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fatman3000

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Do you share with your partner that you are using? me and my gf are ow in a 1 year committed relationship, she freaks when she hears I may get a puff off a fat J, so imagine this but I feel like shit sneaking around trying to pin on the can while I Have the tap running, I dont even know why I Have the water running but I do, now I am starting my cycle again and all this shit is coming to my mind, any advice?
 
My girlfriend was concerned so she did some research on the compounds I was using and knew she wasn't going to change my mind. She basically said as long as it didn't change my personality and give me roid rage then no problem. The benefit with a high dose of t in the bedroom definitely had her sold after a while.

If you don't want to tell her preload the syringes, and try to pin when she's not around.
 
Tell her that this is what you want to do lol. Don't be an asshole on cycle and she will be ok with it. My Gf Diddnt Want ME To Do it But i did what I wanted and she accepted it haha. We have been together over 4 yrs now.
 
liv2pb said:
Tell her that this is what you want to do lol. Don't be an asshole on cycle and she will be ok with it. My Gf Diddnt Want ME To Do it But i did what I wanted and she accepted it haha. We have been together over 4 yrs now.
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I Just brought up the subject over breakfast and she just went on and on about what a stupid thing it is and how she would never respect a man who would do such a thing!!
 
if you live the proper lifestyle women will see that and respect what you do regarding your body, it helps too if you make some sort of living off of it too.

to make it simple. if you eat fast food, slop, don't exercise, look like shit then why should they approve of your steroid use?

if you eat great, workout all the time, etc etc. then she isn't going to even judge you cause she is in no position to.

and to answer your question all my gf's I have had known, many even bring up steroids on first dates. and they are fine with it because I look like I lift, i'm always in the gym and I eat clean 24/7. so for them to judge me would be hypocritical on their part .. would be like criticizing a guy who owns a tattoo parlor for having tattoos. if a girl ever brung it up then its easy for me to say the money I make from lifting and using steroids is paying for our dinner bitch! (in nice terms of course)
 
it depends on the girl I think if shes wife material don't hide anything will only cause probs when she finds out
if shes into you she should understand if shes a bitch about it dump that ass
 
My wife was dead-set against my use of any anything, period, but I make my own decisions and did anyway. She was mad... until I introduced her to Clen and she dropped 12 pounds in 2 weeks--now she is happy as a pig in shit.

Not a negative word out of her mouth since. I found it easier to turn her into a hypocrite than waste energy arguing about it.
 
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I Just brought up the subject over breakfast and she just went on and on about what a stupid thing it is and how she would never respect a man who would do such a thing!!
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I'm sorry to hear that bro. Is she objecting rationally (from an educated platform of understanding the subject at hand), or is she forming her opinion solely on what she learned in 8th grade health class and her feelz?
 
stevesmi said:
if you live the proper lifestyle women will see that and respect what you do regarding your body, it helps too if you make some sort of living off of it too.

to make it simple. if you eat fast food, slop, don't exercise, look like shit then why should they approve of your steroid use?

if you eat great, workout all the time, etc etc. then she isn't going to even judge you cause she is in no position to.

and to answer your question all my gf's I have had known, many even bring up steroids on first dates. and they are fine with it because I look like I lift, i'm always in the gym and I eat clean 24/7. so for them to judge me would be hypocritical on their part .. would be like criticizing a guy who owns a tattoo parlor for having tattoos. if a girl ever brung it up then its easy for me to say the money I make from lifting and using steroids is paying for our dinner bitch! (in nice terms of course)
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She is one of those people that believes that you could achieve the same without steroids and steroids are shortcut for cowards, actually her exact words!!!! So now I am bit lost, I eat clean, look as good as I ever have perhaps and do min 3,4 hours work out a day not all of heavy sometimes training others, the worst thing is she said, "Hon you are the example of how one could look good without steroids, made me feel like shit!!!"
 
fatman3000 said:
Do you share with your partner that you are using? me and my gf are ow in a 1 year committed relationship, she freaks when she hears I may get a puff off a fat J, so imagine this but I feel like shit sneaking around trying to pin on the can while I Have the tap running, I dont even know why I Have the water running but I do, now I am starting my cycle again and all this shit is coming to my mind, any advice?
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I have been married for 33 yrs. now so I think I can give you some good advice.

The less a woman knows the better. They cannot shut up, keep a secret, and remember every single bad thing you have ever done. I still get reminded that I enlisted before "asking" for her opinion in 1982. A great relationship is built on lies and secrets by men. You younger people can think that feel good honesty equality shit all you want but it will do nothing but get you in trouble and divorced. NEVER TELL A WOMAN ANYTHING!

Oh, and remember, if you ever break up hoss the first place she's headed to is the police station.
 
Bama said:
I have been married for 33 yrs. now so I think I can give you some good advice.

The less a woman knows the better. They cannot shut up, keep a secret, and remember every single bad thing you have ever done. I still get reminded that I enlisted before "asking" for her opinion in 1982. A great relationship is built on lies and secrets by men. You younger people can think that feel good honesty equality shit all you want but it will do nothing but get you in trouble and divorced. NEVER TELL A WOMAN ANYTHING!
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^ This is the best advice. Truth.
 
fatman3000 said:
I Just brought up the subject over breakfast and she just went on and on about what a stupid thing it is and how she would never respect a man who would do such a thing!!
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you don't need her if she doesn't respect you, women are to respect men. get rid of that bitch...
 
Bama said:
I have been married for 33 yrs. now so I think I can give you some good advice.

The less a woman knows the better. They cannot shut up, keep a secret, and remember every single bad thing you have ever done. I still get reminded that I enlisted before "asking" for her opinion in 1982. A great relationship is built on lies and secrets by men. You younger people can think that feel good honesty equality shit all you want but it will do nothing but get you in trouble and divorced. NEVER TELL A WOMAN ANYTHING!

Oh, and remember, if you ever break up hoss the first place she's headed to is the police station.
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Best advice I have ever received this year!!
 
what I'm about to encounter new girlfriend don't care if she knows but I'm on a mix with teen,deca,equipoise, I can get woos if tried just not in allegence in morning on test and masteron. I plan on doing something should I get procuring would that get me going. thanks ahead

caveman72 using not abusing
 
fatman3000 said:
She is one of those people that believes that you could achieve the same without steroids and steroids are shortcut for cowards, actually her exact words!!!! So now I am bit lost, I eat clean, look as good as I ever have perhaps and do min 3,4 hours work out a day not all of heavy sometimes training others, the worst thing is she said, "Hon you are the example of how one could look good without steroids, made me feel like shit!!!"
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she kind of has a point there unless you can explain to her you are against young guys using and you didn't start using until you had achieved a strong base first. show her pics of how you looked natty.

if you were a 20 year old who jumped on sauce the week of training then she would be spot on right, I would feel the same way if a gf jumped on clen/diuretics without even attempting cardio or diet changes.
 
stevesmi said:
she kind of has a point there unless you can explain to her you are against young guys using and you didn't start using until you had achieved a strong base first. show her pics of how you looked natty.

if you were a 20 year old who jumped on sauce the week of training then she would be spot on right, I would feel the same way if a gf jumped on clen/diuretics without even attempting cardio or diet changes.
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This is a good, point, I think first thing to do is to change her mind about the roids anyway, but then again this is an absolute innocent good human being, in the year we have been together I think she drank 3 glasses of wine altogether!! and here I am spending my day in gym, the nights in raves and rest of it gods knows what kind of stupid shit! better questions may be, WTF is she doing with me lol
 
Bama said:
I have been married for 33 yrs. now so I think I can give you some good advice.

The less a woman knows the better. They cannot shut up, keep a secret, and remember every single bad thing you have ever done. I still get reminded that I enlisted before "asking" for her opinion in 1982. A great relationship is built on lies and secrets by men. You younger people can think that feel good honesty equality shit all you want but it will do nothing but get you in trouble and divorced. NEVER TELL A WOMAN ANYTHING!

Oh, and remember, if you ever break up hoss the first place she's headed to is the police station.
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I am not married nor do I have your experience in that regards, but I've broken plenty of hearts and pissed of some psycho chicks in my days and not once did they run to the police station. does this actually happen ever? highly doubt the cops unless you live in a boring little town are going to care if a psycho ex wants to get revenge on a guy by telling them he uses steroids or even pot, they will likely laugh about it.

I have heard of situations where they've used steroid use for custody situations, but they are just as likely to use anything against you they can find on social media or snooping through emails.

also a trick is get the chick to inject you. then she will be 'in on it' ..

I think a chick has to be a complete moron to not assume someone benches twice their body weight and squats 3X and isn't on some sort of performance enhancing substance or who looks huge vs. their body structure. hell most of the guys in the gym don't even look like they lift or show up once or twice a week and are doing a gram a week of sauce
 
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stevesmi said:
I am not married nor do I have your experience in that regards, but I've broken plenty of hearts and pissed of some psycho chicks in my days and not once did they run to the police station. does this actually happen ever? highly doubt the cops unless you live in a boring little town are going to care if a psycho ex wants to get revenge on a guy by telling them he uses steroids or even pot, they will likely laugh about it.

I have heard of situations where they've used steroid use for custody situations, but they are just as likely to use anything against you they can find on social media or snooping through emails.

also a trick is get the chick to inject you. then she will be 'in on it' ..

I think a chick has to be a complete moron to not assume someone benches twice their body weight and squats 3X and isn't on some sort of performance enhancing substance or who looks huge vs. their body structure. hell most of the guys in the gym don't even look like they lift or show up once or twice a week and are doing a gram a week of sauce
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Personal experience, broke up with a chick a while later, I get an odd call from my family wanting to talk to me, I show up and its intervention, turns out the lovely lady has casually mentioned here and there that I roll on XTC and Drop acid from time to time, and family being the nice peopel they are think I need help.
I might need help that is besides the point, but the fact is our brothe is right women do tend ot keep secret well!
 
fatman3000 said:
Personal experience, broke up with a chick a while later, I get an odd call from my family wanting to talk to me, I show up and its intervention, turns out the lovely lady has casually mentioned here and there that I roll on XTC and Drop acid from time to time, and family being the nice peopel they are think I need help.
I might need help that is besides the point, but the fact is our brothe is right women do tend ot keep secret well!
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XTC and acid are recreational drugs, different ballgame

sounds like your gf doesn't like that you mess with rec drugs and steroids, and she is right

it goes back to my first post in this thread. if you don't live the lifestyle then the girl will never approve, if you live the lifestyle (i'm talking eat organic food, not drink, no drugs, completely clean, workout like a madman all the time) then she won't say a damn thing to you.

I honestly think its never gonna work with this chick ... dump her and find a new one but this time prove yourself better
 
gypsy469 said:
If you are doing X and dropping acid, you have no business in the AAS world.
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Old me bro!!! Long story short, went from MMA fighter to doing too many drugs and hanging out with strippers and shit, bro in a gym saved me, got me off the Alcohl and drugs and into AAS to give me a boost back as I was in a dark place! But yeah man, screw that shit! nothing but trouble, regardless since from point of view of others these are illegal no-nos!
 
My wife was aware from day 1 that I use steroids. She was kinda iffy about it all. I proceeded to inform her about what each thing does and how the body reacts to it. Also I showed her actual research about steroids and how if used properly they are not bad. Also if it comes down it you should do what you want, if your significant other can't accept your decisions then they should not be there. Don't get me wrong....there is a huge difference between you doing steroids and you doing meth and them supporting your decision.
 
This really makes no sense to me. My gf is my best friend and I tell her everything, if I had to be secretive and lie about things then I would be a miserable person for the rest of my life. I'm not married yet but I'm not one of those guys that rushes into marriage.

Bama said:
I have been married for 33 yrs. now so I think I can give you some good advice.

The less a woman knows the better. They cannot shut up, keep a secret, and remember every single bad thing you have ever done. I still get reminded that I enlisted before "asking" for her opinion in 1982. A great relationship is built on lies and secrets by men. You younger people can think that feel good honesty equality shit all you want but it will do nothing but get you in trouble and divorced. NEVER TELL A WOMAN ANYTHING!

Oh, and remember, if you ever break up hoss the first place she's headed to is the police station.
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liv2pb said:
This really makes no sense to me. My gf is my best friend and I tell her everything, if I had to be secretive and lie about things then I would be a miserable person for the rest of my life. I'm not married yet but I'm not one of those guys that rushes into marriage.
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obviously never been burnt by stupid bitch....
 
Just started my 1st cycle this week, been on TRT for 3 months. Wife was/is iffy about it, but she's done half of my injections for me now. She just wants me to be safe and grow old with her. Steroids have a bad stigma so that's all she knows about it. As does anyone who's on the outside looking in.

I didn't even realize it, but 10 years ago when we first met she claims that I made a comment about if I ever found a way to get steroids I'd use them. Now, 10 years later here we are. So.. In her mind, she's been preparing for this moment for a decade!


... Side note. I wonder if I should drop a 3 some line on her and hope 10 years from now it comes true!? LOL...
 
Bama said:
I have been married for 33 yrs. now so I think I can give you some good advice.

The less a woman knows the better. They cannot shut up, keep a secret, and remember every single bad thing you have ever done. I still get reminded that I enlisted before "asking" for her opinion in 1982. A great relationship is built on lies and secrets by men. You younger people can think that feel good honesty equality shit all you want but it will do nothing but get you in trouble and divorced. NEVER TELL A WOMAN ANYTHING!

Oh, and remember, if you ever break up hoss the first place she's headed to is the police station.
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Exactly. Don't ever tell a woman anything you wouldn't tell everyone she knows, and everyone they know. Period.

I had to laugh about your enlistment remark. I enlisted in '82 myself (May 1st), and over those next 3 months before I caught my flight to boot, I dated every girl that caught my eye. I was going on 4 or 5 dates a week at the end, and never mentioned to any of them I was leaving at the end of July for boot camp, I just disappeared.

It was a pleasant 3 months that I've looked back on fondly my entire life :)
 
fatman3000 said:
Do you share with your partner that you are using? me and my gf are ow in a 1 year committed relationship, she freaks when she hears I may get a puff off a fat J, so imagine this but I feel like shit sneaking around trying to pin on the can while I Have the tap running, I dont even know why I Have the water running but I do, now I am starting my cycle again and all this shit is coming to my mind, any advice?
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I think it def depends on the girl but I will tell you this I work at a law firm in San Francisco and you would be fucked really bad in a divorce...Something to think about....
 
I've always just went on gear then let her fall in love with what i have become, a lean vascular strong sex machine...tell her im on gear later, then if she gets all pissy about it just remind her about how much she loves it. It never fails
 
I tell everyone I am on trt. The rest is none of their business. My wife is a nurse, she always wants to give me my shots. I just tell her I don't trust her. Plus I don't want her to see I shoot 4 CC's 3 times or more a week.
 
Mrhat39 said:
I tell everyone I am on trt. The rest is none of their business. My wife is a nurse, she always wants to give me my shots. I just tell her I don't trust her. Plus I don't want her to see I shoot 4 CC's 3 times or more a week.
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That actually seems like the best way....Doc says I need it....Perfect!
 
Just an intersting point to consider.... Imagine for a minute there was a drug that women could take... an injection like steroids... only instead of building muscle, it made their beasts larger and firmer without surgery...
And what if it worked exactly like steroids... as long as she's on it, they stay enhanced... and the more she takes, the bigger her boobs get... however, when she stops... they shrink back to natural size.

And this make believe drug has the EXACT same side effects of steroids... even if the side effects were worse...

How many women would use this? They wouldn't be able to produce the drug fast enough to meet the demand. It would be the most popular drug in the history of humankind. Fact.
 
Wolfman's Brother said:
Just an intersting point to consider.... Imagine for a minute there was a drug that women could take... an injection like steroids... only instead of building muscle, it made their beasts larger and firmer without surgery...
And what if it worked exactly like steroids... as long as she's on it, they stay enhanced... and the more she takes, the bigger her boobs get... however, when she stops... they shrink back to natural size.

And this make believe drug has the EXACT same side effects of steroids... even if the side effects were worse...

How many women would use this? They wouldn't be able to produce the drug fast enough to meet the demand. It would be the most popular drug in the history of humankind. Fact.
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Bro as is, half the girls I date that had boobs done were reluctant admit it till I would force it out of them and it does have sides and in my opinion feels like shit in your hand!!
 
I guess I would agree with those saying if you think it's a short term girlfriend don't worry about it. If you think it could be wife material tell her about it so they don't have any reason to not trust you later on.
 
fatman3000 said:
Bro as is, half the girls I date that had boobs done were reluctant admit it till I would force it out of them and it does have sides and in my opinion feels like shit in your hand!!
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Well, women are not know for being a bit of hypocrites
 
Bama said:
I have been married for 33 yrs. now so I think I can give you some good advice.

The less a woman knows the better. They cannot shut up, keep a secret, and remember every single bad thing you have ever done. I still get reminded that I enlisted before "asking" for her opinion in 1982. A great relationship is built on lies and secrets by men. You younger people can think that feel good honesty equality shit all you want but it will do nothing but get you in trouble and divorced. NEVER TELL A WOMAN ANYTHING!

Oh, and remember, if you ever break up hoss the first place she's headed to is the police station.
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Jesus Christ, man. I feel very sorry for you if you've been stuck married that long in a relationship with lies. You have it all wrong in my opinion. Keeping secrets or lies in a relationship is a recipe for disaster. I've been married to my wife for ten years and been together 15 years. She knows everything I do, and I have nothing to hide from her. She is literally my best friend and I'm hers. She defends and respects everything I do, and I like the fact that I can sit around and talk to her about anything. I couldn't imagine living any other way, and I sure as hell wouldn't be married to or be with anyone I couldn't trust like that
 
RickRock said:
Jesus Christ, man. I feel very sorry for you if you've been stuck married that long in a relationship with lies. You have it all wrong in my opinion. Keeping secrets or lies in a relationship is a recipe for disaster. I've been married to my wife for ten years and been together 15 years. She knows everything I do, and I have nothing to hide from her. She is literally my best friend and I'm hers. She defends and respects everything I do, and I like the fact that I can sit around and talk to her about anything. I couldn't imagine living any other way, and I sure as hell wouldn't be married to or be with anyone I couldn't trust like that
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Bit harsh there brother, but I agree with you
 
I recommended see the video of rich piana about this topic . i did the same and my girlfriend now its ok


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Bama said:
I have been married for 33 yrs. now so I think I can give you some good advice.

The less a woman knows the better. They cannot shut up, keep a secret, and remember every single bad thing you have ever done. I still get reminded that I enlisted before "asking" for her opinion in 1982. A great relationship is built on lies and secrets by men. You younger people can think that feel good honesty equality shit all you want but it will do nothing but get you in trouble and divorced. NEVER TELL A WOMAN ANYTHING!

Oh, and remember, if you ever break up hoss the first place she's headed to is the police station.
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frasierbear said:
^ This is the best advice. Truth.
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MikePhillips said:
Exactly. Don't ever tell a woman anything you wouldn't tell everyone she knows, and everyone they know. Period.

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Depends on the woman. For mine ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^this
 
Bama said:
I have been married for 33 yrs. now so I think I can give you some good advice.

The less a woman knows the better. They cannot shut up, keep a secret, and remember every single bad thing you have ever done. I still get reminded that I enlisted before "asking" for her opinion in 1982. A great relationship is built on lies and secrets by men. You younger people can think that feel good honesty equality shit all you want but it will do nothing but get you in trouble and divorced. NEVER TELL A WOMAN ANYTHING!

Oh, and remember, if you ever break up hoss the first place she's headed to is the police station.
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This is dumb as shit. If your marrying someone then be honest with them about everything in your life or don't get married. I wonder how you would feel if your wife had the same attitude about things she does.
 
A man who will sacrafice his muscles for a woman deserves neither.

In all seriousness tho, there isn't a single soul out there that knows I use gear and I like it that way. Like stated before, I better really trust the girl before I'd even consider it.
 
Bama said:
I have been married for 33 yrs. now so I think I can give you some good advice.

The less a woman knows the better. They cannot shut up, keep a secret, and remember every single bad thing you have ever done. I still get reminded that I enlisted before "asking" for her opinion in 1982. A great relationship is built on lies and secrets by men. You younger people can think that feel good honesty equality shit all you want but it will do nothing but get you in trouble and divorced. NEVER TELL A WOMAN ANYTHING!

Oh, and remember, if you ever break up hoss the first place she's headed to is the police station.
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I have to agree with Bama on this...there are certain things that just don't need to be exposed...this is one of them. I am in this exact situation right now...new gf and things are getting serious (I'm always looking for the next ex-) and we are headed into a committed relationship. I know how she feels about the subject and will not tell her about my cycles...better left unsaid. This is a battle that I am choosing not to fight.
 
BobBtheMan said:
I have to agree with Bama on this...there are certain things that just don't need to be exposed...this is one of them. I am in this exact situation right now...new gf and things are getting serious (I'm always looking for the next ex-) and we are headed into a committed relationship. I know how she feels about the subject and will not tell her about my cycles...better left unsaid. This is a battle that I am choosing not to fight.
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If things go well, then she was the on who suggested it, if things go south then it is me that came up with it, so I rather keep it to myself
 
I think part of it is do they work out or not. With mine I brought it up a couple times and she was kind of against it, then she started talking to other people in the industry about it, and realized that if taken with responsibility they are ok. She then told me one day I should give it a go. She knows how it works and what everything looks like just doesn't want to see me actually pin. The other day in fact she was asking if I got my mod cycle bloods done yet. If they put the time in like you do then I think they have a better understanding of why you do it.
 
AAS shouldn't be a deal-breaker or a marriage/relationship killer. Be honest, and if she loves you, she'll accept you as you are, for who you are. Secrets and hidden agendas are very dangerous to relationships, and it'll help crumble them every time. Sit down, explain your goals, explain the process(es), educate her on these subjects, and you may come out in a win/win situation. Sneaking around and not being honest with each other is a big no-go, and will cause nothing but trouble. Explain everything and show her the plus side and positives of proper and responsible AAS usage and she'll more than likely be fine. Misunderstandings and misconceptions are probably the main problem - why add to them with dishonesty? Explain yourself and your goals to her, then, if she's still hard-headed.....Slap dat ho! lol
 
your SO is your best friend and partner and that is the person you should be open and honest with about everything. I'm honestly flabbergasted at some of the posts on here and its sad you have never found a special person to share secrets with who actually KEEPS secrets. what is said between you and your SO stays between you two forever.. that's the way I was raised. you just don't keep secrets away from each other under any circumstances.

if you can't trust that person then you have no business being with them to begin with!

there should be no secrets at all in a relationship/marriage. and both people should be willing to die for the other and put the other person first over anyone else. its really immature if you have friends that know more about you then your SO. reminds me of in high school when a hot chick would complain to me that her bf would blow her off to go 'mudding' or drinking with his friends. obviously the guy is a loser. your SO comes #1, that is the person you go to bed with and wake up next to everyday. your friends should never know more about you then your SO, and random strangers on a roid forum shouldn't know more about what you do than the person you are with.

if a girl asks you if you take steroids then calmly explain how you take it conservatively and you waited till you built a base first. then when she visits show her the oil and explain how they work.. show your are knowledgeable and that you use them to get an edge in the gym and recover faster. I've never had a single problem when I've done that.
 
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I. Guessing a lot of you guys against telling your wives/girlfriends are probably pretty young. If the girl isn't someone you are going to stay with very long, then I can see not telling them. If you are planning on staying with this person, you need to man up and lay it all out there. Be honest with them. You don't want this shit blowing up in your face later on because you didn't tell her. Quit being an asshat and let the girl know everything you do. I'm sure you wouldn't take it very well if she was sneaking behind your back and doing shit you didn't know about. Have some respect for your girl, and your relationship
 
I don't think it's so much a point of whether or not to you want to keep a secret from your significant other, it's about keeping a secret from everyone they have in their social circle, twice removed. There may be a small percentage of women who can, and will, keep a secret...I've not had any personal experience with those types, but I'm willing to concede the point that they probably exist, though I believe they're nearly as rare as verifiable Sasquatch sightings. Even during the worst years of my marriage, I only kept things from my wife that I didn't want broadcast to the general public at large, because no matter what that secret might be, she'd tell her besty or her sister or her mother asking that they never tell another soul, then of course they'd immediately tell every other woman on the planet. And since she simply wasn't able to understand that she couldn't trust her besty or her family to keep their own traps shut about our personal lives, I stopped discussing anything with my wife that I didn't want all those other people to know about.

And since steroids (obtained in this manner) are illegal, I think it's just unwise to discuss their use with any woman who doesn't have something to lose directly by everybody they know finding out, because the odds are extremely high that she'll talk about it with her family and/or friends at some point, and they with theirs, and so on.
 
MikePhillips said:
I don't think it's so much a point of whether or not to you want to keep a secret from your significant other, it's about keeping a secret from everyone they have in their social circle, twice removed. There may be a small percentage of women who can, and will, keep a secret...I've not had any personal experience with those types, but I'm willing to concede the point that they probably exist, though I believe they're nearly as rare as verifiable Sasquatch sightings. Even during the worst years of my marriage, I only kept things from my wife that I didn't want broadcast to the general public at large, because no matter what that secret might be, she'd tell her besty or her sister or her mother asking that they never tell another soul, then of course they'd immediately tell every other woman on the planet. And since she simply wasn't able to understand that she couldn't trust her besty or her family to keep their own traps shut about our personal lives, I stopped discussing anything with my wife that I didn't want all those other people to know about.

And since steroids (obtained in this manner) are illegal, I think it's just unwise to discuss their use with any woman who doesn't have something to lose directly by everybody they know finding out, because the odds are extremely high that she'll talk about it with her family and/or friends at some point, and they with theirs, and so on.
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There's no way in hell I could have been married to a woman that would go and tell private things about me to others. That's complete and utter disrespect for your relationship. A true good woman would never do that. Mine wouldn't. My wife's sister asked one time when we was all hanging out "Do you take steroids?", and before I even had a chance to respond, my wife jumps in there and says "I don't think that's an appropriate question for you to be asking him. Since he has had success with his physical goals, he gets asked this all the time, and quite frankly, I am getting sick of hearing it. Do you know how many people I know besides him that eats and train like he does? Ya nobody does, so people shouldn't talk when they can't walk the walk"
 
RickRock said:
There's no way in hell I could have been married to a woman that would go and tell private things about me to others. That's complete and utter disrespect for your relationship. A true good woman would never do that. Mine wouldn't. My wife's sister asked one time when we was all hanging out "Do you take steroids?", and before I even had a chance to respond, my wife jumps in there and says "I don't think that's an appropriate question for you to be asking him. Since he has had success with his physical goals, he gets asked this all the time, and quite frankly, I am getting sick of hearing it. Do you know how many people I know besides him that eats and train like he does? Ya nobody does, so people shouldn't talk when they can't walk the walk"
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People change bro!!!
 
TBol said:
People change bro!!!
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You find the right woman and treat her right, they never will. I'd never be married to anyone I kept secrets from. That's just nuts. Might as well just stay single. This is the person you vow to be honest and truthful to. The person you'd die for, and you're going to lie about some fucking gear because you're afraid one day they are going to "tell" on you? Give me a fucking break. Too many of you guys are selfish, and do not have your priorities in order at all.
 
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RickRock said:
There's no way in hell I could have been married to a woman that would go and tell private things about me to others. That's complete and utter disrespect for your relationship. A true good woman would never do that. Mine wouldn't. My wife's sister asked one time when we was all hanging out "Do you take steroids?", and before I even had a chance to respond, my wife jumps in there and says "I don't think that's an appropriate question for you to be asking him. Since he has had success with his physical goals, he gets asked this all the time, and quite frankly, I am getting sick of hearing it. Do you know how many people I know besides him that eats and train like he does? Ya nobody does, so people shouldn't talk when they can't walk the walk"
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I'm not anymore, 'nuff said. Though I'll add that back then, when you got a girl pregnant, you married her and stuck it out for life, or at least until the kid(s) were grown, if at all possible.
 
MikePhillips said:
I'm not anymore, 'nuff said. Though I'll add that back then, when you got a girl pregnant, you married her and stuck it out for life, or at least until the kid(s) were grown, if at all possible.
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Yeh man, I've been there too. I married my ex wife because she got pregnant, but that marriage didn't last long. That was 21 years ago and we were both 19. It wasn't the right woman and married for the wrong reasons. I have the right one now, that would stand by my side no matter what through anything, and I'd do the same for her
 
stevesmi said:
if you live the proper lifestyle women will see that and respect what you do regarding your body, it helps too if you make some sort of living off of it too.

to make it simple. if you eat fast food, slop, don't exercise, look like shit then why should they approve of your steroid use?

if you eat great, workout all the time, etc etc. then she isn't going to even judge you cause she is in no position to.

and to answer your question all my gf's I have had known, many even bring up steroids on first dates. and they are fine with it because I look like I lift, i'm always in the gym and I eat clean 24/7. so for them to judge me would be hypocritical on their part .. would be like criticizing a guy who owns a tattoo parlor for having tattoos. if a girl ever brung it up then its easy for me to say the money I make from lifting and using steroids is paying for our dinner bitch! (in nice terms of course)
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The man got a point!!
 
I've kept this secret from my wife for 14 years. I dont trust any woman not to narc me out if things go bad....I watched my father get his ass handed to him in a Divorce after a 30 year divorce....all bad. I guess I will just have to be sneaky
 
fatman3000 said:
Do you share with your partner that you are using? me and my gf are ow in a 1 year committed relationship, she freaks when she hears I may get a puff off a fat J, so imagine this but I feel like shit sneaking around trying to pin on the can while I Have the tap running, I dont even know why I Have the water running but I do, now I am starting my cycle again and all this shit is coming to my mind, any advice?
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Any true relationship that is going to last HAS TO BE BASED ON TOTAL TRUTHFULNESS and trust! My wife knows what im doing..she also trust that i am doing my research. I tell her to watch for mood changes and any bad side i might not recognize, She just says not to talk about it..and not make a big deal..in other words shut up and go do it. :) She know what im trying to accomplish and its all for us..not a contest or a show..all she said was.."thats a long needle..you can do it yourself..cause im not going too" LOL Be upfront and honest always!
 
y1der said:
Any true relationship that is going to last HAS TO BE BASED ON TOTAL TRUTHFULNESS and trust! My wife knows what im doing..she also trust that i am doing my research. I tell her to watch for mood changes and any bad side i might not recognize, She just says not to talk about it..and not make a big deal..in other words shut up and go do it. :) She know what im trying to accomplish and its all for us..not a contest or a show..all she said was.."thats a long needle..you can do it yourself..cause im not going too" LOL Be upfront and honest always!
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I'll agree with the trust, as well as the truth, but I don't believe that any relationship needs total openness or complete disclosure of everything about your life to be a good relationship. Everybody has secrets of one form or another, just because it's a secret doesn't mean it's bad or evil, just that it's your choice whether you share it with your mate/significant other. Sure, there are some things that should be disclosed, but if it has nothing to do with your partner and is simply a private aspect of your own life, then it's up to you whether you share it. And if asked, rather than lie, just plainly state that isn't something you care to talk about. That should be enough, if your SO trusts you.
 
I keep absolutely nothing from my wife, and never will. I can only hope she does the same. She claims she does the same, at least. Does she have to ask about things sometime to get an answer? Yes. lol.
 
RickRock said:
You find the right woman and treat her right, they never will. I'd never be married to anyone I kept secrets from. That's just nuts. Might as well just stay single. This is the person you vow to be honest and truthful to. The person you'd die for, and you're going to lie about some fucking gear because you're afraid one day they are going to "tell" on you? Give me a fucking break. Too many of you guys are selfish, and do not have your priorities in order at all.
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yes this is true.

but I also think your previous point hit the nail on the head where your wife jumped in and asked her friend 'you know how many people work out like him?'

that means she respects your lifestyle ethics. that goes a loooooooooooong way

if you were an alcoholic and drug addict of course she wouldn't support doing steroids, I wouldn't either! this is a lifestyle and you can't expect your SO to respect you if you do not even respect your own body!
 
MikePhillips said:
I'll agree with the trust, as well as the truth, but I don't believe that any relationship needs total openness or complete disclosure of everything about your life to be a good relationship. Everybody has secrets of one form or another, just because it's a secret doesn't mean it's bad or evil, just that it's your choice whether you share it with your mate/significant other. Sure, there are some things that should be disclosed, but if it has nothing to do with your partner and is simply a private aspect of your own life, then it's up to you whether you share it. And if asked, rather than lie, just plainly state that isn't something you care to talk about. That should be enough, if your SO trusts you.
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this thread is very interesting and makes for some good discussion.

my question is what specifically are you saying should be kept secret? I am curious what you mean by that

what if the wife kept the secret that you weren't really the dad to your kid? would that be okay? its extreme but something like 15% of fathers aren't really the daddy
 
Well i see it as The TWO become one when you get married, no secrets...everything that goes on must be shared by both...we do not share the past previous to the marriage, (dont keep bringing up the past) since most that was disclosed previous to getting married. There has to be total honesty and openness IMHO. And if something goes wrong she will know why and what. I trust her with my life..and she trust me with hers. I would die for Her..and she would die for me. But thats me :) but it makes it a really simple life that way. :)
 
stevesmi said:
this thread is very interesting and makes for some good discussion.

my question is what specifically are you saying should be kept secret?
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This does bring up a good topic. This is actually something I have been struggling with this whole last year. I have come to the conclusion ( through time and pain) that yes, people are entitled to their own privacy and lives. In other words, it is much healthier for each person to have their own life, pursuits and dreams. The thing is thou that if two people really want to share their lives together, there will be differnences in opinion ( which is natural) .....and with this come secrets. However, certain types of secrets are not necessarily bad. They are however one's own right to have.
 
Mateo123 said:
The thing is thou that if two people really want to share their lives together, there will be differnences in opinion ( which is natural) .....and with this come secrets. However, certain types of secrets are not necessarily bad. They are however one's own right to have.
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Why would this ^^^^ include secrets?
 
RickRock said:
Jesus Christ, man. I feel very sorry for you if you've been stuck married that long in a relationship with lies. You have it all wrong in my opinion. Keeping secrets or lies in a relationship is a recipe for disaster. I've been married to my wife for ten years and been together 15 years. She knows everything I do, and I have nothing to hide from her. She is literally my best friend and I'm hers. She defends and respects everything I do, and I like the fact that I can sit around and talk to her about anything. I couldn't imagine living any other way, and I sure as hell wouldn't be married to or be with anyone I couldn't trust like that
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Your one of the lucky ones bro...I happy for you , but latest statistics say 64 percent of marriages end in divorce there for using illegal drugs can and will be used against you in the case of a divorce.....
 
stevesmi said:
this thread is very interesting and makes for some good discussion.

my question is what specifically are you saying should be kept secret? I am curious what you mean by that

what if the wife kept the secret that you weren't really the dad to your kid? would that be okay? its extreme but something like 15% of fathers aren't really the daddy
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Here is the deal, I think it would be very selfish of one to impose a concept on someone who does not accept or like but since they do love that person they have to.
Lets say bob enjoy eating baby dears, specially if he was to hung them, Jessica is married to Bob and loves Bob very much but she is an animal lover and finds hunting very cruel, now bob is not really bothered by it nor the hunting defines him as a person, I think if bob was to go on hunting trip with his buddies and keep the matter of hunting to himself Jessica does not have to deal with this fact and be the bad guy to make the hard decision of either forbiding bob or accepting such a matter.

Now of my GF thinks Steroids are the devils shiznits, but she loves everything about me, by telling her about it, I am putting her between a rock and hard place effectively I Am making her choose between accepting something she does not accept or losing me, she will be loser either way.

what do you think about this? does it make any sense? or have I lost all my mental capacity to sweet Tbol!? lol
 
I told my G/F i was using before I moved in with her. It was the best thing I did. I could never hide all the shit from her. As long as I don't rage on her, she is fine with it.
 
Mattdogg said:
Why would this ^^^^ include secrets?
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Lets say you have children. One of your kids ( a boy ) comes up to you and says "Dad....can I trust you with something.....blahblah blah....but please dont tell mom." or lets say your ex girlfriend comes into town and tells you that the baby you got her pregnant with (2 weeks before you married your wife) is dead and there is a funeral could you please come. Depending on the relationship you have and the circumstances....I dont think this would be a HORRIBLE secriect to keep from your wife.
 
My G/F supports my lifestyle because I was a fucking drunk before. She seen both sides of me and likes the aas side a lot better! Alcohol free now baby!
 
JM750 said:
My G/F supports my lifestyle because I was a fucking drunk before. She seen both sides of me and likes the aas side a lot better! Alcohol free now baby!
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Same with me JM. She knew me in the 90's when I was hardcore lifting and living the life, then knew me when I was strung on painkillers from an accident, then she helped me recover after 6 years, now she's all for me getting back to where and what I was. Support is great - especially through all that.
 
Mattdogg said:
Same with me JM. She knew me in the 90's when I was hardcore lifting and living the life, then knew me when I was strung on painkillers from an accident, then she helped me recover after 6 years, now she's all for me getting back to where and what I was. Support is great - especially through all that.
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Same here, I quit boxing after an injury moved in with a bottle!! We were not together back then but knew each other, and actually she got attracted to me after I dropped all that shit came over to the AAS side, although she has no idea I am on anything! We dont live together so that makes things easier!
 
stevesmi said:
this thread is very interesting and makes for some good discussion.

my question is what specifically are you saying should be kept secret? I am curious what you mean by that

what if the wife kept the secret that you weren't really the dad to your kid? would that be okay? its extreme but something like 15% of fathers aren't really the daddy
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In a case like that, it affects him too, not just her, and it isn't something she should keep to herself, though that points moot, as the reason it isn't his was obviously already kept a secret, and someone willing to go to those lengths doesn't care what's right or wrong, or whether they're a liar or not, they're only interested in what benefits themselves.

In my own case, I've kept a few things to myself, mostly things she wouldn't have been interested in anyway. One of those things was my military service, it was never her business and wasn't something I wanted to discuss with her, or anyone else I didn't serve with.
 
I do agree, there are some things that are better left unsaid. I used to tell my Ex wife, "Don't ask questions that you don't want to hear truthful answers to"
 
TBol said:
Well done, I hope to make it that long, does any of you go to AA? ,
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I don't need to go to AA and hear all their sob stories. I got enough of my own. lol
When I look back at what I looked like 2 yrs ago, VS now, that is all I need to see to stay on track brother.
I only wish I was younger because the internet has helped a lot on educating yourself on AAS.
Back in the 90's when I first did a cycle, I had no clue what I was doing….
 
JM750 said:
I don't need to go to AA and hear all their sob stories. I got enough of my own. lol
When I look back at what I looked like 2 yrs ago, VS now, that is all I need to see to stay on track brother.
I only wish I was younger because the internet has helped a lot on educating yourself on AAS.
Back in the 90's when I first did a cycle, I had no clue what I was doing….
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True that!! unless I get a call from my mother, I never ever feel the need to drink and even then I throw the phone at something and run to the gym lifting!!!
 
TBol said:
Here is the deal, I think it would be very selfish of one to impose a concept on someone who does not accept or like but since they do love that person they have to.
Lets say bob enjoy eating baby dears, specially if he was to hung them, Jessica is married to Bob and loves Bob very much but she is an animal lover and finds hunting very cruel, now bob is not really bothered by it nor the hunting defines him as a person, I think if bob was to go on hunting trip with his buddies and keep the matter of hunting to himself Jessica does not have to deal with this fact and be the bad guy to make the hard decision of either forbiding bob or accepting such a matter.

Now of my GF thinks Steroids are the devils shiznits, but she loves everything about me, by telling her about it, I am putting her between a rock and hard place effectively I Am making her choose between accepting something she does not accept or losing me, she will be loser either way.

what do you think about this? does it make any sense? or have I lost all my mental capacity to sweet Tbol!? lol
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...............Dump her.
 
TBol said:
Well done, I hope to make it that long, does any of you go to AA? ,
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nah...no AA for me..just got sick of feeling like crap, realized thats a hole I want no part of! the only way out of a hole...is to stop Digging!...
 
Mateo123 said:
Lets say you have children. One of your kids ( a boy ) comes up to you and says "Dad....can I trust you with something.....blahblah blah....but please dont tell mom." or lets say your ex girlfriend comes into town and tells you that the baby you got her pregnant with (2 weeks before you married your wife) is dead and there is a funeral could you please come. Depending on the relationship you have and the circumstances....I dont think this would be a HORRIBLE secriect to keep from your wife.
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I see what you're saying bro. To me though, I wouldn't keep a secret from "mom" unless it was a harmless one that simply allowed you to keep the promise to the kid. Secondly, was the relationship an "on the side" relationship while being unfaithful to the current girlfriend which turned out to be your wife? lol, Or did you meet the girlfriend, which turned out to be your wife, and fall in love then get married, all within two weeks? In the first case, you have two conditions to own up to. In the second case, I'd just tell her the situation and that I was going to my kid's funeral.
 
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progear said:
I know this really isn't the topic ha but anyone is looking for good gear pm me or email doesn't matter and all my powders are Mass Spec'd to ensure that the products you receive are atleast 98% purity. A good quality sterile product is my number 1 priority. All oils/solvents are USP grade. Everything From the vials down to the tweezers I use are sterilized in an autoclave.

Oils for sale:
Test E
Test P
Tren E
Tren Ace
Sust 250
Deca
EQ
Mast E
Mast P
Test Base
Test Ace
Injectable Winny
Injectable Dbol

Orals:
Anavar
Anadrol
Dbol
Winstrol
Turinabol
Proviron

SERM/PCT
Nolva
Clomid

Fat Loss
Clen
T3
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Didn't you get your ass chewed for doing this on another thread? :/
 
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