"RoidMass" - New Member (First Cycle)

[RicoBravoUSA]

What's up bro?

So I just recently stumbled across the forum as I've been doing a bit of research for myself out of
curiosity.

Here's some rough stats:
Weight - 160+/-
Height - 5'9''
BMI - 20%

I've been reading over a couple of different logs and tips and guides and such - and after a bit of thinking
and weighing out my options I've come up with what I think is a moderate and mild "Beginner's Cycle"
for myself. I plan on taking a trip to the doctor and getting some blood test prior and during the time to
keep an eye out for my cholesterol and blood pressure amongst other things. Ultimately, my only desire
with this first cycle would be to take note and document the physical/attitude transformation over a
course of about 6-10 weeks. More than likely I will "stretch" the doses and "tap my feet in the water".
They always say the first steps are the roughest for sure, so I'm certain that with experience will come
knowledge and a bit more accuracy with my tactics to achieve my goals.

On-Cycle
Anavar: 10mg. (Every Other Day)
Test-P: 50mg. (Every 4 Days)
Sustanon: 250mg. (Once Weekly)

PCT
Nolvadex: 10mg. (Every Other Day)
Aromasin: 10mg. (Every Other Day)
Clomid: 25mg. (Daily)

This would be going along with my regular diet that I could honestly work on Furthermore, I'll
be taking "Animal M-Stak" Packs (Two Days, Skip One) and "Dymatize Super Mass Gainer" (1/2 Serving
2-3 Times Daily).
I was wondering what where your thoughts?



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[muskate]

On your cycle you are missing 2 important support supplements -

1. An AI like aromasin to keep estrogen levels in the normal range -> https://www.evolutionary.org/aromasin-exemestane
2. A good liver aid supplement like n2guard from using the anavar since it is a liver toxic oral steroid -> https://www.evolutionary.org/n2guard

Your PCT needs a complete overhaul. That old school 2 SERM protocol is not optimal at all.
Check out the perfect PCT protocol -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html
The perfect PCT will ensure that your natural testosterone levels fully recover and you keep all the gains you made on your steroid cycle.

 

[Mobster]

Rather than create your own version why not try the tried and tested versions. Example: no one uses that amount of anavar.

 

[stevesmi]

BMI 20% means nothing

what is your body fat?

 

[RicoBravoUSA]

Rather than create your own version why not try the tried and tested versions. Example: no one uses that amount of anavar.

Understood, I’ll have to look at some of the beginner recommendations again. my only concern was that perhaps the doses/mixtures were for someone looking for intense or incredible results. Pretty much I assumed that cutting that in half would still yield good gains - just maybe it would take a bit longer.


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[RicoBravoUSA]

On your cycle you are missing 2 important support supplements -

1. An AI like aromasin to keep estrogen levels in the normal range -> https://www.evolutionary.org/aromasin-exemestane
2. A good liver aid supplement like n2guard from using the anavar since it is a liver toxic oral steroid -> https://www.evolutionary.org/n2guard

Your PCT needs a complete overhaul. That old school 2 SERM protocol is not optimal at all.
Check out the perfect PCT protocol -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html
The perfect PCT will ensure that your natural testosterone levels fully recover and you keep all the gains you made on your steroid cycle.

Reply @Muskate - Noted [emoji106] Definitely don’t want my organs failing on me! I’ll most certainly have to do another round of study and make adjustments. Really appreciate the words of wisdom bro!


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[Eddie Haskell]

Rather than create your own version why not try the tried and tested versions. Example: no one uses that amount of anavar [10mgs per day].

I think that a lot of guys choose to use such minuscule and therefore meaningless amounts of 'var simply because they are unable to afford to purchase meaningful amounts of 'var. Although that is completely understandable, taking less than 30mgs of 'var per day is still a waste.

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On-Cycle
Anavar: 10mg. (Every Other Day)
Test-P: 50mg. (Every 4 Days)
Sustanon: 250mg. (Once Weekly)

PCT
Nolvadex: 10mg. (Every Other Day)
Aromasin: 10mg. (Every Other Day)
Clomid: 25mg. (Daily)

That is one of the worst layouts I have ever seen.

 

[RicoBravoUSA]

I think that a lot of guys choose to use such minuscule and therefore meaningless amounts of 'var simply because they are unable to afford to purchase meaningful amounts of 'var. Although that is completely understandable, taking less than 30mgs of 'var per day is still a waste.

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That is one of the worst layouts I have ever seen.

While your point of view is skewed it is understandable. [emoji119]
My choice of dose is based solely on my inexperience with the substance - hence its affects on my own body would be complete mystery.
Essentially “you’ve gotta crawl before you walk”
Now, as far as PCT goes, I was simply under the impression that Clomid and Novalex alone would get the job done (as far as balancing out the hormones after the cycle)
Obviously I just need more time to dig deeper and come up with a better game plan. *
Constructive criticism is appreciated, But don’t disrespect this pimpin’. [emoji18]


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[jp4355]

You would have been better off, just using Test C or E @ 500 Mg a Week.

And 10 Mg of Anavar EOD, is just a Waste of Anavar.
Try 20 Mg AM and 20 Mg PM, and Don't Skip any Days.
Then you'll see some results......................................... JP

 

[Eddie Haskell]

While your point of view is skewed it is understandable. [emoji119]

All right. But remember, Rico, I wrote "I think that a lot of guys choose to use such minuscule and therefore meaningless amounts of 'var..." It was a general statement; that which did not necessarily allude to you. Nonetheless...

My choice of dose is based solely on my inexperience with the substance - hence its affects on my own body would be complete mystery.

Fair enough and absolutely understandable. But were you to have read widely about the subject of anavar prior to devising your proposed cycle, then you would likely have learned that 40mgs per day is an absolute minimum vis-a-vis 'var.

Essentially “you’ve gotta crawl before you walk.”[/AUOTE]

Indeed, sir. Just be certain to crawl/read a lot before you walk/use gear.

Now, as far as PCT goes, I was simply under the impression that Clomid and Novalex alone would get the job done (as far as balancing out the hormones after the cycle).

Yes, clomid and nolvadex alone would suffice for the rather odd cycle you proposed. It is simply your proposed doses as well as your "every other day" that are problematic.

This is what your PCT need look like:

Clomid: 50/50/25/25 - week one/week two/week three/week four
Nolvadex: 40/40/20/20
Aromasin: 12.5mgs every other day throughout the entire course of both your cycle and your PCT.



Obviously I just need more time to dig deeper and come up with a better game plan. *
Constructive criticism is appreciated, But don’t disrespect this pimpin’. [emoji18]

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You would have been better off, just using Test C or E @ 500 Mg a Week.

Indeed.....

 

[AddarInc]

Welcome bro....

 

[RicoBravoUSA]

Welcome bro....

Appreciated mang Just trying to soak some knowledge [emoji18]


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[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Honestly just scrap the entire thing. At 160lbs and 5'9" there is no way you have a good muscular base built up yet. You still have a lot to gain naturally just by perfecting diet and training. Steroids are not magic drugs so if you don't have your diet/training locked in, you wont see any results. It will just be a waste of money. I would work to gain another 20lbs of muscle naturally before using steroids. Once you are there test only is the cycle you want. Don't try to get creative with it as you can just send your hormones on a rollercoaster ride or worse, just waste money by running too low of a dose. You would basically be shutting down your natural test production just to replace it with an exogenous source.

 

[RicoBravoUSA]

I would work to gain another 20lbs of muscle naturally before using steroids. Once you are there test only is the cycle you want..

Reply @ Masonic Bodybuilder

Noted & Understood - Ironically that was my goal to enter into 2018 @180 +/-
Seems like a bit of a stretch at this point — Then again my discipline and consistency has yet to be as compelling as it should be.

Even greater reason why I should take more time to work harder and learn more. [emoji119]


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