Life Forge Touchdown Pics

[vanlife_gymbum]

Hey cuzzies,

The testosterone and retatrutide for my log provided to me by Life Forge arrived overnight.

So sweet when everything is domestic, no customs to worry about and fast!

The guy from Life Forge saw I lived in a van and said he has another vanlife customer and he gets his packages sent to a free package locker from the supermarket chain Woolworths who have an arrangement with NZ Post and you basically they email you when it arrives and you just go into the supermarket with your ID and they give it to you.

The standard NZ Post tracking works too. I didn't know about this and it solves a few problems I thought I couldn't afford to fix, namely getting a P.O Box.

Everything was boxed up tight and the vials bubble wrapped

He must have saw the posts in my log where I was having a whinge about how I can't type on a phone and need a keyboard, as he has sent me a Bluetooth keyboard for my phone! I'm touched @SaintSoup - that's really thoughful of you.

Thanks very much bro =)

NZNEP, the needle exchange, does not carry these ultra-fine needles needed for retatrutide so thanks for giving me some bro

They do NZ bank transfers and also take crypto if you want.

Their site is https://life-forge.com/ and @SaintSoup here on Evo.

 

[SaintSoup]

Thanks mate, Enjoy!

 

[Dave1288499]

Hey cuzzies,

The testosterone and retatrutide for my log provided to me by Life Forge arrived overnight.

So sweet when everything is domestic, no customs to worry about and fast!

The guy from Life Forge saw I lived in a van and said he has another vanlife customer and he gets his packages sent to a free package locker from the supermarket chain Woolworths who have an arrangement with NZ Post and you basically they email you when it arrives and you just go into the supermarket with your ID and they give it to you.

The standard NZ Post tracking works too. I didn't know about this and it solves a few problems I thought I couldn't afford to fix, namely getting a P.O Box.

Everything was boxed up tight and the vials bubble wrapped

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He must have saw the posts in my log where I was having a whinge about how I can't type on a phone and need a keyboard, as he has sent me a Bluetooth keyboard for my phone! I'm touched @SaintSoup - that's really thoughful of you.

Thanks very much bro =)

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NZNEP, the needle exchange, does not carry these ultra-fine needles needed for retatrutide so thanks for giving me some bro

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They do NZ bank transfers and also take crypto if you want.

Their site is https://life-forge.com/ and @SaintSoup here on Evo.

You are going to love reta dude just start low and be patient. Betaine HCl is handy or if you have white vinegar you could dilute it with water and have a shot of that

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

You are going to love reta dude just start low and be patient. Betaine HCl is handy or if you have white vinegar you could dilute it with water and have a shot of that

Thanks bro, I'm looking forward to it. I'm only on Day 8 of my Testosterone Injection Therapy so didn't just start into it, I'm gonna ask for advice on how to proceed in my log tomorrow.

I listened to the three podcast episodes about it which I recommended to anyone researching retatrutide.

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There's episodes about terzepatide and semiglutide too.

What was the thing you mentioned on the phone last night again?

Sorry bro my memory is fried, gotta start taking notes

 

[Dave1288499]

Thanks bro, I'm looking forward to it. I'm only on Day 8 of my Testosterone Injection Therapy so didn't just start into it, I'm gonna ask for advice on how to proceed in my log tomorrow.

I listened to the three podcast episodes about it which I recommended to anyone researching retatrutide.

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There's episodes about terzepatide and semiglutide too.

What was the thing you mentioned on the phone last night again?

Sorry bro my memory is fried, gotta start taking notes

No I was talking about the gen 4 glp, break your reta shots into smaller shots it works better micro dosed. I tried all at once you get a peak then a trough. But many small peaks adds up to a more level line I'll show you drug plotter this weekend

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

But many small peaks adds up to a more level line I'll show you drug plotter this weekend

Alright deal!

 

[Dave1288499]

Alright deal!

I mostly use it to refference half lives when planning pushes, I don't get overly technical about it. But I find it fun looking at how esters stack. Bit like training really when you think about it, you have your down and dirty compounds and your more mild less "shit your liver out" compounds that are sustainable like in lifting you have your training past failure to -3 rir or you have giant sets and myorep match sets

 

[Silentwarx]

Life Forge Test E but there’s nothing on their site about Test or other compounds, only peptides? How did you source the Test from them?

 

[LevButlerov]

Life Forge Test E but there’s nothing on their site about Test or other compounds, only peptides? How did you source the Test from them?

He likely contacted @SaintSoup directly, check above.

@Silentwarx are you cycling now?

 

[Silentwarx]

He likely contacted @SaintSoup directly, check above.

@Silentwarx are you cycling now?

Negative, PCT at the moment after using some of KiwiBulk’s products. Will likely log the next round but won’t be for a while.

I’m just keeping up to date with sources as obviously NZ is a pretty shitty place for this!

 

[LevButlerov]

Negative, PCT at the moment after using some of KiwiBulk’s products. Will likely log the next round but won’t be for a while.

I’m just keeping up to date with sources as obviously NZ is a pretty shitty place for this!

Kiwibulk he's not a member right? @Silentwarx
PCT what you running? share please

 

[Silentwarx]

He’s on here, just one of the early suppliers, unsure if still operating but there is a thread around.

Just finished a 15 week Test E 500mg/w cycle and enjoyed it. Certainly made me realise I could/should have been training harder naturally but I’ll take that on board in the six months or so I’ll not be pinning.

Currently into week 2 of PCT Nolva & Clomid and have dropped some water weight. DOMS are back with a vengeance, but no major strength loss yet which is good

 

[LevButlerov]

He’s on here, just one of the early suppliers, unsure if still operating but there is a thread around.

Just finished a 15 week Test E 500mg/w cycle and enjoyed it. Certainly made me realise I could/should have been training harder naturally but I’ll take that on board in the six months or so I’ll not be pinning.

Currently into week 2 of PCT Nolva & Clomid and have dropped some water weight. DOMS are back with a vengeance, but no major strength loss yet which is good

@Silentwarx you should have him come here and get approved, really bad for him to sell UG and still be known and not be in the EVO family.

Have you done bloods pre pct?

 

[Silentwarx]

@Silentwarx you should have him come here and get approved, really bad for him to sell UG and still be known and not be in the EVO family.

Have you done bloods pre pct?

He is here bro, the thread is only a few months old.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-zealand-supplier-nz-supplies.102896/

Yeah have bloods for end of cycle/pre PCT. Mucked up the timing a little but all appeared as expected. e2 a little high but wasn’t feeling any sides so I didn’t really keep it in check properly. Learnings for next cycle!

 

[LevButlerov]

He is here bro, the thread is only a few months old.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-zealand-supplier-nz-supplies.102896/

Yeah have bloods for end of cycle/pre PCT. Mucked up the timing a little but all appeared as expected. e2 a little high but wasn’t feeling any sides so I didn’t really keep it in check properly. Learnings for next cycle!

Oh I know this thread -
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-zealand-supplier-nz-supplies.102896/
I am in it @Silentwarx
but @kiwibulk is not approved, it might be hit or miss with him.

Can you share bloods? just blur personal info.

 

[Silentwarx]

Oh I know this thread -
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-zealand-supplier-nz-supplies.102896/
I am in it @Silentwarx
but @kiwibulk is not approved, it might be hit or miss with him.

Can you share bloods? just blur personal info.

Bloods two weeks after my last injection just prior starting PCT returned

Testosterone - 37.1 nmol/l
E2 - 284 pmol/l

E2 definitely a little high but I had no sides and dropped my AI partway through. Probably should have done bloods in middle of cycle but didn’t know I could get them done privately until after the fact.

Testosterone pre cycle was 16.1 nmol/l

So I’d say his gear is legit

 

[LevButlerov]

Bloods two weeks after my last injection just prior starting PCT returned

Testosterone - 37.1 nmol/l
E2 - 284 pmol/l

E2 definitely a little high but I had no sides and dropped my AI partway through. Probably should have done bloods in middle of cycle but didn’t know I could get them done privately until after the fact.

Testosterone pre cycle was 16.1 nmol/l

So I’d say his gear is legit

Testosterone is not a factor in post pct bloods, as strange as that sounds, LH FSH SHBG are the big factors with e2 and 284 is HIGH estrogen not little high.

Did you test the rest? @Silentwarx

 

[Silentwarx]

Testosterone is not a factor in post pct bloods, as strange as that sounds, LH FSH SHBG are the big factors with e2 and 284 is HIGH estrogen not little high.

Did you test the rest? @Silentwarx

These were pre-PCT bloods but even so, no I didn’t do LH/FSH. Would you normally do those throughout?

Have had mixed reactions to the e2 results. Some guys have been like you, yep way too high, where others are more along the lines of, if there was no sides, then no drama.

So I’m unsure about that, and what to do next cycle. I’m planning on running Test/EQ so don’t know whether to add an AI since EQ can have the same effect, and crashing my e2 would be much worse?

SHBG was 28 nmol/l.

 

[LevButlerov]

These were pre-PCT bloods but even so, no I didn’t do LH/FSH. Would you normally do those throughout?

Have had mixed reactions to the e2 results. Some guys have been like you, yep way too high, where others are more along the lines of, if there was no sides, then no drama.

So I’m unsure about that, and what to do next cycle. I’m planning on running Test/EQ so don’t know whether to add an AI since EQ can have the same effect, and crashing my e2 would be much worse?

SHBG was 28 nmol/l.

I think we need to redo all bloods right now if you not going back on cycle, do you plan to go back on soon? @Silentwarx

I like test/eq for the cycle that will work fine but going to depend on your level now, can you redo bloods?

 

[Dave1288499]

These were pre-PCT bloods but even so, no I didn’t do LH/FSH. Would you normally do those throughout?

Have had mixed reactions to the e2 results. Some guys have been like you, yep way too high, where others are more along the lines of, if there was no sides, then no drama.

So I’m unsure about that, and what to do next cycle. I’m planning on running Test/EQ so don’t know whether to add an AI since EQ can have the same effect, and crashing my e2 would be much worse?

SHBG was 28 nmol/l.

From what I've seen eq seems to compete for the ER in some individuals. I seem to be the unlucky fucker that has to run eq higher than test to get that effect

 

[LevButlerov]

From what I've seen eq seems to compete for the ER in some individuals. I seem to be the unlucky fucker that has to run eq higher than test to get that effect

What dose did you run?

 

[Dave1288499]

What dose did you run?

500test and 600 EQ for anything to happen to my estrogen

 

[LevButlerov]

500test and 600 EQ for anything to happen to my estrogen

What was the eq brand? thats the big issue.

 

[Dave1288499]

What was the eq brand? thats the big issue.

Oh mix of alpha pharm and Magnum and maxtreme whatever I could at the time. I was going to use some Chinese eq that I used before again. I seem to produce a lot of estrogen so I take 1-3 adex a week even with Ed injections

 

[Silentwarx]

I had planned to redo my bloods four weeks after PCT - is there any point doing them during? I’m week 2 of a 6 week planned PCT.

No, I won’t be going back on until early next year most likely. Trying to do it conservatively to figure this shit out, rather than ruining myself immediately

 

[LevButlerov]

Oh mix of alpha pharm and Magnum and maxtreme whatever I could at the time. I was going to use some Chinese eq that I used before again. I seem to produce a lot of estrogen so I take 1-3 adex a week even with Ed injections

It might be underdosed or fake EQ if you ran 600mgs with no estrogen issues.

 

[LevButlerov]

I had planned to redo my bloods four weeks after PCT - is there any point doing them during? I’m week 2 of a 6 week planned PCT.

No, I won’t be going back on until early next year most likely. Trying to do it conservatively to figure this shit out, rather than ruining myself immediately

You might not be doing PCt right thats the issue. Can you start your PCT log please? @Silentwarx you know how?

 

[Silentwarx]

You might not be doing PCt right thats the issue. Can you start your PCT log please? @Silentwarx you know how?

I’m already partway through, in week 3 now.

PCT protocol I was advised was 14 days after last Test E injection

6 weeks of

Clomid 100/100/50/50 mg ED (none week 5/6)
Nolva 20/20/20/20/20/20 mg ED

I’m not sure how you could know I’m doing my PCT wrong since those bloods were at the end of cycle and before any PCT?

 

[LevButlerov]

I’m already partway through, in week 3 now.

PCT protocol I was advised was 14 days after last Test E injection

6 weeks of

Clomid 100/100/50/50 mg ED (none week 5/6)
Nolva 20/20/20/20/20/20 mg ED

I’m not sure how you could know I’m doing my PCT wrong since those bloods were at the end of cycle and before any PCT?

You will not recover 100%, diet training and other parts are key as well.
you should start a PCT log.

 

[Silentwarx]

You will not recover 100%, diet training and other parts are key as well.
you should start a PCT log.

I know I’m sounding like a broken record here but how have you come up with that based on a single blood result?

I’m still training with the same frequency and cals intake are the same as they were during cycle. I’m missing the occasional top set here and there but for the most part have maintained my strength. Some size is gone but appears to be mostly water weight as expected.

I get e2 was high, but you haven’t really explained why you think my PCT is wrong or why I won’t recover

 

[LevButlerov]

I know I’m sounding like a broken record here but how have you come up with that based on a single blood result?

I’m still training with the same frequency and cals intake are the same as they were during cycle. I’m missing the occasional top set here and there but for the most part have maintained my strength. Some size is gone but appears to be mostly water weight as expected.

I get e2 was high, but you haven’t really explained why you think my PCT is wrong or why I won’t recover

As to not sound like a broken record myself, I have been doing this for a long time, I know when something is off @Silentwarx

I suggested you start a PCT log, if you'd like actual EVO family help. If you want us to guess about your hormones and lifestyle, its just wasting your time honestly.

 

[Silentwarx]

As to not sound like a broken record myself, I have been doing this for a long time, I know when something is off @Silentwarx

I suggested you start a PCT log, if you'd like actual EVO family help. If you want us to guess about your hormones and lifestyle, its just wasting your time honestly.

Not questioning your experience bro, just genuinely asking why you think it’s off. You’re saying it is, but not saying why.

How am I best to start a log partway through a PCT after a cycle then?

 

[LevButlerov]

Not questioning your experience bro, just genuinely asking why you think it’s off. You’re saying it is, but not saying why.

How am I best to start a log partway through a PCT after a cycle then?

Here is what I suggest you do, start a new thread with your PCT log no matter the stage, share you diet training cardio sleep and supp use and we will guide you on the PCT from there.

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My PCT cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

 

[Silentwarx]

Done bro

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/silentwarx-my-pct-log.106524/

 

[Dave1288499]

It might be underdosed or fake EQ if you ran 600mgs with no estrogen issues.

No i wasn't until 600 I got lower estrogen I aromatize a lot

 

[LevButlerov]

No i wasn't until 600 I got lower estrogen I aromatize a lot

what? tell me again please I dont understand.

 

[LevButlerov]

Done bro

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/silentwarx-my-pct-log.106524/

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/silentwarx-my-pct-log.106524/post-1826004

 

[Dave1288499]

what? tell me again please I dont understand.

I had higher estrogen than I wanted until I hit 600 mg eq it wasn't until I hit 600 with 500 test that I could take less ai and remove the mast prop I was using to reduce my nipples growing bitch tits. When I hit 600 I found I could lower my ai use to 1-2 a week at most. The water that the higher estrogen was causing dropped. How can I be more clear I don't have bloods because at that time I didn't care about health unfortunately. I get bloods now I'm intending to get them in Wellington [circumstances permitting]

 

[LevButlerov]

I had higher estrogen than I wanted until I hit 600 mg eq it wasn't until I hit 600 with 500 test that I could take less ai and remove the mast prop I was using to reduce my nipples growing bitch tits. When I hit 600 I found I could lower my ai use to 1-2 a week at most. The water that the higher estrogen was causing dropped. How can I be more clear I don't have bloods because at that time I didn't care about health unfortunately. I get bloods now I'm intending to get them in Wellington [circumstances permitting]

it's best not to use steroids as an anti-estrogen, while I see it a lot its dangerous, in the future use a simple AI like aromasin much easier on your system.