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cavi

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Did a lot of research on insulin, want to know how to cycle with that. It s ONLY INFORMATIVE, i don't want to use insuline. So just as information i want to know


-how to use it
-how and where inject it
-when inject it
-what are the results (gains)
-where can you buy it
-how much does it cost
-wich are the sides
-how to prevent sides
-what dose for a starter
-what to eat while using it
-can be used with anabolics
-wich is the best brand and where can be found
-how much costs 2 months cycle including syringe and product


Thank you, as just said, it s only an informative question. Have a good time.
 
Hey Bro, I read this article to prepare for my next cycle where I'll be using insulin and i found it very informative.
You can't play around with insulin, you could end up in a coma or dead..
Be careful because you make any decisions in the future...
 
sides? death
side effects? hypoglycemia and possible death
cost? probably $40 at local pharmacy depends
benefits? it does help you gain mass but fat and muscle
alternative? n2slin
 
I've used insulin twice... did not get benefits out of it.. wasn't worth the headache of having to stress over getting in my dex.

I would inject about 4iu's after my workout and then slam down a shake with dex. then I would eat a protein meal.

some dudes blow up on the stuff though. if you are having trouble bulking try n2slin as gearhead mentioned.. same concept but far safer
 
cavi said:
Did a lot of research on insulin, want to know how to cycle with that. It s ONLY INFORMATIVE, i don't want to use insuline. So just as information i want to know


-how to use it
-how and where inject it
-when inject it
-what are the results (gains)
-where can you buy it
-how much does it cost
-wich are the sides
-how to prevent sides
-what dose for a starter
-what to eat while using it
-can be used with anabolics
-wich is the best brand and where can be found
-how much costs 2 months cycle including syringe and product


Thank you, as just said, it s only an informative question. Have a good time.
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bro, come on... you don't want that many in depth insulin questions "just to learn how to use it"... one thing i cannot stand nor tolerate is an attempt an an insult at ones intelligence... just ask how to run it and save all the b.s... it will make people a lot more likely to help... you simply know that if you ask how to run it for yourself that 99% of the answers are going to be what you don't want to hear about it possibly killing you and how dangerous it is etc...
 
You btr know exactly what your doing before you even consider using slin bro
 
cavi said:
Did a lot of research on insulin, want to know how to cycle with that. It s ONLY INFORMATIVE, i don't want to use insuline. So just as information i want to know


-how to use it
-how and where inject it
-when inject it
-what are the results (gains)
-where can you buy it
-how much does it cost
-wich are the sides
-how to prevent sides
-what dose for a starter
-what to eat while using it
-can be used with anabolics
-wich is the best brand and where can be found
-how much costs 2 months cycle including syringe and product


Thank you, as just said, it s only an informative question. Have a good time.
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if you are truly ready for slin, you would be able to give a full paragraph of info on each one of these questions.

spend 6 months learning so you dont die. Im pretty slin knowledable and have had a few bad reactions and will never touch even 5iu again.



Ive been lifting 15yrs, aas for 6-7 & still think slin is for guys who step on stage. otherwise leave it alone.
 
Didn't you just say you did a lot of research on this? Sounds like you know how to spell it, but what else did you learn? SOrry im being a dick, but this is more like a whole article you're asking for. It's impossible to answer these questions because there's no cookie cutter answer especially when it comes to diet.
 
stevesmi said:
I've used insulin twice... did not get benefits out of it.. wasn't worth the headache of having to stress over getting in my dex.

I would inject about 4iu's after my workout and then slam down a shake with dex. then I would eat a protein meal.

some dudes blow up on the stuff though. if you are having trouble bulking try n2slin as gearhead mentioned.. same concept but far safer
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you didn't use enough sounds like. I use 8-10 every time. TOday i did only 5 because i'm cutting and am low carbing it lately.
 
In my opinion, unless you are a professional competitive bodybuilder, you should stay far away from insulin. Even if you dose it correctly without killing yourself, some people can actually make themselves diabetic by using it. Not worth the risk for the small reward.
 
dylangemelli said:
bro, come on... you don't want that many in depth insulin questions "just to learn how to use it"... one thing i cannot stand nor tolerate is an attempt an an insult at ones intelligence... just ask how to run it and save all the b.s... it will make people a lot more likely to help... you simply know that if you ask how to run it for yourself that 99% of the answers are going to be what you don't want to hear about it possibly killing you and how dangerous it is etc...
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LMFAO!!! That's like my bottles in my cabinet right now that say for "research only" Honestly, Im doing a study on my rats! Get the fuck outta here
 
gymrat827 said:
if you are truly ready for slin, you would be able to give a full paragraph of info on each one of these questions.

spend 6 months learning so you dont die. Im pretty slin knowledable and have had a few bad reactions and will never touch even 5iu again.



Ive been lifting 15yrs, aas for 6-7 & still think slin is for guys who step on stage. otherwise leave it alone.
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Agreed. This is something you should no inside and out if your even considering using it.
 
25express said:
cutting and low carbs???...do not belong in the same sentence with insulin..sorry, just not how it works.
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Now I don't recommend anyone doing this especially if not experienced, but it's very simple. If you're on low carb you use less slin. It's no different whatsoever from using it In a bulk it's just on a smaller scale.


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If I eat 20-30g of carbs a meal when cutting then I only take about 4-5 iu. That way you have enough insulin to get optimum anabolic effect with your protein without carbing up TOO much and not leaving any extra glucose in the blood to be stored.


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Especially effective when utilizing intermittent fasting the "lean gains" method. Or in other words fasting from night until afternoon the next day and then utilizing the slin for your food binging window.


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technically i'd call that a lean bulk, but you're still cutting the first half of the day and then utilizing the slin and slin sensitivity in the last half of the day.
 
Don't forget insulin comes in many different types, i.e. rapid (lispro), intermediate (NPH), etc.), each with their own caveats, including time of onset, peak, and duration. If you mess up the dosing, you can easily go into hypoglycemia while you're sleeping and be unaware of it, then go into a hypoglycemic coma that will kill you.
 
Ive done two cycles on it and unless your set on doing it im not gonna sit here and elaborate every part of where, when, how, and who should be doing it cause i think nobody should. It's nothing to fuck with but... If your gonna do something stupid be smart about it. Get a meter at walmart for 30$. Start with Humilin R which is slow acting so you can monitor you BS as it onsets. It takes 35mins before it starts and 55-65mins for all 10 iu's to reach the blood stream. This is DIFFERENT for everyone! If your serious about it let me know. As much as I wanna say no I dont want you killing yourself. Now as far as results go...its different for everyone but I loved it. Gained fat but plenty of muscle. Youll lose alot after but its up to you to decide whats being kept and not. 18lbs in 23 days.
 
cavi said:
Did a lot of research on insulin, want to know how to cycle with that. It s ONLY INFORMATIVE, i don't want to use insuline. So just as information i want to know


-how to use it
-how and where inject it
-when inject it
-what are the results (gains)
-where can you buy it
-how much does it cost
-wich are the sides
-how to prevent sides
-what dose for a starter
-what to eat while using it
-can be used with anabolics
-wich is the best brand and where can be found
-how much costs 2 months cycle including syringe and product


Thank you, as just said, it s only an informative question. Have a good time.
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LOL- you claiming you did research - you didn't do shit...

there are so many guides on how to use slin
 
dear dude,
i am sorry for reply like this but i was reading and i saw your post . 4 IU insulin is nothing my first cycle was for 6 weeks 21IU a day after workout plus 3 IU from growth plus test .
i take pro gainer 3 scoop plus 2 banana in case i feel little dizzy . and the result was okay but i found my body fat increase by 2% more .
i wish to do it twice per day like professional but i scared from getting diabetes .so i will take one month off and repeat .
 
In my humble old man opinion insulin is the very last thing you should use to gain a competitive edge in the upper echelons of bodybuilding. And then even at this point I still would believe that other drugs, supplementation, nutrition and training to illicit more improvements. Then at this point the question must be raised of how truly effective is it for everyone, you need to be absolutely on point with your nutrition timing and partitioning in order to maximise the beneficial aspects and minimize negative aspects. On balance unless you're under the supervision of a Sports doctor such as Dr Rand Mclain or a truly knowledge 'guru' such as Ameen Alai you are going to be ability to optimise the use of this Drug. Plus if you ask a lot of people within the industry who are actually in the know you'll find the top guys are moving away from using Insulin of any kind at its only try hard National's guys who are still pushing this stuff. The only reason to use it again, if you're at the top of your game, is to avoid the unnecessary conitations that go with GH use, and even then the insulin amount is small and not predominatly for muscle growth.
 
dear bro ,
i am pass 22 years in this game and i was natural in the beginning but i found that i need to challenge my body .and there is always a risk but people who get side effects
are the one who doest do enough search ,and believe me you don't need to be a bro to reach something you like i believe that you will never know what after 100 miles from you
unless you walk that 100 miles some time you have to try yourself and trust me if you need the truth you will not get it from here ,from people who afraid to try .

at the end of the day its what you want but for me and a lot of people .i will do what ever it takes to know and reach my goal even i put myself in risk .sorry again
 
I would use the fastest insulin so go with novarapid flex pen , fastest insulin easy to use just like a dial up hgh pen .
Were to find them get a diabetic mate.. lol they get them cheap as chips
yes you can use anabolics with them just take your course as per normal and run the below with it .

You measure the dosage in iu's, start with this formula, 1 iu equals 20grams of carbs , so after training have ur post protien shake with sum fast acting carbs like for example "dextrose" if u have put in 100grams of dextrose in take 5 iu , to play it safe u can minus 1 iu from your calculations until u feel comfortable with the dosage make sure u keep carbs close by incase u over dose your self, you will need to eat them to get better ., 20 grams of carbs will also bring you up 3 units on your blood glucose machine.
Some ppl use insulin all day long with there diet doing this when not a diabetic all the time is a sure way to become a type 1 diabetic ,as your pancrease will stop its natrual production.
I would only use it after my workout with lots of carbs the insulin will act as a taxi and take all the protein and carbs were they need to be for faster recovery and gains.
inject it a inch either side of your belly button in the fat it absorbs the fastest there
Keep to this and you wont Die , good luck
 
^^^ this is not how to use Insulin properly!!! Firstly you can't cookie cutter how much carbs each person should take with each IU this is internet bullshit! Second, why would you dump a shit ton of High GI carbs which would cause a sharp spike in insulin all by itself, you need lower GI carb sources such as Apple source. What you've written is the same crap that circulates the Internet and boards and people use it thinking it's dark magic and the pros secrets and users end up getting fat and this is why.
 
ok so ready everyone elses posts on this thread pick out mine and tell me its crap righto.
Explain to me key board warrior "petercowdell" how do you use insulin for gains?
Firstly ive been a type 1 diabetic for over 20 years and i know how to manipulate my own insulin for gains and ive helped some of my non diabetic mate make some gains also.
This works for us
What i said is proberly the most basic way and safest for a starter who wants to use insulin.
What i have written is straight from my head from trial and era not google
You dump a shit load of carbs and take that much insulin so it will get straight to the muscles you just work , how long does it usally take protien and carbs to reach the muscles??? doing this works faster , your own pancreas cant make insulin this fast dipshit so your feeding them more and faster while they need it, hope that explains it in laymans terms fuckhead!
Low gi source such as apple sauce ??? man ive seen that many diettions, endocrinologist , and the only low gi food u can say is apple sauce RIGHTo!

If you want to know exactly what your carbs do for you get a glucose moniter find out what ur base level is take 50 grams of cabs test your self half hour later see were your at? And the correct does is 1 iu to 20 grams of carbs some ppl can take 1 iu to 30 grams some 1 iu 10 it depends on the person the 1 iu to 20 i think is the safest .i could tell you the formula to get it spot on but it only really works for type 1 diabetics
What makes you a expert buddy im just saying what works for us each to there own but dont go knocking my post when im just trying to help someone out
 
Dude I'm not here to argue I'm here to help and you can't say it's going to help people out of its bad advice. As for apple sauce, I didn't say low GI, I said lower critical difference. As for why I think I'm right and you're not quite right is that one you said it yourself it works for diabetics and second, a member at my gym works with ameen alai for his contest prep so I take what he says about insulin and growth hormone very seriously.
 
I've used insulin once and found that one I don't need to use the stuff because I have no real need to push the envelope when there is so many more facets that I could nail to make improvements, and secondly which you didn't mention at all is regardless of nutrition timing, protocol, peri-workout nutrition. My body wasn't apt for the correct nutrient partioning to ensure the bulk of nutrients was shuttled to the muscle. It's also unnecessary for most folks because unlike what most people like to believe about muscle gain most of the weight from insulin comes from water and increase glycogen stores which all quickly fades away after use
 
If your here to help answere the original thread question like other ppl on this thread are trying to do , i said what i do and what works for me and my friends, so far you just flamed me and called my help shit.
secondly you did say low gi , this is your exact words""""Second, why would you dump a shit ton of High GI carbs which would cause a sharp spike in insulin all by itself, you need lower GI carb sources such as Apple source""""" see that what you typed!
Thirdly ill repeat my self i said this is a basic insulin plan for a novice and in my opinion the safest and i have seen it work but its no magic pill you still got eat , train shit , sleep
And i also dont give a fuck who you know !
I answered all your stupid questions as to why i do this, this way .now answere the original post without googling or sucking ur gym buddy off ?



Did a lot of research on insulin, want to know how to cycle with that. It s ONLY INFORMATIVE, i don't want to use insuline. So just as information i want to know


-how to use it
-how and where inject it
-when inject it
-what are the results (gains)
-where can you buy it
-how much does it cost
-wich are the sides
-how to prevent sides
-what dose for a starter
-what to eat while using it
-can be used with anabolics
-wich is the best brand and where can be found
-how much costs 2 months cycle including syringe and product


Thank you, as just said, it s only an informative question. Have a good time.
 
It may work for some guys, I tried it twice back in the 90's era, I used humlin R, followed Dan Duchine protocol to the letter, and all I got was fat & fatter!
Then I had to diet real hard to get rid of the damn fat, I hate dieting! Never again for me! If it works for you, more power to you.
 
The best advice is not to give any on insulin. This is one subject that you have to do homework and more homework. You have to learn it without asking till you can answer most of your own questions.@petercowdell had some of the most correct knowledge. Insulin is not a one size fits all. Once you have the knowledge the guys with that use it and get productive results will start to talk to ya.
 
wags said:
It may work for some guys, I tried it twice back in the 90's era, I used humlin R, followed Dan Duchine protocol to the letter, and all I got was fat & fatter!
Then I had to diet real hard to get rid of the damn fat, I hate dieting! Never again for me! If it works for you, more power to you.
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you definatly do put on fat u need to have ur diet in check low gi and lots of protien during most meals ,i just plug the post workout with fast acting carbs when i ue the fast acting insulin , ive never read Dan Duchines protocol so cant comments ,
 
Insulin is definatley not one size fits all ,and i never said that!, it depends on what type your taking ,ur diet ,ur training, and how acceptable or resistant you are i agree on this.
What i was talking about was" novarapid flex pen insulin" not lantus not mixtard not humalog not actrapid not protophane, not novamix ,you need different dosages for each one and i was also saying the safest basic way to take it without going all out on monitering your glucuse levels constantly .
And i have seen results doing it the way i mentioned but yes u need to fine tune it for your self.
I also think its the last option to jump on for size and is the most dangerous if you got no idea what you are doing , and yes if you really want to do it that bad make sure you know your shit , i would run juice over insulin anyday for massive gains.
All i posted orignally was the best answeres i could give to the question asked in the thread ,the best way i think the poster would understand.
im a member on many diabetic forums and we talk about this topic alot for diabetics and non diabetics and ive helped alot of ppl on the net and in real life who have just been diognosed to gain greater control and better fitness levels turning a bad thing into somthing better
And after the blow back i also agree best not give advise on insulin , lots of know it all s that dont know it all
 
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