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Approved Log First Cycle Sustanon 250 Log

LevButlerov said:
how long have you been on PCT total weeks? and tell me again your whole schedule during PCT @Simoneme
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I started pct around beginning of June
My PCT included 50 mg clomid, 40 nolva,HC GEN and N2GUARD
lately, 2 weeks later, I reduced Clomid to 25
I almost followed the "perfect pct" dosing clomid to my mood feeling actually.

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Simoneme said:
I started pct around beginning of June
My PCT included 50 mg clomid, 40 nolva,HC GEN and N2GUARD
lately, 2 weeks later, I reduced Clomid to 25
I almost followed the "perfect pct" dosing clomid to my mood feeling actually.

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@Simoneme you're on week 8 now brother? and what week bloods on?
 
Simoneme said:
At this point, since I wont do any gear till january, I will test again in november I believe.
Anyhow, even if low, its in the range (according to the results).
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The results are not low or high, LH and FSH if not recovered will mess up your hormones for a long time, you need to retest. @Simoneme
 
Simoneme said:
I will be on holiday in the usa from 14.
I cant retest before september.
Do I have to start again with clomid / nolva protocol then?
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You can test in USA even cheaper. @Simoneme
IF you didn't recover we need to do multiple things.
 
LevButlerov said:
You can test in USA even cheaper. @Simoneme
IF you didn't recover we need to do multiple things.
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I tested 1 month after pct and I got my value. This was one week ago.
which is the purpose of testing again one week later?
You want me to check if LH / FSH moved in one week?
If so, I won't believe they will change drastically...
anyhow, I can do this.
I will test only for this values then and I will come back with the results.
But consider that on 14/08 I will leave for 2 weeks, with no access to PCT / Medicines.
That's the reason why I said I would have test in semptember.
 
Simoneme said:
I tested 1 month after pct and I got my value. This was one week ago.
which is the purpose of testing again one week later?
You want me to check if LH / FSH moved in one week?
If so, I won't believe they will change drastically...
anyhow, I can do this.
I will test only for this values then and I will come back with the results.
But consider that on 14/08 I will leave for 2 weeks, with no access to PCT / Medicines.
That's the reason why I said I would have test in semptember.
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In 2 weeks a lot can change. And the issue is not your Test levels but your LH/FSH. @Simoneme
You need to retest before you go, test on 10th-12th range and go, you can post the bloods when you on the trip.
VERY IMPORTANT! you retest now.
 
Npcclassicphysique champ said:
yea your lh fsh is low and your estrogen is high brother @Simoneme
you DID NOT recover from PCT, not even close
you will crash big time after if you dont get on TRT
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I always had this value of lh / fsh even before the cycle, with quite high e2. Always been sensible to e2, always been weaker than other people, especially in sports. So I guess I'm close to my baseline now. Anyhow, lifting and strenght are ok now, Im hitting pr's at the gym, I don't feel weak at all.
I will test again in october and see where I am, I will take some ai this days to tame a bit.
I don't want to be on trt, I'm 37 yo, I will try to walk on my own for now.
 
Simoneme said:
I always had this value of lh / fsh even before the cycle, with quite high e2. Always been sensible to e2, always been weaker than other people, especially in sports. So I guess I'm close to my baseline now. Anyhow, lifting and strenght are ok now, Im hitting pr's at the gym, I don't feel weak at all.
I will test again in october and see where I am, I will take some ai this days to tame a bit.
I don't want to be on trt, I'm 37 yo, I will try to walk on my own for now.
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@Simoneme
I review this
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-cycle-sustanon-250-log.103662/post-1805137
You have the bloods BEFORE you started this cycle to back this up?
And @Npcclassicphysique champ is correct, from what you posted, you haven't recovered.
 
LevButlerov said:
@Simoneme
I review this
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-cycle-sustanon-250-log.103662/post-1805137
You have the bloods BEFORE you started this cycle to back this up?
And @Npcclassicphysique champ is correct, from what you posted, you haven't recovered.
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This was in november.
1 Month after a little lgd cycle.
Then quitted all till 20th of january and started with sustanon
Assuming I didnt recovered, I wont touch anything till 2026 for sure since I m feeling optimal now. Should I do anyhing or just wait and re test in winter?
 

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Simoneme said:
This was in november.
1 Month after a little lgd cycle.
Then quitted all till 20th of january and started with sustanon
Assuming I didnt recovered, I wont touch anything till 2026 for sure since I m feeling optimal now. Should I do anyhing or just wait and re test in winter?
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Share the actual bloods with ranges for all before the LGD cycle.
If you started LGD, lgd will suppress you big time, its like steroids, I month after you would be crashed out. @Simoneme
 
Simoneme said:
I can't find them, I did some osta / lgd in the past but I lost the exhams unfortunately.
I also believe most of the stuff was bunk
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It's likely it was spiked with steroids, sarms spiked with steroids is normal.
You likely NEVER recovered even 1 time. @Simoneme
 
Simoneme said:
Hi all,
back from holiday, I did as suggested 1 month of Nolva + TEST BOOSTER
time to test again I belive, maybe tomorrow morning.
Or should I wait more?
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Lets do a blood test now :D @Simoneme
 
Simoneme said:
And how can I have good T levels and low lh / fsh? Anyhow I ll test again in one month, I will cycle next year so no stress to me
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If test is back in range after PCT but LH and FSH are still low it usually means your nuts are making just enough testosterone without much pituitary drive. Some guys recover slower on the signaling side even if serum T looks fine, especially after longer or heavier cycles. It can stay that way for a while but still hold steady T if the leydig cells are efficient. Over time LH and FSH may creep back up, or they may sit low but as long as T and health markers are good it’s not necessarily a problem unless fertility is a goal.

I think you training and your diet are off that's the problem, and your supplement intake. You haven't been sharing. @Simoneme
Simoneme said:
@LevButlerov Do I have to implement HCG? if yes, how cycle this and do I need other supplements / medicine ?
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I think we need to see a lot more training diet supps etc.
 
LevButlerov said:
If test is back in range after PCT but LH and FSH are still low it usually means your nuts are making just enough testosterone without much pituitary drive. Some guys recover slower on the signaling side even if serum T looks fine, especially after longer or heavier cycles. It can stay that way for a while but still hold steady T if the leydig cells are efficient. Over time LH and FSH may creep back up, or they may sit low but as long as T and health markers are good it’s not necessarily a problem unless fertility is a goal.

I think you training and your diet are off that's the problem, and your supplement intake. You haven't been sharing. @Simoneme

I think we need to see a lot more training diet supps etc.
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At the moment I'm deloading a bit due to knee and back pain.
Diet is on point as usual, tending to reduce carbs a little in deload.
Im not thaking anything except for testo booster.
Most probably next season I will quit crossfit and start gym 3 days + 2 days of olympic lift / calystenic stuff. Im crashing myself on crossfit...
Anyhow, skipping back to blood tests results, I dont plan any kids... so are my value ok for another cycle next year or do you have any suggestion?
 
Simoneme said:
At the moment I'm deloading a bit due to knee and back pain.
Diet is on point as usual, tending to reduce carbs a little in deload.
Im not thaking anything except for testo booster.
Most probably next season I will quit crossfit and start gym 3 days + 2 days of olympic lift / calystenic stuff. Im crashing myself on crossfit...
Anyhow, skipping back to blood tests results, I dont plan any kids... so are my value ok for another cycle next year or do you have any suggestion?
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if kids arent in the plan then self trt can make sense, a lot of guys just cruise and never come off, just depends if you want to commit long term since natural recovery gets harder every run. your diet sounds solid, carbs lower on deload makes sense and good you’re listening to knees and back, crossfit beats people up fast so moving to gym plus some oly lifts and calisthenics will probably keep you fresher and still strong. as for bloods, main thing is keep e2 in range and check liver and lipids, if those are fine then another cycle next year is no issue, just don’t push doses for no reason, quality training with steady test base will carry you a long way. :D
 
LevButlerov said:
if kids arent in the plan then self trt can make sense, a lot of guys just cruise and never come off, just depends if you want to commit long term since natural recovery gets harder every run. your diet sounds solid, carbs lower on deload makes sense and good you’re listening to knees and back, crossfit beats people up fast so moving to gym plus some oly lifts and calisthenics will probably keep you fresher and still strong. as for bloods, main thing is keep e2 in range and check liver and lipids, if those are fine then another cycle next year is no issue, just don’t push doses for no reason, quality training with steady test base will carry you a long way. :D
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In waiting for exhams results dir blood donor so I Will post the as well
Self trt wont be a option, I Will manager on/off like did now, and a new log soon next year
 
Simoneme said:
In waiting for exhams results dir blood donor so I Will post the as well
Self trt wont be a option, I Will manager on/off like did now, and a new log soon next year
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Why no self TRT what's the issue? you won't have kids right? @Simoneme
 
LevButlerov said:
Why no self TRT what's the issue? you won't have kids right? @Simoneme
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No I won't. The point is that, I don't want to pin every week and so on; I usually go on holyday 2 / 3 times per year and it's difficult to carry all the stuff plus as long as I'm producing good T level on my own I don't feel the need of cruising / blasting... if it makes sense.
Anyhow I will look into that just for personal curiosity, I don't know much about self trt, medication needed and bloods in this phase.
Do you have any useful link for me?
 
Simoneme said:
No I won't. The point is that, I don't want to pin every week and so on; I usually go on holyday 2 / 3 times per year and it's difficult to carry all the stuff plus as long as I'm producing good T level on my own I don't feel the need of cruising / blasting... if it makes sense.
Anyhow I will look into that just for personal curiosity, I don't know much about self trt, medication needed and bloods in this phase.
Do you have any useful link for me?
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If you ever decide to go the trt route just look at sustanon since you can pin it once a month which makes holidays easier instead of carrying stuff around. That way you’re not messing with constant shots and you can still keep levels decent while you’re away. :D
 
LevButlerov said:
If you ever decide to go the trt route just look at sustanon since you can pin it once a month which makes holidays easier instead of carrying stuff around. That way you’re not messing with constant shots and you can still keep levels decent while you’re away. :D
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How much is the dose? 150mg x month? Anyhow as long as I can do it on my Own I will go on this way. For the near future I will for sure give this a try, thanks a lot
 
Simoneme said:
How much is the dose? 150mg x month? Anyhow as long as I can do it on my Own I will go on this way. For the near future I will for sure give this a try, thanks a lot
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the travelling dose is 250mgs/month 1 pin sustanon, but normal week to week 150mgs testosterone enan or cyp @Simoneme
 
I would like to share my consideration at the end of this first journey.
First of all, gears are a two-edged sword: from one side you feel you can work out heavier, better, faster, harder. From the other side, it's quite easy to overtrain and get an injury (that's what happened to me). For the next cycle, FOR SURE I will enjoy the moment but I won't push so hard anymore, knowing the fact that I could injury again. On top of th is, I can say that if you do gears, you won't for sure get stronger that all the natural guys in the gym, at least in my case. I tend to have poor genetic, and who says that geared people are stronger than natural people is doing wrong. You are stronger if you are stronger, that's it. Gears help to shape, helps to recovery, and many other stuff, but genetic first of all.

That being said, already planning next cycle for january which will include Test / Deca

I will post again here next exhams and full panel before then.

Cheers all.
 
Simoneme said:
I would like to share my consideration at the end of this first journey.
First of all, gears are a two-edged sword: from one side you feel you can work out heavier, better, faster, harder. From the other side, it's quite easy to overtrain and get an injury (that's what happened to me). For the next cycle, FOR SURE I will enjoy the moment but I won't push so hard anymore, knowing the fact that I could injury again. On top of th is, I can say that if you do gears, you won't for sure get stronger that all the natural guys in the gym, at least in my case. I tend to have poor genetic, and who says that geared people are stronger than natural people is doing wrong. You are stronger if you are stronger, that's it. Gears help to shape, helps to recovery, and many other stuff, but genetic first of all.

That being said, already planning next cycle for january which will include Test / Deca

I will post again here next exhams and full panel before then.

Cheers all.
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good reflection, you nailed it on gear being a tool not a magic fix. genetics set the ceiling, the compounds just help you recover and hold size, but pushing past what your joints or tendons can handle is where injuries come in. smart call to pull back a touch next time and keep the longevity in mind. test and deca for january sounds like a solid base cycle, looking forward to seeing your bloods and how you line it up. :D
Though I think you can start your self TRT in October easy! @Simoneme
 
LevButlerov said:
good reflection, you nailed it on gear being a tool not a magic fix. genetics set the ceiling, the compounds just help you recover and hold size, but pushing past what your joints or tendons can handle is where injuries come in. smart call to pull back a touch next time and keep the longevity in mind. test and deca for january sounds like a solid base cycle, looking forward to seeing your bloods and how you line it up. :D
Though I think you can start your self TRT in October easy! @Simoneme
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Thanks bro. I have to check in my medicine closet if I still have some SUS available, 2/ 3 months of self trt could be an option. Do I have to test again in January for any specific reason if I will start test / deca after trt? I mean, now I belive my bloods are quite ok; I can control E2 also on TRT I know my sensitiveness to estrogens so I can tame it; In my mind, I would have test in the middle of the cycle and at the end, when I will decide to PCT or TRT again. thanks again Bro
 
Simoneme said:
I would like to share my consideration at the end of this first journey.
First of all, gears are a two-edged sword: from one side you feel you can work out heavier, better, faster, harder. From the other side, it's quite easy to overtrain and get an injury (that's what happened to me). For the next cycle, FOR SURE I will enjoy the moment but I won't push so hard anymore, knowing the fact that I could injury again. On top of th is, I can say that if you do gears, you won't for sure get stronger that all the natural guys in the gym, at least in my case. I tend to have poor genetic, and who says that geared people are stronger than natural people is doing wrong. You are stronger if you are stronger, that's it. Gears help to shape, helps to recovery, and many other stuff, but genetic first of all.

That being said, already planning next cycle for january which will include Test / Deca

I will post again here next exhams and full panel before then.

Cheers all.
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this is correct. i blew out my shoulder and made life tough on my spine going so heavy on tren. we are influenced by a lot of the wrong people who tell us to push through it and ignore injuries. at some point though it becomes a mess like in my case where i was waking up at night with half my body numb @Simoneme
 
Simoneme said:
I would like to share my consideration at the end of this first journey.
First of all, gears are a two-edged sword: from one side you feel you can work out heavier, better, faster, harder. From the other side, it's quite easy to overtrain and get an injury (that's what happened to me). For the next cycle, FOR SURE I will enjoy the moment but I won't push so hard anymore, knowing the fact that I could injury again. On top of th is, I can say that if you do gears, you won't for sure get stronger that all the natural guys in the gym, at least in my case. I tend to have poor genetic, and who says that geared people are stronger than natural people is doing wrong. You are stronger if you are stronger, that's it. Gears help to shape, helps to recovery, and many other stuff, but genetic first of all.

That being said, already planning next cycle for january which will include Test / Deca

I will post again here next exhams and full panel before then.

Cheers all.
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@simonme bro how about doing some tren with the deca? That would help you blend into a real man. That's what we want to see.
 
BodyMonster34 said:
@simonme bro how about doing some tren with the deca? That would help you blend into a real man. That's what we want to see.
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Eheh bro. Not sure im ready for that street shark look yellowed paper thin skin pipeline calf and quad veins. We have a guy in pur gym which is really like that and well, he can do set of 40 reps with 80/100 kg but hes totally jacked out :)
 
Simoneme said:
I would like to share my consideration at the end of this first journey.
First of all, gears are a two-edged sword: from one side you feel you can work out heavier, better, faster, harder. From the other side, it's quite easy to overtrain and get an injury (that's what happened to me). For the next cycle, FOR SURE I will enjoy the moment but I won't push so hard anymore, knowing the fact that I could injury again. On top of th is, I can say that if you do gears, you won't for sure get stronger that all the natural guys in the gym, at least in my case. I tend to have poor genetic, and who says that geared people are stronger than natural people is doing wrong. You are stronger if you are stronger, that's it. Gears help to shape, helps to recovery, and many other stuff, but genetic first of all.

That being said, already planning next cycle for january which will include Test / Deca

I will post again here next exhams and full panel before then.

Cheers all.
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I'm dealing with something similar right now, which I detail in my log. @Simoneme Definitely gotta watch out. Steroids will most definitely increase your chance of injuries.
 
2Thick said:
I'm dealing with something similar right now, which I detail in my log. @Simoneme Definitely gotta watch out. Steroids will most definitely increase your chance of injuries.
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you are talking to a guy which does crossfit / weightlifting and daily submaximal lift sets with an arguable tecnique... can you feel my knees / elbows/ shoulders / hernial bro? :D Anyhow, with deca specially, I will pay much attention since I heard that It helps join relief and I don't want to exagerate while feeling good.
 
Simoneme said:
you are talking to a guy which does crossfit / weightlifting and daily submaximal lift sets with an arguable tecnique... can you feel my knees / elbows/ shoulders / hernial bro? :D Anyhow, with deca specially, I will pay much attention since I heard that It helps join relief and I don't want to exagerate while feeling good.
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yes it is a balance for sure
 
Simoneme said:
I would like to share my consideration at the end of this first journey.
First of all, gears are a two-edged sword: from one side you feel you can work out heavier, better, faster, harder. From the other side, it's quite easy to overtrain and get an injury (that's what happened to me). For the next cycle, FOR SURE I will enjoy the moment but I won't push so hard anymore, knowing the fact that I could injury again. On top of th is, I can say that if you do gears, you won't for sure get stronger that all the natural guys in the gym, at least in my case. I tend to have poor genetic, and who says that geared people are stronger than natural people is doing wrong. You are stronger if you are stronger, that's it. Gears help to shape, helps to recovery, and many other stuff, but genetic first of all.

That being said, already planning next cycle for january which will include Test / Deca

I will post again here next exhams and full panel before then.

Cheers all.
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@Simoneme test and deca are on point. love using those. i think you will enjoy them in january
 
Simoneme said:
I would like to share my consideration at the end of this first journey.
First of all, gears are a two-edged sword: from one side you feel you can work out heavier, better, faster, harder. From the other side, it's quite easy to overtrain and get an injury (that's what happened to me). For the next cycle, FOR SURE I will enjoy the moment but I won't push so hard anymore, knowing the fact that I could injury again. On top of th is, I can say that if you do gears, you won't for sure get stronger that all the natural guys in the gym, at least in my case. I tend to have poor genetic, and who says that geared people are stronger than natural people is doing wrong. You are stronger if you are stronger, that's it. Gears help to shape, helps to recovery, and many other stuff, but genetic first of all.

That being said, already planning next cycle for january which will include Test / Deca

I will post again here next exhams and full panel before then.

Cheers all.
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bros its good you planning next cycle a few months in advance. that smart that you gonna give it some time and not push. over training a real thing as we get older @Simoneme
 
Simoneme said:
I would like to share my consideration at the end of this first journey.
First of all, gears are a two-edged sword: from one side you feel you can work out heavier, better, faster, harder. From the other side, it's quite easy to overtrain and get an injury (that's what happened to me). For the next cycle, FOR SURE I will enjoy the moment but I won't push so hard anymore, knowing the fact that I could injury again. On top of th is, I can say that if you do gears, you won't for sure get stronger that all the natural guys in the gym, at least in my case. I tend to have poor genetic, and who says that geared people are stronger than natural people is doing wrong. You are stronger if you are stronger, that's it. Gears help to shape, helps to recovery, and many other stuff, but genetic first of all.

That being said, already planning next cycle for january which will include Test / Deca

I will post again here next exhams and full panel before then.

Cheers all.
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this is looking good @Simoneme i like the strategy you are doing. its a good strategy to take care of your body so it lasts long term
 
Simoneme said:
Thanks bro. I have to check in my medicine closet if I still have some SUS available, 2/ 3 months of self trt could be an option. Do I have to test again in January for any specific reason if I will start test / deca after trt? I mean, now I belive my bloods are quite ok; I can control E2 also on TRT I know my sensitiveness to estrogens so I can tame it; In my mind, I would have test in the middle of the cycle and at the end, when I will decide to PCT or TRT again. thanks again Bro
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If you’ve already got sustanon on hand then running a proper trt cruise before jumping into test and deca would be a smart move. It’ll stabilize hormones, keep e2 manageable, and you’ll feel a lot better going into the heavier cycle. Bloods in January are worth it, even mid run, so you know where your test, e2, lipids and hematocrit sit before layering more on. Way easier to control things when you’ve got a baseline and you’ll set yourself up for a smoother blast and better pct or transition back into trt later. @Simoneme
 
Simoneme said:
Eheh bro. Not sure im ready for that street shark look yellowed paper thin skin pipeline calf and quad veins. We have a guy in pur gym which is really like that and well, he can do set of 40 reps with 80/100 kg but hes totally jacked out :)
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bro what?
 
Simoneme said:
I would like to share my consideration at the end of this first journey.
First of all, gears are a two-edged sword: from one side you feel you can work out heavier, better, faster, harder. From the other side, it's quite easy to overtrain and get an injury (that's what happened to me). For the next cycle, FOR SURE I will enjoy the moment but I won't push so hard anymore, knowing the fact that I could injury again. On top of th is, I can say that if you do gears, you won't for sure get stronger that all the natural guys in the gym, at least in my case. I tend to have poor genetic, and who says that geared people are stronger than natural people is doing wrong. You are stronger if you are stronger, that's it. Gears help to shape, helps to recovery, and many other stuff, but genetic first of all.

That being said, already planning next cycle for january which will include Test / Deca

I will post again here next exhams and full panel before then.

Cheers all.
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@Simoneme you’re right brother. Looks like it went and can’t wait to see how the next one goes.
 
Simoneme said:
I would like to share my consideration at the end of this first journey.
First of all, gears are a two-edged sword: from one side you feel you can work out heavier, better, faster, harder. From the other side, it's quite easy to overtrain and get an injury (that's what happened to me). For the next cycle, FOR SURE I will enjoy the moment but I won't push so hard anymore, knowing the fact that I could injury again. On top of th is, I can say that if you do gears, you won't for sure get stronger that all the natural guys in the gym, at least in my case. I tend to have poor genetic, and who says that geared people are stronger than natural people is doing wrong. You are stronger if you are stronger, that's it. Gears help to shape, helps to recovery, and many other stuff, but genetic first of all.

That being said, already planning next cycle for january which will include Test / Deca

I will post again here next exhams and full panel before then.

Cheers all.
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You could be right and wrong, ive been a strong person when nautral, with the help of cyles and certain compounds ive blown my natural lifts out of the water, gear helped me hit personal bests in many lifts, im way stronger than ive ever been, i dont agree with that part everything else i can see that being true
 
LevButlerov said:
If you’ve already got sustanon on hand then running a proper trt cruise before jumping into test and deca would be a smart move. It’ll stabilize hormones, keep e2 manageable, and you’ll feel a lot better going into the heavier cycle. Bloods in January are worth it, even mid run, so you know where your test, e2, lipids and hematocrit sit before layering more on. Way easier to control things when you’ve got a baseline and you’ll set yourself up for a smoother blast and better pct or transition back into trt later. @Simoneme
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So
checked my closed and what I have is the essential for next run:
- 2 x testo enantate
-1 nandrolone deca
-2 boldenone
-proviron
- clomid / nolva / ai / carda / osta

SO: what could I do is using the enanthate for TRT (150 x week 1 pin till January), in the meanwhile order other enanthate for the cycle + 1 bottle of sus for montlhly holiday pin ( 2 weeks on holyday in december).

Later I will open a new log for winter cycle, where I will discuss dosage for the next spin

I attach also last week panel as potential blood donor ( I have been suspended due to low emoglobine, not so low but low for being a donor).

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Simoneme said:
So
checked my closed and what I have is the essential for next run:
- 2 x testo enantate
-1 nandrolone deca
-2 boldenone
-proviron
- clomid / nolva / ai / carda / osta

SO: what could I do is using the enanthate for TRT (150 x week 1 pin till January), in the meanwhile order other enanthate for the cycle + 1 bottle of sus for montlhly holiday pin ( 2 weeks on holyday in december).

Later I will open a new log for winter cycle, where I will discuss dosage for the next spin

I attach also last week panel as potential blood donor ( I have been suspended due to low emoglobine, not so low but low for being a donor).

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That will work, start self TRT with test and get some sustanon, who is your supplier PSL? @Simoneme
 
Simoneme said:
I would like to share my consideration at the end of this first journey.
First of all, gears are a two-edged sword: from one side you feel you can work out heavier, better, faster, harder. From the other side, it's quite easy to overtrain and get an injury (that's what happened to me). For the next cycle, FOR SURE I will enjoy the moment but I won't push so hard anymore, knowing the fact that I could injury again. On top of th is, I can say that if you do gears, you won't for sure get stronger that all the natural guys in the gym, at least in my case. I tend to have poor genetic, and who says that geared people are stronger than natural people is doing wrong. You are stronger if you are stronger, that's it. Gears help to shape, helps to recovery, and many other stuff, but genetic first of all.

That being said, already planning next cycle for january which will include Test / Deca

I will post again here next exhams and full panel before then.

Cheers all.
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Can't wait to see the panel
 
Simoneme said:
So
checked my closed and what I have is the essential for next run:
- 2 x testo enantate
-1 nandrolone deca
-2 boldenone
-proviron
- clomid / nolva / ai / carda / osta

SO: what could I do is using the enanthate for TRT (150 x week 1 pin till January), in the meanwhile order other enanthate for the cycle + 1 bottle of sus for montlhly holiday pin ( 2 weeks on holyday in december).

Later I will open a new log for winter cycle, where I will discuss dosage for the next spin

I attach also last week panel as potential blood donor ( I have been suspended due to low emoglobine, not so low but low for being a donor).

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@Simoneme great updates.......
 
Simoneme said:
Update
Started self TRT, 1 pin x week test E 150 mg
Is it correct or do I have to split? I saw it gas 4/5 days half life
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Yes split mon/thur don't do 1 pin.
post a pic of the gear you're pinning @Simoneme
 
Ho all, 2 week on TRT, Started also bulking a bit again.

Some wod of the week:

Team2x
ForTime
5MUsynchro
20Deadlift
Ladder up 2@20 Power Clean

Rx90/65 Cap30'

Did with 80 kg and 3 muscle ups


Teamx2
30Rnds(one each)
9T2b
2Wallwalk
3Clean&&jerk 80/660
Cap33'
Did 7 toes to bar 1 wall wall and 70 kg

Slowly getting back, dialing with my pains of course
Cheers
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Simoneme said:
Ho all, 2 week on TRT, Started also bulking a bit again.

Some wod of the week:

Team2x
ForTime
5MUsynchro
20Deadlift
Ladder up 2@20 Power Clean

Rx90/65 Cap30'

Did with 80 kg and 3 muscle ups


Teamx2
30Rnds(one each)
9T2b
2Wallwalk
3Clean&&jerk 80/660
Cap33'
Did 7 toes to bar 1 wall wall and 70 kg

Slowly getting back, dialing with my pains of course
Cheers
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Good to see you back at it and easing into those WODs with smart load choices. TRT will help recovery but keep your cleans and jerks around 70–80 kg until mobility and joint pain improve, then start adding 2.5 kg each week.

Your conditioning will be sharp with that much work volume so keep carbs high post-training to stay fueled. Once the pain settles, aim for 2x per week strength focus alongside the metcon days to rebuild base power safely. and the food pics amazing high protein :D @Simoneme
 
Simoneme said:
Ho all, 2 week on TRT, Started also bulking a bit again.

Some wod of the week:

Team2x
ForTime
5MUsynchro
20Deadlift
Ladder up 2@20 Power Clean

Rx90/65 Cap30'

Did with 80 kg and 3 muscle ups


Teamx2
30Rnds(one each)
9T2b
2Wallwalk
3Clean&&jerk 80/660
Cap33'
Did 7 toes to bar 1 wall wall and 70 kg

Slowly getting back, dialing with my pains of course
Cheers
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@Simoneme For some reason food always tastes better on a stick. I've read it has something to do with just the sensories or just the way your mind views it.
 
Mobster said:
What does bulking a 'bit' mean? Better to be specific
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I had a deload periodo ( lowered loaded weight due to a strain) so I lowered carbs as well because I was not pushing that hard. Remember I do crossfit / olympic lift and strenght conditioning stuff so carbs are crucial for me. More, I had to lose 1-2 kg to relax my poor knees. Now, starting feeling a bit better so I try to charge again, slowly.
Today gnocchi for pre lunch snack with some turkey
 

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Simoneme said:
I had a deload periodo ( lowered loaded weight due to a strain) so I lowered carbs as well because I was not pushing that hard. Remember I do crossfit / olympic lift and strenght conditioning stuff so carbs are crucial for me. More, I had to lose 1-2 kg to relax my poor knees. Now, starting feeling a bit better so I try to charge again, slowly.
Today gnocchi for pre lunch snack with some turkey
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gnocchi with turkey sounds interesting. do you cook your own turkey or do you make it on your own? i know its hard to make but it tastes so damn good ! @Simoneme
 
2Thick said:
gnocchi with turkey sounds interesting. do you cook your own turkey or do you make it on your own? i know its hard to make but it tastes so damn good ! @Simoneme
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Its a pre cutted pack of Roasted brest
We do not Cook turkey in Italy, usually chicken or the best is Guinea fowl, tipical granny sunday lunch. Also the mallard / Green Duck! I have it tattooed :)
 
2Thick said:
yeah americans think italians eat pizza and pasta all day LMAO
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and we play mandolin as well
well, we do eat a lot of pizza for sure, and carbs from pasta. But personally, I live in a region called "food valley", famous all over the world for ham (we have also a kind of ham that cost 70 € per kg, super seasoned) and hunting wildlife like boars, hares, ducks, pheasant, also the best porcini mushrooms and truffles as well! And don't forget about horse meat! In my town we eat it raw with oil salt lemon and mustard grains (see picture ;). We have horse butchery, at least 10 or 15 here in my village :) Also cow and pork boiled are for top players in autumn, especially with mustard fruit ...You can't imagin how many different foods we have in Italy :D
 

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Simoneme said:
Ho all, 2 week on TRT, Started also bulking a bit again.

Some wod of the week:

Team2x
ForTime
5MUsynchro
20Deadlift
Ladder up 2@20 Power Clean

Rx90/65 Cap30'

Did with 80 kg and 3 muscle ups


Teamx2
30Rnds(one each)
9T2b
2Wallwalk
3Clean&&jerk 80/660
Cap33'
Did 7 toes to bar 1 wall wall and 70 kg

Slowly getting back, dialing with my pains of course
Cheers
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I didn't even know you could cook broccoli in an air fryer like that. @Simoneme Do you boil them first before putting them in? or do you just put them in their raw?
 
Simoneme said:
and we play mandolin as well
well, we do eat a lot of pizza for sure, and carbs from pasta. But personally, I live in a region called "food valley", famous all over the world for ham (we have also a kind of ham that cost 70 € per kg, super seasoned) and hunting wildlife like boars, hares, ducks, pheasant, also the best porcini mushrooms and truffles as well! And don't forget about horse meat! In my town we eat it raw with oil salt lemon and mustard grains (see picture ;). We have horse butchery, at least 10 or 15 here in my village :) Also cow and pork boiled are for top players in autumn, especially with mustard fruit ...You can't imagin how many different foods we have in Italy :D
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@Simoneme sounds like you have access to the finest foods in the world. consider yourself blessed. are there any restrictions on hunting?
 
Simoneme said:
and we play mandolin as well
well, we do eat a lot of pizza for sure, and carbs from pasta. But personally, I live in a region called "food valley", famous all over the world for ham (we have also a kind of ham that cost 70 € per kg, super seasoned) and hunting wildlife like boars, hares, ducks, pheasant, also the best porcini mushrooms and truffles as well! And don't forget about horse meat! In my town we eat it raw with oil salt lemon and mustard grains (see picture ;). We have horse butchery, at least 10 or 15 here in my village :) Also cow and pork boiled are for top players in autumn, especially with mustard fruit ...You can't imagin how many different foods we have in Italy :D
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bros i bet your pizza nothing like pizza in america though. your pizza gotta be 1000% better.. our pizza all franchise crap @Simoneme
 
Simoneme said:
and we play mandolin as well
well, we do eat a lot of pizza for sure, and carbs from pasta. But personally, I live in a region called "food valley", famous all over the world for ham (we have also a kind of ham that cost 70 € per kg, super seasoned) and hunting wildlife like boars, hares, ducks, pheasant, also the best porcini mushrooms and truffles as well! And don't forget about horse meat! In my town we eat it raw with oil salt lemon and mustard grains (see picture ;). We have horse butchery, at least 10 or 15 here in my village :) Also cow and pork boiled are for top players in autumn, especially with mustard fruit ...You can't imagin how many different foods we have in Italy :D
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is the food expensive or is it very affordable?
 
ROIDDERS said:
@Simoneme sounds like you have access to the finest foods in the world. consider yourself blessed. are there any restrictions on hunting?
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Well there is Hunt season, but my friend call themselves safari poachers, you know...
Boars can reach 150 kg. If you catch it, you have to call authorities and advise, They will check if it has pig fever, which can destroy a pig farm, not lethal for us
 
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