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Ok I am 41yrs old and on my first cycle in about 5yrs....started running sust and in about week 3 went to 1mil sust 250 and .7ml of tren ace eod along with 1ml test cyp 200 a week...I recently was told that after awhile tren will give you ED?! can't have that, I also have recently switched to 100mg of sust and 40mg of tren ace ed, continuing my cyp 200 once a week (its prescribed) so the same person who told me that told me that eq would be better to run for libido but I though eq was a nandrolone....some clarity on this please my goal is to keep what I have, get harder more defined and cut belly fat.
 
bro equipoise will make you hungry....not good for cutting...stick to a 2:1 test/tren ration, and you don't need to worry about ED....
 
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gearhead said:
bro equipoise will make you hungry....not good for cutting...stick to a 2:1 test/tren ration, and you don't need to worry about ED....
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Thanks bro so treat it like a nanda lone and keep the test levels up and I should be good right...
 
bone711 said:
Ok I am 41yrs old and on my first cycle in about 5yrs....started running sust and in about week 3 went to 1mil sust 250 and .7ml of tren ace eod along with 1ml test cyp 200 a week...I recently was told that after awhile tren will give you ED?! can't have that, I also have recently switched to 100mg of sust and 40mg of tren ace ed, continuing my cyp 200 once a week (its prescribed) so the same person who told me that told me that eq would be better to run for libido but I though eq was a nandrolone....some clarity on this please my goal is to keep what I have, get harder more defined and cut belly fat.
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Bro if you running Tren, pls make sure to have CABER on hands 0.5mg every 3 day. This is very important to reduce sides. Supplementing with Taurine on cycle will help you with cramps, and do your liver a favor by running a protection like n2guard



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Are you taking an anti-estrogen at all?
Issues with Tren are come when Prolactin levels are high and that kills your mojo, Caber twice a week will fix that but only take it if you get symptoms since your dose is low.
Def a good idea to keep it handy
 
I had a labido that was through the roof when i was on tren. I was also running mast with it tho so it was probably from that.
 
You don't need to run test at double the tren. I run mine at 200mg and tren at 400mg+ and my libido is crazy. Proviron and caber are your friends
 
jams472000 said:
Are you taking an anti-estrogen at all?
Issues with Tren are come when Prolactin levels are high and that kills your mojo, Caber twice a week will fix that but only take it if you get symptoms since your dose is low.
Def a good idea to keep it handy
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this is all well said and spot on... caber at .5 mg every three days will be what your needing




bonacris said:
You don't need to run test at double the tren. I run mine at 200mg and tren at 400mg+ and my libido is crazy. Proviron and caber are your friends
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thank you! i will never understand why everyone always thinks running test is the thing to do... it SHUTS YOU DOWN MORE... and also correct about proviron and caber being your friends... absolutely spot on...
 
CABER? never heard of it. I was taking a .5mg of adex a day and it had me so dry that I could hardly walk my joints were hurting so bad. how do I tell if my prolactin levels are low. I have never had issues with gyno or anything....
 
never run tren without caber. simply running test with tren isnt the solution because tren is a 19-nor and as such causes prolactin which isnt combated with test, its combated with CAber
 
does everyone on here have the consensus that caber must be ran while on tren? i ran my tren cycle without using it, but did have it on hand just in case...
 
420mike said:
does everyone on here have the consensus that caber must be ran while on tren? i ran my tren cycle without using it, but did have it on hand just in case...
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If you know you dont need it personally then dont run it. But if you run it from the start it wont hurt anything. It isnt like running a suicide AI where your estrogen is wiped out and joints are dried to shit.
 
-SD- said:
If you know you dont need it personally then dont run it. But if you run it from the start it wont hurt anything. It isnt like running a suicide AI where your estrogen is wiped out and joints are dried to shit.
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i take it you run it with deca as well?
 
EQ is not nandralone. It also has been known to fuck with libido in some people. YES. Tren dick man. You should b running pramipexole or cabergoline with tren AND nandralone. These are things you should've researched before starting. Get one of those prolactin drugs ASAP or you will likely start having multiple issues to include ED.


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420mike said:
does everyone on here have the consensus that caber must be ran while on tren? i ran my tren cycle without using it, but did have it on hand just in case...
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I do. Better safe than sorry right? The majority will get these side effects and believe me you don't want to wake up one day and realize you should've used it because by then effects are taking place.


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JackSteel said:
EQ is not nandralone. It also has been known to fuck with libido in some people. YES. Tren dick man. You should b running pramipexole or cabergoline with tren AND nandralone. These are things you should've researched before starting. Get one of those prolactin drugs ASAP or you will likely start having multiple issues to include ED.


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I second that. I was on tren ace for awhile last cycle. My dose was 400 mg per week it killed my libido. I cut my dose down and I got some caber. I won't do tren again without caber. I probably won't do tren again anyway. Just not worth it. The sides kinda suck. But it is good
 
ok so how about some help locating some caber because I've been looking with no luck. also would it hurt me to just stop the tren and continue test until I get some caber...I agree should've researched more, it's been about 5years since my last cycle and was very versed back then and never heard of caber...
 
what are thoughts of switching to masteron instead of tren? sides? and should I run something with that?
 
also I always read that as far as nandralone's go as long as your intake was about 75% of your test intake you were g2g...
 
bone711 said:
what are thoughts of switching to masteron instead of tren? sides? and should I run something with that?
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Now I never took mast before cause I could never get my bodyfat below 10 And I read some where on this site or ef its not worth it unless you have a low bodyfat count. If you are looking to cut some weight or bodyfat, look into SARMs. I cut alot of weight with SARMS and then I added Tren to the mix to give me that strength back. But my diet was good and my workouts were high intensity(mostly cardio) 4 to 5 times a week. What is your goal?
 
Nevermind I read your first post again. We pretty much had the same goal. Look into SARMs especially GW. Cut down your dose on tren til you get caber. Look on AG Guys for Dostinex and I also got some from Madison James I think. Liquid form but it work fine for me.
 
gmoneypro said:
Nevermind I read your first post again. We pretty much had the same goal. Look into SARMs especially GW. Cut down your dose on tren til you get caber. Look on AG Guys for Dostinex and I also got some from Madison James I think. Liquid form but it work fine for me.
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thanks bro!
 
well this is what I decided to do being, that I am 100 miles in the gulf of mexico right now at work, I will finish out the tren, its just maybe 3 or 4 more injections and run out the sust like I have been taking it but will up my test cyp from 200mg a week o 400 and see if that can level me out till I can get my hands on some caber. I did order some nolvadex today so I will incorporate that...
 
bone711 said:
well this is what I decided to do being, that I am 100 miles in the gulf of mexico right now at work, I will finish out the tren, its just maybe 3 or 4 more injections and run out the sust like I have been taking it but will up my test cyp from 200mg a week o 400 and see if that can level me out till I can get my hands on some caber. I did order some nolvadex today so I will incorporate that...
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...probably not the ideal way to handle things but I figure by upping the cyp it will pick up where the sust leaves off and once I get caber will start tren again...
 
If I read this right you are going by what someone told you what you will feel , not by how you feel ? Sure you will most likely talk yourself into ED , before it happens , if it happens . Get some caber " just in case " never hurts .

I don't know why your running Sust and cyp ? Why not run the Sust and tren , then save the cyp to cruise on . In other words , when your cycle is over .

What are you using the Nolva for , do you feel gyno sides coming on , or for PCT ?


" Caann youuu dig itttt ! "
 
Yeah flip is right. Just run the Sust and hold on to the test cyp for a trt dose. You don't need both. You are really going to shut yourself down more. Don't let how you feel in the gym with tren control you. Its really not worth it. I made that mistake on my first tren cycle. You can actually do some good with just test and a good diet with exercise. You will cut the weight. Look at your diet and exercise before making drastic changes. I just don't want to see you shut yourself down anymore.
 
Flip Digler said:
If I read this right you are going by what someone told you what you will feel , not by how you feel ? Sure you will most likely talk yourself into ED , before it happens , if it happens . Get some caber " just in case " never hurts .

I don't know why your running Sust and cyp ? Why not run the Sust and tren , then save the cyp to cruise on . In other words , when your cycle is over .

What are you using the Nolva for , do you feel gyno sides coming on , or for PCT ?


" Caann youuu dig itttt ! "
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Nolva was gonna be to keep on hand for pct, due to the fact that I work in the gulf of mexico and take the chance of running out of gear out here so ii will have the nolva on hand....I feel good, my junk gets hard, I was running just sust and just in the last week took 1cc of cyp other than that I been running just sust and tren
 
gmoneypro said:
Yeah flip is right. Just run the Sust and hold on to the test cyp for a trt dose. You don't need both. You are really going to shut yourself down more. Don't let how you feel in the gym with tren control you. Its really not worth it. I made that mistake on my first tren cycle. You can actually do some good with just test and a good diet with exercise. You will cut the weight. Look at your diet and exercise before making drastic changes. I just don't want to see you shut yourself down anymore.
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so do like I been doing and just hold my cyp for trt when off cycle. and these guys give me these names of places to get caber, I have no idea who those places are. also a friend of mine told me to run nolva during cycle and it would help?? so safely I can get about the same results running just sust and no tren with less sides...I am almost out of sust but have located some prop...
 
bone711 said:
so do like I been doing and just hold my cyp for trt when off cycle. and these guys give me these names of places to get caber, I have no idea who those places are. also a friend of mine told me to run nolva during cycle and it would help?? so safely I can get about the same results running just sust and no tren with less sides...I am almost out of sust but have located some prop...
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If you are running term you NEVER take nolvadex! It will make prolactin issues more of a concern and potentially cause you to have a nice set of lactating tits. Don't run it in pct either unless you are sure that the term is all the way out.of your system.
clomid for pct serm.
you can get caber easily through a number of overseas online drug retailers or you can purchase dostinex (generic caber name) from ag guys. Be careful with this stuff bro until you are fully educated about side effects and drug interactions. I would recommend test only pending further research.
you can switch from dust to prop without issue. Just remember that prop needs to be pinned EOD at least. You can keep your dosage the same, or reduce it just slightly, as prop contains slightly more active ingredient per ml than sust. Prob easiest to just keep it the same.
good luck
 
Bigbird138 said:
If you are running term you NEVER take nolvadex! It will make prolactin issues more of a concern and potentially cause you to have a nice set of lactating tits. Don't run it in pct either unless you are sure that the term is all the way out.of your system.
clomid for pct serm.
you can get caber easily through a number of overseas online drug retailers or you can purchase dostinex (generic caber name) from ag guys. Be careful with this stuff bro until you are fully educated about side effects and drug interactions. I would recommend test only pending further research.
you can switch from dust to prop without issue. Just remember that prop needs to be pinned EOD at least. You can keep your dosage the same, or reduce it just slightly, as prop contains slightly more active ingredient per ml than sust. Prob easiest to just keep it the same.
good luck
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what is ag guys?
 
You should be able to make a good sound decision with all this info and knowledge. Protect yourself. Good luck on whatever you decide.
 
all this tren talk making me want to jump on the train again
maybe a down and dirty 6 week ace cycle
 
Yeah I like tren but it got me hooked. I found myself chasing the high. Like a damn drug addiction. So I raised the dose which made the sides even crazier. So if you can control that go for it. Its good stuff.
 
gmoneypro said:
Yeah I like tren but it got me hooked. I found myself chasing the high. Like a damn drug addiction. So I raised the dose which made the sides even crazier. So if you can control that go for it. Its good stuff.
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better to go about 6 months between riding the train
but thats hard as you well know
 
Im really considering running tren in the next few months myself. We will see :grin:
 
interested to see how being on HGH for half a year would treat a tren cycle (3iu/ED)
or any cycle for that matter
 
I just finished my first Tren run (pinned the last one this morning). I went a little unconventional, ran Test E and Tren A. I ran the test at 300mg a week and the Tren at 50mg EOD. I read on Evo that the Test should help combat the ED, however keep caber on hand. I picked up the caber at AG-guys like suggested, but I never needed it. I also am running 20mg of adex ED. I'm still running the Test for the next 4 weeks to complete my 12 week cycle. I'm planning on upping the dose to 600mg. The Tren was a little intense, all the normal sides- night sweats, insomnia, bad attitude, it killed my cardio and endurance. It hit me like a freight train though. When it kicked in I felt like I could flip a freaking car over, and my muscles rocked up. I used GW to combat the cardio issues and am pleased with the product. As far as my libido on the Tren, I convinced the Test did the trick. When I'm not molesting my wife every night, I'm busting holes in cinder blocks! I'm 37 and feel like 15 year old. All I think about is pussy! Everyone is different brother. You have to figure out what works for you......
 
Serpent said:
I have pretty bad reactions to caber and prami, is vitamin b6 or the active form a good alternative?


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Its an ultra ghetto temporary fix. Id run it at a gram a day for it to fight off the prolactin. Problem is b6 ran for long periods can mess with your nervous system. It works for temporary fix though.
 
i ran Caber every now and then on my first tren cycle at 600mg ... my 2nd cycle of tren e at 600mg i only took it twice and only did aromasin once a week.. I'm thankful i dont have estrogen issues... i was only taking 300mg of test e a week though.... Plus my sex drive never died, i was fucking 4 to 5 times a day and half the time my dick wouldnt go down after blowing a load...
 
RickRock said:
Caber is an anti-prolactin also known as Dostinex. It is need any time you run Tren or a nandrolone to reduce prolactin that can cause gyno and ED issues
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I just posted a request for some advice as I'm contemplating a low dose cycle of Tren Enen when the weather cools off. I live in the EU with absolutely paranoid Customs, they confiscate EVERYTHING even remotely medical which isn't posted out from within the EU. I normally buy from PSL, but I've never seen caber on their site.

Can anyone tell me where I can get this posted from inside the EU?

Finally, how does one know that you need to take it and how much?
 
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