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First week on Tren :(

Warrior08

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So yesterday was my 2nd pin of the mix 2 from pharmacom (75tren,75prop,100mast). This is my first time ever using tren.

So all day yesterday I felt exhausted and just not my self. And then last night I couldn't fall a sleep. I was relaxed but I couldn't get into a deep sleep at all.

Today I was completely shot.... Weak,tired, I couldn't even do my planned leg work out.

Could this really be from the tren it's only my 4 th day on it???

My macro are getting lower Bc I'm dieting but still not too bad.
Protein-240
Carbs -230
Fat-40.

I have gw but I haven't used it yet.


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How much you weigh warrior ? I don't think it would hit that fast . What was your status before the first shot ?


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There short esters so would think they would have pretty quick results....I've read that tren can skyrocket e2 levels??

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i was like that for the first week. dead, cudnt sleep, irritable....added prami n it knock the sides off. e3d use. prolactin levels were the issue. isnt pharmix2 tren 75, prop 100, mast 75? most guys prefer low test high tren to reduce sides but sounds more like a prolactin issue
 
Ace builds up fast. Expect to be broadsided by tren sides. I have never had these issues with tren E from the slow build up. I don't know why everyone thinks that ace is a better choice for a tren newb
 
There short esters so would think they would have pretty quick results....I've read that tren can skyrocket e2 levels??

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Ahh don't start spreading that already lolol!! Tren doesn't aromatize
 
6ft 213lbs 12%

I took .5 of caber yesterday

I've been doing 12.5mg of aromisn every 4th day bc my previous bloods showed eod was taking my estrogen way too low.

Maybe I should go back to eod?


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i found .5 e3d was knockin me on my ass. .25 i was gold. oh n had to take it at night or i couldnt get out of bed
 
Ahh don't start spreading that already lolol!! Tren doesn't aromatize

Yes this is what I thought it the test that people take with tren that cause the e levels to rise but not at lower doses , specially with the mast added would lower estrogen levels also , not enough to not use or have an AI on hand but it does .

First of all your workout was shit cause you didn't sleep . 2nd , lower the dose to 50mg of tren EOD for a first timer until you know what it's like .

I also took my second shot of tren-a 50mg EOD , yesterday . I feel fine , no sides . I went to bed a lil nervous , wore my poly shirt , expecting the sweats , but slept well . Woke up with a lil anxiety .

Looks like were on a similar run at the same time .I'll walk thru this with you if you like ?


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So alittle less caber? .25 e3d?

So add some more AI? Aromisn 12.5 eod instead of every 4th.

Drop dose to 50mg from 75mg? Since it's a mix I'll go from 1cc from .8cc.

Any other ideas.


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So alittle less caber? .25 e3d?

So add some more AI? Aromisn 12.5 eod instead of every 4th.

Drop dose to 50mg from 75mg? Since it's a mix I'll go from 1cc from .8cc.

Any other ideas.


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You can try all of that, but I think it's just the nature of the beast

Are you using caber or prami?
 
I'm using caber.

And yes my fats are low I've worked them down from 80g thru the last 5 weeks of dieting.


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Remember the mix has masterone , witch will lower estrogen ,. Too low of estrogen will make endurance go downhill . Me I don't think you need caber right away , but good to have on hand . If you control your e levels your prolactin should not get high . Just cause we are taking tren dosent mean we will have prolactin problems . This is info that was taught by one if the masters himself ! I can get scientific but no need .
I think your doing the right thing by lowering the dose and Asin eod or as needed . There is side effects for every drug you take so less is better if you can get away with it .



estrogen ,


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So alittle less caber? .25 e3d?

So add some more AI? Aromisn 12.5 eod instead of every 4th.

Drop dose to 50mg from 75mg? Since it's a mix I'll go from 1cc from .8cc.

Any other ideas.


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id play with ur caber/prami dosage first. took me a few weeks to hit the sweet spot n have me functioning like a human again. i was running too must test tho. 50-50 mix of test n tren hence why my next cycle im running tren 2:1
 
Ok thanks.

It's weird. Now I feel pretty good. But a few hours ago I felt like a zombie. And I couldn't function.


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Ok thanks.

It's weird. Now I feel pretty good. But a few hours ago I felt like a zombie. And I couldn't function.


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exactly how i felt with too much caber/prami. only take it a few hrs b4 bed not during the day. it knocks u out cold!!!
 
Yea but I took my caber yesterday afternoon. Think it's still effecting me. Idk it's half life


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Ok thanks.

It's weird. Now I feel pretty good. But a few hours ago I felt like a zombie. And I couldn't function.


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What did you do between then and now?

Did you take anything? Eat anything? Think of everything you did.
 
Had a black coffee... Which didn't help.

At 230 I had lunch of 5oz chicken and 40g ez bread.

At 530 I had the same thing.

And now I just had a shake.

I didn't start feeling better till after 530




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Had a black coffee... Which didn't help.

At 230 I had lunch of 5oz chicken and 40g ez bread.

At 530 I had the same thing.

And now I just had a shake.

I didn't start feeling better till after 530




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Next time you start feeling exhausted or lethargic or symptoms of low blood sugar, eat some simple carbs (high GI, sugars...fast acting stuff). See how you feel after 50g or so. Should hit you quickly. Tren has an incredible (dare I say) almost insulin like effect on nutrition partitioning. Sometimes low carb diets, if not timed well, can wreak havoc on tren users.
 
Next time you start feeling exhausted or lethargic or symptoms of low blood sugar, eat some simple carbs (high GI, sugars...fast acting stuff). See how you feel after 50g or so. Should hit you quickly. Tren has an incredible (dare I say) almost insulin like effect on nutrition partitioning. Sometimes low carb diets, if not timed well, can wreak havoc on tren users.

Spike that insulin level ?


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Yea my carbs are pretty low in the am. Here my diet

8am)2 whole eggs,1/2 cup egg whites cooked in coconut oil

11am) 1 scoop whey. 1/2 cup oats.

Noon) workout 50g glycofuse 20g aminos

2) 4.6 oz chicken, 50grams brown rice

5pm) 4.6 oz chicken , 50 grams brown rice


730pm) 1 scoop whey, with green shakes

1030) 4.6oz chicken. 40g Ezekiel bread

1am) 1 scoop whey.


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I just finished my first week of 350mg Tren Ace/ 200mg Test P p/week. I have been cutting prior and felt like crap after 4th day. I started eating more carbs and feel so much better now. I take .5mg Caber E3D and have Liquidex and Prami just in case. I think what CEO is saying is spot on. I just needed to eat more and quit worrying about cutting and just let the Tren do its thing. It's pointless if you have no energy to train.

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Next time you start feeling exhausted or lethargic or symptoms of low blood sugar, eat some simple carbs (high GI, sugars...fast acting stuff). See how you feel after 50g or so. Should hit you quickly. Tren has an incredible (dare I say) almost insulin like effect on nutrition partitioning. Sometimes low carb diets, if not timed well, can wreak havoc on tren users.

This is a great post and very true. Don't be afraid of carbs while using tren.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong , but tren is such a strong and powerful drug that you have to keep your nutrition and calories high or it will wipe you out .
I was told to eat eat eat ! That tren along with hard training will burn off any exess calories . Shit I'm hungry now ! Think I'll go eat !


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Yea I'm use to eating 500 grams of carbs in the off season but my coach has me working my way down now. I'll see how it goes. If it doesn't get better ill up my food intake.


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I re feed with 500g of carbs every Saturday. But this week. I'm gonna have a cheat meal


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Definetly Tren its not for first time user. Why you did not chose another one ?


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Sleep was much better last night feeling pretty good this am. Took my AI. And I'll see how I feel as the day goes by.

Haven't had a cance to get a real good lift in since I do most of my main lifts on the weekend and the beginning of the week. Hopefully I'll feel the tren power Tmr for delt and triceps


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Good catch bro, I was scanning through these just b4 bed last nite...obviously not thinking it through lol

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Apparently I'm wrong too. Although it doesn't aromatize, apparently it produces false readings on female hormone panels at lab corp. Odd
 
Sleep was much better last night feeling pretty good this am. Took my AI. And I'll see how I feel as the day goes by.

Haven't had a cance to get a real good lift in since I do most of my main lifts on the weekend and the beginning of the week. Hopefully I'll feel the tren power Tmr for delt and triceps


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I've got an Idea for a Pre-workout boost, if your feeling Lethargic. 1 Tsp of Extra Virgin Coconut Oil.

The Medium Chained Triglyceride's will give you a big boost of Energy, because they can't be stored as fat, your body will use them

immediately....................................................JP

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Your fats could be a little higher. On low Carb days, you could go to 60 grams. It'll give you a lot more energy.
 
I've got an Idea for a Pre-workout boost, if your feeling Lethargic. 1 Tsp of Extra Virgin Coconut Oil.

The Medium Chained Triglyceride's will give you a big boost of Energy, because they can't be stored as fat, your body will use them

immediately....................................................JP

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Your fats could be a little higher. On low Carb days, you could go to 60 grams. It'll give you a lot more energy.

Think evo has a virus..lol. posts going all over the place

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I published an article a year ago about the proper way to use tren. you can probably google the article but I will re-hash a couple of the main mistakes guys make.

1. tren is 5X more androgenic and anabolic than test so its not for a first time user cause you won't be able to handle it naked
2. don't stack a bunch of things with tren at high dosages.. if you want to stack it then run tren very low.. I am talking under 150mg a week only. otherwise no reason to go above 250mg a week.
3. tren nutrition partitions better than any other steroid PERIOD. this means if you aren't eating enough calories and carbs during the day you will be screwed because you will have all the symptoms of low blood sugar
 
I published an article a year ago about the proper way to use tren. you can probably google the article but I will re-hash a couple of the main mistakes guys make.

1. tren is 5X more androgenic and anabolic than test so its not for a first time user cause you won't be able to handle it naked
2. don't stack a bunch of things with tren at high dosages.. if you want to stack it then run tren very low.. I am talking under 150mg a week only. otherwise no reason to go above 250mg a week.
3. tren nutrition partitions better than any other steroid PERIOD. this means if you aren't eating enough calories and carbs during the day you will be screwed because you will have all the symptoms of low blood sugar

More more ! Give us more :) stevemi I want to read the article . Thx


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yea man.....do you still have the article around somewhere....it should be a sticky.

Agreed. Guys try to jump into the deep end so quickly with tren by either taking it to soon or starting with too high of a dosage. Yes, it's more powerful than other steroids, but so are the sides.
 
I won't link the article due to copywrite but I will copy and paste it.
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Why does tren destroy cardio and why do I feel like crap on it sometimes?

This article explains the reasons and gives you ways to combat this.

The first strategy to use is you can carry some glucose pills and pop them during cardio. Why do I need them during cardio?

Cardio will drop blood sugar, combined with tren that will pretty much cause a person to experience major symptoms of low blood sugar. When I used to run half marathons we would drink some sugary drinks or eat cookies every 4 miles as a precaution. I never actually experienced hypo because I was a carb machine during those days, lots of bananas, grapes after the runs and I was fine. At the time I didn't understand why it was necessary but now after running tren I get it.

I notice on Tren when I wake up, after a workout or generally if i don't consume enough carbs during the day and go to lay down my blood sugar is really low. Everyone on here who works out intensely or runs etc knows what low blood sugar feels like I would hope, and its not a pleasant thing. If it gets too bad you can end up in the hospital but it can be solved with consuming some sugars/carbs easily.

Definitely, especially at night a few hours after I eat my last meal with complex carbs. Remember, after insulin, Tren is the most anabolic compound out there.

What I'm trying to tell you is that Rren utilizes almost all the nutrients you put in your body (almost total absorption), including "carbs." That is why I stress anyone who trains to be a bodybuilder should eat complex carbs every 2-3 hours especially when on Tren, which acts on the liver to stimulate the formation of glycogen from glucose and to inhibit the conversion of non-carbohydrates into glucose.

In other words, Tren is going to use up the carbs you eat fast, which will "lower" glycogen levels; that is why you are getting "low blood sugar levels." I suggest, if you take tren to eat complex carbs throughout the day to be proactive as much as possible.

Sometimes I do "two" cardio sessions; one in the morning and one at night 1hr 1/2 before bed. The session at night almost knocks me out. I get off the treadmill feeling dizzy and faint, but as soon as I eat a protein bar I'm fine. This happens because of low glycogen levels.

People don't realize how powerful tren really is.

YES, TREN will definitely lower your glycogen levels, so eat your complex carbs throughout the day to be proactive as much as possible, that's all we can do. Again, Tren is nothing to mess with .

Also, keep hydrated when taking Tren, even more than you would using other 'aas' because it has some thermogenic property that dehydrates the body. Being dehydrated does the opposite it; When you become dehydrated, the amount of liquid in your blood is low in relation to the nutrients and waste products in the blood. Therefore, concentrations of glucose increase. As glucose levels increase, blood circulation through the capillaries, the smallest blood vessels, diminishes.

Increased blood glucose levels can cause fatigue, blurred vision, increased thirst and an increased need to urinate, and send us to the hospital, so keep hydrated.

Some of you might not get the low blood sugar symptoms as bad as others, but i've read guys complain about anxiety on Tren, and I am suspecting it's actually your symptom of low blood sugar but you just think its anxiety or it could be a combo.

I think a lot of guys react differently to low blood sugar. Many have anxiety which can be linked to low blood sugar, or just acting odd and not being themselves. Sweating is a big one - guys who say that it's 50 degrees and they wake up in a puddle of sweat. Especially INSOMNIA which is a side you hear with Tren all the time but I never have a problem since I get in carbs before bed.

Here is a list of hypo symptoms I pulled up and it matches a lot of tren complaints and I would be curious if anyone really does keep carbs at a minimum on tren yet doesn't experience any of these sides. I suppose its possible in some, but very rare. If you are a Tren user and read this list and half of these things are your symptoms then you might want to definitely up your carbs.


Symptoms you may have when your blood sugar gets too low include:
Double vision or blurry vision
Fast or pounding heartbeat
Feeling cranky or acting aggressive
Feeling nervous
Headache
Hunger
Shaking or trembling
Sleeping trouble
Sweating
Tingling or numbness of the skin
Tiredness or weakness
Trouble sleeping
Unclear thinking

I keep some fresh apple cider in my fridge. If I start feeling low sugar on tren then i drink some of that. It's a healthy way to boost my blood sugar. but its still consuming sugar unfortunately and not gonna help me shred up for a comp that I have in a few days.

Conclusion: My advice when taking Tren; eat complex carbs every 2-3 hours throughout the day and almost double your normal water intake.
 
Thanks Brother , that answers my question about the 5th meal also .

I fucking love good info to learn from ! It gives me an energy boost . Think I'll go do a set !


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Ok so today I have been feeling perfectly fine. I'm really trying to drink a ton of water. And spread my carbs out more.

I think I felt like shit bc I took caber and I don't think I need it yet along with me getting no sleep the night before.

I'll keep everyone posted. Hopefully this can be helpful for some first time user of tren like my self.


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Ok so today I have been feeling perfectly fine. I'm really trying to drink a ton of water. And spread my carbs out more.

I think I felt like shit bc I took caber and I don't think I need it yet along with me getting no sleep the night before.

I'll keep everyone posted. Hopefully this can be helpful for some first time user of tren like my self.


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I'm with you brother ! Glad your feeling better . My night sweats came last night , but wasn't that bad :)


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Ok so today I have been feeling perfectly fine. I'm really trying to drink a ton of water. And spread my carbs out more.

I think I felt like shit bc I took caber and I don't think I need it yet along with me getting no sleep the night before.

I'll keep everyone posted. Hopefully this can be helpful for some first time user of tren like my self.


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Don't hope....know that this thread is helping me. I'll be a first timer on any AAS soon. This thread is helping me really square up my planned cycle and figure out what suppz I need to have on hand.

Keep the info coming.
 
Think evo has a virus..lol. posts going all over the place

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I think your right, but, this post is where it should be.

I was looking at his Diet, and he said he was Lethargic.

Tren makes you a lot of things, Lethargic is not one of them.

His Fats are way Low, he needs to come up at least 20 grams, maybe more, depending on his Body-Type, cause that

Matters......................................................JP

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Coconut Oil is fabulous for Energy, and your body can not store it, because it's a Medium Chain Fat.

If the Blogs weren't down, I did a post on all the benefits of Coconut Oil, it's on there, or look way back on the Threads.
 
I was looking at his Diet, and he said he was Lethargic.

Tren makes you a lot of things, Lethargic is not one of them..

read my article I posted and you will understand why tren can most definitely make you lethargic.

tren can also give you hypo spells, especially at night. this is why SOME guys say they wake up in a pool of sweat. luckily the body is good at getting you out of trouble BUT you always want to keep glycogen pills handy
 
read my article I posted and you will understand why tren can most definitely make you lethargic.

tren can also give you hypo spells, especially at night. this is why SOME guys say they wake up in a pool of sweat. luckily the body is good at getting you out of trouble BUT you always want to keep glycogen pills handy

I've done a lot of Tren without any problems. Both E and A. Night sweats only in the Summer, in Winter I just stay warm.

I happen to be Hypoglycemic, I've never had a problem.

But hey, everyone is different...........................................................JP

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I did read your Article
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His Fats are very low, 40 grams a day, isn't enough.
 
I also have a theory that most of the people having the worst experiences with tren are cutting. If you're dieting under maintenance and using tren, you're asking for trouble IMO. Tren wants food... nutrients, carbs, etc and when you're under feeding that beast, expect to feel like ass and experience the bad side of tren
 
Great thread fellas.. Alot of great info in here. Whats the suggestion on deciding what ester to use for the first time?

Ive heard try ace first, so you can bail if you need to.. then ive heard try the long ester as it builds up slowly and is more manageable.

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Great thread fellas.. Alot of great info in here. Whats the suggestion on deciding what ester to use for the first time?

Ive heard try ace first, so you can bail if you need to.. then ive heard try the long ester as it builds up slowly and is more manageable.

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Tren e for me but tryin tren a this time. As long as u got all the info n caber on hand etc I wudnt hesitate on tren e for an experienced juicer


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Great thread fellas.. Alot of great info in here. Whats the suggestion on deciding what ester to use for the first time?

Ive heard try ace first, so you can bail if you need to.. then ive heard try the long ester as it builds up slowly and is more manageable.

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Everyone is gonna tell you "ace" so you can bail out but the irony is, ace is the only one people are bailing on. You hardly ever hear of someone dumping tren E. I've used both and I believe without a doubt that enanthate is a better choice for a beginner. It's just so much easier to manage the sides
 
I've done a lot of Tren without any problems. Both E and A. Night sweats only in the Summer, in Winter I just stay warm.

I happen to be Hypoglycemic, I've never had a problem.

But hey, everyone is different...........................................................JP

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I did read your Article
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His Fats are very low, 40 grams a day, isn't enough.

Id have to say I agree with this
 
I also have a theory that most of the people having the worst experiences with tren are cutting. If you're dieting under maintenance and using tren, you're asking for trouble IMO. Tren wants food... nutrients, carbs, etc and when you're under feeding that beast, expect to feel like ass and experience the bad side of tren

And this!!!
 
Little update! So today is my 6 day on my mix 2. Today I did delts and triceps.

I def feel the negative side in terms of cardio. It was very hard for me to breath during the workout. I felt so pump thru my whole upper body that it was hard to get a deep breath.

I must say the pump lasted for ever and it was a pump I never really felt before.

My strength was the same and I was dragging ass a bit. But I'm def feeling it starting to kick in.

So far no night sweats of insomnia yet. Just tired all day and sluggish.


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Damn Brother , push thru that shit and get fired up , your on tren baby ! Don't let this sides get in your head ! You got this brother ! Fuck that no sides ! Eat good , drink a fucking Monster ! Get your swoll on !


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I didnt see it in the thread, but are you running sarms1 GW?

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Curious what your activities are throughout the day, do you desk job or are you running around all day? I'm about same stats as you and when I started a diet similar I had same feelings, think my calories were at to much of a deficit.


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I'm a personal trainer in the am. With in home clients and I work on the railroad from 4 pm till midnight. And I also go to school. I very busy.


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I'm a personal trainer in the am. With in home clients and I work on the railroad from 4 pm till midnight. And I also go to school. I very busy.


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Sweet workout and get paid then work again. That's dedication. I'm about to jump on tren soon. We'll see how that goes. Fingers crossed lol
 
So last night was my first experience with night sweets. Went to bed around 12 woke up at 3am hot as hell and heart pounding.

I drink like 3 cups of water. Had an apple and a teaspoon of honey. And went back to bed. Slept fine after that.


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So last night was my first experience with night sweets. Went to bed around 12 woke up at 3am hot as hell and heart pounding.

I drink like 3 cups of water. Had an apple and a teaspoon of honey. And went back to bed. Slept fine after that.


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Yeah me to , I woke a 4 a lil anxious and sweaty . I will do like you a grab a quick bite next time . Ware a poly shirt to bed , cotton just gets cold and stays wet !


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Lol. Glad we going thru this together. No homo. Hahha.

Weird. I had blood in my pin today after I injected. This has happened before. And I still didn't get the tren cough!!!!! Maybe I'm lucky and don't get it.

I figured I would def have got it. With a little blood in there but no nothing.


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Better hold onto your ass first time on tren

Youre experience is the one that scars me bro

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Just did back and intervals. Breathing was much better today.


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Get Sum Warrior ! My riding is thru the roof yesterday I felt like a beast ! Then I had a mechanical and had to pull out :(


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Yea bro I must admit my strength has not gone up at all but we will see hasn't even been a week


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My reps just went up . On weight that I would fail at 8 to 10 reps , it felt as I could easily do 13 to 15 !


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Have u started taking caber yet? I've only taken it once and it knocked me out flat.


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No man , you only need caber if your prolactin levels rise , and if you control your E levels you should be alright . Were you listening to the post before :) I know masters of this game that have used tren many times and never had any problems . Not saying it won't happen to you or I , but if you take all precautions to keep your estrogen levels low take your vitamins and say your preyers . You'll be fine . It's good to have on hand .

I don't want to take anything I don't need ! I know Masters that know their body's well enough that don't even use an AI at the doses were running .

You worrying yourself Don't help , stress ain't good ! Whoa ! Is their Deca in that blend ?


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Lol no deca. Yea I'm running an AI eod. So estrogen should be in check. Plus my blend has mast which should help a bit too. What are some simple signs that u need caber?


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Plan for the night is to take a slice of Ezekiel bread and spread some honey and put it on my night stand just in case I get some low blood sugar


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Put "prolactin/estrogen management" and another one "How to control estrogen" in the search bar and a great thread by one of the great masters of this game will pop up and You will learn !


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I've always ran tren lower than test. More of a
2:1 test: tren a. I never remember feeling that lethargic. I would power thru workouts with non-stop stamina and strength would go thru the roof. I would eat almost every hour or every other. Insane how hungry I would get. I did get crazy night sweats tho. And sweat a lot when training.
 
I also have a theory that most of the people having the worst experiences with tren are cutting. If you're dieting under maintenance and using tren, you're asking for trouble IMO. Tren wants food... nutrients, carbs, etc and when you're under feeding that beast, expect to feel like ass and experience the bad side of tren

I second this theory. Mostly because of the tren partition. It feeds muscles what they want/need so well, that it uses nutrients for nothing else when on a caloric deficit. It robs peter to pay paul.


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I've always ran tren lower than test. More of a
2:1 test: tren a. I never remember feeling that lethargic. I would power thru workouts with non-stop stamina and strength would go thru the roof. I would eat almost every hour or every other. Insane how hungry I would get. I did get crazy night sweats tho. And sweat a lot when training.

I strongly recommend keeping test to a TRT dose on tren.


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So alittle less caber? .25 e3d?

So add some more AI? Aromisn 12.5 eod instead of every 4th.

Drop dose to 50mg from 75mg? Since it's a mix I'll go from 1cc from .8cc.

Any other ideas. /QUOTE]


Could be your natural reaction bro... be careful
 
Hello there guys I'm a newbie here and appreciate all the info you guys are sharing, I'm curious STEVESMI what happens when you are on a ketogenic diet which is very low on carbs and do Tren? for the purpose of knowledge in case someone is not aware of the Keto diet here is the definion by Wiki:
The ketogenic diet is a high-fat, adequate-protein, low-carbohydrate diet that in medicine is used primarily to treat difficult-to-control (refractory) epilepsy in children. The diet forces the body to burn fats rather than carbohydrates. Normally, the carbohydrates contained in food are converted into glucose, which is then transported around the body and is particularly important in fuelling brain function. However, if there is very little carbohydrate in the diet, the liver converts fat into fatty acids and ketone bodies. The ketone bodies pass into the brain and replace glucose as an energy source.
That being said the body turns to fat as its main energy provider instead of glucose from carbs, what happens if I'm on this diet and doing Tren? I just started on Monday and other than difficulty to sleep I haven't had anything else, I know it kills cardio but I'm really interested to read from you guys who have had much more experience on tren.

Thanks in advance,
 
Hello there guys I'm a newbie here and appreciate all the info you guys are sharing, I'm curious STEVESMI what happens when you are on a ketogenic diet which is very low on carbs and do Tren? for the purpose of knowledge in case someone is not aware of the Keto diet here is the definion by Wiki:
The ketogenic diet is a high-fat, adequate-protein, low-carbohydrate diet that in medicine is used primarily to treat difficult-to-control (refractory) epilepsy in children. The diet forces the body to burn fats rather than carbohydrates. Normally, the carbohydrates contained in food are converted into glucose, which is then transported around the body and is particularly important in fuelling brain function. However, if there is very little carbohydrate in the diet, the liver converts fat into fatty acids and ketone bodies. The ketone bodies pass into the brain and replace glucose as an energy source.
That being said the body turns to fat as its main energy provider instead of glucose from carbs, what happens if I'm on this diet and doing Tren? I just started on Monday and other than difficulty to sleep I haven't had anything else, I know it kills cardio but I'm really interested to read from you guys who have had much more experience on tren.

Thanks in advance,

Can u please resubmit as a new topic, thx
 
When do you pin? my guess is you pin in the morning .. try switching and pin in the evening and up your carbs a bit
 
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