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Scammed by a trusted seller Steven Swatsky Big Waz Big time scammer

@Eddie Haskell i asked you 3 times. Ke to request @MrWonderful tell you the exact date and the extract amount of money that was sent. You clearly keep ignoring that message and I told you I would upload my banking information TO PROVE NO SUCH MONEY EVER CAME TO MY ACCOUNT. I told you I’d upload my banking info and your clearly don’t care. So @MrWonderful please post the date and the exact amount sent and I’ll post my banking records showing nothing of the sorts ever being sent to me
 
@Eddie Haskell i asked you 3 times. Ke to request @MrWonderful tell you the exact date and the extract amount of money that was sent. You clearly keep ignoring that message and I told you I would upload my banking information TO PROVE NO SUCH MONEY EVER CAME TO MY ACCOUNT. I told you I’d upload my banking info and your clearly don’t care. So @MrWonderful please post the date and the exact amount sent and I’ll post my banking records showing nothing of the sorts ever being sent to me
@MrWonderful posted all screenshots go look, enough of these games already.
 

STEVEN SAWATSKY is a fucken bum ass scammer !! Don’t send this clown a dime! Guy fucken got me for over 2k I definitely should not have sent that much but I trusted him as he was tagged as a trusted seller!!!​


You sure the fuck did scamm me you big dummy you clearly sent me your number and said to hit you via WhatsApp so I did same number you fucken provided !

Like what kind of fucking scumbag does this to a person view the message of me saying to him that money is tight with the holidays around the corner and he responds with don’t worry you’re in good hands fucking scamming self-centered piece of shit. Only cares about himself. @Bigswaz karma will rear her head

Screenshots below of our WhatsApp conversations after he sent me his info on this Evo forum

OK, yes clearly I’m hot right now because I just got scammed for $2000 I will try to be as clear as possible so I made a post in here a while back, saying I was scammed by steroidhubcanada and @LevButlerov replied and tagged Nordic fusion, and then below that tagged @Bigswaz then a week ago I went back to that original post and DM a few people that live tagged big Waz was the first person to my DM which I will provide in the below attachments he then sent me his number and told me to WhatsApp him so I did. He sent me his list and it’s the exact same number that he provided in this evo Forum DM
He provided two fake tracking numbers when I messaged him today, asking him to double check the tracking numbers he didn’t respond and removed his number from WhatsApp I then called him. He answered, acted like he didn’t know me, but it was exact same number that I was talking to him via WhatsApp and I will attach the screenshots below of our WhatsApp conversation as well kindly view the highlighted number. It’s the exact same as provided in the Evo DM so I don’t understand what the confusion is here when he clearly scammed me.

That’s the message

Yes that’s exactly it and here is the number on what’s up and it’s your phone number and here’s my initial text message to him because he wasn’t answering via WhatsApp anymore because he deleted his number off of it thinking he’s slick but he’s just a stupid scammer

View screen recording I could only send a video this short so kindly view them all

He said it’s his number and to hit him up! Sure if you guys need to ban me that’s fine! Just know big Waz is a scumbag scammer !!

Here it is

Is this not your number lol you clearly provided it in the evo chat

Here I believe this is what you asked me to do



Here you go same bathroom I’ve always used in every single photo uokoad I’ve ever taken. Look at my log I’m always in this one bathroom taking my selfies of my abs

Sure as fuck doesn’t look anything close to the photos he’s showing. Again IM TIRED OF DEFENDING MYSLEF FOR THIS FUCKING SHT


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@Eddie Haskell

Same countertop in the bathroom from your log and what you sent him in the photo of the vials.

I also beleive I found your social media. Your face is blurred here but the skin tone, size and beard stubble color all match.

You said you had the one bathroom but you posted this on your log. Busted, I should get a reward.

Yeah ok buddy. Straight from the horses mouth.

You are Guilty.

Grats on your 2k bro I’m happy for you, you post religious shit on your socials but chooch over civilians. Real classy.
It’s all here.
 
@MrWonderful posted all screenshots go look, enough of these games already.
Please show a deposit from this man on the statement me please ??? December 6th is when is sent the transfer please show me a transfer made from such Dustin Riske?
 

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Look I know it looks bad but he said he’s from Vancouver, he said he e transferred ne money and swears he talked to me in WhatsApp. I never had any conversations with him on WhatsApp. But what’s the odds that’s their another Steven sawatsky he’s claiming took his money and lives in the exact same city he does?? Not to mention my LAST NAME ISNT SAWATSKY
 

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But what’s the odds that’s their another Steven sawatsky he’s claiming took his money and lives in the exact same city he does?? Not to mention my LAST NAME ISNT SAWATSKY
and what are the odds he has your phone number?
Move over mega millions, I’m betting here.
 
and what are the odds he has your phone number?
Move over mega millions, I’m betting here.
Alright well I’m walking away you’ve clearly made your mind up. I hope something like this doesn’t happen with someone else. Red flag he messsged a handful of members asking for sources even after being told about approved sources. New member with no posts going around asking hoping someone would hop on board so he could play this kind of game. I bet he never lost any money and I bet he never sent it to anyone but that friend of his, whatever ill delete my account myself.

I’d highly suggest you check all the mail boxes he’s messaged I’m sure he’s still doing it now
 
First and foremost, I want to sincerely thank the entire EVO family for allowing me to be a part of this community. It has truly been an honour and a privilege to log my journey here and share my progress alongside such an experienced, knowledgeable group of individuals. This forum consistently upholds a standard of accountability, support, and respect that is rare to find, and I’m grateful to have learned from so many of you.

Secondly, I want to formally apologize to the community for the unnecessary disruption that has taken place over the past 12 hours. While I stand firmly by my position that I had no contact or interaction with the new member in question, I regret that the situation escalated to the point that it impacted the forum as a whole. That was never my intention.

EVO is a community built on integrity, transparency, and mutual respect. It is unfortunate when situations arise that detract from those values, and I genuinely hope that moving forward, safeguards continue to protect long-standing members who contribute positively and uphold the standards this forum is known for.

Once again, I apologize for the disturbance this situation caused. I have nothing but respect for this community and its leadership, and I wish everyone here continued success in their individual goals.

If the decision is made to remove or ban me from the community, I will fully respect and accept that outcome.
 
@Bigswaz the evidence against you is overwhelming man. He's proven the conversations are real on WhatsApp. Yes maybe someone spoofed your number, why...I can't imagine any scenario.

@BCGains really nailed you with the bathroom pics

It's too much to deny at this point. It's very possible if someone was a scammed they would have online aliases and fake accounts setup to receive money. That isn't a novel idea man. It's all pretty simple to do.

Hate to say it but at this point it looks like you did it unless you can come up with something to prove yourself innocent. The shoes on the other foot now as far as I can see.

@MrWonderful you had a right to be mad but you came on here like a crazy jilted ex girlfriend or something. Not a good look when you're trying to make a point. Hopefully you learned your lesson this time and order from @Fusion Canada
 
@Bigswaz the evidence against you is overwhelming man. He's proven the conversations are real on WhatsApp. Yes maybe someone spoofed your number, why...I can't imagine any scenario.

@BCGains really nailed you with the bathroom pics

It's too much to deny at this point. It's very possible if someone was a scammed they would have online aliases and fake accounts setup to receive money. That isn't a novel idea man. It's all pretty simple to do.

Hate to say it but at this point it looks like you did it unless you can come up with something to prove yourself innocent. The shoes on the other foot now as far as I can see.

@MrWonderful you had a right to be mad but you came on here like a crazy jilted ex girlfriend or something. Not a good look when you're trying to make a point. Hopefully you learned your lesson this time and order from @Fusion Canada
I uploaded my bank statement even that wasn’t good enough so is what it is. I’ve put my sword down.
 
First and foremost, I want to sincerely thank the entire EVO family for allowing me to be a part of this community. It has truly been an honour and a privilege to log my journey here and share my progress alongside such an experienced, knowledgeable group of individuals. This forum consistently upholds a standard of accountability, support, and respect that is rare to find, and I’m grateful to have learned from so many of you.

Secondly, I want to formally apologize to the community for the unnecessary disruption that has taken place over the past 12 hours. While I stand firmly by my position that I had no contact or interaction with the new member in question, I regret that the situation escalated to the point that it impacted the forum as a whole. That was never my intention.

EVO is a community built on integrity, transparency, and mutual respect. It is unfortunate when situations arise that detract from those values, and I genuinely hope that moving forward, safeguards continue to protect long-standing members who contribute positively and uphold the standards this forum is known for.

Once again, I apologize for the disturbance this situation caused. I have nothing but respect for this community and its leadership, and I wish everyone here continued success in their individual goals.

If the decision is made to remove or ban me from the community, I will fully respect and accept that outcome.
Nice use of ChatGPT proofreading bruh 😂😂

Weren’t you leaving in the post you made just before ? Stop threatening with your constant flip flopping and pretend to be an actual man and man up 😂
Don’t accidentally sit your butt on the ‘sword’ you’ve drawn up!

You are a true literal representation/definition of a pathological liar, I’m sure with the amount of BS you’ve conjured up that even you are starting to believe your own shit.
 
@Bigswaz the evidence against you is overwhelming man. He's proven the conversations are real on WhatsApp. Yes maybe someone spoofed your number, why...I can't imagine any scenario.

@BCGains really nailed you with the bathroom pics

It's too much to deny at this point. It's very possible if someone was a scammed they would have online aliases and fake accounts setup to receive money. That isn't a novel idea man. It's all pretty simple to do.

Hate to say it but at this point it looks like you did it unless you can come up with something to prove yourself innocent. The shoes on the other foot now as far as I can see.

@MrWonderful you had a right to be mad but you came on here like a crazy jilted ex girlfriend or something. Not a good look when you're trying to make a point. Hopefully you learned your lesson this time and order from @Fusion Canada
True. Ditto if he also did make death threats etc. NOT the way to handle it.
 
Please show a deposit from this man on the statement me please ??? December 6th is when is sent the transfer please show me a transfer made from such Dustin Riske?
He posted this already scroll up
 
First and foremost, I want to sincerely thank the entire EVO family for allowing me to be a part of this community. It has truly been an honour and a privilege to log my journey here and share my progress alongside such an experienced, knowledgeable group of individuals. This forum consistently upholds a standard of accountability, support, and respect that is rare to find, and I’m grateful to have learned from so many of you.

Secondly, I want to formally apologize to the community for the unnecessary disruption that has taken place over the past 12 hours. While I stand firmly by my position that I had no contact or interaction with the new member in question, I regret that the situation escalated to the point that it impacted the forum as a whole. That was never my intention.

EVO is a community built on integrity, transparency, and mutual respect. It is unfortunate when situations arise that detract from those values, and I genuinely hope that moving forward, safeguards continue to protect long-standing members who contribute positively and uphold the standards this forum is known for.

Once again, I apologize for the disturbance this situation caused. I have nothing but respect for this community and its leadership, and I wish everyone here continued success in their individual goals.

If the decision is made to remove or ban me from the community, I will fully respect and accept that outcome.
This is AI written.
 
Yeah I seen and I posted mine as well yet mine isn’t good enough.
No what isn’t good enough is this:

  • You DM him your cell # on EVO on Friday
  • The scam happens on Friday and over the weekend using and from your own number YOU DM’d
  • On Monday you answer your personal cell # at the same # you DM’d on Friday.
So, some genius hacker spoofed your phone over the weekend and had a bank account ready similar to your name just to scam $2k and had access to your DM’s on EVO too to set up this whole hoax up perfectly timed just to make it look like you?

The @BCGains pics are hard evidence but the way in which you could be a victim of someone using your phone number in between the time you gave it on EVO on Friday and the time you answered that same number on Monday and also knew to use your name (or similar one that “isn’t” your name) is way too out of the realm of belief let alone gives any reasonable doubt it was you talking after the DM’d cell # on EVO to then the pick up on Monday. So the scammer if it wasn’t you knew how to time this scam that perfectly?

You post a pic of a different bathroom and show your PALM and not your fingers or fingernails and also send a message perfectly timed after the scam asking if he found someone else?

You’d agree you also could have a bank account solely for your scams where the money is sitting? This is obvious and your provided bank statement prove nothing.

The jury would finish their free lunch and muffins and find you guilty in 2 hours.
 
If it can be determined that @Bigswaz isn’t full of shit about calling the RCMP then he needs to be banned as EVO has nothing to do with this whatsoever. I won’t go into more detail but no forum needs the police involved with Canadas lack of so called Freedom of Speech. Trucker protest during Covid being a great example.
 
If it can be determined that @Bigswaz isn’t full of shit about calling the RCMP then he needs to be banned as EVO has nothing to do with this whatsoever. I won’t go into more detail but no forum needs the police involved with Canadas lack of so called Freedom of Speech. Trucker protest during Covid being a great example.
Oh I went straight to the rcmp detachment office buddy. I made a full report and going to see my lawyer today. That’s all 100% FACTS! Go ahead ban me but I’m TAKING FULL LEGAL ACTION AGANTS @MrWonderful and anyone they can catch using blocked numbers threatening mine and my families well being. All my calls are recorded with an app on my phone. RCMP have the recording from @MrWonderful and his texts he sent me to my personal phone last night via iMessages. The rest of the recordings I got from blocked calls will be given to the RCMP today after I speak to my lawyer
 
he probably did call the rcmp, my current wife did the same when my ex was harassing us years ago. It doesn’t take much;

Bigswaz: hi this number is harassing me
RCMP; ok please let us know if he calls you again

That’s not really evidence of anything.

Bank statements aren’t evidence of anything.

No he’s not hunting a “legal” team. Hes full of shit. Ive dealt with lawyers many times it’s part of my job and it costs far too much to even pursue anything like this and will result in nothing for him either way.

Dude you got busted, there’s no back pedalling no amount of denial will help when the evidence is stacked against you.

You are a snake in the grass.
 
he probably did call the rcmp, my current wife did the same when my ex was harassing us years ago. It doesn’t take much;

Bigswaz: hi this number is harassing me
RCMP; ok please let us know if he calls you again

That’s not really evidence of anything.

Bank statements aren’t evidence of anything.

No he’s not hunting a “legal” team. Hes full of shit. Ive dealt with lawyers many times it’s part of my job and it costs far too much for even pursue anything like this and will result in nothing for him either way.

Dude you got busted, there’s no back pedalling no amount of denial will help when the evidence is stacked against you.

You are a snake in the grass.
Still taking full legal action. Feel free to discuss your situation, your probably one of the people calling making death threats too. No worries dude I’ll make sure the law upholds it.
 
Lmao good luck with that bro.
Posting names numbers and other personal information against the privacy act in Canada. Buddy and I’m being threanted and harassed because of it all highly illegal and posting it on a public platform for others to call and threanted me is again against the law in Canada start reading. I talked to my lawyer over the phone theirs a reason I took screen shots of this entire thread.
 
@Bigswaz you’re guilty and now stomping your feet and throwing a tantrum with AI to sound professional.

I have mod duties that are way more important at this point and I’m out. This is a reverse onus on you based on the hard evidence investigated by @Eddie Haskell, myself, and @BCGains.

End of story (for me). Oh and why remove the names now if it’s not yours anyway?
 
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@Bigswaz you’re guilty and now stomping your feet and throwing a tantrum with AI to sound professional.

I have mod duties that are way more important at this point and I’m out. This is a reverse onus on you based on the hard evidence investigated by @Eddie Haskell, myself, and @BCGains.

End of story (for me).
Like I said ban me, you’re not the one getting threats to have your family killed. Good on you
 
I will agree that his personal information should be removed. But it’s his own fault that it’s even out there now.
It’s apparently not even his name though 🤣🤣
 
It’s apparently not even his name though 🤣🤣
Last name isn’t first name is, phone number is your you so fucking retarded to allow people to call and threaten families. Congrats if it was your family Sht would have been taken down already. Don’t have to care about me but where’s the heart of the rest of the family. My goodness
 
Last name isn’t first name is, phone number is your you so fucking retarded to allow people to call and threaten families. Congrats if it was your family Sht would have been taken down already. Don’t have to care about me but where’s the heart of the rest of the family. My goodness
Should have thought of that before you decided to scam lil bro.
It’s apparently not even his name though 🤣🤣
Not his name
Not his number
Not his WhatsApp chat
Not his email for bank transfer
Not his bathroom

😭

This was the most fun poop I’ve had in a while this morning.

My wife’s yelling at me asking if I’m doing the shakshuka 👊🍆

Little does she know of the drama lmao
 
Make sure you show the cops the bathroom photos 🤣

I’m sure none of this will incriminate you for selling anabolic steroids. They are probably chill and won’t mind
Last I checked possession of steroids in Canada is legal, selling distribution is illegal. I never sold any steroids or recieved payment for steroids. So yeah I mean have a good laugh I guess.
 
Last I checked possession of steroids in Canada is legal, selling distribution is illegal. I never sold any steroids or recieved payment for steroids. So yeah I mean have a good laugh I guess.
I’m sure the cops will take your side lil bro, I’m sure they will scroll past the photos of you sending him lists and prices and accepting e transfers, constantly upselling him to make him push his spend value higher by offering him free primo or mast if he hits x order value

I’m sure all of the evidence we see they will see and totally have your back and put you into witness protection too.

Totally doesn’t come off like you sell steroids. Def call the cops give them all of the evidence bro good idea.

I’m with you on this one forsure!
 
Accusations flying, numbers being thrown around, and now the cops are involved? Sounds like a total circus. Honestly, at this point, just nuke the whole thread from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!
 
Last name isn’t first name is, phone number is your you so fucking retarded to allow people to call and threaten families. Congrats if it was your family Sht would have been taken down already. Don’t have to care about me but where’s the heart of the rest of the family. My goodness
That's your accusation for the RCMP to deal with I have no opinion on it for the record.

The scam accusation in my opinion you're guilty.
 
Accusations flying, numbers being thrown around, and now the cops are involved? Sounds like a total circus. Honestly, at this point, just nuke the whole thread from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!
It's a great example of why we only recommend approved sources and what can happen when people go off the EVO grid of trusted sources. It's a great thread for that in fact.
 
I’ve got all the screen shots of this whole thread I’ll be taking in as well.
To what end pray tell?

Have someone else read it and ask how it looks. It wont be for the suggestion of being banned.

Nor the idea of being accused of scamming someone.

And I haven't seen any death threats here from your accuser.

It'd take a great deal, assuming anything, for me to report a forum thread to the police. And as proof of what?

You also KNOW, regardless of your POTENTIAL guilt, that 1) we allow freedom of speech and 2) we protect our members from scammers.
 
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Last I checked possession of steroids in Canada is legal, selling distribution is illegal. I never sold any steroids or recieved payment for steroids. So yeah I mean have a good laugh I guess.
Sigh. This whole 'the money never went into my account' thing is getting silly.

You're a likable intelligent guy so let's see if we can agree on how, with no effort on my part, this could be done.

1. TWO (or more) bank accounts. Well d'uh
2. Crypto.
3. Paypal.

C'mon. That took me 5 seconds.
 
Sigh. This whole 'the money never went into my account' thing is getting silly.

You're a likable intelligent guy so let's see if we can agree on how, with no effort on my part, this could be done.

1. TWO (or more) bank accounts. Well d'uh
2. Crypto.
3. Paypal.

C'mon. That took me 5 seconds.
I’m not saying you can take bank statements and throw them into aI and have it remove or add certain statements.

I’m not saying for tax purposes this hasn’t been done before.

I wouldn’t know to be honest, but it def seems quite possible. 😅
 
I’m not saying you can take bank statements and throw them into aI and have it remove or add certain statements.

I’m not saying for tax purposes this hasn’t been done before.

I wouldn’t know to be honest, but it def seems quite possible. 😅
You AI pusher you lol.

God how I hate AI. When a member needs to get ChatGPT to sort an apology... not exactly heartfelt is it?
 
To what end pray tell?

Have someone else read it and ask how it looks. It wont be for the suggestion of being banned.

Nor the idea of being accused of scamming someone.

And I haven't seen any death threats here from your accuser.

It'd take a great deal, assuming anything, for me to report a forum thread to the police. And as proof of what?

You also KNOW, regardless of your POTENTIAL guilt, that 1) we allow freedom of speech and 2) we protect our members from scammers.
Read the laws in Canada about personal information. Privacy ect.
Sigh. This whole 'the money never went into my account' thing is getting silly.

You're a likable intelligent guy so let's see if we can agree on how, with no effort on my part, this could be done.

1. TWO (or more) bank accounts. Well d'uh
2. Crypto.
3. Paypal.

C'mon. That took me 5 seconds.
Second only have 1 bank account. He sent an e transfer which goes directly to the BANK account not crypto or PayPal. DUH. But the death threats and phone calls from having my personal information being uploaded on a public site is illegal in Canada and goes against various other laws. Like i said you’ll learn them soon enough
 
Read the laws in Canada about personal information. Privacy ect.

Second only have 1 bank account. He sent an e transfer which goes directly to the BANK account not crypto or PayPal. DUH. But the death threats and phone calls from having my personal information being uploaded on a public site is illegal in Canada and goes against various other laws. Like i said you’ll learn them soon enough
Me? Unlikely. You might recall I'm neither US nor Canadian based. Heck, I'm not even sure if the forum is based in either. Plus that sounds an awful lot like a legal threat. Which would be ironic. And, as per my recently replied DM and posts above, is 1) beyond my permission level and 2) a knock on freedom of speech.

IF you can, or have to, get those details removed, fine. No skin of my nose. I was also clear about how I've dealt with DMs asking for sources etc. As others have said - stick to APPROVED sources

Try not to threaten people with legal action. I suspect that WOULD get you banned.
 
Read the laws in Canada about personal information. Privacy ect.

Second only have 1 bank account. He sent an e transfer which goes directly to the BANK account not crypto or PayPal. DUH. But the death threats and phone calls from having my personal information being uploaded on a public site is illegal in Canada and goes against various other laws. Like i said you’ll learn them soon enough
Again - how does it look. I can say I've 2 cocks. Doesn't mean it's a fact - just me posting on a forum
 
This is an unfortunate situation all around and i wish it never happened in the first place, all of this could have been avoided had OP just listened and took our advice in the first place, we provide sources for this very reason so these things happen at a minimum on evo we go with what we have all used, trust and know will be delivered and works from experience.

Spending that kind of money knowing xmas is approaching is super selfish man sorry it just is, id never pull a stunt like that, my gains can wait family first is how i do things.

@Bigswaz bringing any type of law enforcement on evo isn't the right move imo, i understand what he said and what he did, i feel you can handle it without involving evo, if you truly are thankful for the community regardless of what happens you wouldn't put the evo community in harms way, you know how this game works and goes, you would be drawing way to many unwanted eyes that need to be prying around the community, i dont see the reasoning to harm other's experiences and the sources they have or use by bringing lawyers and cops into play.

This whole situation was exhausting reading and frankly OP needs to wise the hell up and make smarter choices in life and with his sources and not threaten people because you make it difficult on the rest of us who did nothing to have any of this happen, next time be smarter and handle things like a man would and not with emotions, you shouldn't be threatening anyone anyway you lost money that you wouldn't have had you listened in the first place, this falls squarely on you man.
 
Advice for ALL concerned:

Note when we talk about our rules: feel free to be upset, more so if you're scammed or publicly available (all too often) and or private info is posted on a forum. Screaming, pissy language and threats of all types are a No-No. Been there, done that, got banned for my trouble (also embarrassed myself). I DO get the possible threats to family - but calm down, take a breath, contact admin and pull your head in (what choice do you have?).

Worst case scenario - you get banned. Well ok. Not the end of the universe.

How many times have we seen sources described as scammers only to see the person posting realize the domain was wrong etc?

Equally, if the member making the accusation here had been wrong he'd have been gone too.

Me? I'd ban them both. That's why they don't let me edit posts etc lol
 
This is an unfortunate situation all around and i wish it never happened in the first place, all of this could have been avoided had OP just listened and took our advice in the first place, we provide sources for this very reason so these things happen at a minimum on evo we go with what we have all used, trust and know will be delivered and works from experience.

Spending that kind of money knowing xmas is approaching is super selfish man sorry it just is, id never pull a stunt like that, my gains can wait family first is how i do things.

@Bigswaz bringing any type of law enforcement on evo isn't the right move imo, i understand what he said and what he did, i feel you can handle it without involving evo, if you truly are thankful for the community regardless of what happens you wouldn't put the evo community in harms way, you know how this game works and goes, you would be drawing way to many unwanted eyes that need to be prying around the community, i dont see the reasoning to harm other's experiences and the sources they have or use by bringing lawyers and cops into play.

This whole situation was exhausting reading and frankly OP needs to wise the hell up and make smarter choices in life and with his sources and not threaten people because you make it difficult on the rest of us who did nothing to have any of this happen, next time be smarter and handle things like a man would and not with emotions, you shouldn't be threatening anyone anyway you lost money that you wouldn't have had you listened in the first place, this falls squarely on you man.
100% this. Regardless.
 
This is an unfortunate situation all around and i wish it never happened in the first place, all of this could have been avoided had OP just listened and took our advice in the first place, we provide sources for this very reason so these things happen at a minimum on evo we go with what we have all used, trust and know will be delivered and works from experience.

Spending that kind of money knowing xmas is approaching is super selfish man sorry it just is, id never pull a stunt like that, my gains can wait family first is how i do things.

@Bigswaz bringing any type of law enforcement on evo isn't the right move imo, i understand what he said and what he did, i feel you can handle it without involving evo, if you truly are thankful for the community regardless of what happens you wouldn't put the evo community in harms way, you know how this game works and goes, you would be drawing way to many unwanted eyes that need to be prying around the community, i dont see the reasoning to harm other's experiences and the sources they have or use by bringing lawyers and cops into play.

This whole situation was exhausting reading and frankly OP needs to wise the hell up and make smarter choices in life and with his sources and not threaten people because you make it difficult on the rest of us who did nothing to have any of this happen, next time be smarter and handle things like a man would and not with emotions, you shouldn't be threatening anyone anyway you lost money that you wouldn't have had you listened in the first place, this falls squarely on you man.
I’m just asking for my personal information to be removed. Or the thread taken down in general as it holds personal information of both parties. I’ve contacted the admins it’s in their hands now wether or jit they take it down if not then I have no other choice. I’ve had 23 calls threatening to kill my family to rape my wife and to skit my kids throats. So yes believe me when I say my family comes first over this community. All I ask is the thread be taken down with all personal information. I mean come on if it wa ANY OF THE MODS FAMILY IT WOULD BE TAKEN DOWN ALREADY
 
Advice for ALL concerned:

Note when we talk about our rules: feel free to be upset, more so if you're scammed or publicly available (all too often) and or private info is posted on a forum. Screaming, pissy language and threats of all types are a No-No. Been there, done that, got banned for my trouble (also embarrassed myself). I DO get the possible threats to family - but calm down, take a breath, contact admin and pull your head in (what choice do you have?).

Worst case scenario - you get banned. Well ok. Not the end of the universe.

How many times have we seen sources described as scammers only to see the person posting realize the domain was wrong etc?

Equally, if the member making the accusation here had been wrong he'd have been gone too.

Me? I'd ban them both. That's why they don't let me edit posts etc lol
I can attest with what you said perfectly, as an example pharmaqo and belgias both have official sites you can remove the film off the side of the box or the vial and run the numbers so you can ensure its authentic.

I found the scam sites and the real sites, if a person doesnt know mutiple fake sites exist they will be tricked into thinking they got a bunk product when in reality its far from fake or bunk.

On the scam sites my codes came up as fake, on the authentic sites we have here on evo my code comes back authentic by going onto the actual source verification website.

I feel its a case of people only seeing what they want to see or believe, majority of people new at this dont research any of the finite details, they just go straight into i need gear i want gear im gonna spend a ton of money and hope i dont get scammed.

Evo exists for a reason because people like you and many others including me now have so much combined experience and inside knowledge so we can guide people correctly.

I dont understand why people would question that advice or go a different direction entirely, if only people took the time to understand the pitfalls of all this and how they could avoid them.

I get zero kickback from any source on this site by steering a potential customer towards that source absolutely 0 finical or other incentives come from my recommendations, i give them based on products and companies ive used and can explain shipping times, packaging labels codes experiences.

I log partly for those reasons above so even someone who lurks and doesnt post can see the quality and actual products being used and tested by me personally.
 
I’m just asking for my personal information to be removed. Or the thread taken down in general as it holds personal information of both parties. I’ve contacted the admins it’s in their hands now wether or jit they take it down if not then I have no other choice. I’ve had 23 calls threatening to kill my family to rape my wife and to skit my kids throats. So yes believe me when I say my family comes first over this community. All I ask is the thread be taken down with all personal information. I mean come on if it wa ANY OF THE MODS FAMILY IT WOULD BE TAKEN DOWN ALREADY
I dont agree with any of that happening to you or your family as that is absolutely horrific and disgusting behavior i cant stand behind any of that disgusting nonsense.

You can use the calls that should be plenty enough information with the threats being made towards your family.

I also just dont need or want leo snooping around evo or lawyers to put evo into a legal document as thats bad for everyone who utilizes this community positively or the sources as well, i dont want to see something happening with the trust quality and report we have built with them.

The sources know they can trust we will take care of the security and privacy aspects so they can contiune being part of our community.

If i could lock or delete this i would i dont think i can and it i could i wouldn't want to act to quickly and then i do something wrong trust me i want to take this down and remove it all entirely, i have people above me that i cant go over them irregardless of circumstance.
 
I want to thank @Eddie Haskell for tagging me and accusing me of being a part of this. Had he not done this I wouldn’t have enjoyed the last 12 or so hours on Evo as I likely wouldn’t have even seen this amazing thread.

Today is my birthday and this was a wonderful way to start it.

Many thanks everyone, truly.

Ps, if anyone wants to send me birthday vials lmk…
Steven? 😂
 
he probably did call the rcmp, my current wife did the same when my ex was harassing us years ago. It doesn’t take much;

Bigswaz: hi this number is harassing me
RCMP; ok please let us know if he calls you again

That’s not really evidence of anything.

Bank statements aren’t evidence of anything.

No he’s not hunting a “legal” team. Hes full of shit. Ive dealt with lawyers many times it’s part of my job and it costs far too much to even pursue anything like this and will result in nothing for him either way.

Dude you got busted, there’s no back pedalling no amount of denial will help when the evidence is stacked against you.

You are a snake in the grass.
Gotta say this is 100% on point
 
Read the laws in Canada about personal information. Privacy ect.

Second only have 1 bank account. He sent an e transfer which goes directly to the BANK account not crypto or PayPal. DUH. But the death threats and phone calls from having my personal information being uploaded on a public site is illegal in Canada and goes against various other laws. Like i said you’ll learn them soon enough
Are you threatening us? We'll learn them soon enough? What's that supposed to mean.

Setting up multiple bank accounts is pretty easy.

Kinda like taking pics in multiple bathrooms that way
 
I’m just asking for my personal information to be removed. Or the thread taken down in general as it holds personal information of both parties. I’ve contacted the admins it’s in their hands now wether or jit they take it down if not then I have no other choice. I’ve had 23 calls threatening to kill my family to rape my wife and to skit my kids throats. So yes believe me when I say my family comes first over this community. All I ask is the thread be taken down with all personal information. I mean come on if it wa ANY OF THE MODS FAMILY IT WOULD BE TAKEN DOWN ALREADY
Yea that's not cool.

If people here are calling you thats fucked and it needs to stop. This is just compounding a bad situation.

I'm sure they're working on getting the number taking down @Eddie Haskell @LevButlerov
 
Yea that's not cool.

If people here are calling you thats fucked and it needs to stop. This is just compounding a bad situation.

I'm sure they're working on getting the number taking down @Eddie Haskell @LevButlerov
Yeah number my first name that be great. Last name I don’t care about wrong last name but the first name and phone number would be deadly to have taken off.
 
Read the laws in Canada about personal information. Privacy ect.

Second only have 1 bank account. He sent an e transfer which goes directly to the BANK account not crypto or PayPal. DUH. But the death threats and phone calls from having my personal information being uploaded on a public site is illegal in Canada and goes against various other laws. Like i said you’ll learn them soon enough


Like i said you’ll learn them soon enough
OOOOOOOooooooooooooooo. *trembling* *can't catch breath* *looking around* *nervous* OOOOOOoooooooooooooooo LMAO :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

"Hi, RCMP? Ya I was trying to sell some Schedule III controlled drug and this guy says I screwed him over then called me and I have zero witnesses but he threatened me and my family".

I know how police work, good luck with that. And good luck with them not then getting a Feeney warrant to raid your own house for controlled drugs and substances. You want the RCMP following up with who you're accusing this of for his side of the story and the details? Ya ok Swaz.

I don't believe either of you with any details except you're guilty and MrW probably popped off and crossed a line which I know all about doing that and I get it. He has no excuse if he threatened your family but if I got ahold of a scammer on the phone I'd tell him I fear for his safety as well.
 
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OOOOOOOooooooooooooooo. *trembling* *can't catch breath* *looking around* *nervous* OOOOOOoooooooooooooooo LMAO :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

"Hi, RCMP? Ya I was trying to sell some Schedule III controlled drug and this guy says I screwed him over then called me and I have zero witnesses but he threatened me and my family".

I know how police work, good luck with that. And good luck with them not then getting a Feeney warrant to raid your own house for controlled drugs and substances. You want the RCMP following up with who you're accusing this of for his side of the story and the details? Ya ok Swaz.

I don't believe either of you with any details except you're guilty and MrW probably popped off and crossed a line which I know all about doing that and I get it. He has no excuse if he threatened your family but if I got ahold of a scammer on the phone I'd tell him I fear for his safety as well.
All good bro glad you know the law.
 
Second my name isn’t even Steven sawatsky totally different last name not the same person he did his deal with?
But you said this is not your name?
So what do we need to take down if it’s not your name and not your phone number. 😂
You should refund @MrWonderful the money you took or ship his package.
 
I want to thank @Eddie Haskell for tagging me and accusing me of being a part of this. Had he not done this I wouldn’t have enjoyed the last 12 or so hours on Evo as I likely wouldn’t have even seen this amazing thread.

Today is my birthday and this was a wonderful way to start it.

Many thanks everyone, truly.

Ps, if anyone wants to send me birthday vials lmk…
Steven? 😂
Happy birthday @BCGains :) I take back the things I said and thought of you.
Don’t call him this name it’s clearly not him, didn’t you read?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-big-waz-big-time-scammer.108111/post-1913498
 
But you said this is not your name?
So what do we need to take down if it’s not your name and not your phone number. 😂
You should refund @MrWonderful the money you took or ship his package.
Happy to hear its not his name, nothing we need to do at this point but suspend him for scamming.
I doubt he's going to return the money he took or ship, which is strange on his part.
 
I want to thank @Eddie Haskell for tagging me and accusing me of being a part of this. Had he not done this I wouldn’t have enjoyed the last 12 or so hours on Evo as I likely wouldn’t have even seen this amazing thread.

Today is my birthday and this was a wonderful way to start it.

Many thanks everyone, truly.

Ps, if anyone wants to send me birthday vials lmk…
Steven? 😂
Happy Birthday my brother @BCGains :D I know you and I never saw eye to eye but it's your special day and you really came out hard here with the investigation. I have new found love for you.
 
But you said this is not your name?
So what do we need to take down if it’s not your name and not your phone number. 😂
You should refund @MrWonderful the money you took or ship his package.
Not once did I not say it wasn’t my phone number. I said it wasn’t me talking to him in WhatsApp. Clearly you need glasses. All good it’ll be taken care of everything has been put into motion. I asked what happens next between the admins and legal from here on out
 
Thanks man, use code sst10 or fb10 for 10% off at growthguys
Happy 60th @BCGains

Hope GG upgrades the Hummer to a Range for this big milestone. Not everyone makes it to 60 years old so you have a lot to be proud of. Especially that physique at 60. Pretty remarkable
 
@Eddie Haskell @BeMe @HarleyGuy

Look I know it looks bad but he said he’s from Vancouver, he said he e transferred ne money and swears he talked to me in WhatsApp. I never had any conversations with him on WhatsApp. But what’s the odds that’s their another Steven sawatsky he’s claiming took his money and lives in the exact same city he does?? Not to mention my LAST NAME ISNT SAWATSKY
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I found this shirt online bigswaz, figured you’d like it.

Dude wearing it is huge tbh super intimidating. He’s like 6”5 260 atleast. Big dude same build as you. Figured youd rock something like this
 
Not once did I not say it wasn’t my phone number. I said it wasn’t me talking to him in WhatsApp. Clearly you need glasses. All good it’ll be taken care of everything has been put into motion. I asked what happens next between the admins and legal from here on out
You said it is not your name here, no issues.
Second my name isn’t even Steven sawatsky totally different last name not the same person he did his deal with? I would have directed him to either
And have your legal "team" review this 1st post where you're selling steroids via messenger
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-big-waz-big-time-scammer.108111/post-1912232

STEVEN SAWATSKY is a fucken bum ass scammer !! Don’t send this clown a dime! Guy fucken got me for over 2k I definitely should not have sent that much but I trusted him as he was tagged as a trusted seller!!!​

Honestly I'm really disappointed in your @Bigswaz , this is a sad day and you should be ashamed for what you did!
You stole and cheated someone, abused the trust of the community and used the word family in a very negative light here.
I'm sad to see you do this, really.
Further! to continue to play games and deny this is you is shameful! do you think we are fools?
I had respect and love for you, and I'm very sad today reading all this and how you can't man up and just admit this was you and you made a mistake.
You think no one here made mistakes? I spent time on the street as an alcoholic! I've made many! but you lying to your EVO brothers like this and continuing this fake facade that it's not you, come on! at least go out as a real man and admit your sins and take care of the many you wronged!
 
You said it is not your name here, no issues.

And have your legal "team" review this 1st post where you're selling steroids via messenger
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-big-waz-big-time-scammer.108111/post-1912232

Honestly I'm really disappointed in your @Bigswaz , this is a sad day and you should be ashamed for what you did!
You stole and cheated someone, abused the trust of the community and used the word family in a very negative light here.
I'm sad to see you do this, really.
Further! to continue to play games and deny this is you is shameful! do you think we are fools?
I had respect and love for you, and I'm very sad today reading all this and how you can't man up and just admit this was you and you made a mistake.
You think no one here made mistakes? I spent time on the street as an alcoholic! I've made many! but you lying to your EVO brothers like this and continuing this fake facade that it's not you, come on! at least go out as a real man and admit your sins and take care of the many you wronged!
Hey I’m just screen shotting ebeyrjing. Keep it up. Your website is the one allowing illegal Steriod being sold in Canada and your letting members post illegal content of people. Like I said it’s all between the admins and my Legal team now. Take care guys
 
Hey I’m just screen shotting ebeyrjing. Keep it up. Your website is the one allowing illegal Steriod being sold in Canada and your letting members post illegal content of people. Like I said it’s all between the admins and my Legal team now. Take care guys
Yes make sure you screen shot the posts on the 1st page of you selling steroids. That will be the closer @Bigswaz
Now I've truly lost respect for you. I used to call you a brother but you are really sad at this stage.
Goodbye my former brother, I wish you a good life. I hope you understand what you did is wrong and shameful. Karma will come back to you I'm sure.
 
Bigswaz suspended - 2025 scamming.

And that marks the end of this ride.

😞 ‘twas fun
I'll say in open what I told other mods. I am sad this happened. I really called @Bigswaz a brother and wanted to help him change his life. I had love for him like all my brothers.
I know he's reading and I hope he understands how bad this is for his karma. All he has to do is return the money to the person he took it from to settle this, but instead he played this shameful game with us.
I feel sad and ashamed he did this, abusing the EVO family to scam someone like this. It's shameful.
Stealing money from someone during Xmas season, just plain sad :(
 
Hey I’m just screen shotting ebeyrjing. Keep it up. Your website is the one allowing illegal Steriod being sold in Canada and your letting members post illegal content of people. Like I said it’s all between the admins and my Legal team now. Take care guys
Check this goof snitch out @BCGains

What a chump. He scams a dude then calls cops. He gets caught then calls cops....wtf kinda man is this

I'm no snitch, but fuk it. You know @Bigswaz was the main dude calling for you to be banned @BCGains

Then this goof is hitting you up for sources and scamming members. Seriously wtf
 
All this calling cops and contacting lawyers are all fabrics of the douchebags delusional imaginary mind.

99% of what he's posted in this thread is pretty run of the mill scammer trying to make up elaborate shit about how their getting framed etc and when that doesn't work it's the good old "I'm leaving myself!" then when dat don't work it's stamping down with the imaginary legal threats lmao.

Pure comedy gold :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
Check this goof snitch out @BCGains

What a chump. He scams a dude then calls cops. He gets caught then calls cops....wtf kinda man is this

I'm no snitch, but fuk it. You know @Bigswaz was the main dude calling for you to be banned @BCGains

Then this goof is hitting you up for sources and scamming members. Seriously wtf
See, I had a hunch I hate 2 faced people. Gave him a good source for nothing lmao.
 
All this calling cops and contacting lawyers are all fabrics of the douchebags delusional imaginary mind.

99% of what he's posted in this thread is pretty run of the mill scammer trying to make up elaborate shit about how their getting framed etc and when that doesn't work it's the good old "I'm leaving myself!" then when dat don't work it's stamping down with the imaginary legal threats lmao.

Pure comedy gold :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Right? Like bro I see your kitchen table ain’t no way you got money for a retainer selling kangen water machines and scamming for 2k.
 
See, I had a hunch I hate 2 faced people. Gave him a good source for nothing lmao.
The funny thing is you called it out with him a few days ago when he said something on a post.. who knew how right u turned out being about him
 
I’m right about everything bro trust me 😉
He had said something about a source nd looked like he was trying to toss u under the bus from what i remember and u gave him the benefit of the doubt... then he pulls this today
 
He had said something about a source nd looked like he was trying to toss u under the bus from what i remember and u gave him the benefit of the doubt... then he pulls this today
Yeah I know what you are referring to. He responded “don’t worry I’m staying away from him” him as in me.

Yet he’s in my DMs talking sources and agreeing with me telling me he has my side but everytime he posts on a thread he wanted to come off neutral or lowkey throw shots at me to be in good standing with the mods. I notice all of this.

Honestly, he probably had a plan to befriend me and scam me too who knows.

He wanted to be in your good side as well so you all give him the benefit of doubt that he was a good guy and mrwonderful is lying but unfortunately that all unravelled rather quickly for him.

It’s honestly too bad that the outcome is he made 2k at the expense of another person and moved on. Feels bad for MrW very unfortunate, and I don’t blame him for dming the members tagged under lev, you have to understand people don’t know this shit, they assume you are tagging verified sources.

Probably need to be careful with that one.
 
Yeah I know what you are referring to. He responded “don’t worry I’m staying away from him” him as in me.

Yet he’s in my DMs talking sources and agreeing with me telling me he has my side but everytime he posts on a thread he wanted to come off neutral or lowkey throw shots at me to be in good standing with the mods. I notice all of this.

Honestly, he probably had a plan to befriend me and scam me too who knows.

He wanted to be in your good side as well so you all give him the benefit of doubt that he was a good guy and mrwonderful is lying but unfortunately that all unravelled rather quickly for him.

It’s honestly too bad that the outcome is he made 2k at the expense of another person and moved on. Feels bad for MrW very unfortunate, and I don’t blame him for dming the members tagged under lev, you have to understand people don’t know this shit, they assume you are tagging verified sources.

Probably need to be careful with that one.
Well you finally got to see a good amount of us in action typically if it is a high priority we try and take care of it as effectively as possible, i wasn't taking his side at all, i just speak what i know or feel is factually and logically correct emotions aside.

We try and be fair around here sometimes we fight or have disagreements like anything in life, if you stick around and prove you are a solid person typically we will have your back and do our best to protect and help members in the community.

I caught that myself since that day you both solved it i just let it rock and didn't say anything, after today action was needed.

Its why i dont jump the gun and judge people out the gate i let character and actions speak before i do.

Yeah its unfortunate scumbag people exist in this space and many other spaces, i agree when i was green it was alot to learn and watch out for, i was lucky enough having people teach me and show me red flags and other things about the game.
 
This is wonderful lol. Lesson learned never try and help anyone. If you’re going to ban me please just get it over with. I’m done defending myself and wasting my breath. I’m done responding I’ll let legal action take its rightful place. If you don’t decide to ban me thank you, if you do ban me I just want to say thank you for letting me be apart of the community. I enjoyed my time here and I never ment for anything like this to happen.
Scammer!!!
 
See, I had a hunch I hate 2 faced people. Gave him a good source for nothing lmao.
Now your source is gonna be part of his scam network lol

Hopefully he doesn't use you as a reference with that source
 
Scammer!!!
Man you did this to yourself though. Your logic about why you contacted him was so stupid. Be hoenst with yourself and us, you were just trying to save a buck. It's obvious from your message chain with Swaz that that's what was going on.

Take the second L and learn your lesson. Stick to trusted sources, not random guys on the internet. If you're ever unsure about a source do and quick search here and see what comes up. Or start a thread. You will get endless amounts of help here to avoid situations like these as long as you don't like greed rule your logic.

We have a trusted sources section, I sent you Nordic fusions info, you're well equipped to avoid this type of stuff moving forward.
 
Man you did this to yourself though. Your logic about why you contacted him was so stupid. Be hoenst with yourself and us, you were just trying to save a buck. It's obvious from your message chain with Swaz that that's what was going on.

Take the second L and learn your lesson. Stick to trusted sources, not random guys on the internet. If you're ever unsure about a source do and quick search here and see what comes up. Or start a thread. You will get endless amounts of help here to avoid situations like these as long as you don't like greed rule your logic.

We have a trusted sources section, I sent you Nordic fusions info, you're well equipped to avoid this type of stuff moving forward.
As they say... You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink it.

Clear case here
 
Thank you,

That’s toobad, I wanted to send him some champion branded t shirts. I know he likes them.
Happy birthday bro we duked it out good and hard on here both you and I over many issues but I like how the punchline of it all was you pulling out a Dateline level investigative report and nailing Swaz's coffin on this issue. Well done and Happy birthday! @BCGains
 
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