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So im just going to chime in from my personal experience.
There are some studies that suggest that clenbuteral, through its fat burning properties, can help aid in raising testosterone levels.
Having said that I took it for 2 weeks max 60mcg a day and I felt miserable. Sweating, rapid heart rate, fatigue, cramping, jittery, weak, etc.
I wouldnt touch that shit personally. Cardarine or SR9009 or even an ECA stack are far better IMO.
i literally turn down paying clients to advise them on clen use if that tells you anything
Genixcon
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Yea I actually believe it’s on the anabolic side of sparing as to say it’s actually helping in muscle growth. That being said it sucks to run. It’s like that moment when you think you’ve had to many redbulls but all day for two weeks.
Is it suppressive then?
Genixcon
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To what? Testosterone? Negative
Yea dude it was way too much for me even at low doses. I have no clue how people run 100+mcg a day for weeks on end.
Genixcon
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Yea clen is MOFO
https://www.evolutionary.org/clenbuterol-steroids-side-effects
No it is not suppressive as Genixcon said but again it can wreak havoc on your heart. My thing is if the risk was worth the reward then just like steroids have at it I just didnt really see any benefits to clen over an ECA stack to be honest.
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Hahaha no I hear you man like all the stuff we take has risks to it especially steroids. I again just didnt see the benefits of it other than I felt like ass, was sweating like crazy, couldnt sleep. Shit with those side effects id rather run Tren and actually get results.
I'm gonna try it, very low dose to start, might call it quits in a day if I don't like it.
Genixcon
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I don’t think the statement that clen has nothing to do with building muscle is a little obtuse. There is a affinity between the two. Studies show that it’s a down pathway effect but something is happening.
I started using Clen back in the 90's before everyone and their mother started using it. I used to get it in Mexico. It increases strength, burns fat by increasing body temperature but it has no anabolic effect on the body.
Genixcon
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Once again studies have suggested otherwise. I will be happy to provide links if you are against google searching for yourself. I just don’t want the forum to be spreading disinformation.
Genixcon
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Once again, it’s a down pathway effect. Something is happening and it is anabolic.
yes there are studies that show that. but that does not mean it causes muscle growth. that word anabolic is misleading in this case, plus those studies are not going to translate to bodybuilding purposes.
it even says in the conclusion "However, a long duration of action appears to be required to induce the anabolic effects of beta 2-agonists."
i hope someone doesn't read this and have the idea to run it for months, it will do a number on their heart
it even says in the conclusion "However, a long duration of action appears to be required to induce the anabolic effects of beta 2-agonists."
i hope someone doesn't read this and have the idea to run it for months, it will do a number on their heart
Genixcon
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That’s why I wasn’t crazy about posting it. I always worry that someone will look at this and think it’s a green light to run clen.
I’m not condoning clen or the use of clen but it does have some anabolic pathways to it.
Genixcon
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Right, well in that stance, mobster is right. Most people would agree that the sides of clen are to much.
