Cardio Cuck

[OriginiAborigene]

Stats:
Age: 26 | Male | Height: 167cm | Weight: 107kg | 50% bodyfat


Current/Previous Stack:

• Retatrutide (high dose 5–12mg, 3+ months). 1x Weekly.

Starting Soon:

• CJC-1295 no DAC + Ipamorelin
• GLOW Stack (BPC-157 + TB-500 + GHK-Cu)

Training:

• Weight training 5x/week
• Cycling 1–2x/week, 60–90 min at 155bpm avg

The Problem:
Despite 3+ months on high-dose Retatrutide with significant appetite suppression, zero fat loss. Training volume is high. Root cause unknown — pending full bloodwork panel including reverse T3, fasting insulin, HOMA-IR, AM cortisol and IGF-1 baseline before introducing new compounds.

Question: Is the panel correct, will it tell me what I need to know? Do I even need to know and waste money on this bs when I know the compound sources are good (lab tested) and I can just get the panel done once after? is something wrong in my thought process/cycle? I've been going to the gym with a personal trainer for almost a year now and I look a little buffed sure but not much to show for it, and the main reason was fat loss anyways. I can't imagine eating like this for the rest of my life let alone get to the results I want and maintain it if I don't figure shit out.


Protocol — Phased Introduction:


Phase 1 — Starting soon

• CJC-1295 no DAC + Ipamorelin

Phase 2 — Adding Shortly

• Tesamorelin 2mg/day
• SS-31 (Elamipretide) 10mg/day
• MOTS-c 10mg/week
• NAD+ 1000mg
• 5-Amino-1MQ 5mg/day
• Epitalon 5mg/day x 20 days

Phase 3 — Minimum 1 Week After Phase 2

• SLU-PP-332 Super suspension in oil, subQ

Ongoing / Transition

• Retatrutide (continuing)
• GLOW finishing → standalone GHK-Cu post-GLOW
• Semax — morning
• Selank — evening

Primary Goal: Break fat loss plateau. Recomp — lose fat while building muscle. Target 30kg fat loss / 5kg lean mass gain over 6 months.

 

[toddthelineman]

Zero fat loss for months using retatrutide? And you got stronger and look more muscular? That’s probably not “zero” fat loss. You’re probably gaining muscle which you need to keep the fat off anyway.

Honestly the only way anyone can help with this is for you to run a log. It’s very likely that things are changing positively for you but it’s hard to see it when you look at yourself daily. There’s no doubt that you can break through this plateau, it’s just a matter of seeing the whole picture to find where things can be improved. And stalling for a while to let your body adjust is often a good thing.

Another possibility: your Reta is lab tested? Did YOU send it to a lab? Is it from an EVO approved source? Anyone can copy a lab test, but EVO approved sources are much more accountable than others. If you are not getting appetite suppression I would be skeptical.

 

[OriginiAborigene]

Zero fat loss for months using retatrutide? And you got stronger and look more muscular? That’s probably not “zero” fat loss. You’re probably gaining muscle which you need to keep the fat off anyway.

Honestly the only way anyone can help with this is for you to run a log. It’s very likely that things are changing positively for you but it’s hard to see it when you look at yourself daily. There’s no doubt that you can break through this plateau, it’s just a matter of seeing the whole picture to find where things can be improved. And stalling for a while to let your body adjust is often a good thing.

Another possibility: your Reta is lab tested? Did YOU send it to a lab? Is it from an EVO approved source? Anyone can copy a lab test, but EVO approved sources are much more accountable than others. If you are not getting appetite suppression I would be skeptical.

I'm a broker of peptides myself, dealing with UHNW clients, they mandate testing on each shipment so yes, I send (them) myself for testing to Janoshik. Results prove 99.4%+ purity

I do feel the hunger suppression. I'm onto 3 egg whites, 50g of cooked rice, 30g of broccoli and 200g of chicken per meal. once a week / two weeks I eat something else like a hamburger or fried chicken, very limited, because, Reta. maybe once a month, some sweet.

I do feel stronger and I do look more muscular, but my weight is nowhere near what I imagined it to be, my goal is 1.5/2kg loss per week and being 12 weeks in I expected more than the few KG's I added as muscle if that makes sense.

I'll be waiting for the incoming phase 2 stack to arrive and then I'll make a log, I think you need a before and after for the log so i'll measure more accurately (I did a Dexa scan yesterday) so that's my starting point let's say. Thanks for the reply.

 

[toddthelineman]

I'm a broker of peptides myself, dealing with UHNW clients, they mandate testing on each shipment so yes, I send (them) myself for testing to Janoshik. Results prove 99.4%+ purity

I do feel the hunger suppression. I'm onto 3 egg whites, 50g of cooked rice, 30g of broccoli and 200g of chicken per meal. once a week / two weeks I eat something else like a hamburger or fried chicken, very limited, because, Reta. maybe once a month, some sweet.

I do feel stronger and I do look more muscular, but my weight is nowhere near what I imagined it to be, my goal is 1.5/2kg loss per week and being 12 weeks in I expected more than the few KG's I added as muscle if that makes sense.

I'll be waiting for the incoming phase 2 stack to arrive and then I'll make a log, I think you need a before and after for the log so i'll measure more accurately (I did a Dexa scan yesterday) so that's my starting point let's say. Thanks for the reply.

Ok you’ve got a really good grasp of what you’re doing! There are other loggers who have stalled on glp1s. Check out @kcates and especially his experience with cagrilintide. I have personally never used a glp1 as I have always struggled to gain weight or keep it on. Don't sell peptides on EVO until you can get approved. That’s important

 

[stevesmi]

Stats:
Age: 26 | Male | Height: 167cm | Weight: 107kg | 50% bodyfat


Current/Previous Stack:

• Retatrutide (high dose 5–12mg, 3+ months). 1x Weekly.

Starting Soon:

• CJC-1295 no DAC + Ipamorelin
• GLOW Stack (BPC-157 + TB-500 + GHK-Cu)

Training:

• Weight training 5x/week
• Cycling 1–2x/week, 60–90 min at 155bpm avg

The Problem:
Despite 3+ months on high-dose Retatrutide with significant appetite suppression, zero fat loss. Training volume is high. Root cause unknown — pending full bloodwork panel including reverse T3, fasting insulin, HOMA-IR, AM cortisol and IGF-1 baseline before introducing new compounds.

Question: Is the panel correct, will it tell me what I need to know? Do I even need to know and waste money on this bs when I know the compound sources are good (lab tested) and I can just get the panel done once after? is something wrong in my thought process/cycle? I've been going to the gym with a personal trainer for almost a year now and I look a little buffed sure but not much to show for it, and the main reason was fat loss anyways. I can't imagine eating like this for the rest of my life let alone get to the results I want and maintain it if I don't figure shit out.


Protocol — Phased Introduction:


Phase 1 — Starting soon

• CJC-1295 no DAC + Ipamorelin

Phase 2 — Adding Shortly

• Tesamorelin 2mg/day
• SS-31 (Elamipretide) 10mg/day
• MOTS-c 10mg/week
• NAD+ 1000mg
• 5-Amino-1MQ 5mg/day
• Epitalon 5mg/day x 20 days

Phase 3 — Minimum 1 Week After Phase 2

• SLU-PP-332 Super suspension in oil, subQ

Ongoing / Transition

• Retatrutide (continuing)
• GLOW finishing → standalone GHK-Cu post-GLOW
• Semax — morning
• Selank — evening

Primary Goal: Break fat loss plateau. Recomp — lose fat while building muscle. Target 30kg fat loss / 5kg lean mass gain over 6 months.

Can you post pics

This doesn’t make sense. 50% body fat at your weight cant be right

 

[Mobster]

Cuck?

As in someone else does the cardio and you find out later?

 

[toddthelineman]

Cuck?

As in someone else does the cardio and you find out later?

More like he likes to watch other people do cardio hahahaha.

 

[Kingofspades712]

Yeah he sits in a chair while they do stair master

 

[Kingofspades712]

This has to be a troll post.

It’s fucking biology man if you’re in a deficit you’ll burn fat. You’re probably eating nothing but Peanut butter cups and potato chips

 

[OriginiAborigene]

Cuck?

As in someone else does the cardio and you find out later?

Cuck, as in, I’d much rather watch someone do cardio than do it myself

Can you post pics

This doesn’t make sense. 50% body fat at your weight cant be right

I'll post dexa tomorrow

This has to be a troll post.

It’s fucking biology man if you’re in a deficit you’ll burn fat. You’re probably eating nothing but Peanut butter cups and potato chips

No need to be a mean little sausage.

 

[Kingofspades712]

I can't imagine eating like this for the rest of my life let alone get to the results I want and maintain it if I don't figure shit out.

This is the only sentence about diet in your post. What’s your current macros?

 

[Kingofspades712]

Macros are the single most important factor of any cut or bulk so I can’t take your post serious seeing you didn’t list them. I’m not trying to be an ass hole just being upfront and honest

 

[stevesmi]

I'll post dexa tomorrow

dexa is great, but actual pics we can tell you your body fat

 

[LevButlerov]

Stats:
Age: 26 | Male | Height: 167cm | Weight: 107kg | 50% bodyfat


Current/Previous Stack:

• Retatrutide (high dose 5–12mg, 3+ months). 1x Weekly.

Starting Soon:

• CJC-1295 no DAC + Ipamorelin
• GLOW Stack (BPC-157 + TB-500 + GHK-Cu)

Training:

• Weight training 5x/week
• Cycling 1–2x/week, 60–90 min at 155bpm avg

The Problem:
Despite 3+ months on high-dose Retatrutide with significant appetite suppression, zero fat loss. Training volume is high. Root cause unknown — pending full bloodwork panel including reverse T3, fasting insulin, HOMA-IR, AM cortisol and IGF-1 baseline before introducing new compounds.

Question: Is the panel correct, will it tell me what I need to know? Do I even need to know and waste money on this bs when I know the compound sources are good (lab tested) and I can just get the panel done once after? is something wrong in my thought process/cycle? I've been going to the gym with a personal trainer for almost a year now and I look a little buffed sure but not much to show for it, and the main reason was fat loss anyways. I can't imagine eating like this for the rest of my life let alone get to the results I want and maintain it if I don't figure shit out.


Protocol — Phased Introduction:


Phase 1 — Starting soon

• CJC-1295 no DAC + Ipamorelin

Phase 2 — Adding Shortly

• Tesamorelin 2mg/day
• SS-31 (Elamipretide) 10mg/day
• MOTS-c 10mg/week
• NAD+ 1000mg
• 5-Amino-1MQ 5mg/day
• Epitalon 5mg/day x 20 days

Phase 3 — Minimum 1 Week After Phase 2

• SLU-PP-332 Super suspension in oil, subQ

Ongoing / Transition

• Retatrutide (continuing)
• GLOW finishing → standalone GHK-Cu post-GLOW
• Semax — morning
• Selank — evening

Primary Goal: Break fat loss plateau. Recomp — lose fat while building muscle. Target 30kg fat loss / 5kg lean mass gain over 6 months.

I'm a broker of peptides myself, dealing with UHNW clients, they mandate testing on each shipment so yes, I send (them) myself for testing to Janoshik. Results prove 99.4%+ purity

I do feel the hunger suppression. I'm onto 3 egg whites, 50g of cooked rice, 30g of broccoli and 200g of chicken per meal. once a week / two weeks I eat something else like a hamburger or fried chicken, very limited, because, Reta. maybe once a month, some sweet.

I do feel stronger and I do look more muscular, but my weight is nowhere near what I imagined it to be, my goal is 1.5/2kg loss per week and being 12 weeks in I expected more than the few KG's I added as muscle if that makes sense.

I'll be waiting for the incoming phase 2 stack to arrive and then I'll make a log, I think you need a before and after for the log so i'll measure more accurately (I did a Dexa scan yesterday) so that's my starting point let's say. Thanks for the reply.

welcome to the EVO family @OriginiAborigene thank you for sharing, but are you sure you're 50% bodyfat? that seems very unlikely, how did you measure this?
Do not wait for phase 2 to start the log, the log starts now because this is the exact moment we need to see what is wrong. nobody can help you from a compound list or purity report, we need daily proof of food, movement, weight trend and recovery.

Start the log today with your DEXA, daily morning weight, every meal weighed, calories, protein carbs fats, steps, training, cycling, sleep, BP, glucose if you have it, retatrutide dose and side effects. Do not add CJC, ipa, tesa, SS31, MOTS c, NAD, 5 Amino 1MQ, Epitalon or SLU until the EVO family can see the log, because right now adding more compounds only adds more confusion. 15min of your time to start

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
• Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My weight loss peptides Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

 

[ceo]

Cuck?

As in someone else does the cardio and you find out later?

Bros, cuck and BBC terms, something that's x-rated

 

[ROIDDERS]

Stats:
Age: 26 | Male | Height: 167cm | Weight: 107kg | 50% bodyfat


Current/Previous Stack:

• Retatrutide (high dose 5–12mg, 3+ months). 1x Weekly.

Starting Soon:

• CJC-1295 no DAC + Ipamorelin
• GLOW Stack (BPC-157 + TB-500 + GHK-Cu)

Training:

• Weight training 5x/week
• Cycling 1–2x/week, 60–90 min at 155bpm avg

The Problem:
Despite 3+ months on high-dose Retatrutide with significant appetite suppression, zero fat loss. Training volume is high. Root cause unknown — pending full bloodwork panel including reverse T3, fasting insulin, HOMA-IR, AM cortisol and IGF-1 baseline before introducing new compounds.

Question: Is the panel correct, will it tell me what I need to know? Do I even need to know and waste money on this bs when I know the compound sources are good (lab tested) and I can just get the panel done once after? is something wrong in my thought process/cycle? I've been going to the gym with a personal trainer for almost a year now and I look a little buffed sure but not much to show for it, and the main reason was fat loss anyways. I can't imagine eating like this for the rest of my life let alone get to the results I want and maintain it if I don't figure shit out.


Protocol — Phased Introduction:


Phase 1 — Starting soon

• CJC-1295 no DAC + Ipamorelin

Phase 2 — Adding Shortly

• Tesamorelin 2mg/day
• SS-31 (Elamipretide) 10mg/day
• MOTS-c 10mg/week
• NAD+ 1000mg
• 5-Amino-1MQ 5mg/day
• Epitalon 5mg/day x 20 days

Phase 3 — Minimum 1 Week After Phase 2

• SLU-PP-332 Super suspension in oil, subQ

Ongoing / Transition

• Retatrutide (continuing)
• GLOW finishing → standalone GHK-Cu post-GLOW
• Semax — morning
• Selank — evening

Primary Goal: Break fat loss plateau. Recomp — lose fat while building muscle. Target 30kg fat loss / 5kg lean mass gain over 6 months.

It would really help if you got a log going and you posted your actual diet and pictures so we can see what you look like. We can go from there.

 

[Ulter]

I honestly don't understand this post at all. There's no way that you're that high in body fat, maybe 20 or 25% I can believe.

 

[2Thick]

Without getting a log going, it's honestly hard to diagnose you with what's going on here. We know nothing about your actual stats.

 

[Mobster]

Bros, cuck and BBC terms, something that's x-rated

Oh I know. I've seen all those and worse

 

[Mobster]

Cuck, as in, I’d much rather watch someone do cardio than do it myself



I'll post dexa tomorrow

No need to be a mean little sausage.

And 50% bodyfat?

 

[OriginiAborigene]

Spoiler: Disgusting

RET works (I eat much less) and I train.

My RET has scaled from 3mg to 9mg so far. I'm working it up to 12mg which is the clinical proven for lipolisis (i've read).

I do not consume in any way more than i should be. I think my organism has adapted to consume a fraction of the 2000 supposed KCAL i should be burning.


my thread was made to understand what to run to have a baseline of 'current state' for my goal and what I plan on using, so I can get the bloodwork done ASAP before starting with all the cjc+ipa, tesamorelin, slupp etc etc.

I've been weight training for 8-10 months~ 5x a week (missed one or two weeks tops) with personal trainer supervisor btw

 

[OriginiAborigene]

My personal thoughts, self-diagnoses are:

1) I have some type of thyroid problem (unlikekely)
2) I'm missing something cuz im 10% retarded
3) My mitochondria is fucked up because i'm fat (hence the stack for Mito)
4) my extremely low stress levels x my "no cardio" routine = all goes into fat somehow, as i got adapted to intake = energy, rather than intake + burn = energy.
5) maybe my testosterone is fucked.

welcome to the EVO family @OriginiAborigene thank you for sharing, but are you sure you're 50% bodyfat? that seems very unlikely, how did you measure this?
Do not wait for phase 2 to start the log, the log starts now because this is the exact moment we need to see what is wrong. nobody can help you from a compound list or purity report, we need daily proof of food, movement, weight trend and recovery.

Start the log today with your DEXA, daily morning weight, every meal weighed, calories, protein carbs fats, steps, training, cycling, sleep, BP, glucose if you have it, retatrutide dose and side effects. Do not add CJC, ipa, tesa, SS31, MOTS c, NAD, 5 Amino 1MQ, Epitalon or SLU until the EVO family can see the log, because right now adding more compounds only adds more confusion. 15min of your time to start

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
• Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My weight loss peptides Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

Thank you evo brotha, I'll do that then

 

[OriginiAborigene]

It would really help if you got a log going and you posted your actual diet and pictures so we can see what you look like. We can go from there.

I did now. thanks if you take the time to evaluate

 

[BritishCanadian]

Spoiler: Disgusting

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RET works (I eat much less) and I train.

My RET has scaled from 3mg to 9mg so far. I'm working it up to 12mg which is the clinical proven for lipolisis (i've read).

I do not consume in any way more than i should be. I think my organism has adapted to consume a fraction of the 2000 supposed KCAL i should be burning.


my thread was made to understand what to run to have a baseline of 'current state' for my goal and what I plan on using, so I can get the bloodwork done ASAP before starting with all the cjc+ipa, tesamorelin, slupp etc etc.

I've been weight training for 8-10 months~ 5x a week (missed one or two weeks tops) with personal trainer supervisor btw

Bro, it looks to me like youve simply let yourself go (or never had it). But join the club lol , youre not alone, and youre in the right place.

Its nothing a few tweaks to diet and training cant fix.

Sure youve got some work to do, but it is doable.

And we are all here to support you and advise if needed

 

[LevButlerov]

My personal thoughts, self-diagnoses are:

1) I have some type of thyroid problem (unlikekely)
2) I'm missing something cuz im 10% retarded
3) My mitochondria is fucked up because i'm fat (hence the stack for Mito)
4) my extremely low stress levels x my "no cardio" routine = all goes into fat somehow, as i got adapted to intake = energy, rather than intake + burn = energy.
5) maybe my testosterone is fucked.




Thank you evo brotha, I'll do that then

I'll check your log and we can discuss it there

 

[ROIDDERS]

I did now. thanks if you take the time to evaluate

I will definitely check it.

 

[kcates]

I'm a broker of peptides myself, dealing with UHNW clients, they mandate testing on each shipment so yes, I send (them) myself for testing to Janoshik. Results prove 99.4%+ purity

I do feel the hunger suppression. I'm onto 3 egg whites, 50g of cooked rice, 30g of broccoli and 200g of chicken per meal. once a week / two weeks I eat something else like a hamburger or fried chicken, very limited, because, Reta. maybe once a month, some sweet.

I do feel stronger and I do look more muscular, but my weight is nowhere near what I imagined it to be, my goal is 1.5/2kg loss per week and being 12 weeks in I expected more than the few KG's I added as muscle if that makes sense.

I'll be waiting for the incoming phase 2 stack to arrive and then I'll make a log, I think you need a before and after for the log so i'll measure more accurately (I did a Dexa scan yesterday) so that's my starting point let's say. Thanks for the reply.

I have been on terzepatide for almost 3 years. This September will be 3 years. Nov. Of 2023 I weighed 239 lbs. over the years I have been as low as 225 and I am currently at 243 on a bulk running deca 350 mg sustenon 750 and 300 primo. 80% of that time I stayed right around 230-235 lbs but have loss a lot of fat and have just replacing it with muscle. Been a good recomp. If you working out and getting your macros in you can just stay around your weight as you get in better shape. If u want to stop eating jump on some cagrilintide and ramp that up. I found cag was better for killing appetite then terzepatide. Terzepatide when u ramp up and can't eat you get other side effects which are not pleasant. Cag I ramped it up I just couldn't eat and other then that I didn't feel bad. I have a cag log about it and I was using it to come down off my high dose of terzepatide. It works for that purpose but I couldn't eat at all and I was starting a bulk. During that month I still added 2.5 lbs of muscle and got to my lowest body fat percentage based on my inbody scan. I hope this give you some insight into things from my experience. Got any questions about my experience feel free to question me. I am here to help

 

[OriginiAborigene]

I have been on terzepatide for almost 3 years. This September will be 3 years. Nov. Of 2023 I weighed 239 lbs. over the years I have been as low as 225 and I am currently at 243 on a bulk running deca 350 mg sustenon 750 and 300 primo. 80% of that time I stayed right around 230-235 lbs but have loss a lot of fat and have just replacing it with muscle. Been a good recomp. If you working out and getting your macros in you can just stay around your weight as you get in better shape. If u want to stop eating jump on some cagrilintide and ramp that up. I found cag was better for killing appetite then terzepatide. Terzepatide when u ramp up and can't eat you get other side effects which are not pleasant. Cag I ramped it up I just couldn't eat and other then that I didn't feel bad. I have a cag log about it and I was using it to come down off my high dose of terzepatide. It works for that purpose but I couldn't eat at all and I was starting a bulk. During that month I still added 2.5 lbs of muscle and got to my lowest body fat percentage based on my inbody scan. I hope this give you some insight into things from my experience. Got any questions about my experience feel free to question me. I am here to help

Thanks for your insight, with Retatrutide i have no hunger at all, i could go a whole week without eating.

My issue is that despite not eating(more than i should) i dont lose nearly enough fat.
I figured so far that the main issue is probably the mitochondria.

I dont want to recomp and maintain weight, i want to lose fat hard

 

[kcates]

How much you eating calorie wise now? How big are you? How much weight are you needing to lose?

 

[OriginiAborigene]

How much you eating calorie wise now? How big are you? How much weight are you needing to lose?

750-1000 kcal a day intake
106 kg

Target 70-75 kg

 

[HarleyGuy]

My personal thoughts, self-diagnoses are:

1) I have some type of thyroid problem (unlikekely)
2) I'm missing something cuz im 10% retarded
3) My mitochondria is fucked up because i'm fat (hence the stack for Mito)
4) my extremely low stress levels x my "no cardio" routine = all goes into fat somehow, as i got adapted to intake = energy, rather than intake + burn = energy.
5) maybe my testosterone is fucked.

6) Your diet is all wrong

 

[Mobster]

750-1000 kcal a day intake
106 kg

Target 70-75 kg

Post up the diet