was going to be in the 60 range like I am now. So GH I think inhibits sides. I understand the body uses estrogen I the production of igf-1 so maybe because I am making more igf-1 it was using up estrogen. I don't know for sure just a thought. As I understand the main use for the primo is to control the estrogen with the side benefits of some anabolics?
 
This last month I have gotten so many compliments on how great I am looking at the gym from multiple people some who trained at the last gym I went to and came over to the new gym and some from people I have only know at the new gym. During this time is when I started the gh and focusing more on bodybuilding workouts then strength. Its hard for me to see the change but I do see it around my stomach. I see some detail around my sides and less stomach fat in the mornings before I eat. Once I eat I feel like my stomach sticks out. Lol
 
kcates said:
This last month I have gotten so many compliments on how great I am looking at the gym from multiple people some who trained at the last gym I went to and came over to the new gym and some from people I have only know at the new gym. During this time is when I started the gh and focusing more on bodybuilding workouts then strength. Its hard for me to see the change but I do see it around my stomach. I see some detail around my sides and less stomach fat in the mornings before I eat. Once I eat I feel like my stomach sticks out. Lol
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It’s paying off!
 
kcates said:
This last month I have gotten so many compliments on how great I am looking at the gym from multiple people some who trained at the last gym I went to and came over to the new gym and some from people I have only know at the new gym. During this time is when I started the gh and focusing more on bodybuilding workouts then strength. Its hard for me to see the change but I do see it around my stomach. I see some detail around my sides and less stomach fat in the mornings before I eat. Once I eat I feel like my stomach sticks out. Lol
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lets update some pics with you here please :D we'd love to see @kcates
 
Here is a pic I did myself.
 

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I am changing my bpc-157 back down to .5mg 2x daily injecting in the belly now instead of near my elbow tendons since all pain in tendons and shoulder is gone. I will continue it for the next month. July 1st I will quit the bpc157 and the tb500 at that time.
 
On another note during the time when I reduced my testosterone from 180 mg down to 140mg a week During this time is when I had started losing motivation and drive at work. Now that I am running a cycle and testosterone is going back up I am starting to feel better again. I am going to keep an eye on things and see how it goes. I may need a higher dose of test then 140mg for better mental health. I guess we will see. Just an observation now that my mental feeling is getting better again.
 
I also wanted to try out subq injections of testosterone to see if it would help with better management of my red blood cells, hematicrit, and estrogen. So I did a few and I got an allergic reaction to probably the carrier oils. I have 2 big oval red spots on each side of my belly. Those spots are itchy like poison ivy. Soni stopped the subq and went back IM. I guess sub q is just not for me. Oh well at least I tried.
 
kcates said:
Here is my updated training log dump.
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I dont know how but didnt see this training :D you pushing hard!
kcates said:
I am changing my bpc-157 back down to .5mg 2x daily injecting in the belly now instead of near my elbow tendons since all pain in tendons and shoulder is gone. I will continue it for the next month. July 1st I will quit the bpc157 and the tb500 at that time.
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bpc changes you feel better now?
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On another note during the time when I reduced my testosterone from 180 mg down to 140mg a week During this time is when I had started losing motivation and drive at work. Now that I am running a cycle and testosterone is going back up I am starting to feel better again. I am going to keep an eye on things and see how it goes. I may need a higher dose of test then 140mg for better mental health. I guess we will see. Just an observation now that my mental feeling is getting better again.
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why not go up on test to 200?
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I also wanted to try out subq injections of testosterone to see if it would help with better management of my red blood cells, hematicrit, and estrogen. So I did a few and I got an allergic reaction to probably the carrier oils. I have 2 big oval red spots on each side of my belly. Those spots are itchy like poison ivy. Soni stopped the subq and went back IM. I guess sub q is just not for me. Oh well at least I tried.
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did you check this site for subq maybe you doing it wrong? https://trtinjections.com
kcates said:
Keeping an eye on blood pressure. Looking good.
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it looks good :D
kcates said:
Definitely gaming some weight on this sustenon and deca. Probably just water and glycogen right now. I hit 240 lbs for the first time in over a year. I don't feel bloated with water still feel good.
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240 is a good wait but bloat we need to work on!
kcates said:
I am feeling strong today in the gym. My last leg exercises are feeling really strong and I am not worn out. I am feeling good. Let's see how I feel through the work day. I am wondering still if my test got to low at 140mg to keep me not feeling low T symptoms.
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leg day is a win! we need to bump test up

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I feel better from the bpc for sure.

I don't think your following what I was trying to make notes of for myself. 180mg was while I was on TRT. All about that is in my logs previously going from 200- 160-180-140mg. That was all dealing with hematocrit, red blood cells and eatrogen. I been dealing with this for the past year. Its all in my log if u want to go back and read it all but it's over the last year I been dealing with this. Now I am currently using 350mg of test and 200 deca this week. I was just saying I started feeling bad when I went down to 140mg. I couldn't figure it out. I didn't think it was the test because I still had high total t. Now I have increased my test back up. I am feeling good again. So maybe it was my test being to low. I will keep an eye on things and see how things go during cycle and afterwards when I reduce it back down again.

I did the subq injections. I did research in the issue. some people get a histamine reaction to the carrier oils doing sub q. Apparently I am one of those people. I went back to im injections and those are fine. I am still itchy on my stomach where I did those 2 sub q shots though.

I don't feel like I am holding water but I am not gaining muscle that fast so it's got to be some fluid and glycogen. I don't feel like it is though. That's all I was saying.
 
kcates said:
I feel better from the bpc for sure.

I don't think your following what I was trying to make notes of for myself. 180mg was while I was on TRT. All about that is in my logs previously going from 200- 160-180-140mg. That was all dealing with hematocrit, red blood cells and eatrogen. I been dealing with this for the past year. Its all in my log if u want to go back and read it all but it's over the last year I been dealing with this. Now I am currently using 350mg of test and 200 deca this week. I was just saying I started feeling bad when I went down to 140mg. I couldn't figure it out. I didn't think it was the test because I still had high total t. Now I have increased my test back up. I am feeling good again. So maybe it was my test being to low. I will keep an eye on things and see how things go during cycle and afterwards when I reduce it back down again.

I did the subq injections. I did research in the issue. some people get a histamine reaction to the carrier oils doing sub q. Apparently I am one of those people. I went back to im injections and those are fine. I am still itchy on my stomach where I did those 2 sub q shots though.

I don't feel like I am holding water but I am not gaining muscle that fast so it's got to be some fluid and glycogen. I don't feel like it is though. That's all I was saying.
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kcates said:
I feel better from the bpc for sure.
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this is good :D
 
kcates said:
I don't think your following what I was trying to make notes of for myself. 180mg was while I was on TRT. All about that is in my logs previously going from 200- 160-180-140mg. That was all dealing with hematocrit, red blood cells and eatrogen. I been dealing with this for the past year. Its all in my log if u want to go back and read it all but it's over the last year I been dealing with this. Now I am currently using 350mg of test and 200 deca this week. I was just saying I started feeling bad when I went down to 140mg. I couldn't figure it out. I didn't think it was the test because I still had high total t. Now I have increased my test back up. I am feeling good again. So maybe it was my test being to low. I will keep an eye on things and see how things go during cycle and afterwards when I reduce it back down again.
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yes im not following properly sorry :D I do read but the way you wrote it I though you dropper to under 200 again
350 test is a good dose
kcates said:
I did the subq injections. I did research in the issue. some people get a histamine reaction to the carrier oils doing sub q. Apparently I am one of those people. I went back to im injections and those are fine. I am still itchy on my stomach where I did those 2 sub q shots though.
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IM stick to them :D
kcates said:
I don't feel like I am holding water but I am not gaining muscle that fast so it's got to be some fluid and glycogen. I don't feel like it is though. That's all I was saying.
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got you :D
 
LevButlerov said:
yes im not following properly sorry :D I do read but the way you wrote it I though you dropper to under 200 again
350 test is a good dose

IM stick to them :D

got you :D
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I am not the best writer. I write how it seems right in my head . My wife say I write like I talk. I am not blaming you. I know u read it. I know also u read a lot of logs and I am sure you can't remember it all specially when I am referencing things that have happened over a year. These are notes mainly for myself to log what is going on in my journeys. Yeah, sub q on the steroids is not for me. I handle bac water fine but oil made me itchy as hell. I feel like I have poison ivy. I need to take some Benadryl see if that helps. Until it all settled down I am going to even shoot my pepetides in my butt cheeks and let everything calm down on the stomach. Once things calm down I will then go back to injecting pepetides in my belly fat.
 
Today's food intake: pre workout 50 gram protein shake with honey.
Meal after training: 12 ounces of ground beef, 12 ounces of rice, and 6 eggs.
Afternoon: 3 rice cakes with honey and 60 gram protein shake.
Dinner! 1.08 lbs of grilled chicken breast.
My calculated total of protein today is = 361.
 
kcates said:
Today's food intake: pre workout 50 gram protein shake with honey.
Meal after training: 12 ounces of ground beef, 12 ounces of rice, and 6 eggs.
Afternoon: 3 rice cakes with honey and 60 gram protein shake.
Dinner! 1.08 lbs of grilled chicken breast.
My calculated total of protein today is = 361.
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good intake not bad :D but seems high protein low fat? you feel ok?
 
kcates said:
I am not the best writer. I write how it seems right in my head . My wife say I write like I talk. I am not blaming you. I know u read it. I know also u read a lot of logs and I am sure you can't remember it all specially when I am referencing things that have happened over a year. These are notes mainly for myself to log what is going on in my journeys. Yeah, sub q on the steroids is not for me. I handle bac water fine but oil made me itchy as hell. I feel like I have poison ivy. I need to take some Benadryl see if that helps. Until it all settled down I am going to even shoot my pepetides in my butt cheeks and let everything calm down on the stomach. Once things calm down I will then go back to injecting pepetides in my belly fat.
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I understand you :D and the sub q not always good, lets stick to IM
 
kcates said:
I am feeling strong today in the gym. My last leg exercises are feeling really strong and I am not worn out. I am feeling good. Let's see how I feel through the work day. I am wondering still if my test got to low at 140mg to keep me not feeling low T symptoms.
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Gotta love that feeling of not getting worn out even at the end of the session!
 
Update on all that is going on lately. My appetite has been destroyed not a 100% sure why but I think it has been the cag fully settling in and 2mg may have been to much. I have been getting irritation at the injection sites and marble size lumps from the motsc. I stopped using the Motsc a few days ago cause of that continuing. I have started 300mg of primo with my sustenon and deca. I have increased to 6 IU of GH. My skin has been tingle and a bit more sensitive since going 6 IU. I have started today using 10 mg cardarine daily.
 
kcates said:
Update on all that is going on lately. My appetite has been destroyed not a 100% sure why but I think it has been the cag fully settling in and 2mg may have been to much. I have been getting irritation at the injection sites and marble size lumps from the motsc. I stopped using the Motsc a few days ago cause of that continuing. I have started 300mg of primo with my sustenon and deca. I have increased to 6 IU of GH. My skin has been tingle and a bit more sensitive since going 6 IU. I have started today using 10 mg cardarine daily.
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time to cut the doses a bit on tirz and cag :D
 
kcates said:
Yeah, what do you know about tingly/sensitive skin on GH? I started 6 IU and I got tingling and sensitive skins on my arms and thighs. It's note bad but more annoying then anything. It don't feel good or bad I just notice it.
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best thing is to lower dose back to 2 ius :D
 
kcates said:
I went back down to 5iu where I didn't have the symptoms prior see if in 1-2 weeks it goes away.
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lets see how it goes :D
 
kcates said:
I also feel estrogen is probably creeping up. Started .5mg arimidex going to use EOD. I was trying to wait until I did blood work on Thursday but felt like going ahead starting still going to do blood work Thursday and then maybe again in 4 weeks.
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i would be careful guessing on arimidex use :D
 
I run high estrogen already last time I was using 180 mg of test cyp for TRT I was at 100 e2 sensitive. Probably should have been on it then. I feel the high estrogen now, which at 100 I didn't feel it. I probably should have ran it at the beginning of the cycle. Even at 140 mg of test cyp I was still in the high 60's. It shouldn't crash it on this much gear but figure I would do my Thursday check. Then do another check in 4 weeks see if the arimidex changed longer I was on it. I know This coming Thursday is a short window to check It from starting it but don't want to feel like this. I need to check other markers.
 
kcates said:
I run high estrogen already last time I was using 180 mg of test cyp for TRT I was at 100 e2 sensitive. Probably should have been on it then. I feel the high estrogen now, which at 100 I didn't feel it. I probably should have ran it at the beginning of the cycle. Even at 140 mg of test cyp I was still in the high 60's. It shouldn't crash it on this much gear but figure I would do my Thursday check. Then do another check in 4 weeks see if the arimidex changed longer I was on it. I know This coming Thursday is a short window to check It from starting it but don't want to feel like this. I need to check other markers.
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fair :D lets see
 
LevButlerov said:
fair :D lets see
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I don't get any of the other sides like itchy nipples or seem to be holding any extra water. Yesterday I actually looked the driest I have looked in a long time at 227. It's just I get unmotivated and feel off when it creeps up to high. No drive and morning wood seem to go away. I am glad I don't get the tit issues others get.
 
Yesterday when I was low in weight I was flexing in the mirror looking at my stomach. My wife was at the sink next to me. I asked her I think this is the skinniest I have been since we had met. She said she didn't think I was this skinny when we met 20 years ago. I only weighed about 200 lbs then and later on when I got out of prison I only weighed 205. Now I weigh around 230 and look leaner. I was just pretty happy with myself. 30 lbs heavier and 20 years later looking thinner. Kinda made my day. Then I went and destroyed my legs and felt beat up. Lol.
 
kcates said:
I don't get any of the other sides like itchy nipples or seem to be holding any extra water. Yesterday I actually looked the driest I have looked in a long time at 227. It's just I get unmotivated and feel off when it creeps up to high. No drive and morning wood seem to go away. I am glad I don't get the tit issues others get.
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could be other hormones off too bad we cant get bloods.
kcates said:
Yesterday when I was low in weight I was flexing in the mirror looking at my stomach. My wife was at the sink next to me. I asked her I think this is the skinniest I have been since we had met. She said she didn't think I was this skinny when we met 20 years ago. I only weighed about 200 lbs then and later on when I got out of prison I only weighed 205. Now I weigh around 230 and look leaner. I was just pretty happy with myself. 30 lbs heavier and 20 years later looking thinner. Kinda made my day. Then I went and destroyed my legs and felt beat up. Lol.
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230 lean is a win :D more mass and leaner always hot! @kcates
 
LevButlerov said:
could be other hormones off too bad we cant get bloods.

230 lean is a win :D more mass and leaner always hot! @kcates
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We will have bloods the week after. Reason I can't get them now is I don't have time. I am crunching work because I am taking a long weekend for fathers day going camping. It's out annual fathers day camping trip to the springs.
 
kcates said:
We will have bloods the week after. Reason I can't get them now is I don't have time. I am crunching work because I am taking a long weekend for fathers day going camping. It's out annual fathers day camping trip to the springs.
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understand :D when you can lets get the bloods in
 
I spoke about this prior about one of the gym bro's coming up to me and complimenting me on my recomping. I had mentioned to him I don't see it because I see myself daily and don't notice the changes. Yesterday he comes up to me and says, "I want you to see what I see. Do you know how to make a side by side picture of yourself." I don't know how so he showed me on my phone. So I took my most recent photo and then the next one which was 8 months ago. This is what I got. Now I see what he sees. What still amazes me is I am still weighing in the 230's. My weight has not changed much in over 2 years. I got down to 239 in November of 2023 from 285 in early September of 2023. I have just fluctuated around the 230's ever since. It's crazy how some one who weighs the same but can look so drastically different at different body fat percentages. My log does say I want to get down to 200 but realistically I have figured if I got to 210 I would be in the 10-12 % body fat range where I would actually like to be at.
 

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kcates said:
I spoke about this prior about one of the gym bro's coming up to me and complimenting me on my recomping. I had mentioned to him I don't see it because I see myself daily and don't notice the changes. Yesterday he comes up to me and says, "I want you to see what I see. Do you know how to make a side by side picture of yourself." I don't know how so he showed me on my phone. So I took my most recent photo and then the next one which was 8 months ago. This is what I got. Now I see what he sees. What still amazes me is I am still weighing in the 230's. My weight has not changed much in over 2 years. I got down to 239 in November of 2023 from 285 in early September of 2023. I have just fluctuated around the 230's ever since. It's crazy how some one who weighs the same but can look so drastically different at different body fat percentages. My log does say I want to get down to 200 but realistically I have figured if I got to 210 I would be in the 10-12 % body fat range where I would actually like to be at.
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you're looking good, recomping for sure :D more mass and leaner pic to pic very impressive changes, EVO family respect! @kcates

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