Veteran Log Dozers journey to the stage and cycle

[s.gentz]

I know the great vison said euro makes some of the smoothest Dhb. I would like to try Dhb and npp run again for the future bulk any thoughts?

I've used their DHB last year on a cut. It's painless. Only issue was that some of it crashed and wouldn't come back I think that's why they lowered the concentration a bit.
This was my cycle. Would love to run this with higher DHB and no tren. Went from 218lbs down to 194lbs in 12 weeks.

Week 1-12
250mg/wk. TestE
400mg/wk. DHB
400mg/wk. TrenE
2iu HGH 5 on/2off AM pre fasted cardio
50mg/day osterine
20mg/day carderine
t3 80mcg/day
Yohimbine HCL 5mg
Week 8-12
50mg/day anavar
50mg/day winstrol

 

[Dozer55]

i will put it this way. 25G needle is too thin for it. i had to use 23G

after injection i was on the ground in agony screaming. its like injecting motor oil its so thick. and its only 100mg/ml so you gotta torture yourself to get in enough CC's. it was 12 weeks of hell and it was expensive as fuck on top of it. $1200 for a cycle of it

the newer guys to steroids have no clue what we went through back in the day with steroids. no clue at all. today we have 10 great brands providing great primo at 200mg/ml that is much more smooth. and its extremely affordable

My god that’s horrible haha idk how you made it through 12 weeks

 

[Dozer55]

I've used their DHB last year on a cut. It's painless. Only issue was that some of it crashed and wouldn't come back I think that's why they lowered the concentration a bit.
This was my cycle. Would love to run this with higher DHB and no tren. Went from 218lbs down to 194lbs in 12 weeks.

Week 1-12
250mg/wk. TestE
400mg/wk. DHB
400mg/wk. TrenE
2iu HGH 5 on/2off AM pre fasted cardio
50mg/day osterine
20mg/day carderine
t3 80mcg/day
Yohimbine HCL 5mg
Week 8-12
50mg/day anavar
50mg/day winstrol

I like that cycle pretty solid man!

Looks like they still have the 100mg/ml. I saw the 75mg. My goal for what I’m thinking is

Dhb-400
Teste-250-375 might do what you did and keep it just at trt.

Ill those for 16 weeks if I can handle it and my BP isn’t wild maybe I’ll go 500 on Dhb that’s of progress stops.

Then for the last 4-6 weeks I’m gunna try winstrol out 25-50mg ed

 

[LevButlerov]

I like that cycle pretty solid man!

Looks like they still have the 100mg/ml. I saw the 75mg. My goal for what I’m thinking is

Dhb-400
Teste-250-375 might do what you did and keep it just at trt.

Ill those for 16 weeks if I can handle it and my BP isn’t wild maybe I’ll go 500 on Dhb that’s of progress stops.

Then for the last 4-6 weeks I’m gunna try winstrol out 25-50mg ed

@Dozer55 that is a solid cycle, I was following @s.gentz log when he ran it, good results

I think you should shoot for 12 weeks with a 2-4 week pyramid adjustment

 

[Dozer55]

@Dozer55 that is a solid cycle, I was following @s.gentz log when he ran it, good results

I think you should shoot for 12 weeks with a 2-4 week pyramid adjustment

I might start low at 200 see how I take it the 300 then 400 I got big on 400

 

[s.gentz]

I like that cycle pretty solid man!

Looks like they still have the 100mg/ml. I saw the 75mg. My goal for what I’m thinking is

Dhb-400
Teste-250-375 might do what you did and keep it just at trt.

Ill those for 16 weeks if I can handle it and my BP isn’t wild maybe I’ll go 500 on Dhb that’s of progress stops.

Then for the last 4-6 weeks I’m gunna try winstrol out 25-50mg ed

I would keep test low around 250-300 and run the DHB a bit higher. I think 600 would be solid. DHB is basically EQ
Are you on BP meds? This combo should not raise BP much if at all. Would be a very dry cycle.

 

[LevButlerov]

I might start low at 200 see how I take it the 300 then 400 I got big on 400

I would start low 200mgs for 3-4 weeks feel it out bro if you feel good 3 weeks in, lets boost to 300-400 @Dozer55

 

[Dozer55]

I would keep test low around 250-300 and run the DHB a bit higher. I think 600 would be solid. DHB is basically EQ
Are you on BP meds? This combo should not raise BP much if at all. Would be a very dry cycle.

No sir I’m not. I never saw anything scary when I took Dhb last time I just got big, lean and strong very veiny. If it doesn’t fuck me up pip wise I’ll definitely be pushing for 500-600 I saw great results at 400

 

[Dozer55]

I would start low 200mgs for 3-4 weeks feel it out bro if you feel good 3 weeks in, lets boost to 300-400 @Dozer55

I almost wanna run that now lol but I think it’d be a good summer time cut. If it doesn’t fuck me up then I’ll bulk with it and npp

 

[LevButlerov]

I almost wanna run that now lol but I think it’d be a good summer time cut. If it doesn’t fuck me up then I’ll bulk with it and npp

You can run it, why not? @Dozer55 you can start into a Dec Jan cut, it would be a sweet lean out, maybe stage time in April

 

[Dozer55]

Maybe I might be switch schedules so more shows might be available. I was planning on running npp with my current cycle unless I swap the primo out and run a long ass cycle. But that would interfere with my “time off” so that’s why I thought about summer time I can maintain my size better and lean out.

But the thought of running that this winter would be fun

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Maybe I might be switch schedules so more shows might be available. I was planning on running npp with my current cycle unless I swap the primo out and run a long ass cycle. But that would interfere with my “time off” so that’s why I thought about summer time I can maintain my size better and lean out.

But the thought of running that this winter would be fun

@Dozer55 you're literally stage ready most of the year man
why dont we cut this and get into the April 2025 show?

 

[Dozer55]

Well I did legs 3 days ago and I’m have the same leg issue I had last year. Its with my left knee/leg this time just not as bad but not great.

I thought maybe the oil traveled down in a weird spot but I swear it’s acting like a slight tear. Gunna blast some peptides whenever I get home

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Well I did legs 3 days ago and I’m have the same leg issue I had last year. Its with my left knee/leg this time just not as bad but not great.

I thought maybe the oil traveled down in a weird spot but I swear it’s acting like a slight tear. Gunna blast some peptides whenever I get home

you going to start bpc157 and tb500 on the leg/knee? @Dozer55

 

[Dozer55]

you going to start bpc157 and tb500 on the leg/knee? @Dozer55

My knee is literally like new again….this is weird maybe the oil moved down and just inflamed the area? Anyways I’m good now. Waiting on my npp to come In still

 

[Eddie Haskell]

My knee is literally like new again….this is weird maybe the oil moved down and just inflamed the area? Anyways I’m good now. Waiting on my npp to come In still

Bpc and tb can do magic, many guys I train get fast results from BPC especially
Rogan talks about it with his injury big time

 

[Dozer55]

I’m backkk sorry been just focusing on eatting and teasing however! We’re posting now.

Week5 of the cycle.

Primo 600mg
Test e 500mg

Looks like I’m making steady progress so I’ll leave the dosages where they’re at till my npp comes in should be this week I hope.

yesterday was a solid back/bi workout I’ll post that separate. Today was chest shoulders and tris.

1. Incline bench 3x8-10. Did 275 for 8 then 9 on the last set
2. Flat machine press 3 x10-12 1x drop set
3.incline bench machine 2x failure last set I dropped the weight in a fucked up drop set till failure again. Found this machine and man what a contraction

4. Close grip bench 2x10-12 did this as a pin press
5. Db military 3x10-12
6. Tricep complex 3x failure
7. Side raise 5x15 only 40sec rest periods here
8. Flys 3x15 I was shot

13 mins on the stair climber and I’m tired.

 

[Dozer55]

Sittin around 230 now finally

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I’m backkk sorry been just focusing on eatting and teasing however! We’re posting now.

Week5 of the cycle.

Primo 600mg
Test e 500mg

Looks like I’m making steady progress so I’ll leave the dosages where they’re at till my npp comes in should be this week I hope.

yesterday was a solid back/bi workout I’ll post that separate. Today was chest shoulders and tris.

1. Incline bench 3x8-10. Did 275 for 8 then 9 on the last set
2. Flat machine press 3 x10-12 1x drop set
3.incline bench machine 2x failure last set I dropped the weight in a fucked up drop set till failure again. Found this machine and man what a contraction

4. Close grip bench 2x10-12 did this as a pin press
5. Db military 3x10-12
6. Tricep complex 3x failure
7. Side raise 5x15 only 40sec rest periods here
8. Flys 3x15 I was shot

13 mins on the stair climber and I’m tired.

cycle is thick man and I like the training you doing incline bench working the upper chest @Dozer55

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Sittin around 230 now finally

@Dozer55 at 230 looking like that why dont you step on stage in 2025? seriously man
you are literally 6 weeks away from a show, dont need to do much
you're RIPPED thick, big and wide, you have perfect genetics and look amazing

 

[RoidRage69]

@Dozer55 at 230 looking like that why dont you step on stage in 2025? seriously man
you are literally 6 weeks away from a show, dont need to do much
you're RIPPED thick, big and wide, you have perfect genetics and look amazing

I'm pretty sure he isn't gonna step onstage until he knows he will destroy the competition. Nothing wrong with that. I am the same way.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I'm pretty sure he isn't gonna step onstage until he knows he will destroy the competition. Nothing wrong with that. I am the same way.

I agree @RoidRage69 but I think @Dozer55 can destroy the competition already imo

 

[stevesmi]

definitely big size on your frame

 

[Quadsweep]

you definitely have a lot of size on your frame
230 lbs is not small at all

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro yo gettin swole cause you trying to challenge me when we meet in prison
i will still shank you, you don't scare me

 

[JasonPriest]

are you going to cut back down from here
seems like you like to bulk up then cut

 

[Austin316]

to be able to move your body weight up and down as you please
that's actually a good strategy to cycle it

 

[sambee38]

pretty soon you will be at 250 and beyond
of getting bigger and bigger

 

[Dozer55]

@Dozer55 at 230 looking like that why dont you step on stage in 2025? seriously man
you are literally 6 weeks away from a show, dont need to do much
you're RIPPED thick, big and wide, you have perfect genetics and look amazing

If I don’t fuck my cut up maybe. I’m gunna keep carbs in longer and cut as needed

 

[Dozer55]

pretty soon you will be at 250 and beyond
of getting bigger and bigger

I hope so I’m embracing the bloat I was hoping to utilize anadrol but man after a few days my BP was through the roof so that’s a no go for that.

 

[BookerTNY]

dozer you are showing how it's done
you proved that steroids really do work

 

[Dozer55]

to be able to move your body weight up and down as you please
that's actually a good strategy to cycle it

I think a lot of guys worry about haveing a super lean body year round which is great if you want to stay healthy and look good.

But you gotta pack the weight on to grow then cut then grow more.

 

[Dozer55]

I'm pretty sure he isn't gonna step onstage until he knows he will destroy the competition. Nothing wrong with that. I am the same way.

Exactly I need to figure out how to properly get my body fat down and get super conditioned. Thennnn I will if I made the top 3-5 in the first show I’d be pretty happy if I won I’d be shocked lol

 

[Dozer55]

dozer you are showing how it's done
you proved that steroids really do work

lol they most certainly work but dude I train like a savage and I eat a lot of food. That’s the key is eatting. Resting. And eatting. The gear just helps a little

 

[Arabian]

you look huge for sure
but i wouldn't mind seeing you shred back down 2-3% body fat

 

[Dozer55]

you look huge for sure
but i wouldn't mind seeing you shred back down 2-3% body fat

If I could get that low I would compete

 

[Eddie Haskell]

If I don’t fuck my cut up maybe. I’m gunna keep carbs in longer and cut as needed

I really think with some trenbolone and winstrol you can easily step on stage so close man @Dozer55

 

[Mobster]

Thick looking back

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Looking nice and wide brother.

 

[Dozer55]

Thick looking back

I got the monster approval yessssss

 

[RoySimpson]

Sittin around 230 now finally

@Dozer55 looking super solid!

 

[25homes]

Solid

 

[Dozer55]

Leg day!! It was so rough I had to cut some things out. The stimulation I get is wild for legs.

1standing calves 4x15-20 1xdrop/fail
2. Seated calves 4x15-20 1xfailure
3. Squats 1x5-8 did 500x8 pain free. The. 315x16
4. Lying leg curls 4x12-15 with parcels
5. Leg extensions 4x15-20 1xdrop set
6. Seated leg curls 3x12-15 1xdrop/fail

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Leg day!! It was so rough I had to cut some things out. The stimulation I get is wild for legs.

1standing calves 4x15-20 1xdrop/fail
2. Seated calves 4x15-20 1xfailure
3. Squats 1x5-8 did 500x8 pain free. The. 315x16
4. Lying leg curls 4x12-15 with parcels
5. Leg extensions 4x15-20 1xdrop set
6. Seated leg curls 3x12-15 1xdrop/fail

big big leg day @Dozer55 curls really pumped
any quad shots man?

 

[Dozer55]

big big leg day @Dozer55 curls really pumped
any quad shots man?

They were so pumped they were just blobs really

 

[Eddie Haskell]

They were so pumped they were just blobs really

Power man

 

[Pigsy]

Need head to USA. Step on stage with the dozer

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Need head to USA. Step on stage with the dozer

@Pigsy if you can convince @Dozer55 to step on stage EVO family big big love
@Dozer55 always walking around in stage shape

 

[Pigsy]

@Pigsy if you can convince @Dozer55 to step on stage EVO family big big love
@Dozer55 always walking around in stage shape

Agree with you on this Dozer not that far off stage ready

 

[Dozer55]

Agree with you on this Dozer not that far off stage ready

I’m trying just trying to figure out when you pull carbs and get down stage ready conditioning. I want that 90’s look where they’re just peeled.

 

[Dozer55]

Today was the last workout of my days off.

Back and bis more of a focus on lats on the heavier side.

1. Lat pull downs medium grip 4x10-12
2. Chest supported row 3x8-10
3.pull over 3x15
4.cable row 4x10-12
5. shrugs 4x15 30 sec rest
6.rear delt 4x12-15. 1xdrop/fail
7.db curl 3x10-12
8. Preacher curl 4x15-20 1xdrop
9.hammer curl 2x fail

Done. Great pump however I noticed that this Ultima primo is really fucking me up at the injection side at first 1.5ml was fine but now it’s acting like Dhb where it’s kinda hard and inflames the site. I think that’s what fucked my leg up. The oil traveled downward and now my front right set going into my bicep is agitated.

Really annoying so maybe I’ll have to break it down into 3 shots. Whenever they swapped oils from clear to a yellow tint it’s not the same it works great but man I’d almost want to go through Dhb welts rather then this shit.


Still getting 5 meals down barely idk why I can’t do 6 it’s a struggle. But I must be getting bigger cause Iv been getting questions on training and nutrition again.

That leg day was brutal tho my calves and hamstrings are fucked up it’s hard to walk. But that’s the goal have a brutal leg day to where it takes a week to recover from

 

[Dozer55]

@Pigsy if you can convince @Dozer55 to step on stage EVO family big big love
@Dozer55 always walking around in stage shape

Just trying to figure out the cutting scene better and to come in conditioned like the 90s bodybuilders did

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Just trying to figure out the cutting scene better and to come in conditioned like the 90s bodybuilders did

@Dozer55 cutting is easy, cut carbs, do more cardio and volume up the training (less weight more reps) and come to us we'll prep you for the show bro

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Today was the last workout of my days off.

Back and bis more of a focus on lats on the heavier side.

1. Lat pull downs medium grip 4x10-12
2. Chest supported row 3x8-10
3.pull over 3x15
4.cable row 4x10-12
5. shrugs 4x15 30 sec rest
6.rear delt 4x12-15. 1xdrop/fail
7.db curl 3x10-12
8. Preacher curl 4x15-20 1xdrop
9.hammer curl 2x fail

Done. Great pump however I noticed that this Ultima primo is really fucking me up at the injection side at first 1.5ml was fine but now it’s acting like Dhb where it’s kinda hard and inflames the site. I think that’s what fucked my leg up. The oil traveled downward and now my front right set going into my bicep is agitated.

Really annoying so maybe I’ll have to break it down into 3 shots. Whenever they swapped oils from clear to a yellow tint it’s not the same it works great but man I’d almost want to go through Dhb welts rather then this shit.


Still getting 5 meals down barely idk why I can’t do 6 it’s a struggle. But I must be getting bigger cause Iv been getting questions on training and nutrition again.

That leg day was brutal tho my calves and hamstrings are fucked up it’s hard to walk. But that’s the goal have a brutal leg day to where it takes a week to recover from

where did you inject the primobolan? into the quad
and how much at once?

to be fair all primo has high PIP for me, and Bayer pharma grade the worst lol @Dozer55

you can do 5 meals why 6? just stay with 5 and add shakes

big day today but will need to volume up to cut imo

 

[Dozer55]

where did you inject the primobolan? into the quad
and how much at once?

to be fair all primo has high PIP for me, and Bayer pharma grade the worst lol @Dozer55

you can do 5 meals why 6? just stay with 5 and add shakes

big day today but will need to volume up to cut imo

I did my quad and shoulders and ass. But maybe 1.5 is too much in one area now I’m gunna go to just 1ml for now on

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

I did my quad and shoulders and ass. But maybe 1.5 is too much in one area now I’m gunna go to just 1ml for now on

I dont suggest shooting the quads bro
glutes left right
shoulders delts left right
bis left right
lats left right
triceps left right
those are the best to pin
quad or leg pins can leave holes and infections bro , look at big ramy thats what happend to his quad

 

[RoidRage69]

The lats have a huge area to inject.

 

[Dozer55]

The lats have a huge area to inject.

Lats are nice dman it’s still virgin it hurts like a mother fucker still

 

[RoidRage69]

Lats are nice dman it’s still virgin it hurts like a mother fucker still

I always like to inject the lats an hour before going to the gym to train back. This way the blood gets moving in the area injected.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Lats are nice dman it’s still virgin it hurts like a mother fucker still

Depends on the dose
1/4th ml each late no issues

 

[Dozer55]

I dont suggest shooting the quads bro
glutes left right
shoulders delts left right
bis left right
lats left right
triceps left right
those are the best to pin
quad or leg pins can leave holes and infections bro , look at big ramy thats what happend to his quad

Never had an issue till the primo at 1,5 a shot idk what the deal is test is totally fine but it does not like the ultima

I always like to inject the lats an hour before going to the gym to train back. This way the blood gets moving in the area injected.

thats always a bad time for me. It moves the oil and makes it worse lol

 

[Dozer55]

My npp just landed! Gunna start jackin that up

 

[RoidRage69]

Never had an issue till the primo at 1,5 a shot idk what the deal is test is totally fine but it does not like the ultima

thats always a bad time for me. It moves the oil and makes it worse lol

Your DOMs from the muscle breakdown should mask the PIP.

 

[Dozer55]

Your DOMs from the muscle breakdown should mask the PIP.

Yeah I thought that too but it really doesn’t. Shoulders and ass yeah but lats it doesn’t help. Legs were never an issue but whatever oil Ultima is using the the primo does not agree I have one clear left from them which I know was good then I have 4 clear from para pharma so should be good as well

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

My npp just landed! Gunna start jackin that up

touchdown pic bro post it @Dozer55

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Never had an issue till the primo at 1,5 a shot idk what the deal is test is totally fine but it does not like the ultima

thats always a bad time for me. It moves the oil and makes it worse lol

either way with quads its a matter of time until you have issues, thats what I mean bro dont pin the quads lol @Dozer55

 

[Dozer55]

I’m alive. And a little fucked up from work. Been back a few days just letting my body recover and trying to get back to eatting real meals again.

Body weight fasted is 230 so not bad for after work. Might hit the gym tomorrow got some elbow sleeves I’m itching to test out on my push days

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I’m alive. And a little fucked up from work. Been back a few days just letting my body recover and trying to get back to eatting real meals again.

Body weight fasted is 230 so not bad for after work. Might hit the gym tomorrow got some elbow sleeves I’m itching to test out on my push days

Welcome back @Dozer55 we missed you in the EVO family

Recovery is key, let’s eat and train again, how are your thick legs doing?

My npp just landed! Gunna start jackin that up

Also please post touchdown pics , EVO family has been waiting for your NPP pics

 

[Dozer55]

Welcome back @Dozer55 we missed you in the EVO family

Recovery is key, let’s eat and train again, how are your thick legs doing?



Also please post touchdown pics , EVO family has been waiting for your NPP pics

Oh man I totally forgot I’ll dig them out today and take pics I need to order more test too

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Oh man I totally forgot I’ll dig them out today and take pics I need to order more test too

Awesome throw them up

 

[Dozer55]

Went to the gym the past couple days and this is what I did.

Chest/shoulders tris

1.barbell incline 4x8-10did 295 for 10 last 2 sets

2.flat machine press 4x10-12 1xfailure
3. Incline machine 2xfail
4. Close grip 2x8-10
5. Db military 3x10-12
6. Side raise 5x15
7. Push downs 4 x10-12
8. Flys 5x15


Today I did back/bis
1. Pull-downs 4x10-12
2. Deadlifts I’m still kinda sore from work and tried conventional style. 405x5 solid but 500 was garbage so either sumo for now on or rdl’s

3. Machine rows 4x8-10 with a drop set on the last set
4. Pull overs 3x10-12
5. Cable pull downs (more of a curl)
4x8-10
6. Preacher curls 4x20
7. Hammer curls 2x failure and I was done

Weight is staying around 230 fasted and 235 at the end of the days so that’s good.

It’s week 9 of the cycle

Test e 500mg
NPP 375mg
Primo600mg

I’ll bump the npp up in another week everything is goin solid gunna check the no tomrrow morning I feel like it’s a little high but I’m also getting over a cold and was taking NyQuil so won’t be shocked but I think after this cycle I’m gunna give my body a good break

 

[Dozer55]

Back home and resting.

We’re on week12 of the cycle everything is goin good not crazy gains but steady. I’m weighing around 228 fasted and AB’s are coming back a little.

Cycle
Test e 500mg
Primo 600mg
Npp 375mg will be goin up to 450 or just stay with the cycle with 375 and extend the cycle

Arowmasin 12.5eod
Proviron 25mg ed
Nolvadex 10mg eod
Caber .50mg a week

After this cycle I’m gunna take a break and let my body recover if I do a late cut I might run Dhb at 300-400 and test at trt dose or 375 then maybe just maybe use Tren in the next bulk

 

[RoidRage69]

Is your strength up really good on that cycle? That's really close to what I have planned.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Went to the gym the past couple days and this is what I did.

Chest/shoulders tris

1.barbell incline 4x8-10did 295 for 10 last 2 sets

2.flat machine press 4x10-12 1xfailure
3. Incline machine 2xfail
4. Close grip 2x8-10
5. Db military 3x10-12
6. Side raise 5x15
7. Push downs 4 x10-12
8. Flys 5x15


Today I did back/bis
1. Pull-downs 4x10-12
2. Deadlifts I’m still kinda sore from work and tried conventional style. 405x5 solid but 500 was garbage so either sumo for now on or rdl’s

3. Machine rows 4x8-10 with a drop set on the last set
4. Pull overs 3x10-12
5. Cable pull downs (more of a curl)
4x8-10
6. Preacher curls 4x20
7. Hammer curls 2x failure and I was done

Weight is staying around 230 fasted and 235 at the end of the days so that’s good.

It’s week 9 of the cycle

Test e 500mg
NPP 375mg
Primo600mg

I’ll bump the npp up in another week everything is goin solid gunna check the no tomrrow morning I feel like it’s a little high but I’m also getting over a cold and was taking NyQuil so won’t be shocked but I think after this cycle I’m gunna give my body a good break

welcome back to the EVO family bro we missed you
you gotta not train when you got a gold bro @Dozer55
some good lifting

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Back home and resting.

We’re on week12 of the cycle everything is goin good not crazy gains but steady. I’m weighing around 228 fasted and AB’s are coming back a little.

Cycle
Test e 500mg
Primo 600mg
Npp 375mg will be goin up to 450 or just stay with the cycle with 375 and extend the cycle

Arowmasin 12.5eod
Proviron 25mg ed
Nolvadex 10mg eod
Caber .50mg a week

After this cycle I’m gunna take a break and let my body recover if I do a late cut I might run Dhb at 300-400 and test at trt dose or 375 then maybe just maybe use Tren in the next bulk

i think its the higher doses you using without organ liver support bro @Dozer55 thats the big issue
and with 600mgs of primo and aromasin id love to see your estrogen levels might be very low
really hard to say as havent seen you for a while bro

 

[stevesmi]

I remember you using Premo from before good idea to take a break from tren as long as possible

 

[Dozer55]

Yeah it’s up quite a bit incline barbell bench (not smith machine) went from 275lbs for 8-10 to 315 for 6 and I did 275 for 2 sets before that

 

[Dozer55]

i think its the higher doses you using without organ liver support bro @Dozer55 thats the big issue
and with 600mgs of primo and aromasin id love to see your estrogen levels might be very low
really hard to say as havent seen you for a while bro

I just genuinely want to take a break is all a little long then 12 weeks

 

[Dozer55]

I remember you using Premo from before good idea to take a break from tren as long as possible

Yeah a break from that is a must especially if you wanna live longer

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

I just genuinely want to take a break is all a little long then 12 weeks

fair bro would be good if you reset your goals to the stage again imo

 

[Mobster]

Good work on the deadlift

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Love the sessions brother. Sounds like everything is going smooth from training to diet, to cycle. Great news.

 

[Quadsweep]

Nice to see you back as well. Are you going to keep this log going or start a fresh one for the new year?

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro they blamed me for you leaving lol. they said you left cause you were scared of me.

i don't blame you for chickening out on our fight. that a smart choice cuz nobody wants to be shanked through the neck.

 

[JasonPriest]

A Primo in testosterone is a pretty good stack. And then adding in some neander alone, that's a good idea for the joints.

 

[Wootoom]

Proviron is a really good choice.

And I like that you're doing 25 mg a day.

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

Good to have you back you sure know how to train hard. Any updates, maybe you can get some meal pictures.

 

[2Thick]

Make sure you get some new pictures of what you look like now.

You said you were sick last time you updated in late, December. How did that work out?

 

[e2]

A nice update, man. I like that your mixing in the caber and proviron.

that will help the synergy of the cycle.

 

[Ulter]

12 weeks of the cycle wow. we missed out on a lot of updates, like 5 weeks of updates.

 

[chesty]

aromasin, proviron, nolvadex and caber.

That's a nice list of things to use on cycle, but are you using any support supplements?

 

[ROIDDERS]

228 lbs. You're still pretty big.

A shame that you lost out on your abs, but they'll come back once you come off the cycle. I think

 

[ceo]

bros you gonna hit trt after cycle or you gonna pct?

i cant remember if you already on trt or not.

 

[Dozer55]

fair bro would be good if you reset your goals to the stage again imo

I think so. I’m thinking about Dhb this summer and tren in the winter for a bulk so I don’t cramp so damn bad I get fuckin huge from Tren when I do bulk.

I really just want to use two compounds per cycle cause 3 for me is too much especially when I want to up the dosage and it’s like where the fuck am I going to pin all this you know?

 

[Dozer55]

bros you gonna hit trt after cycle or you gonna pct?

i cant remember if you already on trt or not.

Oh no always straight to trt dose I don’t pct anymore I just want to reset, get my goals back in line and hammer down once everything mainly my no is in the super healthily range I’ll start a cut. Maybe some Dhb and test simple only 2 compounds and a little Anavar at the end to finish or maybe I’ll try Winnie this time

 

[Dozer55]

228 lbs. You're still pretty big.

A shame that you lost out on your abs, but they'll come back once you come off the cycle. I think

Actually they’re back man I see them so I can keep pushing my food but I’ll post a pic of the body tomorrow morning. Tomorrow is back and bis first workout of being home it’s either gunna go really good or really bad haha

 

[Dozer55]

bro they blamed me for you leaving lol. they said you left cause you were scared of me.

i don't blame you for chickening out on our fight. that a smart choice cuz nobody wants to be shanked through the neck.

Monster… I would just shoot you and be done with it

 

[Dozer55]

aromasin, proviron, nolvadex and caber.

That's a nice list of things to use on cycle, but are you using any support supplements?

I’m using my renal reset for my kidneys and QRF for my liver. I do gotta get alllll of my other vitamins tho I’ll prolly go through 10x health everyone here should look up Gary brecas shit and take it

 

[Dozer55]

A nice update, man. I like that your mixing in the caber and proviron.

that will help the synergy of the cycle.

Seems like anymore I don’t need caber cause I ramp up my dosages so o do t get the side like I use too but I take it just incase cause if I slack I’m fighting it. Also caber is just great for sex

 

[Dozer55]

Good to have you back you sure know how to train hard. Any updates, maybe you can get some meal pictures.

I’ll post a few up tomrrow Its hard for me to get back into eatting and shit after work so I’ll post a body pic and a few food. Still hovering around 228 fasted today with more ab outlines so 4-5 more weeks I’m gunna run it till I’m out of primo and npp then take a nice long cruise 12+ weeks then if I’m all good I’ll start a cut with test, Dhb, maybe some Winnie. I’d look huge and ripped I’ll leave carbs in longer I peaked too eary and fucked it all up