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WillyT

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11:27 AM
EVO Crew!

First log. This feels like an auto-dump but it has been quite a useful and cathartic process. It shows me I have actually come quite far. Also, some of it may be a little off topic but useful for others.

Age 45
Loc Sydney, Australia.
Height 196cm, 6' 5"
Weight 96kg, 211lbs (down from 132kg, 291 lb as at 1 Jul 2024).
BF% 20% using Evolt Body Scanner.



Current regime

All injectables are currently subq.

TRT 150 mg/week split MON, WED, FRI.
HGH 2IU AM daily.

Retatrutide 2500mcg/week.
Glow70 4IU daily.
MT2 currently EOD for summer.

Tadalafil5mg+VitD3600iu+Zinc15mg EOD.

Semax 600mcg daily.
Methylene Blue 3 drops.
Creatine 2g daily.
(all see cognitive)

Clonadine 100mcg.
Solifenacin Succinate ("Vesicare") 5mg .
Melatonin modified release. 10mg.
(all see sleep)

Meloxicam 15mg daily (see injuries).

Multivitamin
Vitamin D
Potassium
Magnesium morning and sleep time.


Bloods
Most recent bloods are TRT 135mg/w and HGH 2IUs per day.
As above I have since returned to TRT 150 mg/w and my overall disposition has improved.



DateTotal T (nmol/L)Free T (pmol/L)Estradiol (pmol/L)LH / FSHLDL (mmol/L)Trigs (mmol/L)HctNeutrophils (×10⁹/L)ALT / AST (U/L)Glucose (mmol/L)Notes
27 Jul 202313.6303162 ↑3.01.80.443.7ALT 34 / AST 254.8Pre TRT.
17 Nov 202347.7 ↑1411 ↑126LH <1 / FSH <13.1 ↑2.3 ↑0.462.1ALT 33 / AST 285.1Test 150mg/w (split2) +HCG+Exemestane.
Jan 202427.1860 ↑98LH <1 / FSH ~13.3 ↑2.2 ↑0.453.1ALT 27 / AST 244.9Switched providers. There was no pause. Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Jul 202443.0 ↑1244 ↑362 ↑↑LH <1 / FSH <12.51.40.462.1ALT 25 / AST 245.1Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Aug 202450.9 ↑1380 ↑299 ↑LH <1 / FSH <12.41.00.472.1ALT 26 / AST 245.2Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Mar 202541.2 ↑1162 ↑252 ↑LH <1 / FSH <12.61.10.461.7 ↓ALT 23 / AST 245.2Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Jul 202538.1 ↑957 ↑278 ↑LH <1 / FSH <11.40.471.8 ↓ALT 23 / AST 244.9Clinic drops TRT to 135mg/w.
4 Dec 2025 26.3624185LH <0.1 / FSH <12.20.80.461.8 ↓ALT 26 / AST 294.0+HGH 2IU. TRT @ 135mg/w.


Diet

Noticed great improvement in my bloods once I really cleaned up my act here. Still lots to learn and much to implement. This change for me was from Jul 2025 onwards only. Prior it was just whatever kept me under the macros.

The increased carbs is in line with the start of HGH and post the TRT Clinic dropping of my Test C to see if it made a difference to my mood. Energy up but no improvement in mood.

From 120+ kgs down to 98kgs I was on a reasonably severe calory deficit and I broke it often which told me it wasn't quite what I needed.

Currently I am on a training day, non-training day split. Lost about 2kg since being on this and feel more capable.


CaloriesProteinCarbsFat
Training~2,800210–230 g260–320 g60–80 g
Light / Rest2,300–2,400190–210 g150–200 g70–90 g



Injuries

A lot of poorly dealt with injuries from previous career. There are some contact injuries but it appears to mostly be chronic traction/overuse.

Mortons neuroma: I cannot feel most of the front 1/3 of my feet. It becomes particularly bad 20k+ steps.
Left shoulder: popped in and out multiple times in my 20s. Was never dealt with properly and has never truly sat right ever since. This is largely managed by me now. It works and I can train with it. It is next on my list of broken shit to be looked at next (further discussed in aesthetics).

Knees: loose bone fragments and ossific spurring at many of the attachments.
Hips: there is some bone remodelling there. There is limited space between the "socket" and the inner topmost part of the ball in my left hip.

The knees are only ever painful when my hip is playing up. This has gone on for decades but has been extremely painful recently to the point where I cannot manage it myself. Its now being managed by a physician and surgeon. I am cleared to train with limitations. The meloxicam was instantly helpful for the pain. It is a trial and a stopgap prior to MRI and next consult.

There are other injuries but the above is what I consider limits my training.

All this is to say if you see some odd crap in my program, the above is probably why it is there.



Training

Combination of hypertrophy and pre/re-hab training.

Day 1 Upper push
Day 2 Quads + calves
Day 3 Push chest delts tris
Day 4 Pull back biceps
Day 5 Hams + glutes
Day 6 Upper pull
Day 7 rest/active recovery

I train in my home gym. It will do the job for the foreseeable future especially with my injury restrictions. The only piece of equipment I truly miss is a seated leg curl machine and leg press. My Force USA G20 uses the foot plate that clicks onto the smith machine bar. It feels sketch.

My restrictions will not preclude me from lifting heavy (for where I'm at now). Trained heavily throughout my teens, 20s and 30s with most of the fat gain in the last 6 years.

On my shopping list is an elliptical. I do no true cardio. I used to pull a sled, particularly backwards was usually very good for my knees and hips. Steps forwards 10k+ really aggravates my situation unfortunately. I do backwards walking on my treadmill. Its not really cardio, more prehab. Nowhere near as good as the sled work in my old gym.


Cognitive and mood

I am very likely undiagnosed depression and ADHD. For better or for worse I present as totally fine and my GP treats me as such. I will admit to having tried my childs 10mg Ritalin on multiple occasions. Apparently this is quite common and how adults end up getting themselves tested and on that train. If my mood is so low (and its not that often) I will not self start, I will use it. I have not had to use it since my creatine, methylene blue and semax regime which has been over two months now.

I realise the methylene blue may be hitting tinfoil hat levels for most and having seen the footage of RFK Junior smashing the piss out of it, I was quite suspicious. All I can say is if it weren't working for me I wouldn’t still be doing it. The Semax by itself did not seem to do much for me. Certainly not against Ritalin. However, I do note greater capacity to concentrate and importantly FINISH tasks whilst on it.

As an aside and in case someone is dealing with this: I was very apprehensive about "drugging" my primary school child. However, they have gone from a very much at risk student (some of the details would frighten any parent) to one of the top performers. That tiny dose of ritalin (along with the right guidance and leadership of course) straightened my child up just enough to give them the space to breath, operate and most importantly believe in their own ability and understand their own worth. Not preaching just putting it out there.


Sleep

I am winning here after decades of struggles. Started when I shift-worked in my 20s. Seemed "doable" until I got a wife, child and responsibility!

Initial sleep study 2024: ~80 RDI and AHI: 477 apneas, mostly obstructive, 140 hypopneas.
Conclusion: "very severe obstructive sleep apnoea with severe accompanying oxygen desaturation".
Their solution: a $3500 CPAP setup. I didn’t qualify so had to pay for it out of pocket. It did nothing to help and I could not use it.
An x-ray later an ENT was repairing a broken nose I didn’t know I had and he shaved the turbinates to make even more room. I now have to Fighter jet intakes.

I do use the CPAP now. Mostly to monitor and collect data. I need to assess its efficacy re: Blood oxygen.

The clonidine melatonin combination gets me to sleep. Clonidine is a hypertensive becoming popular for ADHD "sufferers" and their sleeping woes. I have high normal BP.

The Vesicare is an overactive bladder medication. I would often wake at 2,3am like a lot of people and then not be able to head back to sleep. Having found no renal issues my GP agreed to try Vesicare to see if retraining myself and a potentially OAB would work. Only been on this for two weeks but there have been a few nights where I have slept through. This is a WIP but looking promising.

Aesthetics

I have a lot of assymterical vascularity: differing on front and back, left and right appendages. Other than that I would say I look very similar to @RizzleDizzle from his first log except I have some side saddles and my rolled left shoulder gives me side boob. I cannot hold the shoulder in a posture that makes it look completely normal and reasonably symmetrical. My solution: continued fat loss and increase chest and lat etc. My skin has bounced back for the most part. I really have made a mess of my body not prioritising myself but onwards and upwards.

Proposed cycle

12 weeks

400mg/week Test E. **I have a vial of Clinic Test C remaining. Use or shelve?
200mg EQ weekly.

2IU HGH daily AM ongoing.

Blood test every 4 weeks.

To do list

Rework vitamin supps, investigate liver support, -biotics, AI(?) and TB5080+BPC157 (have on hand). Cardio!

Thank you for reading!
 
11:27 AM
EVO Crew!

First log. This feels like an auto-dump but it has been quite a useful and cathartic process. It shows me I have actually come quite far. Also, some of it may be a little off topic but useful for others.

Age 45
Loc Sydney, Australia.
Height 196cm, 6' 5"
Weight 96kg, 211lbs (down from 132kg, 291 lb as at 1 Jul 2024).
BF% 20% using Evolt Body Scanner.




Current regime

All injectables are currently subq.

TRT 150 mg/week split MON, WED, FRI.
HGH 2IU AM daily.


Retatrutide 2500mcg/week.
Glow70 4IU daily.
MT2 currently EOD for summer.


Tadalafil5mg+VitD3600iu+Zinc15mg EOD.

Semax 600mcg daily.
Methylene Blue 3 drops.
Creatine 2g daily.
(all see cognitive)


Clonadine 100mcg.
Solifenacin Succinate ("Vesicare") 5mg .
Melatonin modified release. 10mg.
(all see sleep)


Meloxicam 15mg daily (see injuries).

Multivitamin
Vitamin D
Potassium
Magnesium morning and sleep time.



Bloods
Most recent bloods are TRT 135mg/w and HGH 2IUs per day.
As above I have since returned to TRT 150 mg/w and my overall disposition has improved.




DateTotal T (nmol/L)Free T (pmol/L)Estradiol (pmol/L)LH / FSHLDL (mmol/L)Trigs (mmol/L)HctNeutrophils (×10⁹/L)ALT / AST (U/L)Glucose (mmol/L)Notes
27 Jul 202313.6303162 ↑3.01.80.443.7ALT 34 / AST 254.8Pre TRT.
17 Nov 202347.7 ↑1411 ↑126LH <1 / FSH <13.1 ↑2.3 ↑0.462.1ALT 33 / AST 285.1Test 150mg/w (split2) +HCG+Exemestane.
Jan 202427.1860 ↑98LH <1 / FSH ~13.3 ↑2.2 ↑0.453.1ALT 27 / AST 244.9Switched providers. There was no pause. Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Jul 202443.0 ↑1244 ↑362 ↑↑LH <1 / FSH <12.51.40.462.1ALT 25 / AST 245.1Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Aug 202450.9 ↑1380 ↑299 ↑LH <1 / FSH <12.41.00.472.1ALT 26 / AST 245.2Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Mar 202541.2 ↑1162 ↑252 ↑LH <1 / FSH <12.61.10.461.7 ↓ALT 23 / AST 245.2Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Jul 202538.1 ↑957 ↑278 ↑LH <1 / FSH <11.40.471.8 ↓ALT 23 / AST 244.9Clinic drops TRT to 135mg/w.
4 Dec 2025 26.3624185LH <0.1 / FSH <12.20.80.461.8 ↓ALT 26 / AST 294.0+HGH 2IU. TRT @ 135mg/w.


Diet

Noticed great improvement in my bloods once I really cleaned up my act here. Still lots to learn and much to implement. This change for me was from Jul 2025 onwards only. Prior it was just whatever kept me under the macros.

The increased carbs is in line with the start of HGH and post the TRT Clinic dropping of my Test C to see if it made a difference to my mood. Energy up but no improvement in mood.

From 120+ kgs down to 98kgs I was on a reasonably severe calory deficit and I broke it often which told me it wasn't quite what I needed.

Currently I am on a training day, non-training day split. Lost about 2kg since being on this and feel more capable.


CaloriesProteinCarbsFat
Training~2,800210–230 g260–320 g60–80 g
Light / Rest2,300–2,400190–210 g150–200 g70–90 g



Injuries

A lot of poorly dealt with injuries from previous career. There are some contact injuries but it appears to mostly be chronic traction/overuse.

Mortons neuroma: I cannot feel most of the front 1/3 of my feet. It becomes particularly bad 20k+ steps.
Left shoulder: popped in and out multiple times in my 20s. Was never dealt with properly and has never truly sat right ever since. This is largely managed by me now. It works and I can train with it. It is next on my list of broken shit to be looked at next (further discussed in aesthetics).


Knees: loose bone fragments and ossific spurring at many of the attachments.
Hips: there is some bone remodelling there. There is limited space between the "socket" and the inner topmost part of the ball in my left hip.


The knees are only ever painful when my hip is playing up. This has gone on for decades but has been extremely painful recently to the point where I cannot manage it myself. Its now being managed by a physician and surgeon. I am cleared to train with limitations. The meloxicam was instantly helpful for the pain. It is a trial and a stopgap prior to MRI and next consult.

There are other injuries but the above is what I consider limits my training.

All this is to say if you see some odd crap in my program, the above is probably why it is there.



Training

Combination of hypertrophy and pre/re-hab training.

Day 1 Upper push
Day 2 Quads + calves
Day 3 Push chest delts tris
Day 4 Pull back biceps
Day 5 Hams + glutes
Day 6 Upper pull
Day 7 rest/active recovery


I train in my home gym. It will do the job for the foreseeable future especially with my injury restrictions. The only piece of equipment I truly miss is a seated leg curl machine and leg press. My Force USA G20 uses the foot plate that clicks onto the smith machine bar. It feels sketch.

My restrictions will not preclude me from lifting heavy (for where I'm at now). Trained heavily throughout my teens, 20s and 30s with most of the fat gain in the last 6 years.

On my shopping list is an elliptical. I do no true cardio. I used to pull a sled, particularly backwards was usually very good for my knees and hips. Steps forwards 10k+ really aggravates my situation unfortunately. I do backwards walking on my treadmill. Its not really cardio, more prehab. Nowhere near as good as the sled work in my old gym.


Cognitive and mood

I am very likely undiagnosed depression and ADHD. For better or for worse I present as totally fine and my GP treats me as such. I will admit to having tried my childs 10mg Ritalin on multiple occasions. Apparently this is quite common and how adults end up getting themselves tested and on that train. If my mood is so low (and its not that often) I will not self start, I will use it. I have not had to use it since my creatine, methylene blue and semax regime which has been over two months now.

I realise the methylene blue may be hitting tinfoil hat levels for most and having seen the footage of RFK Junior smashing the piss out of it, I was quite suspicious. All I can say is if it weren't working for me I wouldn’t still be doing it. The Semax by itself did not seem to do much for me. Certainly not against Ritalin. However, I do note greater capacity to concentrate and importantly FINISH tasks whilst on it.

As an aside and in case someone is dealing with this: I was very apprehensive about "drugging" my primary school child. However, they have gone from a very much at risk student (some of the details would frighten any parent) to one of the top performers. That tiny dose of ritalin (along with the right guidance and leadership of course) straightened my child up just enough to give them the space to breath, operate and most importantly believe in their own ability and understand their own worth. Not preaching just putting it out there.


Sleep

I am winning here after decades of struggles. Started when I shift-worked in my 20s. Seemed "doable" until I got a wife, child and responsibility!

Initial sleep study 2024: ~80 RDI and AHI: 477 apneas, mostly obstructive, 140 hypopneas.
Conclusion: "very severe obstructive sleep apnoea with severe accompanying oxygen desaturation".
Their solution: a $3500 CPAP setup. I didn’t qualify so had to pay for it out of pocket. It did nothing to help and I could not use it.
An x-ray later an ENT was repairing a broken nose I didn’t know I had and he shaved the turbinates to make even more room. I now have to Fighter jet intakes.


I do use the CPAP now. Mostly to monitor and collect data. I need to assess its efficacy re: Blood oxygen.

The clonidine melatonin combination gets me to sleep. Clonidine is a hypertensive becoming popular for ADHD "sufferers" and their sleeping woes. I have high normal BP.

The Vesicare is an overactive bladder medication. I would often wake at 2,3am like a lot of people and then not be able to head back to sleep. Having found no renal issues my GP agreed to try Vesicare to see if retraining myself and a potentially OAB would work. Only been on this for two weeks but there have been a few nights where I have slept through. This is a WIP but looking promising.

Aesthetics

I have a lot of assymterical vascularity: differing on front and back, left and right appendages. Other than that I would say I look very similar to @RizzleDizzle from his first log except I have some side saddles and my rolled left shoulder gives me side boob. I cannot hold the shoulder in a posture that makes it look completely normal and reasonably symmetrical. My solution: continued fat loss and increase chest and lat etc. My skin has bounced back for the most part. I really have made a mess of my body not prioritising myself but onwards and upwards.

Proposed cycle

12 weeks

400mg/week Test E. **I have a vial of Clinic Test C remaining. Use or shelve?
200mg EQ weekly.


2IU HGH daily AM ongoing.

Blood test every 4 weeks.

To do list

Rework vitamin supps, investigate liver support, -biotics, AI(?) and TB5080+BPC157 (have on hand). Cardio!

Thank you for reading!
welcome to the EVO family fully @WillyT before we approve the log please share pic of you with your face blurred, so we can see your base and understand you better, it's a must for a log :D
 
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11:27 AM
EVO Crew!

First log. This feels like an auto-dump but it has been quite a useful and cathartic process. It shows me I have actually come quite far. Also, some of it may be a little off topic but useful for others.

Age 45
Loc Sydney, Australia.
Height 196cm, 6' 5"
Weight 96kg, 211lbs (down from 132kg, 291 lb as at 1 Jul 2024).
BF% 20% using Evolt Body Scanner.




Current regime

All injectables are currently subq.

TRT 150 mg/week split MON, WED, FRI.
HGH 2IU AM daily.


Retatrutide 2500mcg/week.
Glow70 4IU daily.
MT2 currently EOD for summer.


Tadalafil5mg+VitD3600iu+Zinc15mg EOD.

Semax 600mcg daily.
Methylene Blue 3 drops.
Creatine 2g daily.
(all see cognitive)


Clonadine 100mcg.
Solifenacin Succinate ("Vesicare") 5mg .
Melatonin modified release. 10mg.
(all see sleep)


Meloxicam 15mg daily (see injuries).

Multivitamin
Vitamin D
Potassium
Magnesium morning and sleep time.



Bloods
Most recent bloods are TRT 135mg/w and HGH 2IUs per day.
As above I have since returned to TRT 150 mg/w and my overall disposition has improved.




DateTotal T (nmol/L)Free T (pmol/L)Estradiol (pmol/L)LH / FSHLDL (mmol/L)Trigs (mmol/L)HctNeutrophils (×10⁹/L)ALT / AST (U/L)Glucose (mmol/L)Notes
27 Jul 202313.6303162 ↑3.01.80.443.7ALT 34 / AST 254.8Pre TRT.
17 Nov 202347.7 ↑1411 ↑126LH <1 / FSH <13.1 ↑2.3 ↑0.462.1ALT 33 / AST 285.1Test 150mg/w (split2) +HCG+Exemestane.
Jan 202427.1860 ↑98LH <1 / FSH ~13.3 ↑2.2 ↑0.453.1ALT 27 / AST 244.9Switched providers. There was no pause. Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Jul 202443.0 ↑1244 ↑362 ↑↑LH <1 / FSH <12.51.40.462.1ALT 25 / AST 245.1Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Aug 202450.9 ↑1380 ↑299 ↑LH <1 / FSH <12.41.00.472.1ALT 26 / AST 245.2Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Mar 202541.2 ↑1162 ↑252 ↑LH <1 / FSH <12.61.10.461.7 ↓ALT 23 / AST 245.2Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Jul 202538.1 ↑957 ↑278 ↑LH <1 / FSH <11.40.471.8 ↓ALT 23 / AST 244.9Clinic drops TRT to 135mg/w.
4 Dec 2025 26.3624185LH <0.1 / FSH <12.20.80.461.8 ↓ALT 26 / AST 294.0+HGH 2IU. TRT @ 135mg/w.


Diet

Noticed great improvement in my bloods once I really cleaned up my act here. Still lots to learn and much to implement. This change for me was from Jul 2025 onwards only. Prior it was just whatever kept me under the macros.

The increased carbs is in line with the start of HGH and post the TRT Clinic dropping of my Test C to see if it made a difference to my mood. Energy up but no improvement in mood.

From 120+ kgs down to 98kgs I was on a reasonably severe calory deficit and I broke it often which told me it wasn't quite what I needed.

Currently I am on a training day, non-training day split. Lost about 2kg since being on this and feel more capable.


CaloriesProteinCarbsFat
Training~2,800210–230 g260–320 g60–80 g
Light / Rest2,300–2,400190–210 g150–200 g70–90 g



Injuries

A lot of poorly dealt with injuries from previous career. There are some contact injuries but it appears to mostly be chronic traction/overuse.

Mortons neuroma: I cannot feel most of the front 1/3 of my feet. It becomes particularly bad 20k+ steps.
Left shoulder: popped in and out multiple times in my 20s. Was never dealt with properly and has never truly sat right ever since. This is largely managed by me now. It works and I can train with it. It is next on my list of broken shit to be looked at next (further discussed in aesthetics).


Knees: loose bone fragments and ossific spurring at many of the attachments.
Hips: there is some bone remodelling there. There is limited space between the "socket" and the inner topmost part of the ball in my left hip.


The knees are only ever painful when my hip is playing up. This has gone on for decades but has been extremely painful recently to the point where I cannot manage it myself. Its now being managed by a physician and surgeon. I am cleared to train with limitations. The meloxicam was instantly helpful for the pain. It is a trial and a stopgap prior to MRI and next consult.

There are other injuries but the above is what I consider limits my training.

All this is to say if you see some odd crap in my program, the above is probably why it is there.



Training

Combination of hypertrophy and pre/re-hab training.

Day 1 Upper push
Day 2 Quads + calves
Day 3 Push chest delts tris
Day 4 Pull back biceps
Day 5 Hams + glutes
Day 6 Upper pull
Day 7 rest/active recovery


I train in my home gym. It will do the job for the foreseeable future especially with my injury restrictions. The only piece of equipment I truly miss is a seated leg curl machine and leg press. My Force USA G20 uses the foot plate that clicks onto the smith machine bar. It feels sketch.

My restrictions will not preclude me from lifting heavy (for where I'm at now). Trained heavily throughout my teens, 20s and 30s with most of the fat gain in the last 6 years.

On my shopping list is an elliptical. I do no true cardio. I used to pull a sled, particularly backwards was usually very good for my knees and hips. Steps forwards 10k+ really aggravates my situation unfortunately. I do backwards walking on my treadmill. Its not really cardio, more prehab. Nowhere near as good as the sled work in my old gym.


Cognitive and mood

I am very likely undiagnosed depression and ADHD. For better or for worse I present as totally fine and my GP treats me as such. I will admit to having tried my childs 10mg Ritalin on multiple occasions. Apparently this is quite common and how adults end up getting themselves tested and on that train. If my mood is so low (and its not that often) I will not self start, I will use it. I have not had to use it since my creatine, methylene blue and semax regime which has been over two months now.

I realise the methylene blue may be hitting tinfoil hat levels for most and having seen the footage of RFK Junior smashing the piss out of it, I was quite suspicious. All I can say is if it weren't working for me I wouldn’t still be doing it. The Semax by itself did not seem to do much for me. Certainly not against Ritalin. However, I do note greater capacity to concentrate and importantly FINISH tasks whilst on it.

As an aside and in case someone is dealing with this: I was very apprehensive about "drugging" my primary school child. However, they have gone from a very much at risk student (some of the details would frighten any parent) to one of the top performers. That tiny dose of ritalin (along with the right guidance and leadership of course) straightened my child up just enough to give them the space to breath, operate and most importantly believe in their own ability and understand their own worth. Not preaching just putting it out there.


Sleep

I am winning here after decades of struggles. Started when I shift-worked in my 20s. Seemed "doable" until I got a wife, child and responsibility!

Initial sleep study 2024: ~80 RDI and AHI: 477 apneas, mostly obstructive, 140 hypopneas.
Conclusion: "very severe obstructive sleep apnoea with severe accompanying oxygen desaturation".
Their solution: a $3500 CPAP setup. I didn’t qualify so had to pay for it out of pocket. It did nothing to help and I could not use it.
An x-ray later an ENT was repairing a broken nose I didn’t know I had and he shaved the turbinates to make even more room. I now have to Fighter jet intakes.


I do use the CPAP now. Mostly to monitor and collect data. I need to assess its efficacy re: Blood oxygen.

The clonidine melatonin combination gets me to sleep. Clonidine is a hypertensive becoming popular for ADHD "sufferers" and their sleeping woes. I have high normal BP.

The Vesicare is an overactive bladder medication. I would often wake at 2,3am like a lot of people and then not be able to head back to sleep. Having found no renal issues my GP agreed to try Vesicare to see if retraining myself and a potentially OAB would work. Only been on this for two weeks but there have been a few nights where I have slept through. This is a WIP but looking promising.

Aesthetics

I have a lot of assymterical vascularity: differing on front and back, left and right appendages. Other than that I would say I look very similar to @RizzleDizzle from his first log except I have some side saddles and my rolled left shoulder gives me side boob. I cannot hold the shoulder in a posture that makes it look completely normal and reasonably symmetrical. My solution: continued fat loss and increase chest and lat etc. My skin has bounced back for the most part. I really have made a mess of my body not prioritising myself but onwards and upwards.

Proposed cycle

12 weeks

400mg/week Test E. **I have a vial of Clinic Test C remaining. Use or shelve?
200mg EQ weekly.


2IU HGH daily AM ongoing.

Blood test every 4 weeks.

To do list

Rework vitamin supps, investigate liver support, -biotics, AI(?) and TB5080+BPC157 (have on hand). Cardio!

Thank you for reading!
now fully welcome to the EVO family :D @WillyT you have a good base in your pics, strong size :D thank you for sharing.

To start your TRT and injuries are a real issue and we need to play that into the log.
can you post the actual latest bloods with your info blurred please?

We need to start tracking your day to day at least 2 weeks to really get a base line.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
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11:27 AM
EVO Crew!

First log. This feels like an auto-dump but it has been quite a useful and cathartic process. It shows me I have actually come quite far. Also, some of it may be a little off topic but useful for others.

Age 45
Loc Sydney, Australia.
Height 196cm, 6' 5"
Weight 96kg, 211lbs (down from 132kg, 291 lb as at 1 Jul 2024).
BF% 20% using Evolt Body Scanner.




Current regime

All injectables are currently subq.

TRT 150 mg/week split MON, WED, FRI.
HGH 2IU AM daily.


Retatrutide 2500mcg/week.
Glow70 4IU daily.
MT2 currently EOD for summer.


Tadalafil5mg+VitD3600iu+Zinc15mg EOD.

Semax 600mcg daily.
Methylene Blue 3 drops.
Creatine 2g daily.
(all see cognitive)


Clonadine 100mcg.
Solifenacin Succinate ("Vesicare") 5mg .
Melatonin modified release. 10mg.
(all see sleep)


Meloxicam 15mg daily (see injuries).

Multivitamin
Vitamin D
Potassium
Magnesium morning and sleep time.



Bloods
Most recent bloods are TRT 135mg/w and HGH 2IUs per day.
As above I have since returned to TRT 150 mg/w and my overall disposition has improved.




DateTotal T (nmol/L)Free T (pmol/L)Estradiol (pmol/L)LH / FSHLDL (mmol/L)Trigs (mmol/L)HctNeutrophils (×10⁹/L)ALT / AST (U/L)Glucose (mmol/L)Notes
27 Jul 202313.6303162 ↑3.01.80.443.7ALT 34 / AST 254.8Pre TRT.
17 Nov 202347.7 ↑1411 ↑126LH <1 / FSH <13.1 ↑2.3 ↑0.462.1ALT 33 / AST 285.1Test 150mg/w (split2) +HCG+Exemestane.
Jan 202427.1860 ↑98LH <1 / FSH ~13.3 ↑2.2 ↑0.453.1ALT 27 / AST 244.9Switched providers. There was no pause. Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Jul 202443.0 ↑1244 ↑362 ↑↑LH <1 / FSH <12.51.40.462.1ALT 25 / AST 245.1Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Aug 202450.9 ↑1380 ↑299 ↑LH <1 / FSH <12.41.00.472.1ALT 26 / AST 245.2Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Mar 202541.2 ↑1162 ↑252 ↑LH <1 / FSH <12.61.10.461.7 ↓ALT 23 / AST 245.2Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Jul 202538.1 ↑957 ↑278 ↑LH <1 / FSH <11.40.471.8 ↓ALT 23 / AST 244.9Clinic drops TRT to 135mg/w.
4 Dec 2025 26.3624185LH <0.1 / FSH <12.20.80.461.8 ↓ALT 26 / AST 294.0+HGH 2IU. TRT @ 135mg/w.


Diet

Noticed great improvement in my bloods once I really cleaned up my act here. Still lots to learn and much to implement. This change for me was from Jul 2025 onwards only. Prior it was just whatever kept me under the macros.

The increased carbs is in line with the start of HGH and post the TRT Clinic dropping of my Test C to see if it made a difference to my mood. Energy up but no improvement in mood.

From 120+ kgs down to 98kgs I was on a reasonably severe calory deficit and I broke it often which told me it wasn't quite what I needed.

Currently I am on a training day, non-training day split. Lost about 2kg since being on this and feel more capable.


CaloriesProteinCarbsFat
Training~2,800210–230 g260–320 g60–80 g
Light / Rest2,300–2,400190–210 g150–200 g70–90 g



Injuries

A lot of poorly dealt with injuries from previous career. There are some contact injuries but it appears to mostly be chronic traction/overuse.

Mortons neuroma: I cannot feel most of the front 1/3 of my feet. It becomes particularly bad 20k+ steps.
Left shoulder: popped in and out multiple times in my 20s. Was never dealt with properly and has never truly sat right ever since. This is largely managed by me now. It works and I can train with it. It is next on my list of broken shit to be looked at next (further discussed in aesthetics).


Knees: loose bone fragments and ossific spurring at many of the attachments.
Hips: there is some bone remodelling there. There is limited space between the "socket" and the inner topmost part of the ball in my left hip.


The knees are only ever painful when my hip is playing up. This has gone on for decades but has been extremely painful recently to the point where I cannot manage it myself. Its now being managed by a physician and surgeon. I am cleared to train with limitations. The meloxicam was instantly helpful for the pain. It is a trial and a stopgap prior to MRI and next consult.

There are other injuries but the above is what I consider limits my training.

All this is to say if you see some odd crap in my program, the above is probably why it is there.



Training

Combination of hypertrophy and pre/re-hab training.

Day 1 Upper push
Day 2 Quads + calves
Day 3 Push chest delts tris
Day 4 Pull back biceps
Day 5 Hams + glutes
Day 6 Upper pull
Day 7 rest/active recovery


I train in my home gym. It will do the job for the foreseeable future especially with my injury restrictions. The only piece of equipment I truly miss is a seated leg curl machine and leg press. My Force USA G20 uses the foot plate that clicks onto the smith machine bar. It feels sketch.

My restrictions will not preclude me from lifting heavy (for where I'm at now). Trained heavily throughout my teens, 20s and 30s with most of the fat gain in the last 6 years.

On my shopping list is an elliptical. I do no true cardio. I used to pull a sled, particularly backwards was usually very good for my knees and hips. Steps forwards 10k+ really aggravates my situation unfortunately. I do backwards walking on my treadmill. Its not really cardio, more prehab. Nowhere near as good as the sled work in my old gym.


Cognitive and mood

I am very likely undiagnosed depression and ADHD. For better or for worse I present as totally fine and my GP treats me as such. I will admit to having tried my childs 10mg Ritalin on multiple occasions. Apparently this is quite common and how adults end up getting themselves tested and on that train. If my mood is so low (and its not that often) I will not self start, I will use it. I have not had to use it since my creatine, methylene blue and semax regime which has been over two months now.

I realise the methylene blue may be hitting tinfoil hat levels for most and having seen the footage of RFK Junior smashing the piss out of it, I was quite suspicious. All I can say is if it weren't working for me I wouldn’t still be doing it. The Semax by itself did not seem to do much for me. Certainly not against Ritalin. However, I do note greater capacity to concentrate and importantly FINISH tasks whilst on it.

As an aside and in case someone is dealing with this: I was very apprehensive about "drugging" my primary school child. However, they have gone from a very much at risk student (some of the details would frighten any parent) to one of the top performers. That tiny dose of ritalin (along with the right guidance and leadership of course) straightened my child up just enough to give them the space to breath, operate and most importantly believe in their own ability and understand their own worth. Not preaching just putting it out there.


Sleep

I am winning here after decades of struggles. Started when I shift-worked in my 20s. Seemed "doable" until I got a wife, child and responsibility!

Initial sleep study 2024: ~80 RDI and AHI: 477 apneas, mostly obstructive, 140 hypopneas.
Conclusion: "very severe obstructive sleep apnoea with severe accompanying oxygen desaturation".
Their solution: a $3500 CPAP setup. I didn’t qualify so had to pay for it out of pocket. It did nothing to help and I could not use it.
An x-ray later an ENT was repairing a broken nose I didn’t know I had and he shaved the turbinates to make even more room. I now have to Fighter jet intakes.


I do use the CPAP now. Mostly to monitor and collect data. I need to assess its efficacy re: Blood oxygen.

The clonidine melatonin combination gets me to sleep. Clonidine is a hypertensive becoming popular for ADHD "sufferers" and their sleeping woes. I have high normal BP.

The Vesicare is an overactive bladder medication. I would often wake at 2,3am like a lot of people and then not be able to head back to sleep. Having found no renal issues my GP agreed to try Vesicare to see if retraining myself and a potentially OAB would work. Only been on this for two weeks but there have been a few nights where I have slept through. This is a WIP but looking promising.

Aesthetics

I have a lot of assymterical vascularity: differing on front and back, left and right appendages. Other than that I would say I look very similar to @RizzleDizzle from his first log except I have some side saddles and my rolled left shoulder gives me side boob. I cannot hold the shoulder in a posture that makes it look completely normal and reasonably symmetrical. My solution: continued fat loss and increase chest and lat etc. My skin has bounced back for the most part. I really have made a mess of my body not prioritising myself but onwards and upwards.

Proposed cycle

12 weeks

400mg/week Test E. **I have a vial of Clinic Test C remaining. Use or shelve?
200mg EQ weekly.


2IU HGH daily AM ongoing.

Blood test every 4 weeks.

To do list

Rework vitamin supps, investigate liver support, -biotics, AI(?) and TB5080+BPC157 (have on hand). Cardio!

Thank you for reading!
@WillyT This is one of the best openings for a Log that I've seen in a long time. Very thorough man. Good job.
 
11:27 AM
EVO Crew!

First log. This feels like an auto-dump but it has been quite a useful and cathartic process. It shows me I have actually come quite far. Also, some of it may be a little off topic but useful for others.

Age 45
Loc Sydney, Australia.
Height 196cm, 6' 5"
Weight 96kg, 211lbs (down from 132kg, 291 lb as at 1 Jul 2024).
BF% 20% using Evolt Body Scanner.




Current regime

All injectables are currently subq.

TRT 150 mg/week split MON, WED, FRI.
HGH 2IU AM daily.


Retatrutide 2500mcg/week.
Glow70 4IU daily.
MT2 currently EOD for summer.


Tadalafil5mg+VitD3600iu+Zinc15mg EOD.

Semax 600mcg daily.
Methylene Blue 3 drops.
Creatine 2g daily.
(all see cognitive)


Clonadine 100mcg.
Solifenacin Succinate ("Vesicare") 5mg .
Melatonin modified release. 10mg.
(all see sleep)


Meloxicam 15mg daily (see injuries).

Multivitamin
Vitamin D
Potassium
Magnesium morning and sleep time.



Bloods
Most recent bloods are TRT 135mg/w and HGH 2IUs per day.
As above I have since returned to TRT 150 mg/w and my overall disposition has improved.




DateTotal T (nmol/L)Free T (pmol/L)Estradiol (pmol/L)LH / FSHLDL (mmol/L)Trigs (mmol/L)HctNeutrophils (×10⁹/L)ALT / AST (U/L)Glucose (mmol/L)Notes
27 Jul 202313.6303162 ↑3.01.80.443.7ALT 34 / AST 254.8Pre TRT.
17 Nov 202347.7 ↑1411 ↑126LH <1 / FSH <13.1 ↑2.3 ↑0.462.1ALT 33 / AST 285.1Test 150mg/w (split2) +HCG+Exemestane.
Jan 202427.1860 ↑98LH <1 / FSH ~13.3 ↑2.2 ↑0.453.1ALT 27 / AST 244.9Switched providers. There was no pause. Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Jul 202443.0 ↑1244 ↑362 ↑↑LH <1 / FSH <12.51.40.462.1ALT 25 / AST 245.1Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Aug 202450.9 ↑1380 ↑299 ↑LH <1 / FSH <12.41.00.472.1ALT 26 / AST 245.2Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Mar 202541.2 ↑1162 ↑252 ↑LH <1 / FSH <12.61.10.461.7 ↓ALT 23 / AST 245.2Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Jul 202538.1 ↑957 ↑278 ↑LH <1 / FSH <11.40.471.8 ↓ALT 23 / AST 244.9Clinic drops TRT to 135mg/w.
4 Dec 2025 26.3624185LH <0.1 / FSH <12.20.80.461.8 ↓ALT 26 / AST 294.0+HGH 2IU. TRT @ 135mg/w.


Diet

Noticed great improvement in my bloods once I really cleaned up my act here. Still lots to learn and much to implement. This change for me was from Jul 2025 onwards only. Prior it was just whatever kept me under the macros.

The increased carbs is in line with the start of HGH and post the TRT Clinic dropping of my Test C to see if it made a difference to my mood. Energy up but no improvement in mood.

From 120+ kgs down to 98kgs I was on a reasonably severe calory deficit and I broke it often which told me it wasn't quite what I needed.

Currently I am on a training day, non-training day split. Lost about 2kg since being on this and feel more capable.


CaloriesProteinCarbsFat
Training~2,800210–230 g260–320 g60–80 g
Light / Rest2,300–2,400190–210 g150–200 g70–90 g



Injuries

A lot of poorly dealt with injuries from previous career. There are some contact injuries but it appears to mostly be chronic traction/overuse.

Mortons neuroma: I cannot feel most of the front 1/3 of my feet. It becomes particularly bad 20k+ steps.
Left shoulder: popped in and out multiple times in my 20s. Was never dealt with properly and has never truly sat right ever since. This is largely managed by me now. It works and I can train with it. It is next on my list of broken shit to be looked at next (further discussed in aesthetics).


Knees: loose bone fragments and ossific spurring at many of the attachments.
Hips: there is some bone remodelling there. There is limited space between the "socket" and the inner topmost part of the ball in my left hip.


The knees are only ever painful when my hip is playing up. This has gone on for decades but has been extremely painful recently to the point where I cannot manage it myself. Its now being managed by a physician and surgeon. I am cleared to train with limitations. The meloxicam was instantly helpful for the pain. It is a trial and a stopgap prior to MRI and next consult.

There are other injuries but the above is what I consider limits my training.

All this is to say if you see some odd crap in my program, the above is probably why it is there.



Training

Combination of hypertrophy and pre/re-hab training.

Day 1 Upper push
Day 2 Quads + calves
Day 3 Push chest delts tris
Day 4 Pull back biceps
Day 5 Hams + glutes
Day 6 Upper pull
Day 7 rest/active recovery


I train in my home gym. It will do the job for the foreseeable future especially with my injury restrictions. The only piece of equipment I truly miss is a seated leg curl machine and leg press. My Force USA G20 uses the foot plate that clicks onto the smith machine bar. It feels sketch.

My restrictions will not preclude me from lifting heavy (for where I'm at now). Trained heavily throughout my teens, 20s and 30s with most of the fat gain in the last 6 years.

On my shopping list is an elliptical. I do no true cardio. I used to pull a sled, particularly backwards was usually very good for my knees and hips. Steps forwards 10k+ really aggravates my situation unfortunately. I do backwards walking on my treadmill. Its not really cardio, more prehab. Nowhere near as good as the sled work in my old gym.


Cognitive and mood

I am very likely undiagnosed depression and ADHD. For better or for worse I present as totally fine and my GP treats me as such. I will admit to having tried my childs 10mg Ritalin on multiple occasions. Apparently this is quite common and how adults end up getting themselves tested and on that train. If my mood is so low (and its not that often) I will not self start, I will use it. I have not had to use it since my creatine, methylene blue and semax regime which has been over two months now.

I realise the methylene blue may be hitting tinfoil hat levels for most and having seen the footage of RFK Junior smashing the piss out of it, I was quite suspicious. All I can say is if it weren't working for me I wouldn’t still be doing it. The Semax by itself did not seem to do much for me. Certainly not against Ritalin. However, I do note greater capacity to concentrate and importantly FINISH tasks whilst on it.

As an aside and in case someone is dealing with this: I was very apprehensive about "drugging" my primary school child. However, they have gone from a very much at risk student (some of the details would frighten any parent) to one of the top performers. That tiny dose of ritalin (along with the right guidance and leadership of course) straightened my child up just enough to give them the space to breath, operate and most importantly believe in their own ability and understand their own worth. Not preaching just putting it out there.


Sleep

I am winning here after decades of struggles. Started when I shift-worked in my 20s. Seemed "doable" until I got a wife, child and responsibility!

Initial sleep study 2024: ~80 RDI and AHI: 477 apneas, mostly obstructive, 140 hypopneas.
Conclusion: "very severe obstructive sleep apnoea with severe accompanying oxygen desaturation".
Their solution: a $3500 CPAP setup. I didn’t qualify so had to pay for it out of pocket. It did nothing to help and I could not use it.
An x-ray later an ENT was repairing a broken nose I didn’t know I had and he shaved the turbinates to make even more room. I now have to Fighter jet intakes.


I do use the CPAP now. Mostly to monitor and collect data. I need to assess its efficacy re: Blood oxygen.

The clonidine melatonin combination gets me to sleep. Clonidine is a hypertensive becoming popular for ADHD "sufferers" and their sleeping woes. I have high normal BP.

The Vesicare is an overactive bladder medication. I would often wake at 2,3am like a lot of people and then not be able to head back to sleep. Having found no renal issues my GP agreed to try Vesicare to see if retraining myself and a potentially OAB would work. Only been on this for two weeks but there have been a few nights where I have slept through. This is a WIP but looking promising.

Aesthetics

I have a lot of assymterical vascularity: differing on front and back, left and right appendages. Other than that I would say I look very similar to @RizzleDizzle from his first log except I have some side saddles and my rolled left shoulder gives me side boob. I cannot hold the shoulder in a posture that makes it look completely normal and reasonably symmetrical. My solution: continued fat loss and increase chest and lat etc. My skin has bounced back for the most part. I really have made a mess of my body not prioritising myself but onwards and upwards.

Proposed cycle

12 weeks

400mg/week Test E. **I have a vial of Clinic Test C remaining. Use or shelve?
200mg EQ weekly.


2IU HGH daily AM ongoing.

Blood test every 4 weeks.

To do list

Rework vitamin supps, investigate liver support, -biotics, AI(?) and TB5080+BPC157 (have on hand). Cardio!

Thank you for reading!
Wow this is probably the most detailed log opening I've ever seen. You're on top of everything. You have a great physique for a recomp too. With this type of attention to detail all you need to do is stick to the plan and be consistent. Success is guaranteed.

What type of work did you do where you need up this banged up? Were you in the NFL or somethn lol
 
Should be first two pics. Repeated here also. This is with Test C 135mg/w and 2 IU HGH onboard Thursday morning of a Mon, Wed, Fri setup for Test.View attachment 153691
I'm blind sorry lol :P I see it now! levels are average @WillyT e2 is a bit high you feeling it?
 
11:27 AM
EVO Crew!

First log. This feels like an auto-dump but it has been quite a useful and cathartic process. It shows me I have actually come quite far. Also, some of it may be a little off topic but useful for others.

Age 45
Loc Sydney, Australia.
Height 196cm, 6' 5"
Weight 96kg, 211lbs (down from 132kg, 291 lb as at 1 Jul 2024).
BF% 20% using Evolt Body Scanner.




Current regime

All injectables are currently subq.

TRT 150 mg/week split MON, WED, FRI.
HGH 2IU AM daily.


Retatrutide 2500mcg/week.
Glow70 4IU daily.
MT2 currently EOD for summer.


Tadalafil5mg+VitD3600iu+Zinc15mg EOD.

Semax 600mcg daily.
Methylene Blue 3 drops.
Creatine 2g daily.
(all see cognitive)


Clonadine 100mcg.
Solifenacin Succinate ("Vesicare") 5mg .
Melatonin modified release. 10mg.
(all see sleep)


Meloxicam 15mg daily (see injuries).

Multivitamin
Vitamin D
Potassium
Magnesium morning and sleep time.



Bloods
Most recent bloods are TRT 135mg/w and HGH 2IUs per day.
As above I have since returned to TRT 150 mg/w and my overall disposition has improved.




DateTotal T (nmol/L)Free T (pmol/L)Estradiol (pmol/L)LH / FSHLDL (mmol/L)Trigs (mmol/L)HctNeutrophils (×10⁹/L)ALT / AST (U/L)Glucose (mmol/L)Notes
27 Jul 202313.6303162 ↑3.01.80.443.7ALT 34 / AST 254.8Pre TRT.
17 Nov 202347.7 ↑1411 ↑126LH <1 / FSH <13.1 ↑2.3 ↑0.462.1ALT 33 / AST 285.1Test 150mg/w (split2) +HCG+Exemestane.
Jan 202427.1860 ↑98LH <1 / FSH ~13.3 ↑2.2 ↑0.453.1ALT 27 / AST 244.9Switched providers. There was no pause. Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Jul 202443.0 ↑1244 ↑362 ↑↑LH <1 / FSH <12.51.40.462.1ALT 25 / AST 245.1Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Aug 202450.9 ↑1380 ↑299 ↑LH <1 / FSH <12.41.00.472.1ALT 26 / AST 245.2Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Mar 202541.2 ↑1162 ↑252 ↑LH <1 / FSH <12.61.10.461.7 ↓ALT 23 / AST 245.2Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Jul 202538.1 ↑957 ↑278 ↑LH <1 / FSH <11.40.471.8 ↓ALT 23 / AST 244.9Clinic drops TRT to 135mg/w.
4 Dec 2025 26.3624185LH <0.1 / FSH <12.20.80.461.8 ↓ALT 26 / AST 294.0+HGH 2IU. TRT @ 135mg/w.


Diet

Noticed great improvement in my bloods once I really cleaned up my act here. Still lots to learn and much to implement. This change for me was from Jul 2025 onwards only. Prior it was just whatever kept me under the macros.

The increased carbs is in line with the start of HGH and post the TRT Clinic dropping of my Test C to see if it made a difference to my mood. Energy up but no improvement in mood.

From 120+ kgs down to 98kgs I was on a reasonably severe calory deficit and I broke it often which told me it wasn't quite what I needed.

Currently I am on a training day, non-training day split. Lost about 2kg since being on this and feel more capable.


CaloriesProteinCarbsFat
Training~2,800210–230 g260–320 g60–80 g
Light / Rest2,300–2,400190–210 g150–200 g70–90 g



Injuries

A lot of poorly dealt with injuries from previous career. There are some contact injuries but it appears to mostly be chronic traction/overuse.

Mortons neuroma: I cannot feel most of the front 1/3 of my feet. It becomes particularly bad 20k+ steps.
Left shoulder: popped in and out multiple times in my 20s. Was never dealt with properly and has never truly sat right ever since. This is largely managed by me now. It works and I can train with it. It is next on my list of broken shit to be looked at next (further discussed in aesthetics).


Knees: loose bone fragments and ossific spurring at many of the attachments.
Hips: there is some bone remodelling there. There is limited space between the "socket" and the inner topmost part of the ball in my left hip.


The knees are only ever painful when my hip is playing up. This has gone on for decades but has been extremely painful recently to the point where I cannot manage it myself. Its now being managed by a physician and surgeon. I am cleared to train with limitations. The meloxicam was instantly helpful for the pain. It is a trial and a stopgap prior to MRI and next consult.

There are other injuries but the above is what I consider limits my training.

All this is to say if you see some odd crap in my program, the above is probably why it is there.



Training

Combination of hypertrophy and pre/re-hab training.

Day 1 Upper push
Day 2 Quads + calves
Day 3 Push chest delts tris
Day 4 Pull back biceps
Day 5 Hams + glutes
Day 6 Upper pull
Day 7 rest/active recovery


I train in my home gym. It will do the job for the foreseeable future especially with my injury restrictions. The only piece of equipment I truly miss is a seated leg curl machine and leg press. My Force USA G20 uses the foot plate that clicks onto the smith machine bar. It feels sketch.

My restrictions will not preclude me from lifting heavy (for where I'm at now). Trained heavily throughout my teens, 20s and 30s with most of the fat gain in the last 6 years.

On my shopping list is an elliptical. I do no true cardio. I used to pull a sled, particularly backwards was usually very good for my knees and hips. Steps forwards 10k+ really aggravates my situation unfortunately. I do backwards walking on my treadmill. Its not really cardio, more prehab. Nowhere near as good as the sled work in my old gym.


Cognitive and mood

I am very likely undiagnosed depression and ADHD. For better or for worse I present as totally fine and my GP treats me as such. I will admit to having tried my childs 10mg Ritalin on multiple occasions. Apparently this is quite common and how adults end up getting themselves tested and on that train. If my mood is so low (and its not that often) I will not self start, I will use it. I have not had to use it since my creatine, methylene blue and semax regime which has been over two months now.

I realise the methylene blue may be hitting tinfoil hat levels for most and having seen the footage of RFK Junior smashing the piss out of it, I was quite suspicious. All I can say is if it weren't working for me I wouldn’t still be doing it. The Semax by itself did not seem to do much for me. Certainly not against Ritalin. However, I do note greater capacity to concentrate and importantly FINISH tasks whilst on it.

As an aside and in case someone is dealing with this: I was very apprehensive about "drugging" my primary school child. However, they have gone from a very much at risk student (some of the details would frighten any parent) to one of the top performers. That tiny dose of ritalin (along with the right guidance and leadership of course) straightened my child up just enough to give them the space to breath, operate and most importantly believe in their own ability and understand their own worth. Not preaching just putting it out there.


Sleep

I am winning here after decades of struggles. Started when I shift-worked in my 20s. Seemed "doable" until I got a wife, child and responsibility!

Initial sleep study 2024: ~80 RDI and AHI: 477 apneas, mostly obstructive, 140 hypopneas.
Conclusion: "very severe obstructive sleep apnoea with severe accompanying oxygen desaturation".
Their solution: a $3500 CPAP setup. I didn’t qualify so had to pay for it out of pocket. It did nothing to help and I could not use it.
An x-ray later an ENT was repairing a broken nose I didn’t know I had and he shaved the turbinates to make even more room. I now have to Fighter jet intakes.


I do use the CPAP now. Mostly to monitor and collect data. I need to assess its efficacy re: Blood oxygen.

The clonidine melatonin combination gets me to sleep. Clonidine is a hypertensive becoming popular for ADHD "sufferers" and their sleeping woes. I have high normal BP.

The Vesicare is an overactive bladder medication. I would often wake at 2,3am like a lot of people and then not be able to head back to sleep. Having found no renal issues my GP agreed to try Vesicare to see if retraining myself and a potentially OAB would work. Only been on this for two weeks but there have been a few nights where I have slept through. This is a WIP but looking promising.

Aesthetics

I have a lot of assymterical vascularity: differing on front and back, left and right appendages. Other than that I would say I look very similar to @RizzleDizzle from his first log except I have some side saddles and my rolled left shoulder gives me side boob. I cannot hold the shoulder in a posture that makes it look completely normal and reasonably symmetrical. My solution: continued fat loss and increase chest and lat etc. My skin has bounced back for the most part. I really have made a mess of my body not prioritising myself but onwards and upwards.

Proposed cycle

12 weeks

400mg/week Test E. **I have a vial of Clinic Test C remaining. Use or shelve?
200mg EQ weekly.


2IU HGH daily AM ongoing.

Blood test every 4 weeks.

To do list

Rework vitamin supps, investigate liver support, -biotics, AI(?) and TB5080+BPC157 (have on hand). Cardio!

Thank you for reading!
Welcome to Evo mate!

Awesome first post. Thanks for providing so much information. It was an interesting read.

Well done on your progress so fan!

Your macros look pretty good. I would maybe keep the protein high on the off day as well.

Good to see you're getting sleep sorted.

Training looks good. Can you show some typical workouts including exercises and weights used.
 
@LevButlerov 😊 All good. High e2 symptoms: not that I'm aware of.

Edit: Having said that, it may be worth a shot AIing myself at some point and seeing if it positively affects my dodgy sleep.
shot aling? please give me more info :D
 
Training looks good. Can you show some typical workouts including exercises and weights used.

Thanks Wags. Will do x2. I am an old school pen and paper operator so I'll need to get some kind of system going for here. The training is modifying as I go now (as opposed to putting up with the pain) also so its a bit of a process.
shot aling? please give me more info :D
I'm thinking now that you've bought it up, it came to me that it may be worth trying an AI to see if it has any positive affect on my sleep. Perhaps reconvene at the 4 week mark with the updated bloods and try an AI if the EQ isn't suppressing (enough).
 
I'm thinking now that you've bought it up, it came to me that it may be worth trying an AI to see if it has any positive affect on my sleep. Perhaps reconvene at the 4 week mark with the updated bloods and try an AI if the EQ isn't suppressing (enough).
ai for sleep possible we can try to up eq dose a bit @WillyT
 
Everything looks pretty decent man, youve done some good work, not sure what 200mg of eq would do for you at this point, I would keep going with low dose t, reta and GH and drop some body fat before bulking up
Thanks Dreamer. I'm not ignoring you. I just need to give you a proper response: which is now a tomorrow job. 😴
 
@Mobster Army Infantry, Para and then Civilian Contractor. @BeMe No NFL. Lots of Aussie Rules (AFL) though and basketball.
Ahhh makes sense..I've watched AFL on YouTube and you guys are fukn badasses! People always talk about the NFL being so hardcore. Watch some AFL in Aus or NLL in Canada. Much tougher sports
 
Thanks Wags. Will do x2. I am an old school pen and paper operator so I'll need to get some kind of system going for here. The training is modifying as I go now (as opposed to putting up with the pain) also so its a bit of a process.

I'm thinking now that you've bought it up, it came to me that it may be worth trying an AI to see if it has any positive affect on my sleep. Perhaps reconvene at the 4 week mark with the updated bloods and try an AI if the EQ isn't suppressing (enough).
I just use notes on my phone. Once you get the week it is generally copy and paste and change few reps here and there.
 
12 Dec 2025

Pre-Workout (06:00)
Item Amount
Heart Active milk 150 g
VPA whey 32 g
Macros: ~210 kcal · 32 g P · 12 g C · 4 g F

Breakfast (09:00)
Item Amount
Overnight oats (oats, Jalna Greek yoghurt, berries, milk, whey) 1 serve
Cinnamon sugar small amount

Macros: ~525 kcal · 45 g P · 60 g C · 12 g F

Lunch (13:00)
Item Amount
Chicken tenderloin 243 g
Spud Lite potatoes 310 g
Nuttelex buttery 28 g
Broccoli 154 g
Chives 5 g
Macros: ~770 kcal · 61 g P · 62 g C · 28 g F

Snack (14:00)
Item Amount
Whittaker’s Dark Chocolate Rum & Raisin 3 pieces
Macros: ~175 kcal · 1 g P · 12 g C · 12 g F

Dinner (≈18:30)
Item Amount
Beef tenderloin 206 g
Cooked rice 232 g
Green beans 180 g
HP sauce 30 g
Macros: ~650 kcal · 50 g P · 81 g C · 10 g F

Dessert (Evening)
Item Amount
VPA whey 2 scoops (64 g)
Jalna Greek yoghurt 100 g
Mixed berries 100 g
Macros: ~405 kcal · 51 g P · 20 g C · 6 g F

Drinks (Throughout Day)
Item Amount
Espresso coffee 4 shots
Diet Coke 1 can
(Calories/macros negligible)

Daily Totals
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
~2,735 kcal ~240 g ~247 g ~72 g
Against Training-Day Targets
Metric Target Actual Status
Calories ~2,800 ~2,735 On target
Protein 210–230 g ~240 g Slightly high
Carbs 260–320 g ~247 g Slightly low
Fat 60–80 g ~72 g On target

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EVO Crew!

First log. This feels like an auto-dump but it has been quite a useful and cathartic process. It shows me I have actually come quite far. Also, some of it may be a little off topic but useful for others.

Age 45
Loc Sydney, Australia.
Height 196cm, 6' 5"
Weight 96kg, 211lbs (down from 132kg, 291 lb as at 1 Jul 2024).
BF% 20% using Evolt Body Scanner.



Current regime

All injectables are currently subq.

TRT 150 mg/week split MON, WED, FRI.
HGH 2IU AM daily.

Retatrutide 2500mcg/week.
Glow70 4IU daily.
MT2 currently EOD for summer.

Tadalafil5mg+VitD3600iu+Zinc15mg EOD.

Semax 600mcg daily.
Methylene Blue 3 drops.
Creatine 2g daily.
(all see cognitive)

Clonadine 100mcg.
Solifenacin Succinate ("Vesicare") 5mg .
Melatonin modified release. 10mg.
(all see sleep)

Meloxicam 15mg daily (see injuries).

Multivitamin
Vitamin D
Potassium
Magnesium morning and sleep time.


Bloods
Most recent bloods are TRT 135mg/w and HGH 2IUs per day.
As above I have since returned to TRT 150 mg/w and my overall disposition has improved.



DateTotal T (nmol/L)Free T (pmol/L)Estradiol (pmol/L)LH / FSHLDL (mmol/L)Trigs (mmol/L)HctNeutrophils (×10⁹/L)ALT / AST (U/L)Glucose (mmol/L)Notes
27 Jul 202313.6303162 ↑3.01.80.443.7ALT 34 / AST 254.8Pre TRT.
17 Nov 202347.7 ↑1411 ↑126LH <1 / FSH <13.1 ↑2.3 ↑0.462.1ALT 33 / AST 285.1Test 150mg/w (split2) +HCG+Exemestane.
Jan 202427.1860 ↑98LH <1 / FSH ~13.3 ↑2.2 ↑0.453.1ALT 27 / AST 244.9Switched providers. There was no pause. Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Jul 202443.0 ↑1244 ↑362 ↑↑LH <1 / FSH <12.51.40.462.1ALT 25 / AST 245.1Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Aug 202450.9 ↑1380 ↑299 ↑LH <1 / FSH <12.41.00.472.1ALT 26 / AST 245.2Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Mar 202541.2 ↑1162 ↑252 ↑LH <1 / FSH <12.61.10.461.7 ↓ALT 23 / AST 245.2Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Jul 202538.1 ↑957 ↑278 ↑LH <1 / FSH <11.40.471.8 ↓ALT 23 / AST 244.9Clinic drops TRT to 135mg/w.
4 Dec 2025 26.3624185LH <0.1 / FSH <12.20.80.461.8 ↓ALT 26 / AST 294.0+HGH 2IU. TRT @ 135mg/w.


Diet

Noticed great improvement in my bloods once I really cleaned up my act here. Still lots to learn and much to implement. This change for me was from Jul 2025 onwards only. Prior it was just whatever kept me under the macros.

The increased carbs is in line with the start of HGH and post the TRT Clinic dropping of my Test C to see if it made a difference to my mood. Energy up but no improvement in mood.

From 120+ kgs down to 98kgs I was on a reasonably severe calory deficit and I broke it often which told me it wasn't quite what I needed.

Currently I am on a training day, non-training day split. Lost about 2kg since being on this and feel more capable.


CaloriesProteinCarbsFat
Training~2,800210–230 g260–320 g60–80 g
Light / Rest2,300–2,400190–210 g150–200 g70–90 g



Injuries

A lot of poorly dealt with injuries from previous career. There are some contact injuries but it appears to mostly be chronic traction/overuse.

Mortons neuroma: I cannot feel most of the front 1/3 of my feet. It becomes particularly bad 20k+ steps.
Left shoulder: popped in and out multiple times in my 20s. Was never dealt with properly and has never truly sat right ever since. This is largely managed by me now. It works and I can train with it. It is next on my list of broken shit to be looked at next (further discussed in aesthetics).

Knees: loose bone fragments and ossific spurring at many of the attachments.
Hips: there is some bone remodelling there. There is limited space between the "socket" and the inner topmost part of the ball in my left hip.

The knees are only ever painful when my hip is playing up. This has gone on for decades but has been extremely painful recently to the point where I cannot manage it myself. Its now being managed by a physician and surgeon. I am cleared to train with limitations. The meloxicam was instantly helpful for the pain. It is a trial and a stopgap prior to MRI and next consult.

There are other injuries but the above is what I consider limits my training.

All this is to say if you see some odd crap in my program, the above is probably why it is there.



Training

Combination of hypertrophy and pre/re-hab training.

Day 1 Upper push
Day 2 Quads + calves
Day 3 Push chest delts tris
Day 4 Pull back biceps
Day 5 Hams + glutes
Day 6 Upper pull
Day 7 rest/active recovery

I train in my home gym. It will do the job for the foreseeable future especially with my injury restrictions. The only piece of equipment I truly miss is a seated leg curl machine and leg press. My Force USA G20 uses the foot plate that clicks onto the smith machine bar. It feels sketch.

My restrictions will not preclude me from lifting heavy (for where I'm at now). Trained heavily throughout my teens, 20s and 30s with most of the fat gain in the last 6 years.

On my shopping list is an elliptical. I do no true cardio. I used to pull a sled, particularly backwards was usually very good for my knees and hips. Steps forwards 10k+ really aggravates my situation unfortunately. I do backwards walking on my treadmill. Its not really cardio, more prehab. Nowhere near as good as the sled work in my old gym.


Cognitive and mood

I am very likely undiagnosed depression and ADHD. For better or for worse I present as totally fine and my GP treats me as such. I will admit to having tried my childs 10mg Ritalin on multiple occasions. Apparently this is quite common and how adults end up getting themselves tested and on that train. If my mood is so low (and its not that often) I will not self start, I will use it. I have not had to use it since my creatine, methylene blue and semax regime which has been over two months now.

I realise the methylene blue may be hitting tinfoil hat levels for most and having seen the footage of RFK Junior smashing the piss out of it, I was quite suspicious. All I can say is if it weren't working for me I wouldn’t still be doing it. The Semax by itself did not seem to do much for me. Certainly not against Ritalin. However, I do note greater capacity to concentrate and importantly FINISH tasks whilst on it.

As an aside and in case someone is dealing with this: I was very apprehensive about "drugging" my primary school child. However, they have gone from a very much at risk student (some of the details would frighten any parent) to one of the top performers. That tiny dose of ritalin (along with the right guidance and leadership of course) straightened my child up just enough to give them the space to breath, operate and most importantly believe in their own ability and understand their own worth. Not preaching just putting it out there.


Sleep

I am winning here after decades of struggles. Started when I shift-worked in my 20s. Seemed "doable" until I got a wife, child and responsibility!

Initial sleep study 2024: ~80 RDI and AHI: 477 apneas, mostly obstructive, 140 hypopneas.
Conclusion: "very severe obstructive sleep apnoea with severe accompanying oxygen desaturation".
Their solution: a $3500 CPAP setup. I didn’t qualify so had to pay for it out of pocket. It did nothing to help and I could not use it.
An x-ray later an ENT was repairing a broken nose I didn’t know I had and he shaved the turbinates to make even more room. I now have to Fighter jet intakes.

I do use the CPAP now. Mostly to monitor and collect data. I need to assess its efficacy re: Blood oxygen.

The clonidine melatonin combination gets me to sleep. Clonidine is a hypertensive becoming popular for ADHD "sufferers" and their sleeping woes. I have high normal BP.

The Vesicare is an overactive bladder medication. I would often wake at 2,3am like a lot of people and then not be able to head back to sleep. Having found no renal issues my GP agreed to try Vesicare to see if retraining myself and a potentially OAB would work. Only been on this for two weeks but there have been a few nights where I have slept through. This is a WIP but looking promising.

Aesthetics

I have a lot of assymterical vascularity: differing on front and back, left and right appendages. Other than that I would say I look very similar to @RizzleDizzle from his first log except I have some side saddles and my rolled left shoulder gives me side boob. I cannot hold the shoulder in a posture that makes it look completely normal and reasonably symmetrical. My solution: continued fat loss and increase chest and lat etc. My skin has bounced back for the most part. I really have made a mess of my body not prioritising myself but onwards and upwards.

Proposed cycle

12 weeks

400mg/week Test E. **I have a vial of Clinic Test C remaining. Use or shelve?
200mg EQ weekly.

2IU HGH daily AM ongoing.

Blood test every 4 weeks.

To do list

Rework vitamin supps, investigate liver support, -biotics, AI(?) and TB5080+BPC157 (have on hand). Cardio!

Thank you for reading!
@WillyT welcome aboard the Evo train brother. Glad to have ya
 
12 Dec 2025

Pre-Workout (06:00)
Item Amount
Heart Active milk 150 g
VPA whey 32 g
Macros: ~210 kcal · 32 g P · 12 g C · 4 g F

Breakfast (09:00)
Item Amount
Overnight oats (oats, Jalna Greek yoghurt, berries, milk, whey) 1 serve
Cinnamon sugar small amount

Macros: ~525 kcal · 45 g P · 60 g C · 12 g F

Lunch (13:00)
Item Amount
Chicken tenderloin 243 g
Spud Lite potatoes 310 g
Nuttelex buttery 28 g
Broccoli 154 g
Chives 5 g
Macros: ~770 kcal · 61 g P · 62 g C · 28 g F

Snack (14:00)
Item Amount
Whittaker’s Dark Chocolate Rum & Raisin 3 pieces
Macros: ~175 kcal · 1 g P · 12 g C · 12 g F

Dinner (≈18:30)
Item Amount
Beef tenderloin 206 g
Cooked rice 232 g
Green beans 180 g
HP sauce 30 g
Macros: ~650 kcal · 50 g P · 81 g C · 10 g F

Dessert (Evening)
Item Amount
VPA whey 2 scoops (64 g)
Jalna Greek yoghurt 100 g
Mixed berries 100 g
Macros: ~405 kcal · 51 g P · 20 g C · 6 g F

Drinks (Throughout Day)
Item Amount
Espresso coffee 4 shots
Diet Coke 1 can
(Calories/macros negligible)

Daily Totals
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
~2,735 kcal ~240 g ~247 g ~72 g
Against Training-Day Targets
Metric Target Actual Status
Calories ~2,800 ~2,735 On target
Protein 210–230 g ~240 g Slightly high
Carbs 260–320 g ~247 g Slightly low
Fat 60–80 g ~72 g On target

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good macros here :D @WillyT and amazing meal pics
to start i would first cut some carbs last meal evening dinner and add them AM breakfast
how about supps? updates?
This is all 1 day training? all this volume? @WillyT

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
@SPOONMAN366 @coolguy77711
 
12 Dec 2025

Pre-Workout (06:00)
Item Amount
Heart Active milk 150 g
VPA whey 32 g
Macros: ~210 kcal · 32 g P · 12 g C · 4 g F

Breakfast (09:00)
Item Amount
Overnight oats (oats, Jalna Greek yoghurt, berries, milk, whey) 1 serve
Cinnamon sugar small amount

Macros: ~525 kcal · 45 g P · 60 g C · 12 g F

Lunch (13:00)
Item Amount
Chicken tenderloin 243 g
Spud Lite potatoes 310 g
Nuttelex buttery 28 g
Broccoli 154 g
Chives 5 g
Macros: ~770 kcal · 61 g P · 62 g C · 28 g F

Snack (14:00)
Item Amount
Whittaker’s Dark Chocolate Rum & Raisin 3 pieces
Macros: ~175 kcal · 1 g P · 12 g C · 12 g F

Dinner (≈18:30)
Item Amount
Beef tenderloin 206 g
Cooked rice 232 g
Green beans 180 g
HP sauce 30 g
Macros: ~650 kcal · 50 g P · 81 g C · 10 g F

Dessert (Evening)
Item Amount
VPA whey 2 scoops (64 g)
Jalna Greek yoghurt 100 g
Mixed berries 100 g
Macros: ~405 kcal · 51 g P · 20 g C · 6 g F

Drinks (Throughout Day)
Item Amount
Espresso coffee 4 shots
Diet Coke 1 can
(Calories/macros negligible)

Daily Totals
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
~2,735 kcal ~240 g ~247 g ~72 g
Against Training-Day Targets
Metric Target Actual Status
Calories ~2,800 ~2,735 On target
Protein 210–230 g ~240 g Slightly high
Carbs 260–320 g ~247 g Slightly low
Fat 60–80 g ~72 g On target

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Good looking food, had me excited I thought it was an Acai bowl
 
good macros here :D @WillyT and amazing meal pics
to start i would first cut some carbs last meal evening dinner and add them AM breakfast
how about supps? updates?

This is all 1 day training? all this volume? @WillyT

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
@SPOONMAN366 @coolguy77711

Will do re: carbs. Training is usually before sun up. If it switches to the afternoon: carbs around workout or keep them AM fullstop?

Re: training volume: yes thats all one day. Each day is currently about 20-24 sets.
 
Got jammed up today with the childs schedule. Ripped an oats bowl out of the fridge and had that instead of waiting for dinner.
I make four of those bowls at a time and they sit in the fridge. I also have a whole load frozen.

Breakfast

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The "pizza" below is three mountain breads glued together with egg whites. The egg whites fluff it up. Sounds sketch but it does the job and doesn't bomb you out for the day. That whole thing is 450cals only.

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13 Dec 2025

Breakfast — 07:00
Item Amount
Eggs 4
Heart Active milk 10 g
Spinach 200 g
Chilli flakes 5g
Vegeta seasoning 3 g
Italian herbs 5g
Tasty shredded cheese 10 g

Macros (approx.):
~360 kcal | 33 g P | 10 g C | 22 g F

Snack — 10:00
Item Amount
Turkish delight 1 serve
Espresso coffee 1 shot

Macros (approx.):
~378 kcal | ~90–95 g C | 0 g P | 0 g F

Lunch — 12:30
Item Amount
Overnight oats bowl oats: Jalna Greek yoghurt, berries, milk, whey 1 serve
Sugar-free syrup 5g

Macros (approx.):
~520 kcal | 45 g P | 55–60 g C | 10–12 g F

Early Dinner (“Pizza”) — 15:30
Item Amount
Mountain Bread wraps 3
Egg whites (painted on base) ~2 whites
Mozzarella 40 g
Woolworths tomato paste 1 satchel
Pineapple 30 g
Diet Coke 1 can

Macros (approx.):
~430 kcal | 32 g P | 55–60 g C | 10–12 g F

Pre-Workout — ~ 830pm
Item Amount
VPA whey 2 scoops
Heart Active milk 100–150 g

Macros (approx.):
~300–330 kcal | 53–56 g P | 8–12 g C | 5–6 g F

Post-Workout — 10pm
Item Amount
VPA whey 2 scoops
Jalna Greek yoghurt 200 g

Macros (approx.):
~380–400 kcal | 55–60 g P | 10–12 g C | 6–7 g F

Drinks (throughout day)
Item Amount
Espresso coffee 1
Diet Coke 1 can

(Calories/macros negligible)


Against Training-Day Targets
Metric Target Actual Status
Calories ~2,800 ~2,350–2,450 Light deficit
Protein 210–230 g ~215–225 g On target
Carbs 260–320 g ~230–235 g Slightly low
Fat 60–80 g ~52–58 g Slightly low


Daily carb balance
~40–45% of carbs by 10:00
~65–70% by 12:30
~90%+ by 15:30
 
Ahhh makes sense..I've watched AFL on YouTube and you guys are fukn badasses! People always talk about the NFL being so hardcore. Watch some AFL in Aus or NLL in Canada. Much tougher sports
I dunno I wouldn't want to be on the end of one of those NFL helmets being launched at me like a missile! 😬

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@LevButlerov Re: supps. The only supps I take are mentioned in first post:

Multivitamin
Vitamin D
Potassium
Magnesium morning and sleep time.

I am not particularly schooled in this area as yet.
add psyllium husk probiotics digestive enzymes daily with vitamin C 2000mgs @WillyT
 
Will do re: carbs. Training is usually before sun up. If it switches to the afternoon: carbs around workout or keep them AM fullstop?

Re: training volume: yes thats all one day. Each day is currently about 20-24 sets.
I would do AM and preworkout for extra carbs on training days and AM on non
 
Got jammed up today with the childs schedule. Ripped an oats bowl out of the fridge and had that instead of waiting for dinner.
I make four of those bowls at a time and they sit in the fridge. I also have a whole load frozen.

Breakfast

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The "pizza" below is three mountain breads glued together with egg whites. The egg whites fluff it up. Sounds sketch but it does the job and doesn't bomb you out for the day. That whole thing is 450cals only.

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13 Dec 2025

Breakfast — 07:00
Item Amount
Eggs 4
Heart Active milk 10 g
Spinach 200 g
Chilli flakes 5g
Vegeta seasoning 3 g
Italian herbs 5g
Tasty shredded cheese 10 g

Macros (approx.):
~360 kcal | 33 g P | 10 g C | 22 g F

Snack — 10:00
Item Amount
Turkish delight 1 serve
Espresso coffee 1 shot

Macros (approx.):
~378 kcal | ~90–95 g C | 0 g P | 0 g F

Lunch — 12:30
Item Amount
Overnight oats bowl oats: Jalna Greek yoghurt, berries, milk, whey 1 serve
Sugar-free syrup 5g

Macros (approx.):
~520 kcal | 45 g P | 55–60 g C | 10–12 g F

Early Dinner (“Pizza”) — 15:30
Item Amount
Mountain Bread wraps 3
Egg whites (painted on base) ~2 whites
Mozzarella 40 g
Woolworths tomato paste 1 satchel
Pineapple 30 g
Diet Coke 1 can

Macros (approx.):
~430 kcal | 32 g P | 55–60 g C | 10–12 g F

Pre-Workout — ~ 830pm
Item Amount
VPA whey 2 scoops
Heart Active milk 100–150 g

Macros (approx.):
~300–330 kcal | 53–56 g P | 8–12 g C | 5–6 g F

Post-Workout — 10pm
Item Amount
VPA whey 2 scoops
Jalna Greek yoghurt 200 g

Macros (approx.):
~380–400 kcal | 55–60 g P | 10–12 g C | 6–7 g F

Drinks (throughout day)
Item Amount
Espresso coffee 1
Diet Coke 1 can

(Calories/macros negligible)


Against Training-Day Targets
Metric Target Actual Status
Calories ~2,800 ~2,350–2,450 Light deficit
Protein 210–230 g ~215–225 g On target
Carbs 260–320 g ~230–235 g Slightly low
Fat 60–80 g ~52–58 g Slightly low


Daily carb balance
~40–45% of carbs by 10:00
~65–70% by 12:30
~90%+ by 15:30
That carb load will work but what time you in bed? @WillyT
You're doing too much volume you need to cut this at least 30%
 
12 Dec 2025

Pre-Workout (06:00)
Item Amount
Heart Active milk 150 g
VPA whey 32 g
Macros: ~210 kcal · 32 g P · 12 g C · 4 g F

Breakfast (09:00)
Item Amount
Overnight oats (oats, Jalna Greek yoghurt, berries, milk, whey) 1 serve
Cinnamon sugar small amount

Macros: ~525 kcal · 45 g P · 60 g C · 12 g F

Lunch (13:00)
Item Amount
Chicken tenderloin 243 g
Spud Lite potatoes 310 g
Nuttelex buttery 28 g
Broccoli 154 g
Chives 5 g
Macros: ~770 kcal · 61 g P · 62 g C · 28 g F

Snack (14:00)
Item Amount
Whittaker’s Dark Chocolate Rum & Raisin 3 pieces
Macros: ~175 kcal · 1 g P · 12 g C · 12 g F

Dinner (≈18:30)
Item Amount
Beef tenderloin 206 g
Cooked rice 232 g
Green beans 180 g
HP sauce 30 g
Macros: ~650 kcal · 50 g P · 81 g C · 10 g F

Dessert (Evening)
Item Amount
VPA whey 2 scoops (64 g)
Jalna Greek yoghurt 100 g
Mixed berries 100 g
Macros: ~405 kcal · 51 g P · 20 g C · 6 g F

Drinks (Throughout Day)
Item Amount
Espresso coffee 4 shots
Diet Coke 1 can
(Calories/macros negligible)

Daily Totals
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
~2,735 kcal ~240 g ~247 g ~72 g
Against Training-Day Targets
Metric Target Actual Status
Calories ~2,800 ~2,735 On target
Protein 210–230 g ~240 g Slightly high
Carbs 260–320 g ~247 g Slightly low
Fat 60–80 g ~72 g On target

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Nice looking meals mate.
 
14 Dec 2025 (Rest Day)
07:00 — Breakfast
Overnight oats (usual concoction)
Oats (~60–65 g), Jalna (~100 g), milk (~150 g), whey (1 scoop), berries (~80 g)
Macros (approx):
520 kcal | 45 g P | 55–60 g C | 10–12 g F

11:45 — Mid-Morning Lunch
Oporto chicken salad — extra chicken
(Pepsi Max)
Macros (approx):
450–500 kcal | 45–55 g P | 15–25 g C | 20–25 g F

12:30 — The Kids Party "No thanks I don't want cake" snack
Ice-cream cake — 100 g
Macros (approx):
260–300 kcal | 3–4 g P | 30–35 g C | 15–18 g F

14:45 — Second Lunch/early dinner
Green beans 200 g
Cooked rice 241 g
Chicken tenderloin 246 g
Nando’s Peri-Peri Salt: 3 g
Macros (approx):
560–600 kcal | 60–65 g P | 75–77 g C | 5–7 g F

16:30 — Close
Jalna Greek yoghurt 200 g
Whey protein 2 scoops
Macros (approx):
380–400 kcal | 55–60 g P | 10–12 g C | 6–7 g F

Metric Expected Target Actual Intake Status
Calories 2,300–2,400 kcal ~2,200–2,300 kcal Slightly under
Protein 210–230 g ~210–225 g On target
Carbs 150–200 g ~185–210 g On target
Fat 70–90 g ~56–69 g Slightly low


Carb disto
Time Meal Carbs (g) % of Daily Carbs Cumulative %
07:00 Breakfast (overnight oats) 55–60 28–30% 28–30%
11:45 Oporto chicken salad 15–25 8–13% 36–43%
12:30 Ice-cream cake 30–35 15–18% 51–61%
14:45 Rice + green beans 75–77 38–39% 89–100%
Evening Jalna + whey 10–12 5–6% 100%


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11:27 AM
EVO Crew!

First log. This feels like an auto-dump but it has been quite a useful and cathartic process. It shows me I have actually come quite far. Also, some of it may be a little off topic but useful for others.

Age 45
Loc Sydney, Australia.
Height 196cm, 6' 5"
Weight 96kg, 211lbs (down from 132kg, 291 lb as at 1 Jul 2024).
BF% 20% using Evolt Body Scanner.




Current regime

All injectables are currently subq.

TRT 150 mg/week split MON, WED, FRI.
HGH 2IU AM daily.


Retatrutide 2500mcg/week.
Glow70 4IU daily.
MT2 currently EOD for summer.


Tadalafil5mg+VitD3600iu+Zinc15mg EOD.

Semax 600mcg daily.
Methylene Blue 3 drops.
Creatine 2g daily.
(all see cognitive)


Clonadine 100mcg.
Solifenacin Succinate ("Vesicare") 5mg .
Melatonin modified release. 10mg.
(all see sleep)


Meloxicam 15mg daily (see injuries).

Multivitamin
Vitamin D
Potassium
Magnesium morning and sleep time.



Bloods
Most recent bloods are TRT 135mg/w and HGH 2IUs per day.
As above I have since returned to TRT 150 mg/w and my overall disposition has improved.




DateTotal T (nmol/L)Free T (pmol/L)Estradiol (pmol/L)LH / FSHLDL (mmol/L)Trigs (mmol/L)HctNeutrophils (×10⁹/L)ALT / AST (U/L)Glucose (mmol/L)Notes
27 Jul 202313.6303162 ↑3.01.80.443.7ALT 34 / AST 254.8Pre TRT.
17 Nov 202347.7 ↑1411 ↑126LH <1 / FSH <13.1 ↑2.3 ↑0.462.1ALT 33 / AST 285.1Test 150mg/w (split2) +HCG+Exemestane.
Jan 202427.1860 ↑98LH <1 / FSH ~13.3 ↑2.2 ↑0.453.1ALT 27 / AST 244.9Switched providers. There was no pause. Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Jul 202443.0 ↑1244 ↑362 ↑↑LH <1 / FSH <12.51.40.462.1ALT 25 / AST 245.1Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Aug 202450.9 ↑1380 ↑299 ↑LH <1 / FSH <12.41.00.472.1ALT 26 / AST 245.2Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Mar 202541.2 ↑1162 ↑252 ↑LH <1 / FSH <12.61.10.461.7 ↓ALT 23 / AST 245.2Test Cyp. 150mg/w (split3). Drop AI+HCG.
Jul 202538.1 ↑957 ↑278 ↑LH <1 / FSH <11.40.471.8 ↓ALT 23 / AST 244.9Clinic drops TRT to 135mg/w.
4 Dec 2025 26.3624185LH <0.1 / FSH <12.20.80.461.8 ↓ALT 26 / AST 294.0+HGH 2IU. TRT @ 135mg/w.


Diet

Noticed great improvement in my bloods once I really cleaned up my act here. Still lots to learn and much to implement. This change for me was from Jul 2025 onwards only. Prior it was just whatever kept me under the macros.

The increased carbs is in line with the start of HGH and post the TRT Clinic dropping of my Test C to see if it made a difference to my mood. Energy up but no improvement in mood.

From 120+ kgs down to 98kgs I was on a reasonably severe calory deficit and I broke it often which told me it wasn't quite what I needed.

Currently I am on a training day, non-training day split. Lost about 2kg since being on this and feel more capable.


CaloriesProteinCarbsFat
Training~2,800210–230 g260–320 g60–80 g
Light / Rest2,300–2,400190–210 g150–200 g70–90 g



Injuries

A lot of poorly dealt with injuries from previous career. There are some contact injuries but it appears to mostly be chronic traction/overuse.

Mortons neuroma: I cannot feel most of the front 1/3 of my feet. It becomes particularly bad 20k+ steps.
Left shoulder: popped in and out multiple times in my 20s. Was never dealt with properly and has never truly sat right ever since. This is largely managed by me now. It works and I can train with it. It is next on my list of broken shit to be looked at next (further discussed in aesthetics).


Knees: loose bone fragments and ossific spurring at many of the attachments.
Hips: there is some bone remodelling there. There is limited space between the "socket" and the inner topmost part of the ball in my left hip.


The knees are only ever painful when my hip is playing up. This has gone on for decades but has been extremely painful recently to the point where I cannot manage it myself. Its now being managed by a physician and surgeon. I am cleared to train with limitations. The meloxicam was instantly helpful for the pain. It is a trial and a stopgap prior to MRI and next consult.

There are other injuries but the above is what I consider limits my training.

All this is to say if you see some odd crap in my program, the above is probably why it is there.



Training

Combination of hypertrophy and pre/re-hab training.

Day 1 Upper push
Day 2 Quads + calves
Day 3 Push chest delts tris
Day 4 Pull back biceps
Day 5 Hams + glutes
Day 6 Upper pull
Day 7 rest/active recovery


I train in my home gym. It will do the job for the foreseeable future especially with my injury restrictions. The only piece of equipment I truly miss is a seated leg curl machine and leg press. My Force USA G20 uses the foot plate that clicks onto the smith machine bar. It feels sketch.

My restrictions will not preclude me from lifting heavy (for where I'm at now). Trained heavily throughout my teens, 20s and 30s with most of the fat gain in the last 6 years.

On my shopping list is an elliptical. I do no true cardio. I used to pull a sled, particularly backwards was usually very good for my knees and hips. Steps forwards 10k+ really aggravates my situation unfortunately. I do backwards walking on my treadmill. Its not really cardio, more prehab. Nowhere near as good as the sled work in my old gym.


Cognitive and mood

I am very likely undiagnosed depression and ADHD. For better or for worse I present as totally fine and my GP treats me as such. I will admit to having tried my childs 10mg Ritalin on multiple occasions. Apparently this is quite common and how adults end up getting themselves tested and on that train. If my mood is so low (and its not that often) I will not self start, I will use it. I have not had to use it since my creatine, methylene blue and semax regime which has been over two months now.

I realise the methylene blue may be hitting tinfoil hat levels for most and having seen the footage of RFK Junior smashing the piss out of it, I was quite suspicious. All I can say is if it weren't working for me I wouldn’t still be doing it. The Semax by itself did not seem to do much for me. Certainly not against Ritalin. However, I do note greater capacity to concentrate and importantly FINISH tasks whilst on it.

As an aside and in case someone is dealing with this: I was very apprehensive about "drugging" my primary school child. However, they have gone from a very much at risk student (some of the details would frighten any parent) to one of the top performers. That tiny dose of ritalin (along with the right guidance and leadership of course) straightened my child up just enough to give them the space to breath, operate and most importantly believe in their own ability and understand their own worth. Not preaching just putting it out there.


Sleep

I am winning here after decades of struggles. Started when I shift-worked in my 20s. Seemed "doable" until I got a wife, child and responsibility!

Initial sleep study 2024: ~80 RDI and AHI: 477 apneas, mostly obstructive, 140 hypopneas.
Conclusion: "very severe obstructive sleep apnoea with severe accompanying oxygen desaturation".
Their solution: a $3500 CPAP setup. I didn’t qualify so had to pay for it out of pocket. It did nothing to help and I could not use it.
An x-ray later an ENT was repairing a broken nose I didn’t know I had and he shaved the turbinates to make even more room. I now have to Fighter jet intakes.


I do use the CPAP now. Mostly to monitor and collect data. I need to assess its efficacy re: Blood oxygen.

The clonidine melatonin combination gets me to sleep. Clonidine is a hypertensive becoming popular for ADHD "sufferers" and their sleeping woes. I have high normal BP.

The Vesicare is an overactive bladder medication. I would often wake at 2,3am like a lot of people and then not be able to head back to sleep. Having found no renal issues my GP agreed to try Vesicare to see if retraining myself and a potentially OAB would work. Only been on this for two weeks but there have been a few nights where I have slept through. This is a WIP but looking promising.

Aesthetics

I have a lot of assymterical vascularity: differing on front and back, left and right appendages. Other than that I would say I look very similar to @RizzleDizzle from his first log except I have some side saddles and my rolled left shoulder gives me side boob. I cannot hold the shoulder in a posture that makes it look completely normal and reasonably symmetrical. My solution: continued fat loss and increase chest and lat etc. My skin has bounced back for the most part. I really have made a mess of my body not prioritising myself but onwards and upwards.

Proposed cycle

12 weeks

400mg/week Test E. **I have a vial of Clinic Test C remaining. Use or shelve?
200mg EQ weekly.


2IU HGH daily AM ongoing.

Blood test every 4 weeks.

To do list

Rework vitamin supps, investigate liver support, -biotics, AI(?) and TB5080+BPC157 (have on hand). Cardio!

Thank you for reading!
Congratulations on the cycle
 
14 Dec 2025 (Rest Day)
07:00 — Breakfast
Overnight oats (usual concoction)
Oats (~60–65 g), Jalna (~100 g), milk (~150 g), whey (1 scoop), berries (~80 g)
Macros (approx):
520 kcal | 45 g P | 55–60 g C | 10–12 g F

11:45 — Mid-Morning Lunch
Oporto chicken salad — extra chicken
(Pepsi Max)
Macros (approx):
450–500 kcal | 45–55 g P | 15–25 g C | 20–25 g F

12:30 — The Kids Party "No thanks I don't want cake" snack
Ice-cream cake — 100 g
Macros (approx):
260–300 kcal | 3–4 g P | 30–35 g C | 15–18 g F

14:45 — Second Lunch/early dinner
Green beans 200 g
Cooked rice 241 g
Chicken tenderloin 246 g
Nando’s Peri-Peri Salt: 3 g
Macros (approx):
560–600 kcal | 60–65 g P | 75–77 g C | 5–7 g F

16:30 — Close
Jalna Greek yoghurt 200 g
Whey protein 2 scoops
Macros (approx):
380–400 kcal | 55–60 g P | 10–12 g C | 6–7 g F

Metric Expected Target Actual Intake Status
Calories 2,300–2,400 kcal ~2,200–2,300 kcal Slightly under
Protein 210–230 g ~210–225 g On target
Carbs 150–200 g ~185–210 g On target
Fat 70–90 g ~56–69 g Slightly low


Carb disto
Time Meal Carbs (g) % of Daily Carbs Cumulative %
07:00 Breakfast (overnight oats) 55–60 28–30% 28–30%
11:45 Oporto chicken salad 15–25 8–13% 36–43%
12:30 Ice-cream cake 30–35 15–18% 51–61%
14:45 Rice + green beans 75–77 38–39% 89–100%
Evening Jalna + whey 10–12 5–6% 100%


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Meals look good but fats can go up here lets boost @WillyT omega 3 fats
 
@LevButlerov
2000mg Vit C commenced today.
3 x Fish Oil tablets per day commenced today. (Totals: EPA: 1,389 mg; DHA: 693 mg; Total EPA+DHA: 2.08 g). Will add salmon once a week.

re: sleep: usually anywhere between 2130 and 2230 unless schedule blows out.

Probiotics: ordered.

Training update: rest day yesterday. Today might be a write-off unless its a late training session. Surgeon has my new set of MRI scans so heading in this afternoon.

Training volume: 30% dropped. Starting with upper push day 3 sets and then dropping to 2 working sets for everything else. Never trained like this before. Maybe I'll like it? 😬
 
14 Dec 2025 (Rest Day)
07:00 — Breakfast
Overnight oats (usual concoction)
Oats (~60–65 g), Jalna (~100 g), milk (~150 g), whey (1 scoop), berries (~80 g)
Macros (approx):
520 kcal | 45 g P | 55–60 g C | 10–12 g F

11:45 — Mid-Morning Lunch
Oporto chicken salad — extra chicken
(Pepsi Max)
Macros (approx):
450–500 kcal | 45–55 g P | 15–25 g C | 20–25 g F

12:30 — The Kids Party "No thanks I don't want cake" snack
Ice-cream cake — 100 g
Macros (approx):
260–300 kcal | 3–4 g P | 30–35 g C | 15–18 g F

14:45 — Second Lunch/early dinner
Green beans 200 g
Cooked rice 241 g
Chicken tenderloin 246 g
Nando’s Peri-Peri Salt: 3 g
Macros (approx):
560–600 kcal | 60–65 g P | 75–77 g C | 5–7 g F

16:30 — Close
Jalna Greek yoghurt 200 g
Whey protein 2 scoops
Macros (approx):
380–400 kcal | 55–60 g P | 10–12 g C | 6–7 g F

Metric Expected Target Actual Intake Status
Calories 2,300–2,400 kcal ~2,200–2,300 kcal Slightly under
Protein 210–230 g ~210–225 g On target
Carbs 150–200 g ~185–210 g On target
Fat 70–90 g ~56–69 g Slightly low


Carb disto
Time Meal Carbs (g) % of Daily Carbs Cumulative %
07:00 Breakfast (overnight oats) 55–60 28–30% 28–30%
11:45 Oporto chicken salad 15–25 8–13% 36–43%
12:30 Ice-cream cake 30–35 15–18% 51–61%
14:45 Rice + green beans 75–77 38–39% 89–100%
Evening Jalna + whey 10–12 5–6% 100%


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@WillyT really nice job on the meals that you're putting together. The chicken, rice, and beans is simple but effective.
 
14 Dec 2025 (Rest Day)
07:00 — Breakfast
Overnight oats (usual concoction)
Oats (~60–65 g), Jalna (~100 g), milk (~150 g), whey (1 scoop), berries (~80 g)
Macros (approx):
520 kcal | 45 g P | 55–60 g C | 10–12 g F

11:45 — Mid-Morning Lunch
Oporto chicken salad — extra chicken
(Pepsi Max)
Macros (approx):
450–500 kcal | 45–55 g P | 15–25 g C | 20–25 g F

12:30 — The Kids Party "No thanks I don't want cake" snack
Ice-cream cake — 100 g
Macros (approx):
260–300 kcal | 3–4 g P | 30–35 g C | 15–18 g F

14:45 — Second Lunch/early dinner
Green beans 200 g
Cooked rice 241 g
Chicken tenderloin 246 g
Nando’s Peri-Peri Salt: 3 g
Macros (approx):
560–600 kcal | 60–65 g P | 75–77 g C | 5–7 g F

16:30 — Close
Jalna Greek yoghurt 200 g
Whey protein 2 scoops
Macros (approx):
380–400 kcal | 55–60 g P | 10–12 g C | 6–7 g F

Metric Expected Target Actual Intake Status
Calories 2,300–2,400 kcal ~2,200–2,300 kcal Slightly under
Protein 210–230 g ~210–225 g On target
Carbs 150–200 g ~185–210 g On target
Fat 70–90 g ~56–69 g Slightly low


Carb disto
Time Meal Carbs (g) % of Daily Carbs Cumulative %
07:00 Breakfast (overnight oats) 55–60 28–30% 28–30%
11:45 Oporto chicken salad 15–25 8–13% 36–43%
12:30 Ice-cream cake 30–35 15–18% 51–61%
14:45 Rice + green beans 75–77 38–39% 89–100%
Evening Jalna + whey 10–12 5–6% 100%


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Nice job being honest about the ice cream cake. It definitely happens. When my daughter was young, I used to indulge myself with cake every now and then. @WillyT
 
14 Dec 2025 (Rest Day)
07:00 — Breakfast
Overnight oats (usual concoction)
Oats (~60–65 g), Jalna (~100 g), milk (~150 g), whey (1 scoop), berries (~80 g)
Macros (approx):
520 kcal | 45 g P | 55–60 g C | 10–12 g F

11:45 — Mid-Morning Lunch
Oporto chicken salad — extra chicken
(Pepsi Max)
Macros (approx):
450–500 kcal | 45–55 g P | 15–25 g C | 20–25 g F

12:30 — The Kids Party "No thanks I don't want cake" snack
Ice-cream cake — 100 g
Macros (approx):
260–300 kcal | 3–4 g P | 30–35 g C | 15–18 g F

14:45 — Second Lunch/early dinner
Green beans 200 g
Cooked rice 241 g
Chicken tenderloin 246 g
Nando’s Peri-Peri Salt: 3 g
Macros (approx):
560–600 kcal | 60–65 g P | 75–77 g C | 5–7 g F

16:30 — Close
Jalna Greek yoghurt 200 g
Whey protein 2 scoops
Macros (approx):
380–400 kcal | 55–60 g P | 10–12 g C | 6–7 g F

Metric Expected Target Actual Intake Status
Calories 2,300–2,400 kcal ~2,200–2,300 kcal Slightly under
Protein 210–230 g ~210–225 g On target
Carbs 150–200 g ~185–210 g On target
Fat 70–90 g ~56–69 g Slightly low


Carb disto
Time Meal Carbs (g) % of Daily Carbs Cumulative %
07:00 Breakfast (overnight oats) 55–60 28–30% 28–30%
11:45 Oporto chicken salad 15–25 8–13% 36–43%
12:30 Ice-cream cake 30–35 15–18% 51–61%
14:45 Rice + green beans 75–77 38–39% 89–100%
Evening Jalna + whey 10–12 5–6% 100%


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Bros, this a good little meal you put together @WillyT I got a lot of respect for that. You keep that up, you're going to keep putting on quality muscle and burning fat.
 
14 Dec 2025 (Rest Day)
07:00 — Breakfast
Overnight oats (usual concoction)
Oats (~60–65 g), Jalna (~100 g), milk (~150 g), whey (1 scoop), berries (~80 g)
Macros (approx):
520 kcal | 45 g P | 55–60 g C | 10–12 g F

11:45 — Mid-Morning Lunch
Oporto chicken salad — extra chicken
(Pepsi Max)
Macros (approx):
450–500 kcal | 45–55 g P | 15–25 g C | 20–25 g F

12:30 — The Kids Party "No thanks I don't want cake" snack
Ice-cream cake — 100 g
Macros (approx):
260–300 kcal | 3–4 g P | 30–35 g C | 15–18 g F

14:45 — Second Lunch/early dinner
Green beans 200 g
Cooked rice 241 g
Chicken tenderloin 246 g
Nando’s Peri-Peri Salt: 3 g
Macros (approx):
560–600 kcal | 60–65 g P | 75–77 g C | 5–7 g F

16:30 — Close
Jalna Greek yoghurt 200 g
Whey protein 2 scoops
Macros (approx):
380–400 kcal | 55–60 g P | 10–12 g C | 6–7 g F

Metric Expected Target Actual Intake Status
Calories 2,300–2,400 kcal ~2,200–2,300 kcal Slightly under
Protein 210–230 g ~210–225 g On target
Carbs 150–200 g ~185–210 g On target
Fat 70–90 g ~56–69 g Slightly low


Carb disto
Time Meal Carbs (g) % of Daily Carbs Cumulative %
07:00 Breakfast (overnight oats) 55–60 28–30% 28–30%
11:45 Oporto chicken salad 15–25 8–13% 36–43%
12:30 Ice-cream cake 30–35 15–18% 51–61%
14:45 Rice + green beans 75–77 38–39% 89–100%
Evening Jalna + whey 10–12 5–6% 100%


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@WillyT nice job on the meal choices. The only thing I can criticize you on is the coke and also the ice cream cake, but I understand what you're doing here and that's very cool that you're being honest about it.
 
14 Dec 2025 (Rest Day)
07:00 — Breakfast
Overnight oats (usual concoction)
Oats (~60–65 g), Jalna (~100 g), milk (~150 g), whey (1 scoop), berries (~80 g)
Macros (approx):
520 kcal | 45 g P | 55–60 g C | 10–12 g F

11:45 — Mid-Morning Lunch
Oporto chicken salad — extra chicken
(Pepsi Max)
Macros (approx):
450–500 kcal | 45–55 g P | 15–25 g C | 20–25 g F

12:30 — The Kids Party "No thanks I don't want cake" snack
Ice-cream cake — 100 g
Macros (approx):
260–300 kcal | 3–4 g P | 30–35 g C | 15–18 g F

14:45 — Second Lunch/early dinner
Green beans 200 g
Cooked rice 241 g
Chicken tenderloin 246 g
Nando’s Peri-Peri Salt: 3 g
Macros (approx):
560–600 kcal | 60–65 g P | 75–77 g C | 5–7 g F

16:30 — Close
Jalna Greek yoghurt 200 g
Whey protein 2 scoops
Macros (approx):
380–400 kcal | 55–60 g P | 10–12 g C | 6–7 g F

Metric Expected Target Actual Intake Status
Calories 2,300–2,400 kcal ~2,200–2,300 kcal Slightly under
Protein 210–230 g ~210–225 g On target
Carbs 150–200 g ~185–210 g On target
Fat 70–90 g ~56–69 g Slightly low


Carb disto
Time Meal Carbs (g) % of Daily Carbs Cumulative %
07:00 Breakfast (overnight oats) 55–60 28–30% 28–30%
11:45 Oporto chicken salad 15–25 8–13% 36–43%
12:30 Ice-cream cake 30–35 15–18% 51–61%
14:45 Rice + green beans 75–77 38–39% 89–100%
Evening Jalna + whey 10–12 5–6% 100%


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Oats and fruit is a really good option. It's a great way to get more carbs, and also fruit has good antioxidants, especially berries. @WillyT
 
@LevButlerov
2000mg Vit C commenced today.
3 x Fish Oil tablets per day commenced today. (Totals: EPA: 1,389 mg; DHA: 693 mg; Total EPA+DHA: 2.08 g). Will add salmon once a week.

re: sleep: usually anywhere between 2130 and 2230 unless schedule blows out.

Probiotics: ordered.

Training update: rest day yesterday. Today might be a write-off unless its a late training session. Surgeon has my new set of MRI scans so heading in this afternoon.

Training volume: 30% dropped. Starting with upper push day 3 sets and then dropping to 2 working sets for everything else. Never trained like this before. Maybe I'll like it? 😬
Yes start dropping the volume, smart not to overtrain and get some pics of when vitamins come @WillyT
 
14 Dec 2025 (Rest Day)
07:00 — Breakfast
Overnight oats (usual concoction)
Oats (~60–65 g), Jalna (~100 g), milk (~150 g), whey (1 scoop), berries (~80 g)
Macros (approx):
520 kcal | 45 g P | 55–60 g C | 10–12 g F

11:45 — Mid-Morning Lunch
Oporto chicken salad — extra chicken
(Pepsi Max)
Macros (approx):
450–500 kcal | 45–55 g P | 15–25 g C | 20–25 g F

12:30 — The Kids Party "No thanks I don't want cake" snack
Ice-cream cake — 100 g
Macros (approx):
260–300 kcal | 3–4 g P | 30–35 g C | 15–18 g F

14:45 — Second Lunch/early dinner
Green beans 200 g
Cooked rice 241 g
Chicken tenderloin 246 g
Nando’s Peri-Peri Salt: 3 g
Macros (approx):
560–600 kcal | 60–65 g P | 75–77 g C | 5–7 g F

16:30 — Close
Jalna Greek yoghurt 200 g
Whey protein 2 scoops
Macros (approx):
380–400 kcal | 55–60 g P | 10–12 g C | 6–7 g F

Metric Expected Target Actual Intake Status
Calories 2,300–2,400 kcal ~2,200–2,300 kcal Slightly under
Protein 210–230 g ~210–225 g On target
Carbs 150–200 g ~185–210 g On target
Fat 70–90 g ~56–69 g Slightly low


Carb disto
Time Meal Carbs (g) % of Daily Carbs Cumulative %
07:00 Breakfast (overnight oats) 55–60 28–30% 28–30%
11:45 Oporto chicken salad 15–25 8–13% 36–43%
12:30 Ice-cream cake 30–35 15–18% 51–61%
14:45 Rice + green beans 75–77 38–39% 89–100%
Evening Jalna + whey 10–12 5–6% 100%


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@WillyT some really good training in this update. There’s some good staple meals there also
 
16 Dec 2025

Today was a bit of a mess again so distro is off. Targets met though.

5am Early pre-workout
Banana (medium)
VPA whey – 2 scoops
Approx macros:
~345 kcal | ~49 g protein | ~33 g carbs | ~4 g fat

Fish oil – 3 capsules
(~30 kcal | ~3 g fat)

Breakfast 8am & 11am (eaten over two sittings due to meetings)
Egg & sausage wrap
Large white wrap
2 whole eggs
1 cup egg whites
Spinach
2 sausages
~15–20 g cheese
Approx macros:
~830–850 kcal | ~63 g protein | ~44 g carbs | ~45 g fat

Dinner 4pm
Homemade Pad Thai (photo-based)
Rice noodles (~60 g dry equiv)
Chicken (~50–60 g cooked)
Small amount egg
Light sauce + oil
Broccoli on side
Approx macros:
~470–480 kcal | ~25 g protein | ~68 g carbs | ~12 g fat

Evening 6pm
Cereal
2 Weet-Bix
200 ml Heart Active milk
Approx macros:
~240 kcal | ~11 g protein | ~45 g carbs | ~2 g fat

Late shake 6pm
VPA whey – 2.5 scoops
Water
Approx macros:
~300 kcal | ~60 g protein | ~8 g carbs | ~5 g fat

Final vs training-day targets
Targets: 2,800 kcal · 220 g protein · 300 g carbs · 80 g fat
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
Actual ~2,690–2,720 ~250–255 ~231–233 ~79
Δ −80 to −110 +30 to +35 −65 to −69 −1

Carb distribution — by eating occasion
Order Meal Carbs (g) % of daily carbs Cumulative %
1 Breakfast (egg & sausage wrap) ~44 19% 19%
2 Pre-workout (banana + whey) ~33 14% 33%
3 Dinner (Pad Thai) ~68 29% 62%
4 Evening cereal (2 Weet-Bix + milk)~45 19% 81%
5 PM shake (2 scoops whey) ~6 3% 84%
— Other minor carbs / rounding ~36 16% 100%
TOTAL ~232 g 100% —
 
16 Dec 2025

Today was a bit of a mess again so distro is off. Targets met though.

5am Early pre-workout
Banana (medium)
VPA whey – 2 scoops
Approx macros:
~345 kcal | ~49 g protein | ~33 g carbs | ~4 g fat

Fish oil – 3 capsules
(~30 kcal | ~3 g fat)

Breakfast 8am & 11am (eaten over two sittings due to meetings)
Egg & sausage wrap
Large white wrap
2 whole eggs
1 cup egg whites
Spinach
2 sausages
~15–20 g cheese
Approx macros:
~830–850 kcal | ~63 g protein | ~44 g carbs | ~45 g fat

Dinner 4pm
Homemade Pad Thai (photo-based)
Rice noodles (~60 g dry equiv)
Chicken (~50–60 g cooked)
Small amount egg
Light sauce + oil
Broccoli on side
Approx macros:
~470–480 kcal | ~25 g protein | ~68 g carbs | ~12 g fat

Evening 6pm
Cereal
2 Weet-Bix
200 ml Heart Active milk
Approx macros:
~240 kcal | ~11 g protein | ~45 g carbs | ~2 g fat

Late shake 6pm
VPA whey – 2.5 scoops
Water
Approx macros:
~300 kcal | ~60 g protein | ~8 g carbs | ~5 g fat

Final vs training-day targets
Targets: 2,800 kcal · 220 g protein · 300 g carbs · 80 g fat
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
Actual ~2,690–2,720 ~250–255 ~231–233 ~79
Δ −80 to −110 +30 to +35 −65 to −69 −1

Carb distribution — by eating occasion
Order Meal Carbs (g) % of daily carbs Cumulative %
1 Breakfast (egg & sausage wrap) ~44 19% 19%
2 Pre-workout (banana + whey) ~33 14% 33%
3 Dinner (Pad Thai) ~68 29% 62%
4 Evening cereal (2 Weet-Bix + milk)~45 19% 81%
5 PM shake (2 scoops whey) ~6 3% 84%
— Other minor carbs / rounding ~36 16% 100%
TOTAL ~232 g 100% —
not bad today I would say, fat protein good balance carbs you can go down and swap weetbix for oatmeal
 
16 Dec 2025

Training good today. 30% reduction is alien

I have a pattern of shoulder, pec major insertion which I find exercises like I have done go ways to relieving the tightness and pain that presents. Its not something I've ever had checked properly but it is on the to do list for the physician looking at my hip and knees.

Cardio: have commenced and will ramp up. Physician says my options are elliptical or something stationery ie. light boxing.

On the hip and knee: I will be trying the hyaluronic acid injection into the joint in an attempt to lubricate. I'll do a proper update on this when I have the latest report in front of me.


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14 Dec 2025 (Rest Day)
07:00 — Breakfast
Overnight oats (usual concoction)
Oats (~60–65 g), Jalna (~100 g), milk (~150 g), whey (1 scoop), berries (~80 g)
Macros (approx):
520 kcal | 45 g P | 55–60 g C | 10–12 g F

11:45 — Mid-Morning Lunch
Oporto chicken salad — extra chicken
(Pepsi Max)
Macros (approx):
450–500 kcal | 45–55 g P | 15–25 g C | 20–25 g F

12:30 — The Kids Party "No thanks I don't want cake" snack
Ice-cream cake — 100 g
Macros (approx):
260–300 kcal | 3–4 g P | 30–35 g C | 15–18 g F

14:45 — Second Lunch/early dinner
Green beans 200 g
Cooked rice 241 g
Chicken tenderloin 246 g
Nando’s Peri-Peri Salt: 3 g
Macros (approx):
560–600 kcal | 60–65 g P | 75–77 g C | 5–7 g F

16:30 — Close
Jalna Greek yoghurt 200 g
Whey protein 2 scoops
Macros (approx):
380–400 kcal | 55–60 g P | 10–12 g C | 6–7 g F

Metric Expected Target Actual Intake Status
Calories 2,300–2,400 kcal ~2,200–2,300 kcal Slightly under
Protein 210–230 g ~210–225 g On target
Carbs 150–200 g ~185–210 g On target
Fat 70–90 g ~56–69 g Slightly low


Carb disto
Time Meal Carbs (g) % of Daily Carbs Cumulative %
07:00 Breakfast (overnight oats) 55–60 28–30% 28–30%
11:45 Oporto chicken salad 15–25 8–13% 36–43%
12:30 Ice-cream cake 30–35 15–18% 51–61%
14:45 Rice + green beans 75–77 38–39% 89–100%
Evening Jalna + whey 10–12 5–6% 100%


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@WillyT This food is absolutely bomb!
 
@LevButlerov Bring the daily carb target down full stop (if so by how much) or if its later in the day and I haven't met carb target go low carb towards the end of the day? Thank you!
If you want to lean out I'd go under 150 carbs and mainly AM pre training @WillyT
 
16 Dec 2025

Training good today. 30% reduction is alien

I have a pattern of shoulder, pec major insertion which I find exercises like I have done go ways to relieving the tightness and pain that presents. Its not something I've ever had checked properly but it is on the to do list for the physician looking at my hip and knees.

Cardio: have commenced and will ramp up. Physician says my options are elliptical or something stationery ie. light boxing.

On the hip and knee: I will be trying the hyaluronic acid injection into the joint in an attempt to lubricate. I'll do a proper update on this when I have the latest report in front of me.


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Good much better to see you doing less volume, but I think we can drop 2-3 more sets just go slow remember we doing a marathon here @WillyT not a sprint
hyaluronic injections? have you done these before?
 
14 Dec 2025 (Rest Day)
07:00 — Breakfast
Overnight oats (usual concoction)
Oats (~60–65 g), Jalna (~100 g), milk (~150 g), whey (1 scoop), berries (~80 g)
Macros (approx):
520 kcal | 45 g P | 55–60 g C | 10–12 g F

11:45 — Mid-Morning Lunch
Oporto chicken salad — extra chicken
(Pepsi Max)
Macros (approx):
450–500 kcal | 45–55 g P | 15–25 g C | 20–25 g F

12:30 — The Kids Party "No thanks I don't want cake" snack
Ice-cream cake — 100 g
Macros (approx):
260–300 kcal | 3–4 g P | 30–35 g C | 15–18 g F

14:45 — Second Lunch/early dinner
Green beans 200 g
Cooked rice 241 g
Chicken tenderloin 246 g
Nando’s Peri-Peri Salt: 3 g
Macros (approx):
560–600 kcal | 60–65 g P | 75–77 g C | 5–7 g F

16:30 — Close
Jalna Greek yoghurt 200 g
Whey protein 2 scoops
Macros (approx):
380–400 kcal | 55–60 g P | 10–12 g C | 6–7 g F

Metric Expected Target Actual Intake Status
Calories 2,300–2,400 kcal ~2,200–2,300 kcal Slightly under
Protein 210–230 g ~210–225 g On target
Carbs 150–200 g ~185–210 g On target
Fat 70–90 g ~56–69 g Slightly low


Carb disto
Time Meal Carbs (g) % of Daily Carbs Cumulative %
07:00 Breakfast (overnight oats) 55–60 28–30% 28–30%
11:45 Oporto chicken salad 15–25 8–13% 36–43%
12:30 Ice-cream cake 30–35 15–18% 51–61%
14:45 Rice + green beans 75–77 38–39% 89–100%
Evening Jalna + whey 10–12 5–6% 100%


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That food is so on point 💪 nicely done 👏
 
17 Dec 2025 Non-training day

Breakfast 0700h
Overnight oats
Rolled oats 50 g
Heart Active milk 150 ml
Frozen berries 80 g
VPA whey 1 scoop
Hemp hearts 5 g
Jalna yoghurt 100 g
Banana 37 g
Calories Protein (g) Carbs (g) Fat (g)
Breakfast ~520 ~35 ~65 ~12
Lunch – Pad Thai leftovers

Rice noodles (primary carb source) 1130h
Small amount chicken
Light sauce
Broccoli ~240 g cooked
Calories Protein (g) Carbs (g) Fat (g)
Lunch ~490 ~25 ~77 ~12


Early Dinner 1530h
Beef 265 g cooked
Brussels sprouts 104 g cooked
Calories Protein (g) Carbs (g) Fat (g)
~480 ~62 ~8 ~22


Evening
Whey + water
VPA whey 2.5 scoops
Calories Protein (g) Carbs (g) Fat (g)
Whey shake ~300 ~60 ~8 ~5
Late meal (≈10 pm)

Late make-up: Omelette 2200h
2 whole eggs
1 cup egg whites
Cheese ~20 g
Calories Protein (g) Carbs (g) Fat (g)
Omelette ~330 ~43 ~1 ~16

Supplements
Fish oil 3 capsules
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
Fish oil ~30 0 0 ~3

Actual vs NON-training day
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
Actual ~2,160–2,190 ~225–230 ~158–159 ~68–72
Target 2,400 220 150 80
Δ −210 to −240 +5 to +10 +8 to +9 −8 to −12

Time Meal Carbs (g) % of total Cumulative %
~7:00 am Breakfast – overnight oats ~65 41% 41%
~12:30 pm Lunch – Pad Thai leftovers ~77 49% 90%
~2:15 pm Early PM – Brussels sprouts ~8 5% 95%
~8:30 pm Evening whey (lactose only) ~7–8 5% ~99%
~10:00 pm Omelette (eggs + whites + cheese) ~1–2 ~1% 100%
TOTAL ~158–159 g 100% —
 
17 Dec 2025 Non-training day

Breakfast 0700h
Overnight oats
Rolled oats 50 g
Heart Active milk 150 ml
Frozen berries 80 g
VPA whey 1 scoop
Hemp hearts 5 g
Jalna yoghurt 100 g
Banana 37 g
Calories Protein (g) Carbs (g) Fat (g)
Breakfast ~520 ~35 ~65 ~12
Lunch – Pad Thai leftovers

Rice noodles (primary carb source) 1130h
Small amount chicken
Light sauce
Broccoli ~240 g cooked
Calories Protein (g) Carbs (g) Fat (g)
Lunch ~490 ~25 ~77 ~12


Early Dinner 1530h
Beef 265 g cooked
Brussels sprouts 104 g cooked
Calories Protein (g) Carbs (g) Fat (g)
~480 ~62 ~8 ~22


Evening
Whey + water
VPA whey 2.5 scoops
Calories Protein (g) Carbs (g) Fat (g)
Whey shake ~300 ~60 ~8 ~5
Late meal (≈10 pm)

Late make-up: Omelette 2200h
2 whole eggs
1 cup egg whites
Cheese ~20 g
Calories Protein (g) Carbs (g) Fat (g)
Omelette ~330 ~43 ~1 ~16

Supplements
Fish oil 3 capsules
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
Fish oil ~30 0 0 ~3

Actual vs NON-training day
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
Actual ~2,160–2,190 ~225–230 ~158–159 ~68–72
Target 2,400 220 150 80
Δ −210 to −240 +5 to +10 +8 to +9 −8 to −12

Time Meal Carbs (g) % of total Cumulative %
~7:00 am Breakfast – overnight oats ~65 41% 41%
~12:30 pm Lunch – Pad Thai leftovers ~77 49% 90%
~2:15 pm Early PM – Brussels sprouts ~8 5% 95%
~8:30 pm Evening whey (lactose only) ~7–8 5% ~99%
~10:00 pm Omelette (eggs + whites + cheese) ~1–2 ~1% 100%
TOTAL ~158–159 g 100% —
can you up the fish oil to 5 caps? i think omega 3 will help your joints here
and can you add scoop of bone broth 2x/day?
 
Todays training a mixed bag. Some real regression particularly on leg extensions. Traditionally one of my strongest exercises has been widdled back to near nothing. Exercises like Split squats I am doing with no weight and assistance to test and just get some movement into there. I definitely felt better after this session aches-wise. Had to turn a few of these exercises into unilateral. Seated calves I couldn't get any real engagement left-side when accompanied by the right. When performed unilateral: all good.

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Todays training a mixed bag. Some real regression particularly on leg extensions. Traditionally one of my strongest exercises has been widdled back to near nothing. Exercises like Split squats I am doing with no weight and assistance to test and just get some movement into there. I definitely felt better after this session aches-wise. Had to turn a few of these exercises into unilateral. Seated calves I couldn't get any real engagement left-side when accompanied by the right. When performed unilateral: all good.

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I think the regression is also related to training a bit too much, can you dial back the volume? @WillyT
 
Didnt meet my calories or fats today.
I feel like I couldnt have eaten another meal. The dinner was a struggle as is.


Breakfast 0730h
Overnight oats
Oats 50 g, milk 150 ml, berries 80 g
VPA whey 1 scoop
Hemp 5 g, Jalna 100 g
Cinnamon sugar (small)
½ banana
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
~590–610 kcal ~35 g ~82–86 g ~12 g

During training — Intra-workout 0900h
VPA RPG Endurance Gel
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
~100 kcal 0 g 25 g 0 g

Post-training / Lunch 1200h
Chicken + Brussels sprouts
Chicken 267 g cooked
Brussels sprouts 119 g cooked
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
~340–360 kcal ~60–65 g ~9–10 g ~5–7 g

Dinner 1700h
Rice + eggs + egg whites
Cooked rice 60 g
Whole eggs 3
Egg whites 2 cups (~500 ml)
Chives
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
~430–450 kcal ~70–73 g ~22–23 g ~15 g

Shake 1830h
VPA whey 2 scoops
Heart Active milk 150 ml
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
~330 kcal ~53 g ~13 g ~7 g

Actuals vs TRAINING day targets
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
Actual ~1,745–1,875 ~220–226 ~149–152 ~42–45
Target 2,800 220 150 80
Δ (Actual − Target) −925 to −1,055 0 to +6 −1 to +2 −35 to −38

Accumulative carbs — grams & percentages
Time Meal Carbs (g) % of daily Cumulative %
0700h Overnight oats + cinnamon sugar + ½ banana ~84 g 56% 56%
0900h During training VPA RPG Endurance gel 25 g 17% 73%
1200h Post-training lunch Brussels sprouts (with chicken) ~10 g 7% 80%
1700h Early dinner Rice + eggs + egg whites ~18 g 11% 89%
1830h Afternoon Whey + milk ~13 g 9% 100%
 
Didnt meet my calories or fats today.
I feel like I couldnt have eaten another meal. The dinner was a struggle as is.


Breakfast 0730h
Overnight oats
Oats 50 g, milk 150 ml, berries 80 g
VPA whey 1 scoop
Hemp 5 g, Jalna 100 g
Cinnamon sugar (small)
½ banana
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
~590–610 kcal ~35 g ~82–86 g ~12 g

During training — Intra-workout 0900h
VPA RPG Endurance Gel
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
~100 kcal 0 g 25 g 0 g

Post-training / Lunch 1200h
Chicken + Brussels sprouts
Chicken 267 g cooked
Brussels sprouts 119 g cooked
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
~340–360 kcal ~60–65 g ~9–10 g ~5–7 g

Dinner 1700h
Rice + eggs + egg whites
Cooked rice 60 g
Whole eggs 3
Egg whites 2 cups (~500 ml)
Chives
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
~430–450 kcal ~70–73 g ~22–23 g ~15 g

Shake 1830h
VPA whey 2 scoops
Heart Active milk 150 ml
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
~330 kcal ~53 g ~13 g ~7 g

Actuals vs TRAINING day targets
Calories Protein Carbs Fat
Actual ~1,745–1,875 ~220–226 ~149–152 ~42–45
Target 2,800 220 150 80
Δ (Actual − Target) −925 to −1,055 0 to +6 −1 to +2 −35 to −38

Accumulative carbs — grams & percentages
Time Meal Carbs (g) % of daily Cumulative %
0700h Overnight oats + cinnamon sugar + ½ banana ~84 g 56% 56%
0900h During training VPA RPG Endurance gel 25 g 17% 73%
1200h Post-training lunch Brussels sprouts (with chicken) ~10 g 7% 80%
1700h Early dinner Rice + eggs + egg whites ~18 g 11% 89%
1830h Afternoon Whey + milk ~13 g 9% 100%
I like the AM oats good choice :D can you add 1 avocado ed with a few walnuts? @WillyT
 
Hip update from MRIs:

Hyaluronic acid injection into my hip in 3 weeks. Conservative management.

"left femoroacetabular impingement, mixed pincer and cam morphology". 25mm of cartilage is gone so bone on bone. Labrum is partially torn and the rest is mashed or ossified. "osteoarthritic changes centred along the posterior-inferior aspect of the hip joint".
 
Hip update from MRIs:

Hyaluronic acid injection into my hip in 3 weeks. Conservative management.

"left femoroacetabular impingement, mixed pincer and cam morphology". 25mm of cartilage is gone so bone on bone. Labrum is partially torn and the rest is mashed or ossified. "osteoarthritic changes centred along the posterior-inferior aspect of the hip joint".
This is fairly serious. @WillyT did you go to a doctor with this?
 
20 Dec 2025

0630h Breakfast
Overnight oats + cinnamon sugar + ½ banana
≈ 600 kcal | P 35 g | C 82 g | F 12 g

0830h Morning shake
VPA whey 2 scoops (water)
≈ 240 kcal | P 48 g | C 4 g | F 3 g

1200h Lunch
Large Aldi wrap + 151 g chicken + 15 g parmesan garlic sauce + spinach 30 g + onion 15 g
≈ 500 kcal | P 41 g | C 48 g | F 16 g

1400h Snack
Coffee + Whittaker’s caramel chocolate (2 pieces)
≈ 115 kcal | P 1 g | C 12 g | F 7 g

1630h Dinner
Salmon 155 g + broccoli 94 g
≈ 355 kcal | P 36 g | C 8 g | F 21 g

1830h Evening
VPA whey 2 scoops (water)
≈ 240 kcal | P 48 g | C 4 g | F 2 g

Macros
Macro Actual Target Difference
Calories ~2,050 2,400 −350 kcal
Protein ~209 g 220 g −11 g
Carbs ~158 g 150 g +8 g
Fat ~61 g 80 g −19 g

Carb
Time Source Carbs (g) % of day Cumulative
6:30 am Overnight oats + banana 82 g 52% 52%
8:30 am Whey (water) 4 g 3% 55%
1230 Lunch Wrap + sauce + veg 48 g 30% 85%
1400 Chocolate 12 g 8% 93%
1700 Dinner Salmon + broccoli 8 g 5% 98%
1830 Evening Whey 4 g 3% 101%*
 
21 Dec 2025

Non-training day. Have been training every second day due to the heat. Have not been hungry for days now. Again, likely the heat.

Still buggering up my carbs and fats but not egregious. Working on it!


0800h Morning — Breakfast
Usual overnight oats
≈ 600 kcal | P 35 g | C 80–85 g | F 12 g

1200h Lunch at the shopping centre
Nando’s paella with extra chicken
≈ 575 kcal | P 48 g | C 48 g | F 11 g

1530h Lunch continued/early dinner
Nando’s protein peri-harvest salad + chicken tenders
≈ 375 kcal | P 43 g | C 18 g | F 14 g

1730h Evening Finisher
VPA whey 2 scoops (water) + ½ avocado
≈ 360 kcal | P 50 g | C 10 g | F 13 g

TOTALS vs TARGETS
Macro Actual Target Δ
Calories ~2,240 2,400 −160 kcal
Protein ~229 g 220 g +9 g
Carbs ~169–174 g 150 g +19–24 g
Fat ~57 g 80 g −23 g

Meal Carbs (g) % of day Cumulative
Breakfast (oats) ~83 48% 48%
Paella ~48 28% 76%
Harvest salad ~18 10% 86%
Whey + milk ~13 8% 94%
Whey + avocado ~10 6% 100%

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20 Dec 2025

0630h Breakfast
Overnight oats + cinnamon sugar + ½ banana
≈ 600 kcal | P 35 g | C 82 g | F 12 g

0830h Morning shake
VPA whey 2 scoops (water)
≈ 240 kcal | P 48 g | C 4 g | F 3 g

1200h Lunch
Large Aldi wrap + 151 g chicken + 15 g parmesan garlic sauce + spinach 30 g + onion 15 g
≈ 500 kcal | P 41 g | C 48 g | F 16 g

1400h Snack
Coffee + Whittaker’s caramel chocolate (2 pieces)
≈ 115 kcal | P 1 g | C 12 g | F 7 g

1630h Dinner
Salmon 155 g + broccoli 94 g
≈ 355 kcal | P 36 g | C 8 g | F 21 g

1830h Evening
VPA whey 2 scoops (water)
≈ 240 kcal | P 48 g | C 4 g | F 2 g

Macros
Macro Actual Target Difference
Calories ~2,050 2,400 −350 kcal
Protein ~209 g 220 g −11 g
Carbs ~158 g 150 g +8 g
Fat ~61 g 80 g −19 g

Carb
Time Source Carbs (g) % of day Cumulative
6:30 am Overnight oats + banana 82 g 52% 52%
8:30 am Whey (water) 4 g 3% 55%
1230 Lunch Wrap + sauce + veg 48 g 30% 85%
1400 Chocolate 12 g 8% 93%
1700 Dinner Salmon + broccoli 8 g 5% 98%
1830 Evening Whey 4 g 3% 101%*

21 Dec 2025

Non-training day. Have been training every second day due to the heat. Have not been hungry for days now. Again, likely the heat.

Still buggering up my carbs and fats but not egregious. Working on it!


0800h Morning — Breakfast
Usual overnight oats
≈ 600 kcal | P 35 g | C 80–85 g | F 12 g

1200h Lunch at the shopping centre
Nando’s paella with extra chicken
≈ 575 kcal | P 48 g | C 48 g | F 11 g

1530h Lunch continued/early dinner
Nando’s protein peri-harvest salad + chicken tenders
≈ 375 kcal | P 43 g | C 18 g | F 14 g

1730h Evening Finisher
VPA whey 2 scoops (water) + ½ avocado
≈ 360 kcal | P 50 g | C 10 g | F 13 g

TOTALS vs TARGETS
Macro Actual Target Δ
Calories ~2,240 2,400 −160 kcal
Protein ~229 g 220 g +9 g
Carbs ~169–174 g 150 g +19–24 g
Fat ~57 g 80 g −23 g

Meal Carbs (g) % of day Cumulative
Breakfast (oats) ~83 48% 48%
Paella ~48 28% 76%
Harvest salad ~18 10% 86%
Whey + milk ~13 8% 94%
Whey + avocado ~10 6% 100%

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Good macros I see improvements all around :D fats are good 80 right?
 
08:30 — Breakfast
Overnight oats + sugar-free maple syrup
≈ 600 kcal | P 35 g | C 80–85 g | F 12 g

11:30 — Lunch
Homemade pad Thai–style (250 g; chicken + small amount tofu)
≈ 500–550 kcal | P 35–40 g | C 45–55 g | F 15–20 g

13:00 — Shake 1
VPA whey 1 scoop (water)
≈ 120 kcal | P 24 g | C ~2 g | F ~1 g

17:30 — Dinner (pre-training)
Beef tenderloin 243 g cooked + broccoli 131 g
≈ 385–400 kcal | P 58–62 g | C 6–7 g | F 9–11 g

19:30 — Shake 2 (pre/intra)
VPA whey 1 scoop (water)
≈ 120 kcal | P 24 g | C ~2 g | F ~1 g

Training
GlicoGel ×8
≈ 95–100 kcal | C ~24 g

22:00 — Shake 3 (post-training)
VPA whey 1 scoop (water)
≈ 120 kcal | P 24 g | C ~2 g | F ~1 g

Totals vs Targets
Metric Actual (Today) Target Difference
Calories ~1,940–2,010 kcal 2,800 kcal −790 to −860 kcal
Protein ~200–210 g 220 g −10 to −20 g
Carbs ~161–177 g 150 g +11 to +27 g
Fat ~39–46 g 80 g −34 to −41 g

Carb
Time Intake Carbs (g) % of Day Cumulative %
08:30 Overnight oats ≈ 82 g 48% 48%
11:30 Pad Thai (250 g) ≈ 50 g 29% 77%
13:00 VPA whey (1 scoop) ≈ 2 g 1% 78%
17:30 Beef + broccoli ≈ 7 g 4% 82%
19:30 VPA whey (1 scoop) ≈ 2 g 1% 96%
Training GlicoGel ×8 ≈ 24 g 14% 97%
22:00 VPA whey (1 scoop) ≈ 2 g 1% 98–100%*
 
steady volume but I noticed missing drop sets there, have you added some? @WillyT and pull ups can you do more?
08:30 — Breakfast
Overnight oats + sugar-free maple syrup
≈ 600 kcal | P 35 g | C 80–85 g | F 12 g

11:30 — Lunch
Homemade pad Thai–style (250 g; chicken + small amount tofu)
≈ 500–550 kcal | P 35–40 g | C 45–55 g | F 15–20 g

13:00 — Shake 1
VPA whey 1 scoop (water)
≈ 120 kcal | P 24 g | C ~2 g | F ~1 g

17:30 — Dinner (pre-training)
Beef tenderloin 243 g cooked + broccoli 131 g
≈ 385–400 kcal | P 58–62 g | C 6–7 g | F 9–11 g

19:30 — Shake 2 (pre/intra)
VPA whey 1 scoop (water)
≈ 120 kcal | P 24 g | C ~2 g | F ~1 g

Training
GlicoGel ×8
≈ 95–100 kcal | C ~24 g

22:00 — Shake 3 (post-training)
VPA whey 1 scoop (water)
≈ 120 kcal | P 24 g | C ~2 g | F ~1 g

Totals vs Targets
Metric Actual (Today) Target Difference
Calories ~1,940–2,010 kcal 2,800 kcal −790 to −860 kcal
Protein ~200–210 g 220 g −10 to −20 g
Carbs ~161–177 g 150 g +11 to +27 g
Fat ~39–46 g 80 g −34 to −41 g

Carb
Time Intake Carbs (g) % of Day Cumulative %
08:30 Overnight oats ≈ 82 g 48% 48%
11:30 Pad Thai (250 g) ≈ 50 g 29% 77%
13:00 VPA whey (1 scoop) ≈ 2 g 1% 78%
17:30 Beef + broccoli ≈ 7 g 4% 82%
19:30 VPA whey (1 scoop) ≈ 2 g 1% 96%
Training GlicoGel ×8 ≈ 24 g 14% 97%
22:00 VPA whey (1 scoop) ≈ 2 g 1% 98–100%*
macros looks good but i think protein is off a bit you need to boost it

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steady volume but I noticed missing drop sets there, have you added some? @WillyT and pull ups can you do more?

macros looks good but i think protein is off a bit you need to boost it

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@LevButlerov Protein: up to 300 and keep everything else the same?

Re: pull ups: the 4 is to technical failure, then 2 to technical failure etc. in groups of 8.
The limiter is my left shoulder stops stabilizing and it becomes right side dominant and everything else starts getting recruited.

I previously did as many sets as I could until I was only able to do singles to technical failure in the clustered set for something like shoulders (which was recently four sets) and then for everything else it was failure to complete the concentric. Some of the secondary or accessory lifts I would not always get this far depending on how the body felt.

Currently its 3 flat sets on the main lift and 2 for everything else, having dropped some exercises to meet the -30%.

Based on your comment: I am thinking clustered for compound and dropsets for isolation. What would you like to see? Always listening and learning.

Thank you as always!
 
Like your training, I am in agreeance with Lev though a bit more protein, I struggle with pull ups a little too, I am focusing on really feeling the contraction with various different pulldown grips
I used band assisted pull ups to figure out what grips work best and how to really connect with my back. Helped a ton
 
@Dreamer I'm not very good at them but boy do they feel good. Especially when everything else in life conspires to crush us into a ball. A bit of traction on the lower back too. Delicious. Out of interest, you're bent at the knees 90degrees for pull ups? Rarely is my reach not longer than the height of most pull up bars!

You'll probably think WTF but I really struggle to sit on the pulldown seat+ and lock in now and if I do I cant get myself the pulldown bar. If I make the bar reach long enough it effects the ROM of the exercise. I can't lean back in the exercise either. The pressure on the pad is too painful. I guess its all part of adapting to the hip issues. Not mastered it for pulldowns yet.

Based on your comment I'm feeling the need to get a set of those Mag Grip style pull down bars. I always found they hit the right spots.

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@BeMe The bands definitely got me to a point but had to dump them recently. I was always too upright meaning I didn't really fit and was always tipping or start swinging with no control and no real sense of the right recruitment. I had the brainwave to start standing on the edge of the bench, wide overhand grip and sort of falling forward and into position. And now I feel it where I should and the form is where I have been hoping to get too. Previously it was recruit whatever muscle would get me up there. The numbers are unimpressive but I am pleased for now. 😅
 
@Dreamer I'm not very good at them but boy do they feel good. Especially when everything else in life conspires to crush us into a ball. A bit of traction on the lower back too. Delicious. Out of interest, you're bent at the knees 90degrees for pull ups? Rarely is my reach not longer than the height of most pull up bars!
Are you saying that without knee bend you would hit the ground? I find for balance (to help stop swinging) the best is leg straight but slightly bend at the hip (so your feet are a bit in front of you).

You'll probably think WTF but I really struggle to sit on the pulldown seat+ and lock in now and if I do I cant get myself the pulldown bar. If I make the bar reach long enough it effects the ROM of the exercise. I can't lean back in the exercise either. The pressure on the pad is too painful. I guess its all part of adapting to the hip issues. Not mastered it for pulldowns yet.
Are you able to stand, hold the par then sit down and hook yourself in? Or does your hip issue prevent you doing that?

Based on your comment I'm feeling the need to get a set of those Mag Grip style pull down bars. I always found they hit the right spots.

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I love these grips. I find they really take the forearms and bi's out of the pulldown.
 
Are you saying that without knee bend you would hit the ground? I find for balance (to help stop swinging) the best is leg straight but slightly bend at the hip (so your feet are a bit in front of you).


Are you able to stand, hold the par then sit down and hook yourself in? Or does your hip issue prevent you doing that?


I love these grips. I find they really take the forearms and bi's out of the pulldown.

Yes knees bent and feet behind, looking up at the bar, back not too curved. Yes I would definitely hit the ground. The way I am doing it they are about 10cm from the ground as it is.

Seated pull down: Can't do it now. I get stuck like a jackknifed caravan. Similar for seated calf raises. I fucked myself up trying to wiggle my way in. I have no adduction on the left and limited on the right and trying to hip hinge to give myself just an inch to grab the bar shoots pain right up the VMO.

Re: grips: definitely! Amazing how they isolate so well. I ordered. 😅
 
@Dreamer I'm not very good at them but boy do they feel good. Especially when everything else in life conspires to crush us into a ball. A bit of traction on the lower back too. Delicious. Out of interest, you're bent at the knees 90degrees for pull ups? Rarely is my reach not longer than the height of most pull up bars!

You'll probably think WTF but I really struggle to sit on the pulldown seat+ and lock in now and if I do I cant get myself the pulldown bar. If I make the bar reach long enough it effects the ROM of the exercise. I can't lean back in the exercise either. The pressure on the pad is too painful. I guess its all part of adapting to the hip issues. Not mastered it for pulldowns yet.

Based on your comment I'm feeling the need to get a set of those Mag Grip style pull down bars. I always found they hit the right spots.

View attachment 161350

@BeMe The bands definitely got me to a point but had to dump them recently. I was always too upright meaning I didn't really fit and was always tipping or start swinging with no control and no real sense of the right recruitment. I had the brainwave to start standing on the edge of the bench, wide overhand grip and sort of falling forward and into position. And now I feel it where I should and the form is where I have been hoping to get too. Previously it was recruit whatever muscle would get me up there. The numbers are unimpressive but I am pleased for now. 😅
Yea I was the same way before the band lol. Just get the chin over the bar by any means necessary!!! Lol

I got a similar mag grip like set for my home gym. Mine are blue slm. Love them for pull downs but they're also great for all kinds of row variations.
 
@Dreamer I'm not very good at them but boy do they feel good. Especially when everything else in life conspires to crush us into a ball. A bit of traction on the lower back too. Delicious. Out of interest, you're bent at the knees 90degrees for pull ups? Rarely is my reach not longer than the height of most pull up bars!

You'll probably think WTF but I really struggle to sit on the pulldown seat+ and lock in now and if I do I cant get myself the pulldown bar. If I make the bar reach long enough it effects the ROM of the exercise. I can't lean back in the exercise either. The pressure on the pad is too painful. I guess its all part of adapting to the hip issues. Not mastered it for pulldowns yet.

Based on your comment I'm feeling the need to get a set of those Mag Grip style pull down bars. I always found they hit the right spots.

View attachment 161350

@BeMe The bands definitely got me to a point but had to dump them recently. I was always too upright meaning I didn't really fit and was always tipping or start swinging with no control and no real sense of the right recruitment. I had the brainwave to start standing on the edge of the bench, wide overhand grip and sort of falling forward and into position. And now I feel it where I should and the form is where I have been hoping to get too. Previously it was recruit whatever muscle would get me up there. The numbers are unimpressive but I am pleased for now. 😅
Whatever works for you man, thats the key, whatever your feeling the connection with, I really like that last attachment the narrow grip one, I find I can really load the weight up and drive some tension.

The good thing is if your progressing with your pull ups, your pulldown is only going to get stronger too
 
@LevButlerov Protein: up to 300 and keep everything else the same?

Re: pull ups: the 4 is to technical failure, then 2 to technical failure etc. in groups of 8.
The limiter is my left shoulder stops stabilizing and it becomes right side dominant and everything else starts getting recruited.

I previously did as many sets as I could until I was only able to do singles to technical failure in the clustered set for something like shoulders (which was recently four sets) and then for everything else it was failure to complete the concentric. Some of the secondary or accessory lifts I would not always get this far depending on how the body felt.

Currently its 3 flat sets on the main lift and 2 for everything else, having dropped some exercises to meet the -30%.

Based on your comment: I am thinking clustered for compound and dropsets for isolation. What would you like to see? Always listening and learning.

Thank you as always!
yes protein up and keep everything the same for now :D @WillyT

It would be nice to get actual reps and weights if you can, and drop sets I mean dropping to 25-30 reps
 
3/1/2025

08:00 — Breakfast
Overnight oats + sugar-free syrup
≈ 600 kcal | Protein ~35 g | Carbs ~80–85 g | Fat ~12 g
Fish oil ×5 capsules
≈ 45 kcal | Fat ~5 g

10:30 — VPA Shake
VPA whey 2 scoops (water)
≈ 240 kcal | Protein ~48 g | Carbs ~4 g | Fat ~2 g
GlicoGel jellybeans ×6
≈ 70 kcal | Carbs ~18 g

13:30 — Post-training Lunch
Chicken breast 264 g
Broccoli 146 g
Spudlite potato 200 g
Olive oil ~10 g
Aldi shredded cheese 60 g
Parmesan & garlic dressing ~20 g
Spices (paprika, onion powder, garlic powder, cumin)
≈ 800–850 kcal | Protein ~80–85 g | Carbs ~38–42 g | Fat ~45–50 g
VPA whey 2 scoops (water)
≈ 240 kcal | Protein ~48 g | Carbs ~4 g | Fat ~2 g

19:30 — Evening VPA
VPA whey 3 scoops (water)
≈ 360 kcal | Protein ~72 g | Carbs ~6 g | Fat ~3 g


Totals
Metric Target Actual Status
Calories 2,200–2,400 2,360–2,425
Protein 300 g 295–300 g
Carbs 150 g 151–159 g
Fat ~70 g 70–74 g


Carbs
Time Source Carbs (g) % of Day Cumulative %
08:00 Overnight oats ≈ 82 g 53% 53%
Pre-training GlicoGel ×6 ≈ 18 g 12% 65%
13:30 Lunch (Spudlite + veg) ≈ 40 g 26% 91%
10:30 VPA (2 scoops) ≈ 4 g 3% 94%
With lunch VPA (2 scoops) ≈ 4 g 3% 97%
19:30 VPA (3 scoops) ≈ 6 g 4% 101%*
 
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DayDay TitleSetsReps
Day 1Upper (Push Emphasis)14168
Day 2Quads + Calves24278
Day 3Push (Chest / Delts / Triceps)14189
Day 4Pull (Back / Biceps)16199
Day 5Hamstrings + Glutes26360
Total941,194
imo too much volume you can do 9-10 sets and be fine with it especially legs quads over training @WillyT
3/1/2025

08:00 — Breakfast
Overnight oats + sugar-free syrup
≈ 600 kcal | Protein ~35 g | Carbs ~80–85 g | Fat ~12 g
Fish oil ×5 capsules
≈ 45 kcal | Fat ~5 g

10:30 — VPA Shake
VPA whey 2 scoops (water)
≈ 240 kcal | Protein ~48 g | Carbs ~4 g | Fat ~2 g
GlicoGel jellybeans ×6
≈ 70 kcal | Carbs ~18 g

13:30 — Post-training Lunch
Chicken breast 264 g
Broccoli 146 g
Spudlite potato 200 g
Olive oil ~10 g
Aldi shredded cheese 60 g
Parmesan & garlic dressing ~20 g
Spices (paprika, onion powder, garlic powder, cumin)
≈ 800–850 kcal | Protein ~80–85 g | Carbs ~38–42 g | Fat ~45–50 g
VPA whey 2 scoops (water)
≈ 240 kcal | Protein ~48 g | Carbs ~4 g | Fat ~2 g

19:30 — Evening VPA
VPA whey 3 scoops (water)
≈ 360 kcal | Protein ~72 g | Carbs ~6 g | Fat ~3 g


Totals
Metric Target Actual Status
Calories 2,200–2,400 2,360–2,425
Protein 300 g 295–300 g
Carbs 150 g 151–159 g
Fat ~70 g 70–74 g


Carbs
Time Source Carbs (g) % of Day Cumulative %
08:00 Overnight oats ≈ 82 g 53% 53%
Pre-training GlicoGel ×6 ≈ 18 g 12% 65%
13:30 Lunch (Spudlite + veg) ≈ 40 g 26% 91%
10:30 VPA (2 scoops) ≈ 4 g 3% 94%
With lunch VPA (2 scoops) ≈ 4 g 3% 97%
19:30 VPA (3 scoops) ≈ 6 g 4% 101%*
protein is good! nice level carbs start going up a bit fats on point
 
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