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First Thread and First actual cycle?

Jagon

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Hey Evo community.
I have some questions that i've researched and looked at other posts. Just wanting some feedback, good or bad, and any tips for being new. Also let me know if I need to post other stuff for information.
New here and new to enhancing in general, but some background is I lost over 115 pounds 5-6 years back once I started eating right and hitting the gym more and more. Have not stopped hitting the gym.

Hitting a "first" cycling coming up in a few weeks once my touchdown happens from US Pharmacies. I'm saying it's my first because i'm actually trying to be smart about it and not just 'wing it'.
First time I ever took Oxandrolone i didn't really take it consistently and I didn't watch my eating at all.

Started Trt this year at 150mg a week. Loving it. Feels great. "Talked" the clinic into giving some Oxandrolone for an injury. (they just handed it out). WAY OVERPRICED. Still paid it.
Loved it too, just wasn't paying attention to calories and nutrition or blood. Although each time I checked blood it was fine. Just high on the red blood count, everything else was normal levels (Minus Test/Est of course). However, I was super consistent in the gym and honestly, i know it's such a small enhancement compared to others, but I loved the feeling Oxandrolone gave me in the gym. Idk if it was placebo in thinking "O it's an enhancement, i'm strong" or it actually boosted me but I went from struggling to hit 185 bench for 1RM to repping 225 as the middle set within 2-3 months. Plus other area of gains.

Goal this time is to shred down to 200 pounds in a span of 8 - 10 weeks while keeping as much muscle mass and strength I can. I weight 230 right now. Roughly 25-30% body fat right now. No scan, just assuming based on doctor visits and their estimations.

6ft 2in tall.

Gym sessions last around 1 hour to 2 hours, depending on how much time I have.


2200-2500 Calories hitting at least 200g of protein. Might be a little low? but short timing plus I sit most of the day.


Gym: 3-5 times a week. At least hit the first 3 days. Day 4 and 5 are not consistent due to work.
Day 1: Push
Day 2: Pull
Day 3: Legs

Day 4: Arms
Day 5: Fun stuff like trying to overload abs and smaller muscles that are normally missed. Usually cardio heavy day as well. (Meaning i try to run a 5k or something like that)

At least indoor biking 5 times a week for 30 minutes.

Injections will have been taken for about 2-3 weeks before Oxandrolone.

Injections:
  • Reta - 2mg a week broken up into two pins. Week 4 will swap higher dosage if needed. Might need to keep pinning past 8 weeks
  • Ipa/Cjc - 250mcgs a week. 5 days on 2 off. First time pinning CJC and woah it shocked me for a minute.
  • Test C- Usually coast with 150mg (Trt). Bumping to 250mg a week.
  • HCG - .2 honestly not sure why i'm taking this as I don't need anymore kids nor does the wife.
Oral:
  • Var - 10mg twice daily. I was unsure of doing 20-25mg so thought i'd stick with a small dosage and move onto bigger ones after this cycle

If this goes well and blood work stays within margins, I'd be looking at doing an 'actual cycle' come spring next year. Or maybe for the winter this year.
 
Just blurred out some tattoos for now. The more comfortable I get the more i'll just post unblurred. Of course cropping out face. So probably around 25% body fat, judging from my chest. Doctor said it's just fat on my chest, had him check for gyno already. I'm not sucking in stomach. I'm trying to flex my arms, but small biceps. I have fat, but I can still see some gains. Not a lot, obviously, hence the cutting cycle.

What else do i need to post?
 

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Looks like a solid plan. Anavar won’t really do a ton at that BF% I think you’re better off cutting 8 weeks and then adding it. Especially since it’s not too smart to go longer than 6 weeks on Var.

you need to be patient and understand that goal #1 is get to sub 12% BF. Then start to think about running a real cycle like -Test with var at the end
 
Hey Evo community.
I have some questions that i've researched and looked at other posts. Just wanting some feedback, good or bad, and any tips for being new. Also let me know if I need to post other stuff for information.
New here and new to enhancing in general, but some background is I lost over 115 pounds 5-6 years back once I started eating right and hitting the gym more and more. Have not stopped hitting the gym.

Hitting a "first" cycling coming up in a few weeks once my touchdown happens from US Pharmacies. I'm saying it's my first because i'm actually trying to be smart about it and not just 'wing it'.
First time I ever took Oxandrolone i didn't really take it consistently and I didn't watch my eating at all.

Started Trt this year at 150mg a week. Loving it. Feels great. "Talked" the clinic into giving some Oxandrolone for an injury. (they just handed it out). WAY OVERPRICED. Still paid it.
Loved it too, just wasn't paying attention to calories and nutrition or blood. Although each time I checked blood it was fine. Just high on the red blood count, everything else was normal levels (Minus Test/Est of course). However, I was super consistent in the gym and honestly, i know it's such a small enhancement compared to others, but I loved the feeling Oxandrolone gave me in the gym. Idk if it was placebo in thinking "O it's an enhancement, i'm strong" or it actually boosted me but I went from struggling to hit 185 bench for 1RM to repping 225 as the middle set within 2-3 months. Plus other area of gains.

Goal this time is to shred down to 200 pounds in a span of 8 - 10 weeks while keeping as much muscle mass and strength I can. I weight 230 right now. Roughly 25-30% body fat right now. No scan, just assuming based on doctor visits and their estimations.

6ft 2in tall.

Gym sessions last around 1 hour to 2 hours, depending on how much time I have.


2200-2500 Calories hitting at least 200g of protein. Might be a little low? but short timing plus I sit most of the day.


Gym: 3-5 times a week. At least hit the first 3 days. Day 4 and 5 are not consistent due to work.
Day 1: Push
Day 2: Pull
Day 3: Legs

Day 4: Arms
Day 5: Fun stuff like trying to overload abs and smaller muscles that are normally missed. Usually cardio heavy day as well. (Meaning i try to run a 5k or something like that)

At least indoor biking 5 times a week for 30 minutes.

Injections will have been taken for about 2-3 weeks before Oxandrolone.

Injections:
  • Reta - 2mg a week broken up into two pins. Week 4 will swap higher dosage if needed. Might need to keep pinning past 8 weeks
  • Ipa/Cjc - 250mcgs a week. 5 days on 2 off. First time pinning CJC and woah it shocked me for a minute.
  • Test C- Usually coast with 150mg (Trt). Bumping to 250mg a week.
  • HCG - .2 honestly not sure why i'm taking this as I don't need anymore kids nor does the wife.
Oral:
  • Var - 10mg twice daily. I was unsure of doing 20-25mg so thought i'd stick with a small dosage and move onto bigger ones after this cycle

If this goes well and blood work stays within margins, I'd be looking at doing an 'actual cycle' come spring next year. Or maybe for the winter this year.

Mid 30s^ btw

Just blurred out some tattoos for now. The more comfortable I get the more i'll just post unblurred. Of course cropping out face. So probably around 25% body fat, judging from my chest. Doctor said it's just fat on my chest, had him check for gyno already. I'm not sucking in stomach. I'm trying to flex my arms, but small biceps. I have fat, but I can still see some gains. Not a lot, obviously, hence the cutting cycle.

What else do i need to post?
welcome to the EVO family :D @Jagon you have a good base, thanks for sharing the pics.
Get a full current cycle log up now. Post daily weight, calories and macros, training, cardio, sleep, BP, exact doses and pin days, side effects, weekly pics and bloodwork so the EVO family can see what is actually happening and help you cut without guessing. There isn't much we can help you with before you post a full log, 15min of your time to start :D

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Looks like a solid plan. Anavar won’t really do a ton at that BF% I think you’re better off cutting 8 weeks and then adding it. Especially since it’s not too smart to go longer than 6 weeks on Var.

you need to be patient and understand that goal #1 is get to sub 12% BF. Then start to think about running a real cycle like -Test with var at the end
I agree with @Kingofspades712
its important you lean out first then use the gear to get the most out of it
 
Just blurred out some tattoos for now. The more comfortable I get the more i'll just post unblurred. Of course cropping out face. So probably around 25% body fat, judging from my chest. Doctor said it's just fat on my chest, had him check for gyno already. I'm not sucking in stomach. I'm trying to flex my arms, but small biceps. I have fat, but I can still see some gains. Not a lot, obviously, hence the cutting cycle.

What else do i need to post?
That's okay man. You can blur out whatever you want. We just need to get a general sense of what you look like. I don't think you're 25% body fat, maybe closer to 20%.
 
That's actually a decent plan tbh. Hit it hard with reta and peppers then add in the var.. I might just do that. Thank you.
Make sure you dial in your diet because that's going to be 100% necessary. So many people take RETA and get no results because their diet sucks.
 
Hey Evo community.
I have some questions that i've researched and looked at other posts. Just wanting some feedback, good or bad, and any tips for being new. Also let me know if I need to post other stuff for information.
New here and new to enhancing in general, but some background is I lost over 115 pounds 5-6 years back once I started eating right and hitting the gym more and more. Have not stopped hitting the gym.

Hitting a "first" cycling coming up in a few weeks once my touchdown happens from US Pharmacies. I'm saying it's my first because i'm actually trying to be smart about it and not just 'wing it'.
First time I ever took Oxandrolone i didn't really take it consistently and I didn't watch my eating at all.

Started Trt this year at 150mg a week. Loving it. Feels great. "Talked" the clinic into giving some Oxandrolone for an injury. (they just handed it out). WAY OVERPRICED. Still paid it.
Loved it too, just wasn't paying attention to calories and nutrition or blood. Although each time I checked blood it was fine. Just high on the red blood count, everything else was normal levels (Minus Test/Est of course). However, I was super consistent in the gym and honestly, i know it's such a small enhancement compared to others, but I loved the feeling Oxandrolone gave me in the gym. Idk if it was placebo in thinking "O it's an enhancement, i'm strong" or it actually boosted me but I went from struggling to hit 185 bench for 1RM to repping 225 as the middle set within 2-3 months. Plus other area of gains.

Goal this time is to shred down to 200 pounds in a span of 8 - 10 weeks while keeping as much muscle mass and strength I can. I weight 230 right now. Roughly 25-30% body fat right now. No scan, just assuming based on doctor visits and their estimations.

6ft 2in tall.

Gym sessions last around 1 hour to 2 hours, depending on how much time I have.


2200-2500 Calories hitting at least 200g of protein. Might be a little low? but short timing plus I sit most of the day.


Gym: 3-5 times a week. At least hit the first 3 days. Day 4 and 5 are not consistent due to work.
Day 1: Push
Day 2: Pull
Day 3: Legs

Day 4: Arms
Day 5: Fun stuff like trying to overload abs and smaller muscles that are normally missed. Usually cardio heavy day as well. (Meaning i try to run a 5k or something like that)

At least indoor biking 5 times a week for 30 minutes.

Injections will have been taken for about 2-3 weeks before Oxandrolone.

Injections:
  • Reta - 2mg a week broken up into two pins. Week 4 will swap higher dosage if needed. Might need to keep pinning past 8 weeks
  • Ipa/Cjc - 250mcgs a week. 5 days on 2 off. First time pinning CJC and woah it shocked me for a minute.
  • Test C- Usually coast with 150mg (Trt). Bumping to 250mg a week.
  • HCG - .2 honestly not sure why i'm taking this as I don't need anymore kids nor does the wife.
Oral:
  • Var - 10mg twice daily. I was unsure of doing 20-25mg so thought i'd stick with a small dosage and move onto bigger ones after this cycle

If this goes well and blood work stays within margins, I'd be looking at doing an 'actual cycle' come spring next year. Or maybe for the winter this year.
@Jagon Bros, I like your injection layout strategy. And I agree with you HCG. No need to run it unless you want big balls. It doesn't do nothing else.
 
Make sure you dial in your diet because that's going to be 100% necessary. So many people take RETA and get no results because their diet sucks.
Ya! I had a buddy of mine jump on reta and he told me "It did nothing but make me sick", then I saw he would just continuously eat garbage. I mean i don't eat really clean, obviously, but still. I was confused what he thought Reta did. So I appreciate the heads up. I need to get a log up and start posting what I eat.
 
def get a log up! that will be very important to dial in your diet!
Ya! I had a buddy of mine jump on reta and he told me "It did nothing but make me sick", then I saw he would just continuously eat garbage. I mean i don't eat really clean, obviously, but still. I was confused what he thought Reta did. So I appreciate the heads up. I need to get a log up and start posting what I eat.
 
Ya! I had a buddy of mine jump on reta and he told me "It did nothing but make me sick", then I saw he would just continuously eat garbage. I mean i don't eat really clean, obviously, but still. I was confused what he thought Reta did. So I appreciate the heads up. I need to get a log up and start posting what I eat.
yeah you can't eat shit cause of the slow digestion
 
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