Approved Log 3rd Cycle Log - Primobolan, Test cyp, NPP, and Anavar

[Hungry_Mexican]

Hello yall you already know what time it is. Time for the fun to begin . my cycle starts on 06/29/2026.(read the RED prompt on bottom important)
Hungry Mexican weighs 151 pounds height is 5 foot 6 inches and is brown.

for the week before my cycle starts which is the 22nd
-ill start taking N2guard to have it ready in my system
-fish oil
-creatine
-Magnesium
-Berberine & Ceylon cinnamon
-Lipoic Acid (NA R-Alpha)

Doing 3 pins a week rotating thighs, shoulders, and butt injection sites
Week 1-12
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week

Week 3-12 (proviron added)
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg (a day)

week 4-11 (NPP ends week11)
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg(a day)
-NPP 250mg a week

week 5-11 (anavar added end 11th week)
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg(a day)
-NPP 250mg a week
-Anavar 25mg (4 days out the week)

week 11-12
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg a day

*the reason I dont start everything on week 4 is so that i can see if any negative affects happens and I can identify the culprit for example week 3 start proviron when everything checks out with primo and test, than week 4 starts npp which will see if anything happens, than week 5 start of anavar. just gives my body a week apart to see if anything happens than adjust accordingly and give my body time to introduce something new to it. Nothing wrong with being safe.

For food
Calories 3,300
protein 300g
carbs 300g
fats 100g and under

-milk fairlife 2% ultra filtered 50%less sugar 50% more protein or costco milk(same thing as fairlife)
-meat i eat ground beef or turkey 93% protein 7% fat
-oat meal (purely elizabeth) used yuka app to see a good rating
-yogurt chobani 20g protein
-protein bar 21g of protein
-oikos shake 30g protein
-whey protein by Ascent
-collagen with probiotics
-Eggs costco
-Rice jasmine
- daves killer white bread
-PB fit peanut butter
-Organic flour tortillas made with avocado oil and no seed oils
-egg whites costco

For Workouts
I do push/pull/ legs and i will be going to the gym 5 days out the week

for push
-i used bench press will be doing flat and incline along with cables push downs
-for shoulders machine shoulder press or i do military press, than cable sides pulls, than pec fly rears for rear delts
-tricep push downs on cable, dips, or skull crushers

pull
-pull ups
-machine rows
-dumbell hammer curl
-dumbell curls
-curl bar lift
-cable pull downs for back

legs
-smith machine squats (back is fucked wont do deadlifts or regular free weight squats)
-leg extensions
-leg curls machine
-leg press
-calf raises
-standing calf raises
-maybe machine squats for light weight high reps to kill me

will be running every other day

*for emergency i have tamoxifen and arimidex*

*have a half gallon jug that Ill be using to measure water intake*

*ill post my current blood test when I get ALL my test back which shoud be 06/19/2026 or maybe monday-tuesday. my current results shows my FSH and my LH are still low so @ROIDDERS recommends me to wait until I recover I will wait and see what my other results will say and post it here if need be Ill wait until i recovered*

*will post body picture soon maybe sometime this upcoming week*
*i do have acne on my chest trying to kill it off using Panoxyl Acne foaming wash 10%Benzoyl Peroxide and using dove acne wash 1%sylicic acid*

*for past couple months been eating what I mentioned earlier along with 3300 cals, 300g of protein, 300 carb, and under 100g of fat*

*yes will go deeper into my workouts when the cycle starts. I will type them down and send yall what I typically do for the most part from my last cycle yall liked it. So i will keep it pushing*

@LevButlerov @Kopite67 @ROIDDERS
@2Thick @BeMe @toddthelineman @Pigsy @HarleyGuy

 

[toddthelineman]

I agree with @ROIDDERS. He would know better than I would, but it makes sense. Your recovery is taking a bit longer but you want to give it a chance to kick in because if you don’t it may never again

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

I agree with @ROIDDERS. He would know better than I would, but it makes sense. Your recovery is taking a bit longer but you want to give it a chance to kick in because if you don’t it may never again

true its just that its been a couple months now and my body besides what i told you in my PCT log about how i currently feel my body is also feeling kinda antsy i guess like its been a while now of just waiting for my body to recover that its just been dieting and doing workouts that arent really progressing just staying the same and feels like my body wants to push forward but cant and cant wait till it gets the sauce back . But otherwise ill keep being patient if need be im cool with it

 

[LevButlerov]

Hello yall you already know what time it is. Time for the fun to begin . my cycle starts on 06/29/2026.(read the RED prompt on bottom important)
Hungry Mexican weighs 151 pounds height is 5 foot 6 inches and is brown.

for the week before my cycle starts which is the 22nd
-ill start taking N2guard to have it ready in my system
-fish oil
-creatine
-Magnesium
-Berberine & Ceylon cinnamon
-Lipoic Acid (NA R-Alpha)

Doing 3 pins a week rotating thighs, shoulders, and butt injection sites
Week 1-12
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week

Week 3-12 (proviron added)
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg (a day)

week 4-11 (NPP ends week11)
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg(a day)
-NPP 250mg a week

week 5-11 (anavar added end 11th week)
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg(a day)
-NPP 250mg a week
-Anavar 25mg (4 days out the week)

week 11-12
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg a day

*the reason I dont start everything on week 4 is so that i can see if any negative affects happens and I can identify the culprit for example week 3 start proviron when everything checks out with primo and test, than week 4 starts npp which will see if anything happens, than week 5 start of anavar. just gives my body a week apart to see if anything happens than adjust accordingly and give my body time to introduce something new to it. Nothing wrong with being safe.

For food
Calories 3,300
protein 300g
carbs 300g
fats 100g and under

-milk fairlife 2% ultra filtered 50%less sugar 50% more protein or costco milk(same thing as fairlife)
-meat i eat ground beef or turkey 93% protein 7% fat
-oat meal (purely elizabeth) used yuka app to see a good rating
-yogurt chobani 20g protein
-protein bar 21g of protein
-oikos shake 30g protein
-whey protein by Ascent
-collagen with probiotics
-Eggs costco
-Rice jasmine
- daves killer white bread
-PB fit peanut butter
-Organic flour tortillas made with avocado oil and no seed oils
-egg whites costco

For Workouts
I do push/pull/ legs and i will be going to the gym 5 days out the week

for push
-i used bench press will be doing flat and incline along with cables push downs
-for shoulders machine shoulder press or i do military press, than cable sides pulls, than pec fly rears for rear delts
-tricep push downs on cable, dips, or skull crushers

pull
-pull ups
-machine rows
-dumbell hammer curl
-dumbell curls
-curl bar lift
-cable pull downs for back

legs
-smith machine squats (back is fucked wont do deadlifts or regular free weight squats)
-leg extensions
-leg curls machine
-leg press
-calf raises
-standing calf raises
-maybe machine squats for light weight high reps to kill me

will be running every other day

*for emergency i have tamoxifen and arimidex*

*have a half gallon jug that Ill be using to measure water intake*

*ill post my current blood test when I get ALL my test back which shoud be 06/19/2026 or maybe monday-tuesday. my current results shows my FSH and my LH are still low so @ROIDDERS recommends me to wait until I recover I will wait and see what my other results will say and post it here if need be Ill wait until i recovered*

*will post body picture soon maybe sometime this upcoming week*
*i do have acne on my chest trying to kill it off using Panoxyl Acne foaming wash 10%Benzoyl Peroxide and using dove acne wash 1%sylicic acid*

*for past couple months been eating what I mentioned earlier along with 3300 cals, 300g of protein, 300 carb, and under 100g of fat*

*yes will go deeper into my workouts when the cycle starts. I will type them down and send yall what I typically do for the most part from my last cycle yall liked it. So i will keep it pushing*

@LevButlerov @Kopite67 @ROIDDERS
@2Thick @BeMe @toddthelineman @Pigsy @HarleyGuy

good log start love the new push @Hungry_Mexican first thing is lets see the bloods, want to see how they look

Cycle
I like test primo mix here
but i would kick start with the anavar tbh

Bloods
waiting

Training Food Supps
please start sharing these in detail and do you have digestive aids?

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

good log start love the new push @Hungry_Mexican first thing is lets see the bloods, want to see how they look

Cycle
I like test primo mix here
but i would kick start with the anavar tbh

Bloods
waiting

Training Food Supps
please start sharing these in detail and do you have digestive aids?

Legs



Smith machine squat

Warm up

25lbs- 20 reps

35lbs- 16



Set 1

45lbs- 12 reps

Set 2

45 45lbs- 10 reps

Set3

45 45 25lbs- 9 reps

Set4

45 45 45lbs- 2 reps

Dropset

45 45lbs- 8 reps

45lbs- 12 reps



Sit down calf machine

1set

140lbs- 21 reps

2set

180lbs- 16 reps

3 set

220lbs- 13 reps

4 set

280lbs- 8 reps

Dropser

140lbs-18 reps

Dropset

70lbs- 27repa



Leg extension

1set

100lbs- 16 reps

2 set

130lbs- 16 reps

3 set

160lbs- 15 reps

4 set

200lbs- 8 reps

Dropper

100lbs- 12 reps



Seated leg curl

1set

70lbs- 12 reps

2 set

80lbs-10 reps

3 set

100lbs-7 reps

4 set

110lbs- 4 1/2 rep

Dropset

60lbs- 13 reps



Back/arms



Hammer dumbbell curl

Warmups

15lbs- 25 reps



1 set

30lbs- 12 reps

2 set

40lbs- 8 reps

3set

45lbs- 4 reps

Dropser

30lbs- 9 reps

4set

35lbs-8 reps

Dropset

20lbs- 10 reps

Dropset

10lbs- 14 reps



Chin up machine



Warm up

90lbs off- 26 reps

60lbs off- 11 reps



1set

30lbs off-11 reps

2 set

15lbs off- 8 reps

3 set

Free weight- 7 reps

Drop set

35lbs off- 6 reps

4 set

20lbs off- 8 reps

Dropser

50lbs off - 12 reps

Dropset

90lbs off- 20 reps



Cable machine curls



1 set

30lbs- 23 reps

2 set

40lbs- 15 reps

3 set

50lbs- 10 reps

4 set

60lbs- 4 reps

Dropser

30lbs- 10 reps



Seated machine row

1set

100lbs-18 reps

2 set

120lbs-16 reps

3 set

140lbs-12 reps

4 set

140lbs- 9 reps

Dropset

70lbs- 20 reps


Chest/shoulder/tricep



Smith machine flat bench

Warmups

75lbs- 25reps

95lbs- 25 reps



1set

115lbs-20 reps

2 set

165lbs- 14 reps

3set

205lbs- 8 reps

4 set

255lbs- 0 (failed elbow joint started stressing and felt uncomfortable )

225lbs- 0 (elbows started stressing more)

Dropset

115lbs- 32 reps



Shoulder press

Warm up

40lbs- 30 reps



1set

80lbs-21 reps

2 set

100lbs- 13 reps

3 set

120lbs-10 reps

4 set

160lbs- 2 reps

Dropset

90lbs- 12 reps

Dropset

50lbs- 28 reps



Cable machine push downs



1set

50lbs- 20reps

2 set

60lbs- 16 reps

3set

75lbs- 12 reps

4 set

95lbs- 5 reps

Dropset

40lbs- 14 reps

Dropset

25lbs- 25 reps



Cable chest push downs (lower chest)



1set

25lbs- 17 reps

2 set

30lbs- 14 reps

3 set

35lbs- 12 reps

4 set

45lbs- 6 reps

Dropset

25lbs- 13 reps

Dropset

20lbs- 12 reps



Cable side shoulder pulls



1set

10lbs- 15 reps



2 set

15lbs- 15 reps



3 set

20lbs- 8 reps



4set

25lbs- 5 reps

Took 2 min break

Dropset

10lbs - 25 reps





Dips

1 set

20 reps

2 set

27 reps

3 set

18 reps

4set

19 reps



Pec fly machine



1set

100lbs- 13 reps

2 set

120lbs- 9 reps

3 set

140lbs- 8 reps

4 set

160lbs- 4 rep

Dropset

90lbs- 9 reps



Punishment for no doing set 4 for flat bench



Chest press

1set

100lbs- 22 reps

2set

100lbs- 15 reps

3 set

100lbs- 15 reps

Dropser

50lbs-50 reps

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

good log start love the new push @Hungry_Mexican first thing is lets see the bloods, want to see how they look

Cycle
I like test primo mix here
but i would kick start with the anavar tbh

Bloods
waiting

Training Food Supps
please start sharing these in detail and do you have digestive aids?

for the cycle you want me to kick start with anavar so from week 1-6 ok seems good

bloods hasnt came in yet been checking so im guessing monday or tuesday

dont really gave digestive aids the only thing i do eat is the probiotics in my collagen i take and i do eat fruit like mangos, strawberries, and pineapple, also banana too. I know banana and pineapple are good for certain things i forgot.

 

[Mobster]

for the cycle you want me to kick start with anavar so from week 1-6 ok seems good

bloods hasnt came in yet been checking so im guessing monday or tuesday

dont really gave digestive aids the only thing i do eat is the probiotics in my collagen i take and i do eat fruit like mangos, strawberries, and pineapple, also banana too. I know banana and pineapple are good for certain things i forgot.

Pineapple and probiotics both help

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

Pineapple and probiotics both help

Sounds good would I need to take any other digestive aid?

 

[LevButlerov]

for the cycle you want me to kick start with anavar so from week 1-6 ok seems good

bloods hasnt came in yet been checking so im guessing monday or tuesday

dont really gave digestive aids the only thing i do eat is the probiotics in my collagen i take and i do eat fruit like mangos, strawberries, and pineapple, also banana too. I know banana and pineapple are good for certain things i forgot.

for the cycle you want me to kick start with anavar so from week 1-6 ok seems good

i would go 1-6 week anavar @Hungry_Mexican

bloods hasnt came in yet been checking so im guessing monday or tuesday

lets wait

dont really gave digestive aids the only thing i do eat is the probiotics in my collagen i take and i do eat fruit like mangos, strawberries, and pineapple, also banana too. I know banana and pineapple are good for certain things i forgot.

try to get 30 billion CFU probiotics and take 10grams psyllium ed

 

[LevButlerov]

Legs



Smith machine squat

Warm up

25lbs- 20 reps

35lbs- 16



Set 1

45lbs- 12 reps

Set 2

45 45lbs- 10 reps

Set3

45 45 25lbs- 9 reps

Set4

45 45 45lbs- 2 reps

Dropset

45 45lbs- 8 reps

45lbs- 12 reps



Sit down calf machine

1set

140lbs- 21 reps

2set

180lbs- 16 reps

3 set

220lbs- 13 reps

4 set

280lbs- 8 reps

Dropser

140lbs-18 reps

Dropset

70lbs- 27repa



Leg extension

1set

100lbs- 16 reps

2 set

130lbs- 16 reps

3 set

160lbs- 15 reps

4 set

200lbs- 8 reps

Dropper

100lbs- 12 reps



Seated leg curl

1set

70lbs- 12 reps

2 set

80lbs-10 reps

3 set

100lbs-7 reps

4 set

110lbs- 4 1/2 rep

Dropset

60lbs- 13 reps



Back/arms



Hammer dumbbell curl

Warmups

15lbs- 25 reps



1 set

30lbs- 12 reps

2 set

40lbs- 8 reps

3set

45lbs- 4 reps

Dropser

30lbs- 9 reps

4set

35lbs-8 reps

Dropset

20lbs- 10 reps

Dropset

10lbs- 14 reps



Chin up machine



Warm up

90lbs off- 26 reps

60lbs off- 11 reps



1set

30lbs off-11 reps

2 set

15lbs off- 8 reps

3 set

Free weight- 7 reps

Drop set

35lbs off- 6 reps

4 set

20lbs off- 8 reps

Dropser

50lbs off - 12 reps

Dropset

90lbs off- 20 reps



Cable machine curls



1 set

30lbs- 23 reps

2 set

40lbs- 15 reps

3 set

50lbs- 10 reps

4 set

60lbs- 4 reps

Dropser

30lbs- 10 reps



Seated machine row

1set

100lbs-18 reps

2 set

120lbs-16 reps

3 set

140lbs-12 reps

4 set

140lbs- 9 reps

Dropset

70lbs- 20 reps


Chest/shoulder/tricep



Smith machine flat bench

Warmups

75lbs- 25reps

95lbs- 25 reps



1set

115lbs-20 reps

2 set

165lbs- 14 reps

3set

205lbs- 8 reps

4 set

255lbs- 0 (failed elbow joint started stressing and felt uncomfortable )

225lbs- 0 (elbows started stressing more)

Dropset

115lbs- 32 reps



Shoulder press

Warm up

40lbs- 30 reps



1set

80lbs-21 reps

2 set

100lbs- 13 reps

3 set

120lbs-10 reps

4 set

160lbs- 2 reps

Dropset

90lbs- 12 reps

Dropset

50lbs- 28 reps



Cable machine push downs



1set

50lbs- 20reps

2 set

60lbs- 16 reps

3set

75lbs- 12 reps

4 set

95lbs- 5 reps

Dropset

40lbs- 14 reps

Dropset

25lbs- 25 reps



Cable chest push downs (lower chest)



1set

25lbs- 17 reps

2 set

30lbs- 14 reps

3 set

35lbs- 12 reps

4 set

45lbs- 6 reps

Dropset

25lbs- 13 reps

Dropset

20lbs- 12 reps



Cable side shoulder pulls



1set

10lbs- 15 reps



2 set

15lbs- 15 reps



3 set

20lbs- 8 reps



4set

25lbs- 5 reps

Took 2 min break

Dropset

10lbs - 25 reps





Dips

1 set

20 reps

2 set

27 reps

3 set

18 reps

4set

19 reps



Pec fly machine



1set

100lbs- 13 reps

2 set

120lbs- 9 reps

3 set

140lbs- 8 reps

4 set

160lbs- 4 rep

Dropset

90lbs- 9 reps



Punishment for no doing set 4 for flat bench



Chest press

1set

100lbs- 22 reps

2set

100lbs- 15 reps

3 set

100lbs- 15 reps

Dropser

50lbs-50 reps

a lot of dropsets I love that are you using an app to track? @Hungry_Mexican would be easier to read

 

[stevesmi]

Hello yall you already know what time it is. Time for the fun to begin . my cycle starts on 06/29/2026.(read the RED prompt on bottom important)
Hungry Mexican weighs 151 pounds height is 5 foot 6 inches and is brown.

for the week before my cycle starts which is the 22nd
-ill start taking N2guard to have it ready in my system
-fish oil
-creatine
-Magnesium
-Berberine & Ceylon cinnamon
-Lipoic Acid (NA R-Alpha)

Doing 3 pins a week rotating thighs, shoulders, and butt injection sites
Week 1-12
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week

Week 3-12 (proviron added)
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg (a day)

week 4-11 (NPP ends week11)
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg(a day)
-NPP 250mg a week

week 5-11 (anavar added end 11th week)
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg(a day)
-NPP 250mg a week
-Anavar 25mg (4 days out the week)

week 11-12
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg a day

*the reason I dont start everything on week 4 is so that i can see if any negative affects happens and I can identify the culprit for example week 3 start proviron when everything checks out with primo and test, than week 4 starts npp which will see if anything happens, than week 5 start of anavar. just gives my body a week apart to see if anything happens than adjust accordingly and give my body time to introduce something new to it. Nothing wrong with being safe.

For food
Calories 3,300
protein 300g
carbs 300g
fats 100g and under

-milk fairlife 2% ultra filtered 50%less sugar 50% more protein or costco milk(same thing as fairlife)
-meat i eat ground beef or turkey 93% protein 7% fat
-oat meal (purely elizabeth) used yuka app to see a good rating
-yogurt chobani 20g protein
-protein bar 21g of protein
-oikos shake 30g protein
-whey protein by Ascent
-collagen with probiotics
-Eggs costco
-Rice jasmine
- daves killer white bread
-PB fit peanut butter
-Organic flour tortillas made with avocado oil and no seed oils
-egg whites costco

For Workouts
I do push/pull/ legs and i will be going to the gym 5 days out the week

for push
-i used bench press will be doing flat and incline along with cables push downs
-for shoulders machine shoulder press or i do military press, than cable sides pulls, than pec fly rears for rear delts
-tricep push downs on cable, dips, or skull crushers

pull
-pull ups
-machine rows
-dumbell hammer curl
-dumbell curls
-curl bar lift
-cable pull downs for back

legs
-smith machine squats (back is fucked wont do deadlifts or regular free weight squats)
-leg extensions
-leg curls machine
-leg press
-calf raises
-standing calf raises
-maybe machine squats for light weight high reps to kill me

will be running every other day

*for emergency i have tamoxifen and arimidex*

*have a half gallon jug that Ill be using to measure water intake*

*ill post my current blood test when I get ALL my test back which shoud be 06/19/2026 or maybe monday-tuesday. my current results shows my FSH and my LH are still low so @ROIDDERS recommends me to wait until I recover I will wait and see what my other results will say and post it here if need be Ill wait until i recovered*

*will post body picture soon maybe sometime this upcoming week*
*i do have acne on my chest trying to kill it off using Panoxyl Acne foaming wash 10%Benzoyl Peroxide and using dove acne wash 1%sylicic acid*

*for past couple months been eating what I mentioned earlier along with 3300 cals, 300g of protein, 300 carb, and under 100g of fat*

*yes will go deeper into my workouts when the cycle starts. I will type them down and send yall what I typically do for the most part from my last cycle yall liked it. So i will keep it pushing*

@LevButlerov @Kopite67 @ROIDDERS
@2Thick @BeMe @toddthelineman @Pigsy @HarleyGuy

@Hungry_Mexican this is a great idea man. I'm glad you came back with another log, and this one is going to be even better. You're still a young guy, so it's crucial that you do the right stuff. This will determine what happens in your 30s and 40s.

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

i would go 1-6 week anavar @Hungry_Mexican

lets wait

try to get 30 billion CFU probiotics and take 10grams psyllium ed

My face when I saw 30 billion . I’m guessing that’s the name but I’ll do my search on them and buy them. And now when the cycle starts I’ll start kick start off with anavar

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

a lot of dropsets I love that are you using an app to track? @Hungry_Mexican would be easier to read

I usually just Type on my phone notes app but you have an app that you track?

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

@Hungry_Mexican this is a great idea man. I'm glad you came back with another log, and this one is going to be even better. You're still a young guy, so it's crucial that you do the right stuff. This will determine what happens in your 30s and 40s.

He Steve even my roomates say this one would be good since I’m keeping at it with my nutrition and maintaining my weight. But will most likely have to hold off on the cycle till I get my full blood results back soon.

 

[ceo]

Hello yall you already know what time it is. Time for the fun to begin . my cycle starts on 06/29/2026.(read the RED prompt on bottom important)
Hungry Mexican weighs 151 pounds height is 5 foot 6 inches and is brown.

for the week before my cycle starts which is the 22nd
-ill start taking N2guard to have it ready in my system
-fish oil
-creatine
-Magnesium
-Berberine & Ceylon cinnamon
-Lipoic Acid (NA R-Alpha)

Doing 3 pins a week rotating thighs, shoulders, and butt injection sites
Week 1-12
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week

Week 3-12 (proviron added)
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg (a day)

week 4-11 (NPP ends week11)
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg(a day)
-NPP 250mg a week

week 5-11 (anavar added end 11th week)
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg(a day)
-NPP 250mg a week
-Anavar 25mg (4 days out the week)

week 11-12
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg a day

*the reason I dont start everything on week 4 is so that i can see if any negative affects happens and I can identify the culprit for example week 3 start proviron when everything checks out with primo and test, than week 4 starts npp which will see if anything happens, than week 5 start of anavar. just gives my body a week apart to see if anything happens than adjust accordingly and give my body time to introduce something new to it. Nothing wrong with being safe.

For food
Calories 3,300
protein 300g
carbs 300g
fats 100g and under

-milk fairlife 2% ultra filtered 50%less sugar 50% more protein or costco milk(same thing as fairlife)
-meat i eat ground beef or turkey 93% protein 7% fat
-oat meal (purely elizabeth) used yuka app to see a good rating
-yogurt chobani 20g protein
-protein bar 21g of protein
-oikos shake 30g protein
-whey protein by Ascent
-collagen with probiotics
-Eggs costco
-Rice jasmine
- daves killer white bread
-PB fit peanut butter
-Organic flour tortillas made with avocado oil and no seed oils
-egg whites costco

For Workouts
I do push/pull/ legs and i will be going to the gym 5 days out the week

for push
-i used bench press will be doing flat and incline along with cables push downs
-for shoulders machine shoulder press or i do military press, than cable sides pulls, than pec fly rears for rear delts
-tricep push downs on cable, dips, or skull crushers

pull
-pull ups
-machine rows
-dumbell hammer curl
-dumbell curls
-curl bar lift
-cable pull downs for back

legs
-smith machine squats (back is fucked wont do deadlifts or regular free weight squats)
-leg extensions
-leg curls machine
-leg press
-calf raises
-standing calf raises
-maybe machine squats for light weight high reps to kill me

will be running every other day

*for emergency i have tamoxifen and arimidex*

*have a half gallon jug that Ill be using to measure water intake*

*ill post my current blood test when I get ALL my test back which shoud be 06/19/2026 or maybe monday-tuesday. my current results shows my FSH and my LH are still low so @ROIDDERS recommends me to wait until I recover I will wait and see what my other results will say and post it here if need be Ill wait until i recovered*

*will post body picture soon maybe sometime this upcoming week*
*i do have acne on my chest trying to kill it off using Panoxyl Acne foaming wash 10%Benzoyl Peroxide and using dove acne wash 1%sylicic acid*

*for past couple months been eating what I mentioned earlier along with 3300 cals, 300g of protein, 300 carb, and under 100g of fat*

*yes will go deeper into my workouts when the cycle starts. I will type them down and send yall what I typically do for the most part from my last cycle yall liked it. So i will keep it pushing*

@LevButlerov @Kopite67 @ROIDDERS
@2Thick @BeMe @toddthelineman @Pigsy @HarleyGuy

Bros, you're getting smart for a younger dude. I think on the forum you learn a lot and it's helping you improve and get smarter. @Hungry_Mexican

 

[ROIDDERS]

true its just that its been a couple months now and my body besides what i told you in my PCT log about how i currently feel my body is also feeling kinda antsy i guess like its been a while now of just waiting for my body to recover that its just been dieting and doing workouts that arent really progressing just staying the same and feels like my body wants to push forward but cant and cant wait till it gets the sauce back . But otherwise ill keep being patient if need be im cool with it

give it longer in between cycles. the longer you do that the stronger your hpta will be

 

[ROIDDERS]

Legs



Smith machine squat

Warm up

25lbs- 20 reps

35lbs- 16



Set 1

45lbs- 12 reps

Set 2

45 45lbs- 10 reps

Set3

45 45 25lbs- 9 reps

Set4

45 45 45lbs- 2 reps

Dropset

45 45lbs- 8 reps

45lbs- 12 reps



Sit down calf machine

1set

140lbs- 21 reps

2set

180lbs- 16 reps

3 set

220lbs- 13 reps

4 set

280lbs- 8 reps

Dropser

140lbs-18 reps

Dropset

70lbs- 27repa



Leg extension

1set

100lbs- 16 reps

2 set

130lbs- 16 reps

3 set

160lbs- 15 reps

4 set

200lbs- 8 reps

Dropper

100lbs- 12 reps



Seated leg curl

1set

70lbs- 12 reps

2 set

80lbs-10 reps

3 set

100lbs-7 reps

4 set

110lbs- 4 1/2 rep

Dropset

60lbs- 13 reps



Back/arms



Hammer dumbbell curl

Warmups

15lbs- 25 reps



1 set

30lbs- 12 reps

2 set

40lbs- 8 reps

3set

45lbs- 4 reps

Dropser

30lbs- 9 reps

4set

35lbs-8 reps

Dropset

20lbs- 10 reps

Dropset

10lbs- 14 reps



Chin up machine



Warm up

90lbs off- 26 reps

60lbs off- 11 reps



1set

30lbs off-11 reps

2 set

15lbs off- 8 reps

3 set

Free weight- 7 reps

Drop set

35lbs off- 6 reps

4 set

20lbs off- 8 reps

Dropser

50lbs off - 12 reps

Dropset

90lbs off- 20 reps



Cable machine curls



1 set

30lbs- 23 reps

2 set

40lbs- 15 reps

3 set

50lbs- 10 reps

4 set

60lbs- 4 reps

Dropser

30lbs- 10 reps



Seated machine row

1set

100lbs-18 reps

2 set

120lbs-16 reps

3 set

140lbs-12 reps

4 set

140lbs- 9 reps

Dropset

70lbs- 20 reps


Chest/shoulder/tricep



Smith machine flat bench

Warmups

75lbs- 25reps

95lbs- 25 reps



1set

115lbs-20 reps

2 set

165lbs- 14 reps

3set

205lbs- 8 reps

4 set

255lbs- 0 (failed elbow joint started stressing and felt uncomfortable )

225lbs- 0 (elbows started stressing more)

Dropset

115lbs- 32 reps



Shoulder press

Warm up

40lbs- 30 reps



1set

80lbs-21 reps

2 set

100lbs- 13 reps

3 set

120lbs-10 reps

4 set

160lbs- 2 reps

Dropset

90lbs- 12 reps

Dropset

50lbs- 28 reps



Cable machine push downs



1set

50lbs- 20reps

2 set

60lbs- 16 reps

3set

75lbs- 12 reps

4 set

95lbs- 5 reps

Dropset

40lbs- 14 reps

Dropset

25lbs- 25 reps



Cable chest push downs (lower chest)



1set

25lbs- 17 reps

2 set

30lbs- 14 reps

3 set

35lbs- 12 reps

4 set

45lbs- 6 reps

Dropset

25lbs- 13 reps

Dropset

20lbs- 12 reps



Cable side shoulder pulls



1set

10lbs- 15 reps



2 set

15lbs- 15 reps



3 set

20lbs- 8 reps



4set

25lbs- 5 reps

Took 2 min break

Dropset

10lbs - 25 reps





Dips

1 set

20 reps

2 set

27 reps

3 set

18 reps

4set

19 reps



Pec fly machine



1set

100lbs- 13 reps

2 set

120lbs- 9 reps

3 set

140lbs- 8 reps

4 set

160lbs- 4 rep

Dropset

90lbs- 9 reps



Punishment for no doing set 4 for flat bench



Chest press

1set

100lbs- 22 reps

2set

100lbs- 15 reps

3 set

100lbs- 15 reps

Dropser

50lbs-50 reps

Excellent work on the chest training exercises. @Hungry_Mexican repetitions look terrific as well. You're not overdoing it on the weights.

 

[Ulter]

I usually just Type on my phone notes app but you have an app that you track?

@Hungry_Mexican I'm too old for this app crap. But a lot of the younger dudes definitely use them. You can check with a guy like @BeMe. I know he uses a really good app.

 

[2Thick]

My face when I saw 30 billion . I’m guessing that’s the name but I’ll do my search on them and buy them. And now when the cycle starts I’ll start kick start off with anavar

It's something different to try. A lot of people will get tremendous results and feel a lot better with their digestion. @Hungry_Mexican

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

Bros, you're getting smart for a younger dude. I think on the forum you learn a lot and it's helping you improve and get smarter. @Hungry_Mexican

Always trying to improve

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

give it longer in between cycles. the longer you do that the stronger your hpta will be

Got it also I was wondering now that my cycle has to be pushed back when do I should I go get my bloods done again?

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

@Hungry_Mexican I'm too old for this app crap. But a lot of the younger dudes definitely use them. You can check with a guy like @BeMe. I know he uses a really good app.

Got it I’ll wait to see what beme says when he decides to bless me with his presence.
But usually I do see people writing their progress on a notepad.

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

It's something different to try. A lot of people will get tremendous results and feel a lot better with their digestion. @Hungry_Mexican

I’m sure it will help out a lot with the way I’m currently eating

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

There are still 3 more pending test but will give yall what is going on right now. The pending test are testosterone FREE, Estradiol, and IGF 1
@LevButlerov @Kopite67 @ROIDDERS
@2Thick @BeMe @toddthelineman @Pigsy @HarleyGuy @Ulter @ceo

 

[toddthelineman]

There are still 3 more pending test but will give yall what is going on right now. The pending test are testosterone FREE, Estradiol, and IGF 1
@LevButlerov @Kopite67 @ROIDDERS
@2Thick @BeMe @toddthelineman @Pigsy @HarleyGuy @Ulter @ceo

Wow. Total t 68 and you’re pretty chill. I’m envious of your levelheadedness. Very curious the rest of the bloodwork but I have nothing informative to contribute.

 

[stevesmi]

He Steve even my roomates say this one would be good since I’m keeping at it with my nutrition and maintaining my weight. But will most likely have to hold off on the cycle till I get my full blood results back soon.

good to hear !

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

Wow. Total t 68 and you’re pretty chill. I’m envious of your levelheadedness. Very curious the rest of the bloodwork but I have nothing informative to contribute.

Well something is something I already knew what could happen when I jump on gear so I’m already prepared. Also my natural T was 400 which ain’t much so im not really gonna cry about that . Also still got time for my body to jump back. Im all about peace and love with a little war inside me.

 

[LevButlerov]

There are still 3 more pending test but will give yall what is going on right now. The pending test are testosterone FREE, Estradiol, and IGF 1
@LevButlerov @Kopite67 @ROIDDERS
@2Thick @BeMe @toddthelineman @Pigsy @HarleyGuy @Ulter @ceo

68 test level? your PCT wasnt correct good you back on cycle @Hungry_Mexican

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

68 test level? your PCT wasnt correct good you back on cycle @Hungry_Mexican

i can hop back onto my PCT cycle I still have enough clomid and have some tamo left

 

[LevButlerov]

i can hop back onto my PCT cycle I still have enough clomid and have some tamo left

waste of time get on your cycle as planned @Hungry_Mexican

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

waste of time get on your cycle as planned @Hungry_Mexican

Oh Snapples I thought we were going to do the let the body readjust naturally. Sounds good to me personally to get on cycle as planned but want to know what you know why it’s good to just continue.

 

[LevButlerov]

Oh Snapples I thought we were going to do the let the body readjust naturally. Sounds good to me personally to get on cycle as planned but want to know what you know why it’s good to just continue.

lets go as planned and cycle
and why not continue pct? its not going to do anything as you're going back on cycle either way, you'll just crash hormones and feel terrible for no reason @Hungry_Mexican

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

lets go as planned and cycle
and why not continue pct? its not going to do anything as you're going back on cycle either way, you'll just crash hormones and feel terrible for no reason @Hungry_Mexican

Sounds good will continue as planned and start buying the necessary supplements

 

[BeMe]

Hello yall you already know what time it is. Time for the fun to begin . my cycle starts on 06/29/2026.(read the RED prompt on bottom important)
Hungry Mexican weighs 151 pounds height is 5 foot 6 inches and is brown.

for the week before my cycle starts which is the 22nd
-ill start taking N2guard to have it ready in my system
-fish oil
-creatine
-Magnesium
-Berberine & Ceylon cinnamon
-Lipoic Acid (NA R-Alpha)

Doing 3 pins a week rotating thighs, shoulders, and butt injection sites
Week 1-12
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week

Week 3-12 (proviron added)
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg (a day)

week 4-11 (NPP ends week11)
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg(a day)
-NPP 250mg a week

week 5-11 (anavar added end 11th week)
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg(a day)
-NPP 250mg a week
-Anavar 25mg (4 days out the week)

week 11-12
-300mg of test CYP a week
-300mg of Primo a week
-proviron 25mg a day

*the reason I dont start everything on week 4 is so that i can see if any negative affects happens and I can identify the culprit for example week 3 start proviron when everything checks out with primo and test, than week 4 starts npp which will see if anything happens, than week 5 start of anavar. just gives my body a week apart to see if anything happens than adjust accordingly and give my body time to introduce something new to it. Nothing wrong with being safe.

For food
Calories 3,300
protein 300g
carbs 300g
fats 100g and under

-milk fairlife 2% ultra filtered 50%less sugar 50% more protein or costco milk(same thing as fairlife)
-meat i eat ground beef or turkey 93% protein 7% fat
-oat meal (purely elizabeth) used yuka app to see a good rating
-yogurt chobani 20g protein
-protein bar 21g of protein
-oikos shake 30g protein
-whey protein by Ascent
-collagen with probiotics
-Eggs costco
-Rice jasmine
- daves killer white bread
-PB fit peanut butter
-Organic flour tortillas made with avocado oil and no seed oils
-egg whites costco

For Workouts
I do push/pull/ legs and i will be going to the gym 5 days out the week

for push
-i used bench press will be doing flat and incline along with cables push downs
-for shoulders machine shoulder press or i do military press, than cable sides pulls, than pec fly rears for rear delts
-tricep push downs on cable, dips, or skull crushers

pull
-pull ups
-machine rows
-dumbell hammer curl
-dumbell curls
-curl bar lift
-cable pull downs for back

legs
-smith machine squats (back is fucked wont do deadlifts or regular free weight squats)
-leg extensions
-leg curls machine
-leg press
-calf raises
-standing calf raises
-maybe machine squats for light weight high reps to kill me

will be running every other day

*for emergency i have tamoxifen and arimidex*

*have a half gallon jug that Ill be using to measure water intake*

*ill post my current blood test when I get ALL my test back which shoud be 06/19/2026 or maybe monday-tuesday. my current results shows my FSH and my LH are still low so @ROIDDERS recommends me to wait until I recover I will wait and see what my other results will say and post it here if need be Ill wait until i recovered*

*will post body picture soon maybe sometime this upcoming week*
*i do have acne on my chest trying to kill it off using Panoxyl Acne foaming wash 10%Benzoyl Peroxide and using dove acne wash 1%sylicic acid*

*for past couple months been eating what I mentioned earlier along with 3300 cals, 300g of protein, 300 carb, and under 100g of fat*

*yes will go deeper into my workouts when the cycle starts. I will type them down and send yall what I typically do for the most part from my last cycle yall liked it. So i will keep it pushing*

@LevButlerov @Kopite67 @ROIDDERS
@2Thick @BeMe @toddthelineman @Pigsy @HarleyGuy

I like the cycle design bro. I ran pretty much the same cycle and had great results from it. I'd push it out to 16 weeks though and I stayed on 25 or 37.5mg if anavar from day 1. Just ground it up and put it under my tongue to dissolve an hour pre-workout. Didn't take it on my off days. My liver was fine after 16 weeks like that and all I had for support was Tudca and I'm way older than you lol. With the n2guard you'll be extra good with your liver.

It's good to have it all mapped out like this but base your dosing jumps off your progress. If you're still making solid progress week to week I'd say there's no real need to increase the ped load.

 

[BeMe]

Got it I’ll wait to see what beme says when he decides to bless me with his presence.
But usually I do see people writing their progress on a notepad.

Sorry bro haven't been around as much lately so I'm a bit behind.

Depends what your tracking but my current setup looks like this.

RP Hypertrophy app - this is for training only, building programs and tracking progress. It will recommend new progress milestones week to week based on questions it asks you about each muscle group and the day overall.

Macro factor - This is a great macro tracking app. The AI feature is really handy if you eat out. You can just take a pic of the food and it actually calculates everything pretty accurately. It also has a barcode scanner with a huge database so it's rare you scan something and it doesn't already have it in the system.

Whoop Strap - This is for tracking ALL my health metrics. It's pretty pricey but if you're hardcore about tracking it's as detailed as they get. Lots of people gather good info from just an apple watch, or there are whoop competitors that are also good and cheaper.

Garmin Connect for Garmin Smart watch - pretty straight forward. Tracks a bunch of stuff and has a decent rep counter/set timer app built in. I mainly use it for my workouts and mountain biking.

Renpho smart scale - tracks my weight and other stuff but I don't put much faith in the other stuff. Builds some nice graphs showing actual weight vs long term trending.

A&D BP App - Connects to my BP monitor and logs everything for me.

Google Health - Works with almost all of these apps listed and correlates all the info in one place. It's great for giving all my health info to a multinational conglomerate lol

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

Sorry bro haven't been around as much lately so I'm a bit behind.

Depends what your tracking but my current setup looks like this.

RP Hypertrophy app - this is for training only, building programs and tracking progress. It will recommend new progress milestones week to week based on questions it asks you about each muscle group and the day overall.

Macro factor - This is a great macro tracking app. The AI feature is really handy if you eat out. You can just take a pic of the food and it actually calculates everything pretty accurately. It also has a barcode scanner with a huge database so it's rare you scan something and it doesn't already have it in the system.

Whoop Strap - This is for tracking ALL my health metrics. It's pretty pricey but if you're hardcore about tracking it's as detailed as they get. Lots of people gather good info from just an apple watch, or there are whoop competitors that are also good and cheaper.

Garmin Connect for Garmin Smart watch - pretty straight forward. Tracks a bunch of stuff and has a decent rep counter/set timer app built in. I mainly use it for my workouts and mountain biking.

Renpho smart scale - tracks my weight and other stuff but I don't put much faith in the other stuff. Builds some nice graphs showing actual weight vs long term trending.

A&D BP App - Connects to my BP monitor and logs everything for me.

Google Health - Works with almost all of these apps listed and correlates all the info in one place. It's great for giving all my health info to a multinational conglomerate lol

My fault didn’t try to make it sound like your a ghost I just said blessed with your presence to say that everytime you join the convo it’s like god is talking through you to give the most holiest advice . I’ll check out RP Hypertrophy app. And I’ll start my cycle in 2 weeks

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

I like the cycle design bro. I ran pretty much the same cycle and had great results from it. I'd push it out to 16 weeks though and I stayed on 25 or 37.5mg if anavar from day 1. Just ground it up and put it under my tongue to dissolve an hour pre-workout. Didn't take it on my off days. My liver was fine after 16 weeks like that and all I had for support was Tudca and I'm way older than you lol. With the n2guard you'll be extra good with your liver.

It's good to have it all mapped out like this but base your dosing jumps off your progress. If you're still making solid progress week to week I'd say there's no real need to increase the ped load.

Ok solid just ground up the anavar put it under my tongue and I’ll be good through my cycle. Sounds great . I plan to stick to the 300 300 250 and don’t really plan to increase should be solid enough to get great results

 

[2Thick]

There are still 3 more pending test but will give yall what is going on right now. The pending test are testosterone FREE, Estradiol, and IGF 1
@LevButlerov @Kopite67 @ROIDDERS
@2Thick @BeMe @toddthelineman @Pigsy @HarleyGuy @Ulter @ceo

your LH, FSH and total test is dead in the water. your pituitary glands are still shut down. you need to run SERM + Test booster for another 6 weeks then test again 2-3 weeks after that. do NOT run steroids until this is recovered

 

[Ulter]

There are still 3 more pending test but will give yall what is going on right now. The pending test are testosterone FREE, Estradiol, and IGF 1
@LevButlerov @Kopite67 @ROIDDERS
@2Thick @BeMe @toddthelineman @Pigsy @HarleyGuy @Ulter @ceo

you're still shut down, boss. This is why we say people your age should not use steroids. It's very risky. What happens if you never recover?

 

[Ulter]

Got it I’ll wait to see what beme says when he decides to bless me with his presence.
But usually I do see people writing their progress on a notepad.

yeah i like @BeMe. he is a bit of a beta still but i like him anyway i'm trying to turn him alpha

 

[ROIDDERS]

There are still 3 more pending test but will give yall what is going on right now. The pending test are testosterone FREE, Estradiol, and IGF 1
@LevButlerov @Kopite67 @ROIDDERS
@2Thick @BeMe @toddthelineman @Pigsy @HarleyGuy @Ulter @ceo

Listen to the guys above. You are at rock bottom right now. You need to hopefully recover.

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

Listen to the guys above. You are at rock bottom right now. You need to hopefully recover.

Oh Levbutler says just to continue on with the cycle like planned? “
lets go as planned and cycle
and why not continue pct? its not going to do anything as you're going back on cycle either way, you'll just crash hormones and feel terrible for no reason”

But @2Thick Is also saying I need a serm and a test booster. Which serm what that be though?

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

you're still shut down, boss. This is why we say people your age should not use steroids. It's very risky. What happens if you never recover?

I already kinda prepared myself for this to be a possibly but I still have a chance right now to recover. But if I don’t well I already know understand the consequences and plus my natural testosterone was at 400 before any gear was used was bound to get on trt sooner or later . But 2thick mentioned about a serm and test booster to help out but on the other hand levbutler is mentioning to keep going forward with this cycle as planned. So I’ll figure out what’s the next step soon

 

[ROIDDERS]

Oh Levbutler says just to continue on with the cycle like planned? “
lets go as planned and cycle
and why not continue pct? its not going to do anything as you're going back on cycle either way, you'll just crash hormones and feel terrible for no reason”

But @2Thick Is also saying I need a serm and a test booster. Which serm what that be though?

if you run another 'cycle' that is just staying on

clearly your hpta is still needing time to recover. your chance of recovering will keep dropping and i can guarantee you that your test levels will never recover

 

[ceo]

i can hop back onto my PCT cycle I still have enough clomid and have some tamo left

bros you should have never stopped pct. you need pct when your levels are in the tank .. need to wait until your body bounces back to hop back in gear @Hungry_Mexican

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

if you run another 'cycle' that is just staying on

clearly your hpta is still needing time to recover. your chance of recovering will keep dropping and i can guarantee you that your test levels will never recover

Okay I’ll just see what serm 2thick was talking about and go that route

 

[LevButlerov]

Sounds good will continue as planned and start buying the necessary supplements

lets do it

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

lets do it

So I’m planning to wait on what my result of estradiol and from there see which serm to take along with test booster like how @2Thick mentioned. Everyone else @ceo @ROIDDERS is heavily recommending me to not continue the cycle until I get my hormones back to normal. I’m not trying to say your wrong but I’m more or less confused why they are telling me to hold off while your giving me the green light. If I can try to get my hormones back to normal and stop the chance of me losing my testosterone forever. But I still value your time and recommendation so what do you think?

 

[ROIDDERS]

Okay I’ll just see what serm 2thick was talking about and go that route

SERM= typically nolva and clomid

 

[ROIDDERS]

So I’m planning to wait on what my result of estradiol and from there see which serm to take along with test booster like how @2Thick mentioned. Everyone else @ceo @ROIDDERS is heavily recommending me to not continue the cycle until I get my hormones back to normal. I’m not trying to say your wrong but I’m more or less confused why they are telling me to hold off while your giving me the green light. If I can try to get my hormones back to normal and stop the chance of me losing my testosterone forever. But I still value your time and recommendation so what do you think?

you need to make ur own decisions man. it depends on what you want

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

you need to make ur own decisions man. it depends on what you want

im already on board with saving my test but just hearing out lev and what he is thinking he already mentioned that it was already a waste of time trying to hop back on PCT.

 

[Ulter]

I already kinda prepared myself for this to be a possibly but I still have a chance right now to recover. But if I don’t well I already know understand the consequences and plus my natural testosterone was at 400 before any gear was used was bound to get on trt sooner or later . But 2thick mentioned about a serm and test booster to help out but on the other hand levbutler is mentioning to keep going forward with this cycle as planned. So I’ll figure out what’s the next step soon

if your test was 400 before. that is your baseline. and you want to aim for that # before hopping back on gear

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

if your test was 400 before. that is your baseline. and you want to aim for that # before hopping back on gear

Sounds good just waiting to see what my estradiol says to see what I need to take to get my test back to normal

 

[Ulter]

Sounds good just waiting to see what my estradiol says to see what I need to take to get my test back to normal

high estrogen will prevent test recovery. you want estrogen lower right now that is where the SERM's come in to play. but remember only your own body can recover

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

high estrogen will prevent test recovery. you want estrogen lower right now that is where the SERM's come in to play. but remember only your own body can recover

I been reading about HCG peptides that can help restore test if my estrogen is indeed low.

 

[Ulter]

I been reading about HCG peptides that can help restore test if my estrogen is indeed low.

whoever is telling you to use hcg is an idiot. call them out

hcg delays recovery its a hormone. so bad idea on that

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

whoever is telling you to use hcg is an idiot. call them out

hcg delays recovery its a hormone. so bad idea on that

Roger that will do I’ll send out another message hopefully by than end of today if final blood results show

 

[Ulter]

Roger that will do I’ll send out another message hopefully by than end of today if final blood results show

can you post up exactly when you stopped steroids and the longest ester. so take the ester half life and multiply by 5 just to be aggressive on the #'s. so if you took test E it would be 10X5= 50 days. so your body isn't gonna recover until those times

 

[2Thick]

Oh Levbutler says just to continue on with the cycle like planned? “
lets go as planned and cycle
and why not continue pct? its not going to do anything as you're going back on cycle either way, you'll just crash hormones and feel terrible for no reason”

But @2Thick Is also saying I need a serm and a test booster. Which serm what that be though?

if you don't want to recover then continue. if you want to recover and not go on trt for life then don't

 

[LevButlerov]

So I’m planning to wait on what my result of estradiol and from there see which serm to take along with test booster like how @2Thick mentioned. Everyone else @ceo @ROIDDERS is heavily recommending me to not continue the cycle until I get my hormones back to normal. I’m not trying to say your wrong but I’m more or less confused why they are telling me to hold off while your giving me the green light. If I can try to get my hormones back to normal and stop the chance of me losing my testosterone forever. But I still value your time and recommendation so what do you think?

when is your bloods back?

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

can you post up exactly when you stopped steroids and the longest ester. so take the ester half life and multiply by 5 just to be aggressive on the #'s. so if you took test E it would be 10X5= 50 days. so your body isn't gonna recover until those times

I took test CYP and Deca together for the last pin on April 1st and started pct on April 28th and finished my PCT March 28th

For Deca half like I believe it’s 12x5=60

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

when is your bloods back?

Hopefully today around evening

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

if you don't want to recover then continue. if you want to recover and not go on trt for life then don't

It’s all good I’m figuring things out right now talking with ulter and roidders about it

 

[2Thick]

It’s all good I’m figuring things out right now talking with ulter and roidders about it

yeah my advice is don't go on trt for life. you will destroy your fertility and in 5-10 years you will regret it

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

yeah my advice is don't go on trt for life. you will destroy your fertility and in 5-10 years you will regret it

Yea I sent out a message before just confused about where everyone thoughts are at and pretty much how to get my test back to normal levels since this is my first time trying to solve this issue. So I’m just trying my best to understand everyone’s reasoning and write them down for future reference

 

[2Thick]

Yea I sent out a message before just confused about where everyone thoughts are at and pretty much how to get my test back to normal levels since this is my first time trying to solve this issue. So I’m just trying my best to understand everyone’s reasoning and write them down for future reference

aim for getting back to your baseline first. your pct needs to be stretched longer. a mistake people make is they run too short a pct or too early. remember it takes time for the esters to leave your system

 

[LevButlerov]

Hopefully today around evening

waiting

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

waiting

I’ll send out a message tagging you on it when it arrives

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

aim for getting back to your baseline first. your pct needs to be stretched longer. a mistake people make is they run too short a pct or too early. remember it takes time for the esters to leave your system

will do! I probably ran mine to early

 

[2Thick]

will do! I probably ran mine to early

if it takes 5 weeks for esters to clear. and you finish pct 2 weeks after that. then really your pct was only 2 weeks when it should be many more days

 

[LevButlerov]

I’ll send out a message tagging you on it when it arrives

perfect

 

[ceo]

So I’m planning to wait on what my result of estradiol and from there see which serm to take along with test booster like how @2Thick mentioned. Everyone else @ceo @ROIDDERS is heavily recommending me to not continue the cycle until I get my hormones back to normal. I’m not trying to say your wrong but I’m more or less confused why they are telling me to hold off while your giving me the green light. If I can try to get my hormones back to normal and stop the chance of me losing my testosterone forever. But I still value your time and recommendation so what do you think?

Bros, I think most people on their first couple cycles went through recovery issues. You're not alone on that but you want to make sure you stay patient. A lot of people decide to just stay on because they don't like the roller coaster but you need to do a better job of timing PCT.

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

if it takes 5 weeks for esters to clear. and you finish pct 2 weeks after that. then really your pct was only 2 weeks when it should be many more days

In order to measure don’t you take the half life and times it by 5? Than that’s when you can start the pct.

 

[BeMe]

My fault didn’t try to make it sound like your a ghost I just said blessed with your presence to say that everytime you join the convo it’s like god is talking through you to give the most holiest advice . I’ll check out RP Hypertrophy app. And I’ll start my cycle in 2 weeks

No worries I know you didn't intend it that way bro. Still felt bad for leaving you hanging tho.

The RP app is great but it's a bit prices. Boostcamp is a really good free app a few of my buddies use. They say it's really good even though it's free.

 

[BeMe]

Ok solid just ground up the anavar put it under my tongue and I’ll be good through my cycle. Sounds great . I plan to stick to the 300 300 250 and don’t really plan to increase should be solid enough to get great results

I think you're gonna feel like a god on that cycle lol

 

[HarleyGuy]

There are still 3 more pending test but will give yall what is going on right now. The pending test are testosterone FREE, Estradiol, and IGF 1
@LevButlerov @Kopite67 @ROIDDERS
@2Thick @BeMe @toddthelineman @Pigsy @HarleyGuy @Ulter @ceo

Damn brother just checked in on you and once I got to your bloodwork I had to stop and reply to just this. Let's get you back on the cycle train, or at least some TRT+. You hurting bro

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

No worries I know you didn't intend it that way bro. Still felt bad for leaving you hanging tho.

The RP app is great but it's a bit prices. Boostcamp is a really good free app a few of my buddies use. They say it's really good even though it's free.

It’s all good brother we all got things going on

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

Damn brother just checked in on you and once I got to your bloodwork I had to stop and reply to just this. Let's get you back on the cycle train, or at least some TRT+. You hurting bro

True it is pretty bad but nothing a lil strong mental fortitude can’t solve. Right now the story is lev wants me to also get back on cycle but everyone else is advising against it for right now we are waiting on estrogen(estradiol) blood work to come back to see what it says. Than I’ll see what lev says about it.

 

[HarleyGuy]

True it is pretty bad but nothing a lil strong mental fortitude can’t solve. Right now the story is lev wants me to also get back on cycle but everyone else is advising against it for right now we are waiting on estrogen(estradiol) blood work to come back to see what it says. Than I’ll see what lev says about it.

Can't go wrong waiting on any green light from @LevButlerov. I didn't read anything past your bloodwork but I wouldn't be surprised if he suggested that. Now you got 2 votes for cycle - but either way let's see e2 levels and adjust from there. Either way you don't want your Test levels in the tank.

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

Can't go wrong waiting on any green light from @LevButlerov. I didn't read anything past your bloodwork but I wouldn't be surprised if he suggested that. Now you got 2 votes for cycle - but either way let's see e2 levels and adjust from there. Either way you don't want your Test levels in the tank.

True I have respect for levs knowledge and his reasonings. I think I’m just worried about being on trt and what that entails

 

[ROIDDERS]

im already on board with saving my test but just hearing out lev and what he is thinking he already mentioned that it was already a waste of time trying to hop back on PCT.

your body has to recover. pct helps soften the landing.

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

your body has to recover. pct helps soften the landing.

From what I learned pct was a mixture of getting my system to start producing on its own, starts the process faster than on its own(without pills), and like you mentioned helps soft the landing which means that I don’t crash from lack of hormones. Am I on the right track?

 

[ROIDDERS]

From what I learned pct was a mixture of getting my system to start producing on its own, starts the process faster than on its own(without pills), and like you mentioned helps soft the landing which means that I don’t crash from lack of hormones. Am I on the right track?

No, PCT is not going to get your system to start producing on its own. That's not how it works. Only your body can start itself.

And yes on the second point, PCT basically manipulates your reproductive system into waking up so you don't crash. What you use in PCT is very important. If you use a hormone in PCT, you're only setting yourself back, which is why you should not use things like testosterone or HCG during PCT.

 

[Ulter]

I took test CYP and Deca together for the last pin on April 1st and started pct on April 28th and finished my PCT March 28th

For Deca half like I believe it’s 12x5=60

okay so with deca you're looking at probably about 80 or 90 days. A half-life is about 15 to 16 days.
Any time you run something with super long esters like that, you're probably going to need a full 6-9 months to recover.
So hopefully that makes sense to you and you understand now. If you want to do it a better way, just run shorter esters going forward or short orals.

 

[2Thick]

In order to measure don’t you take the half life and times it by 5? Than that’s when you can start the pct.

yes but start the pct like 2 weeks before that date so the SERM's can build up in time

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

No, PCT is not going to get your system to start producing on its own. That's not how it works. Only your body can start itself.

And yes on the second point, PCT basically manipulates your reproductive system into waking up so you don't crash. What you use in PCT is very important. If you use a hormone in PCT, you're only setting yourself back, which is why you should not use things like testosterone or HCG during PCT.

Got it I’m not starting to understand thanks roidders

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

okay so with deca you're looking at probably about 80 or 90 days. A half-life is about 15 to 16 days.
Any time you run something with super long esters like that, you're probably going to need a full 6-9 months to recover.
So hopefully that makes sense to you and you understand now. If you want to do it a better way, just run shorter esters going forward or short orals.

Probably will do so moving forward it’s my fault I should have known before. It’s all good I live and learn.

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

yes but start the pct like 2 weeks before that date so the SERM's can build up in time

Got it will keep that in mind

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

Final blood results

@LevButlerov @ROIDDERS @Kopite67 @HarleyGuy @Ulter @BeMe @2Thick @toddthelineman

 

[HarleyGuy]

Final blood results

@LevButlerov @ROIDDERS @Kopite67 @HarleyGuy @Ulter @BeMe @2Thick @toddthelineman

e2 is tanked bro it was as low as mine was
Same with T
You're fully crashed right now

I'd continue the cycle or at least TRT/TRT+

If you don't wanna have kids anymore nothing wrong with TRT I've been doing it for 8 years now since 2018.
You could use a long ester like Cyp and even just pin once a week to at least keep your T levels all in range or mid/high range.

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

e2 is tanked bro it was as low as mine was
Same with T
You're fully crashed right now

I'd continue the cycle or at least TRT/TRT+

If you don't wanna have kids anymore nothing wrong with TRT I've been doing it for 8 years now since 2018.
You could use a long ester like Cyp and even just pin once a week to at least keep your T levels all in range or mid/high range.

If I were to get on trt I just need to have medical paperwork saying I need it so I can pass it along to the military. Mmm still deciding on what I want to do I’ll think more about it but leaning more towards just starting the cycle

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

If I were to get on trt I just need to have medical paperwork saying I need it so I can pass it along to the military. Mmm still deciding on what I want to do I’ll think more about it but leaning more towards just starting the cycle

@HarleyGuy Nevermind forgot the whole first sentence .

 

[ROIDDERS]

Final blood results

@LevButlerov @ROIDDERS @Kopite67 @HarleyGuy @Ulter @BeMe @2Thick @toddthelineman

you are still shut down. This is why you need to stay on PCT.

 

[LevButlerov]

Final blood results

@LevButlerov @ROIDDERS @Kopite67 @HarleyGuy @Ulter @BeMe @2Thick @toddthelineman

If I were to get on trt I just need to have medical paperwork saying I need it so I can pass it along to the military. Mmm still deciding on what I want to do I’ll think more about it but leaning more towards just starting the cycle

7 e2 on lcms? wow! low. are you using anything besides test? like eq or aromasin before the pin? @Hungry_Mexican

 

[2Thick]

e2 is tanked bro it was as low as mine was
Same with T
You're fully crashed right now

I'd continue the cycle or at least TRT/TRT+

If you don't wanna have kids anymore nothing wrong with TRT I've been doing it for 8 years now since 2018.
You could use a long ester like Cyp and even just pin once a week to at least keep your T levels all in range or mid/high range.

he is only 22 !!! if he was 52 i would agree with you.
but 22? trt is dumb. he hasn't given his body a chance to recover yet

 

[Ulter]

Final blood results

@LevButlerov @ROIDDERS @Kopite67 @HarleyGuy @Ulter @BeMe @2Thick @toddthelineman

as we have been telling you. GIVE YOUR BODY A CHANCE TO RECOVER. it needs to bounce back

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

7 e2 on lcms? wow! low. are you using anything besides test? like eq or aromasin before the pin? @Hungry_Mexican

Nope nothing that I already told yall just test deca and tbol and proviron

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

as we have been telling you. GIVE YOUR BODY A CHANCE TO RECOVER. it needs to bounce back

@2Thick @ROIDDERS

So that means I just hope back on my PCT. Immediately. Lev seemed surprised on how low my estrogen is but to let y’all know I did not take anything else just did test cyp, deca, proviron, and tbol

 

[Hungry_Mexican]

Not too shabby for a guy that’s got no balls working


@LevButlerov @ROIDDERS @Kopite67 @HarleyGuy@Ulter @BeMe @2Thick @toddthelineman

 

[Ulter]

@2Thick @ROIDDERS

So that means I just hope back on my PCT. Immediately. Lev seemed surprised on how low my estrogen is but to let y’all know I did not take anything else just did test cyp, deca, proviron, and tbol

yes run another pct while your body recovers. then test again in like 6 weeks. i bet your numbers start rebounding