Cloudy Tren Ace?

[Soldier32]

I ordered two vials of Tren Ace from a source that hasn't done me wrong yet. I won't name the source as I'm not going to drag them through the mud. They have been great to me so far. I might be over analyzing things too and this may not even be a big deal. The brand is ZPHC and batch #'s check out on their website, so I know it is legit from them and from my source. The only issue I'm concerned with is the transparency of the Tren. I was expecting it to be more clearer, is it normal Ace to be a less transparent as say testosterone? I am attaching a few pics and any insight would be appreciated. Thanks fellas.

 

[P0N]

They probably just used a different carrier oil into the tren than in the test.

 

[Soldier32]

They probably just used a different carrier oil into the tren than in the test.

That's what I was thinking too but I wasn't sure. It's tea tree oil or something like that where the test is like grape seed or something.

 

[Mobster]

I ordered two vials of Tren Ace from a source that hasn't done me wrong yet. I won't name the source as I'm not going to drag them through the mud. They have been great to me so far. I might be over analyzing things too and this may not even be a big deal. The brand is ZPHC and batch #'s check out on their website, so I know it is legit from them and from my source. The only issue I'm concerned with is the transparency of the Tren. I was expecting it to be more clearer, is it normal Ace to be a less transparent as say testosterone? I am attaching a few pics and any insight would be appreciated. Thanks fellas.

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Don't post here until AFTER you've contacted them and asked

 

[Soldier32]

Don't post here until AFTER you've contacted them and asked

Doesn't make much sense to do that if this is normal. That's why I came here first. I can send them an email but why waste their time if it is normal.

 

[Soldier32]

Has anyone done a cycle with Tren A? Is this a normal looking vial?

 

[reconRoof]

Has anyone done a cycle with Tren A? Is this a normal looking vial?

yeah the vial its self looks about right, its the ones you take of the top bit and dip your needle in

 

[Soldier32]

yeah the vial its self looks about right, its the ones you take of the top bit and dip your needle in

Yeah that's what a vial is. Does the Tren look normal?

 

[stevesmi]

won't be hard to know if it is real or not when you use it

the carrier oil makes the color diff

 

[dylangemelli]

Don't post here until AFTER you've contacted them and asked

exactly......

 

[Soldier32]

You know, I can see why people get pissed off at these forums. There's no help here. Except for the two people that had some input. I can see where the frustration comes from. As far as the oil is concerned, I'm going to say it's good to go. The vial looks like it's the culprit and I'm rolling with it. Besides, I highly doubt it's bunk since it checks out on their website. Even though that wasn't my fucking question.

Thanks for your collective wisdom so far, it's been very enlightening lol.

 

[cbbram]

I've seen Tren MANY different colors. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

 

[Soldier32]

Thanks I pinned it today. How long does it take for it to kick in? I heard a week but wanted some opinions.

 

[cbbram]

10 days...

 

[RickRock]

Thanks I pinned it today. How long does it take for it to kick in? I heard a week but wanted some opinions.

Doesnt take long with tren. These are very basic questions and tren is for advanced users only. What is your stats and experience?

 

[Soldier32]

Doesnt take long with tren. These are very basic questions and tren is for advanced users only. What is your stats and experience?

It is my first time with Tren. I know a lot about it and I know everyone else's responses to it will differ from my own. I just wanted your guys' reactions to it. I heard a week but wasn't sure if that was true or not. I've done two cycles before, one test only and one test dbol. Although, the dbol was fake. I'm hovering around 200 right now. I'm 5'11" and am 33 yo. Bf is probably around 13 but haven't checked it recently.

 

[cbbram]

Enjoy the ride... Keep your seat belt on

 

[awm1981]

Thanks I pinned it today. How long does it take for it to kick in? I heard a week but wanted some opinions.

As others have said honestly its a try it and see type deal. I have seen a ton of different colors, cloudy, etc vials and it can be due to a variety of things so really can either ask the source or dose it and run bloods.

As for the time to kick in its usually in the first 1-2 weeks. Make sure though to start low on the dose and increase as you go. The sides, once it kicks in, come on like a freight train so just be careful and dont increase the dose yet until you hit the first 2 weeks to make sure the dose is appropriate for you.

Also I find its better to find a good dose (say 150-200mg/week) and ride it out for 8-10 weeks (assuming you can handle the sides) than go with a higher dose and have to cut it short due to the side effects.

Again just my personal opinion hope that helps!

 

[Soldier32]

As others have said honestly its a try it and see type deal. I have seen a ton of different colors, cloudy, etc vials and it can be due to a variety of things so really can either ask the source or dose it and run bloods.

As for the time to kick in its usually in the first 1-2 weeks. Make sure though to start low on the dose and increase as you go. The sides, once it kicks in, come on like a freight train so just be careful and dont increase the dose yet until you hit the first 2 weeks to make sure the dose is appropriate for you.

Also I find its better to find a good dose (say 150-200mg/week) and ride it out for 8-10 weeks (assuming you can handle the sides) than go with a higher dose and have to cut it short due to the side effects.

Again just my personal opinion hope that helps!

Thank you it does! I'm running 75mg eod right now and will probably stick with that. I have heard that about the sides too which is why I'm running a low dose my first cycle. Yeah it's a weird color but it is verified and my source says it's good so we'll see. Do you think 400mg of test is too much or good? Honestly I'm just looking for the strength increase mostly. Thanks again.

 

[awm1981]

Thank you it does! I'm running 75mg eod right now and will probably stick with that. I have heard that about the sides too which is why I'm running a low dose my first cycle. Yeah it's a weird color but it is verified and my source says it's good so we'll see. Do you think 400mg of test is too much or good? Honestly I'm just looking for the strength increase mostly. Thanks again.

So varying opinions on this. Tren is the king of all strength/size builders. its 5 times stronger than test and can be run alone.

Having said that many will run a test dose higher than their tren dose. Usually though the sides and impact on your heart are not worth it. It looks like you are running around 262.5mg (on average) per week of tren so I would say do maybe 250-300mg/week test.

Again some will suggest 400mg-500mg+/week but really I feel its better to let the tren shine and do its work and add a TRT or slightly higher dose of test to mitigate side effects.

Long term health is worth more in my opinion than short terms gains. Plus if you try to increase strength too quickly you will destroy yours joints, ligaments, tendons, etc. Its better to gain over multiple cycles than try and have massive gains over a single cycle.

 

[Soldier32]

So varying opinions on this. Tren is the king of all strength/size builders. its 5 times stronger than test and can be run alone.

Having said that many will run a test dose higher than their tren dose. Usually though the sides and impact on your heart are not worth it. It looks like you are running around 262.5mg (on average) per week of tren so I would say do maybe 250-300mg/week test.

Again some will suggest 400mg-500mg+/week but really I feel its better to let the tren shine and do its work and add a TRT or slightly higher dose of test to mitigate side effects.

Long term health is worth more in my opinion than short terms gains. Plus if you try to increase strength too quickly you will destroy yours joints, ligaments, tendons, etc. Its better to gain over multiple cycles than try and have massive gains over a single cycle.

I agree with the varying opinions on tren color and clarity. That's what I've read too about letting tren be the star of the show sort of speak. I'm going to stick with 400 mg a week of test then adjust it if I need too. Test is on point, I was surprised by that lol. I was thinking about how my joints and tendons would handle the increase in strength. Honestly I don't feel any different so I guess I can either increase or decrease test/tren as needed to accommodate that. I agree with gaining over multiple cycles. I feel like since I've started cycling I have gained a good amount. But for sure my health is important and if I had to stop tren I'd do it. I am a little curious to see what happens when this tren kicks in finally.

 

[awm1981]

I agree with the varying opinions on tren color and clarity. That's what I've read too about letting tren be the star of the show sort of speak. I'm going to stick with 400 mg a week of test then adjust it if I need too. Test is on point, I was surprised by that lol. I was thinking about how my joints and tendons would handle the increase in strength. Honestly I don't feel any different so I guess I can either increase or decrease test/tren as needed to accommodate that. I agree with gaining over multiple cycles. I feel like since I've started cycling I have gained a good amount. But for sure my health is important and if I had to stop tren I'd do it. I am a little curious to see what happens when this tren kicks in finally.

Dude when the tren fully kicks in you are gonna be like WTF in a good way .

It’s like nothing you will have experienced before.

 

[Soldier32]

Dude when the tren fully kicks in you are gonna be like WTF in a good way .

It’s like nothing you will have experienced before.

God I hope so bro lol. At least on some level I'd like to feel it. So far I've it's only been 2 injections, so we'll see.

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I plan on getting bloods done in a couple of weeks. Mainly liver values, that's the one I'm really worried about. I'll post them when I get them.

 

[awm1981]

God I hope so bro lol. At least on some level I'd like to feel it. So far I've it's only been 2 injections, so we'll see.

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I plan on getting bloods done in a couple of weeks. Mainly liver values, that's the one I'm really worried about. I'll post them when I get them.

Yea with tren your estrogen levels will look crazy but test values may be nice to see as well. Def good though that you are getting bloods run mid cycle I always recommend them week 5 to make sure everything is looking good.

My best friend is running PSL tren ace right now and after about 10-14 days on dosing he was literally like a beast just killing it in the gym and the strength/mass was absurd. When people call it the king of steroids its no joke!

 

[Soldier32]

Yea with tren your estrogen levels will look crazy but test values may be nice to see as well. Def good though that you are getting bloods run mid cycle I always recommend them week 5 to make sure everything is looking good.

My best friend is running PSL tren ace right now and after about 10-14 days on dosing he was literally like a beast just killing it in the gym and the strength/mass was absurd. When people call it the king of steroids its no joke!

Dude that's awesome! I can't wait to feel that alive lol. I think this is kicking in but I don't want to get ahead of myself either. I was able to increase tricep extensions by 10 pounds right of the bat. I also had a crazy amount of energy. Everything went up today in all my workouts. Hitting 95lbs for reps was something I was never able to do before. That and I'm not tired at all, trensomnia is real I guess lol.

But yeah I think not getting bloods done is a stupid idea. Exactly what I was thinking, week 5 seemed like a good time to do it. I've got liver support that I take everyday but I like to be informed as well.

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I'll keep a log on how this product is going. There's no reviews that are recent so I figured why not review it myself.

 

[awm1981]

Dude that's awesome! I can't wait to feel that alive lol. I think this is kicking in but I don't want to get ahead of myself either. I was able to increase tricep extensions by 10 pounds right of the bat. I also had a crazy amount of energy. Everything went up today in all my workouts. Hitting 95lbs for reps was something I was never able to do before. That and I'm not tired at all, trensomnia is real I guess lol.

But yeah I think not getting bloods done is a stupid idea. Exactly what I was thinking, week 5 seemed like a good time to do it. I've got liver support that I take everyday but I like to be informed as well.

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I'll keep a log on how this product is going. There's no reviews that are recent so I figured why not review it myself.

Awesome sounds good brother and yea def keep a log if you can its very helpful for all!

Yea these are the tren sides. Insomnia, sweating profusely, most see their cardiovascular endurance take a hit (can be combatted with cardarine), etc but if you can keep them in check you will make phenomenal progress!