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[maxwell0612]

Bro when your competeing it's a whole other world with AAS and other supplements, I'm talking about 80% to 90%,of us that don't compete and use test deca mast anavar for positive gains and not abuse.. You can take test and these other AAS and have great positive results. When u get into heavy dosing and diuretics and what not yes you will pose a strain on your body. However if you get regular checkups and lab wrk you can use w/o any sides.. I 've been on for 10yrs bro when you use correctly you will be fine. And if your so concerned about this then don't bother taking AAS. To each there own and I just say to any one do research know AAS are a life decision and shouldn't be taken lightly. Be under a physicians care , and the pros of AAS outweigh the cons. As long as taken correctly , with that Tren,Winn dbol are not recommended and are very hard on your organs. AAS has not killed any one and I'll leave it at that.

Again, your speaking like someone who really wants to believe that what they are doing isn't potentially harmful. You have to be oblivious, after all the deaths and health problems, to think taking aas for 10 years is ok. Please don't spread this utter bs because young kids on here will actually listen to your theories.

 

[Chizzled77]

Too much of anything isnt good .....too much water can get you sick too. Same goes for aas.

 

[maxwell0612]

Maybe if you Stop talking bull Shit out of your mouth and let it come out of your ass instead bc you make no sense. I'm not all over the place you and a few others want to state erroneous facts with out any backing. I STATED IN FIRST POST UNDER SUPERVISION OF PHYSICIAN AND NOT TO JUST START TAKING WITHOUT PROPER RESEARCH AND DOC APPROVAL..LAB WORK. And any one new on here should research and research all Medical articles on AAS . Teens and college kids should refrain from taking I said that . So AAS do not kill.

Answer me this, all the bbs having heart attacks in their 50's (mike mateazzo) has nothing to do with bb drugs?

 

[maxwell0612]

Answer me this, all the bbs having heart attacks in their 50's (mike mateazzo) has nothing to do with bb drugs? Also, of course there are pros who are ok, but that doesn't mean they are going to live a long healthy life.

 

[maxwell0612]

One last thing. I grew up with bb, i loved bb like nothing else and at one point becoming a pro was my only goal. I'm not anti aas, gh, etc at all. I'm anti competitive bb because i know that competitive bb makes responsible aas use impossible.

 

[libigboy]

One last thing. I grew up with bb, i loved bb like nothing else and at one point becoming a pro was my only goal. I'm not anti aas, gh, etc at all. I'm anti competitive bb because i know that competitive bb makes responsible aas use impossible.

Maxwell I think your so strongly opinionated about this topic because you have had personal friends get sick and have personally witnessed the decline in health. And I have as well. We grew up around a lot of PROS and national competitors and over time have seen them get sick. The guys on stage people see an average person couldn't even mentally comprehend the amount of gear they do. Pre contest blood transfusions in there hotel rooms, 20 iu's of GH 7 days a week, 10 different compounds and diuretics. All that puts strain on the body. Yes AAS doesn't kill at MODERATION. But these guys don't know what moderation is.

 

[Balkan_x]

Of course it's not a blanket thing. Some do have families and normal lives but most do not. I went though girlfriends like crazy because they would get fed up with me. Competitive bb at a high level makes the bb totally self centered. And I do believe that most high level bbs, myself includ3d, have an addiction to bb drugs and the lifestyle in general. I mean when someone starts selling drugs, risking prison time (something most bb end up doind), or doing things for queers for drug money it's no different than the cracks addict giving blow jobs for crack. I believe that 90% of pro and national level bbs have some sort of mental problem that bb feeds off of. When I was competing I would do anything, without any regard to the consequences, if it would give me an edge. Calling competitive bb a sport is a joke, it's a drug toleratio mm contest. May as well have a contest where you see who can shoot the most heroin without passing out. I know that is extreme but after living the bb life (I places top 5 in npc national contests 5 times) this is how I feel about it. I'm 42 now and wisdom does come with age. If I can stop a young guy from pursuing competitive bb I'm going to speak the truth. Sorry if someone doesn't like it.

Great fucking thread - appreciate the honesty. It's rare.

 

[Anofuctus]

Maybe it's best to go the "Natural Bodybuilding" route to avoid an early death from AAS usage. Yet, I'd say a good majority sneak something in a few weeks to a couple of months or more before a contest then they "dry out" and go in "natural".

 

[getbig1989]

One last thing. I grew up with bb, i loved bb like nothing else and at one point becoming a pro was my only goal. I'm not anti aas, gh, etc at all. I'm anti competitive bb because i know that competitive bb makes responsible aas use impossible.

Hat made no sense at all!!!

 

[RickRock]

Maybe it's best to go the "Natural Bodybuilding" route to avoid an early death from AAS usage. Yet, I'd say a good majority sneak something in a few weeks to a couple of months or more before a contest then they "dry out" and go in "natural".

Unfortunately a majority of competitive "natural" bodybuilders are not natural at all, so you still run into the drug dilemma regardless. They may be clean at a show because of them testing top 5, but the offseason is free reign for them to do as they please

 

[EER]

Its best to reach a natty max or close to it before ever pinning...period

 

[RickRock]

Its best to reach a natty max or close to it before ever pinning...period

Agreed 100%. I didn't start my first injection until 37. My very first cycle period (prohormone) was a year earlier at 36. I'm now 40 so I've only been pinning about 3 years

 

[maxwell0612]

What doesn't make sense (get big)? I believe that a as and other drugs can be used responsibly, there still may be come cations but they are less likely. Competitive bb however reward the bb willing to do crazy things to make it. That is not healthy and national level bbs are desperate in most cases which leads to poor decisions. I'm not saying you but the majority. It's very, very hard to work a normal 9-5 and prepare correctly. That's what against. If it was up to me competitive bb would be eliminated.

 

[getbig1989]

What doesn't make sense (get big)? I believe that a as and other drugs can be used responsibly, there still may be come cations but they are less likely. Competitive bb however reward the bb willing to do crazy things to make it. That is not healthy and national level bbs are desperate in most cases which leads to poor decisions. I'm not saying you but the majority. It's very, very hard to work a normal 9-5 and prepare correctly. That's what against. If it was up to me competitive bb would be eliminated.

There are ppl I know that run just as much as bb do that DONT COMPETE so what's that called?

 

[Anofuctus]

There are ppl I know that run just as much as bb do that DONT COMPETE so what's that called?

Simply put, USING!!!

 

[getbig1989]

Simply put, USING!!!

Omg lol... No really??? He stated that he didn't like bb but aas are fine back and forth back and forth what is it you don't like max is it the competing or the aas?

 

[getbig1989]

I started my first cycle at 18-19 and 24 now I get bloods and the whole works

 

[maxwell0612]

Using dangerous amount of drugs competing is stupid but it's more stupid if you don't compete. When I was 24 I would be talking just like you. Wait till your 40 or 50 and your old friends are getting sick. Not against aas, gh use at all. I am against competitive bb because I makes the competitors do things they would never do if it wasn't for the contest.and everyone makes money off of it all except the bb. 98% of national level bbs pay for everything. And doing a national level contest right is so expensive.

 

[musclefreak954]

I started my first cycle at 18-19 and 24 now I get bloods and the whole works

Big dog, I started too at 24 now 33 been under DRs care , . No AAS has killed anyone. Period !!!! Again the pros back in the 80-90's have passed bc of pre-existing medical conditions. And you don't know there past medical history to determine that AAS had anything to do with there deaths, I go to calls on a weekly basis for heart attacks women and men all diff ages and never used AAS some people are more predisposed to an MI. We had a guy 38 pretty healthy no AAS use was running and he had chest pains we were called and he was having an active MI. We saved him. Again he was not a user.I can go on and on there are no related deaths to AAS. Look at Frank Columbu, Lou Ferrigno and I can name more that are older now and no health complications.. STEROID S do not cause you to die!! Question do you eat burgers and fries ? So we should say that hamburger s and fries kill people bc they contributed to high cholesterol , CHD. Etc right??? AAS are fine to use and the user needs to be aware of his or her regiment

 

[maxwell0612]

Big dog, I started too at 24 now 33 been under DRs care , I'm in the medical field myself, these guys make no sense bro ,but yet say they use and are on here acting like there so against it . No AAS has killed anyone. Period !!!! Again the pros back in the 80-90's have passed bc of pre-existing medical conditions. And you don't know there past medical history to determine that AAS had anything to do with there deaths. Question do you eat burgers and fries ? So we should say that hamburger s and fries kill people bc they contributed to high cholesterol , CHD. Etc right??? AAS are fine to use and the user needs to be aware of his or her regiment

I'm just amazed that so any of you are buying this preexisting condition crap. Are baseball, football, basketball, ect. Players dropping dead from "preexisting conditions". I know that you guys want to believe this bs because it makes you feel better about using aas. But, you're being so immature. I don't care what you do, I'm on test and deca right now. But don't spew this bs. You're taking a very real chance, as I am. At least step up and admit it.