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Hey team,
I wanted to share my experience as I seem to convert testosterone to estrogen a lot more than an average person.
I’ve been on self-prescribed TRT for a few years now and I got on it because my natural test levels were low and I had low T symptoms, I initially tried to get prescribed through an endocrinologist but he basically told me to fuck off and threatened me (as expected in Australia
).
To note, I am someone who consistently gets bloodwork done at least once a year (complete panel, liver kidneys hormones etc.).
For the first time ever, I decided to get specifically LCMS testing done on my oestradiol, reason for this is because I am currently on 130 mg of test e per week, administered every 3 days, and I can not go any higher than that no matter what. I’ve had immunoessay e2 testing done before but it seemed all over the shop and unreliable after having done research.
I want to do a cycle in the future however, I literally have ran testosterone at 140 mg before and gotten itchy nips (only 10 mg more than my usual dose).
My LCMS testing explains this a lot as on the 130 mg dose, it came back to be 36.8 pg/mL.
I watch a lot of the evo podcasts with steve and mobster and I’ve heard steve say he doesn’t like E2 above 35 pg/mL, I feel great with 0 high estrogen symptoms at 36.8 pg/mL so this very slightly elevated level isn’t a concern to me even though I know its not super ideal.
What is a concern is what do I do in the future when I want to have a proper small blast haha
I’ve done trt + lgd and that was great but I have a huge interest in hormones and would love to at least try a few more things within decent safety levels.
I don’t want to run an aromatase inhibitor because my estrogen is quite high on a fairly low/modest dose of testosterone, meaning, it would be quite hard for me to dial in a proper aromatase inhibitor dose as what works for the average fella is probably going to be too much for me and this will take a lot of adjustment to get the right dose.
Ideally I would be running trt as I do at 130 mg and then throw in 300-400 mg of primo in there yet primo at this point doesn’t seem to be available (in Australia at least), and seems like it won’t be for years. Primo is androgenic and would be a perfect option for me as all I need is a small increase in androgen:estrogens ratio without any E2 conversion and boom bobs your uncle.
The other androgenic option I could run is masteron but it basically gives no muscle gains and shreds your hair for not much benefit, I don’t need to dry out my muscles either. (Winnie is same as this but arguable worse gains and hairloss)
In terms of roids, my only realistic option to absolutely not shred hair is primo, EQ and sarms such as lgd. Could possibly use nandrolone but its a risky one as I seem to be prone to estrogenic side effects which nandrolone can exacerbate.
I would love to trial EQ in the future, I’ve watched the podcast episodes on it and it seems like such an interesting steroid, however there is a test to EQ ratio people run of usually 2:1 ish. That means i would be running 65mg of EQ which is gonna do fuck all really.
I am wondering if I am someone who basically has to run an AI or chose hair shredding androgens to ever be able to blast?
I am slightly prone to hairloss, not majorly, so primo doesn’t concern me but masteron for example definitely would be concerning.
Thoughts on this guys? And to those wondering, I am around 20% body fat right now with a quite clean diet, I definitely understand getting shredded will lower my E2 but being real, I am probably always gonna have some estrogen problems as I seem to be fairly prone. And yes I am anyways making an attempt to get shredded and have been before.
Thoughts? Suggestions, just looking for opinions and a debate really.
Thanks for reading
I wanted to share my experience as I seem to convert testosterone to estrogen a lot more than an average person.
I’ve been on self-prescribed TRT for a few years now and I got on it because my natural test levels were low and I had low T symptoms, I initially tried to get prescribed through an endocrinologist but he basically told me to fuck off and threatened me (as expected in Australia
).To note, I am someone who consistently gets bloodwork done at least once a year (complete panel, liver kidneys hormones etc.).
For the first time ever, I decided to get specifically LCMS testing done on my oestradiol, reason for this is because I am currently on 130 mg of test e per week, administered every 3 days, and I can not go any higher than that no matter what. I’ve had immunoessay e2 testing done before but it seemed all over the shop and unreliable after having done research.
I want to do a cycle in the future however, I literally have ran testosterone at 140 mg before and gotten itchy nips (only 10 mg more than my usual dose).
My LCMS testing explains this a lot as on the 130 mg dose, it came back to be 36.8 pg/mL.
I watch a lot of the evo podcasts with steve and mobster and I’ve heard steve say he doesn’t like E2 above 35 pg/mL, I feel great with 0 high estrogen symptoms at 36.8 pg/mL so this very slightly elevated level isn’t a concern to me even though I know its not super ideal.
What is a concern is what do I do in the future when I want to have a proper small blast haha
I’ve done trt + lgd and that was great but I have a huge interest in hormones and would love to at least try a few more things within decent safety levels.
I don’t want to run an aromatase inhibitor because my estrogen is quite high on a fairly low/modest dose of testosterone, meaning, it would be quite hard for me to dial in a proper aromatase inhibitor dose as what works for the average fella is probably going to be too much for me and this will take a lot of adjustment to get the right dose.
Ideally I would be running trt as I do at 130 mg and then throw in 300-400 mg of primo in there yet primo at this point doesn’t seem to be available (in Australia at least), and seems like it won’t be for years. Primo is androgenic and would be a perfect option for me as all I need is a small increase in androgen:estrogens ratio without any E2 conversion and boom bobs your uncle.
The other androgenic option I could run is masteron but it basically gives no muscle gains and shreds your hair for not much benefit, I don’t need to dry out my muscles either. (Winnie is same as this but arguable worse gains and hairloss)
In terms of roids, my only realistic option to absolutely not shred hair is primo, EQ and sarms such as lgd. Could possibly use nandrolone but its a risky one as I seem to be prone to estrogenic side effects which nandrolone can exacerbate.
I would love to trial EQ in the future, I’ve watched the podcast episodes on it and it seems like such an interesting steroid, however there is a test to EQ ratio people run of usually 2:1 ish. That means i would be running 65mg of EQ which is gonna do fuck all really.
I am wondering if I am someone who basically has to run an AI or chose hair shredding androgens to ever be able to blast?
I am slightly prone to hairloss, not majorly, so primo doesn’t concern me but masteron for example definitely would be concerning.
Thoughts on this guys? And to those wondering, I am around 20% body fat right now with a quite clean diet, I definitely understand getting shredded will lower my E2 but being real, I am probably always gonna have some estrogen problems as I seem to be fairly prone. And yes I am anyways making an attempt to get shredded and have been before.
Thoughts? Suggestions, just looking for opinions and a debate really.
Thanks for reading
