Mini Cycle

[SwampBoy2002]

Hey EVO fam, hope all is well. I plan to do a mini cycle, nothing too big but will see some results. I originally planned to do test but took a step back to look at the bigger picture. For this cycle, originally, I was thinking of doing 6.25 mg of Enclo and 12.5 of mk677 as this has very little sides and can see some benefit more than none. However, considering there is a test base, was looking to add in a sarm. Unsure between ostarine and rad 140 as do not want massive suppression and would like to keep test levels. Was just wondering any advice. Current age is 21 hence hesitance of AAS however know the risks of sarms if abused. Was also looking to add n2guard with all the other sups like nac, milk thistle, omega 3s etc. Would appreciate any thoughts or plans.

 

[fat slag]

honestly the risk to reward using SARMS is much worse than testosterone, you’re better off using a low dose of test for 16-20 weeks and PCTing off if you’d like to maintain normal hormonal function. Speaking from experience, I have used both and experienced better gains and less sides on testosterone alone rather than sarms

 

[stevesmi]

I don’t understand the enclo inclusion. Not needed with nutrobal or any sarm.

 

[SwampBoy2002]

honestly the risk to reward using SARMS is much worse than testosterone, you’re better off using a low dose of test for 16-20 weeks and PCTing off if you’d like to maintain normal hormonal function. Speaking from experience, I have used both and experienced better gains and less sides on testosterone alone rather than sarms

Appreciate it but low dose sarms even though might see the best results are for sure easier and 100% less margin of error. For example fake test, pinning, pct etc. Would rather just a low dose sarm and see some progress with minimal sides

 

[SwampBoy2002]

I don’t understand the enclo inclusion. Not needed with nutrobal or any sarm.

Just thought as I didn't want to suppress my test and would like to try and maintain levels having enclo on it would prevent massive suppression.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey EVO fam, hope all is well. I plan to do a mini cycle, nothing too big but will see some results. I originally planned to do test but took a step back to look at the bigger picture. For this cycle, originally, I was thinking of doing 6.25 mg of Enclo and 12.5 of mk677 as this has very little sides and can see some benefit more than none. However, considering there is a test base, was looking to add in a sarm. Unsure between ostarine and rad 140 as do not want massive suppression and would like to keep test levels. Was just wondering any advice. Current age is 21 hence hesitance of AAS however know the risks of sarms if abused. Was also looking to add n2guard with all the other sups like nac, milk thistle, omega 3s etc. Would appreciate any thoughts or plans.

@SwampBoy2002 thanks for sharing

Mini cycle, you're saying you going to have a test base? did you use testosterone before? clarify please. and how much?

 

[SwampBoy2002]

@SwampBoy2002 thanks for sharing

Mini cycle, you're saying you going to have a test base? did you use testosterone before? clarify please. and how much?

Sorry when I meant test base I meant enclo just to prevent mass suppression. Again, I'm not 100% on the details hence I'm here talking to the wider public on a potential cycle wherein I can reach decent results but prevent massive sides. Anyones plan would be appreciated. Been scrolling through old ones but a lot include S3 LGD etc and very high doses of ostarine and rad upwards of 20mg which is a lot. That's why I'm here asking for a more tailored lower dosage but less sides plan from expertise such as yourself.

 

[LevButlerov]

Sorry when I meant test base I meant enclo just to prevent mass suppression. Again, I'm not 100% on the details hence I'm here talking to the wider public on a potential cycle wherein I can reach decent results but prevent massive sides. Anyones plan would be appreciated. Been scrolling through old ones but a lot include S3 LGD etc and very high doses of ostarine and rad upwards of 20mg which is a lot. That's why I'm here asking for a more tailored lower dosage but less sides plan from expertise such as yourself.

@SwampBoy2002 well to be honest I reviewed again your pre cycle log
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-pre-cyle-training-and-lifestyle-log.102796/
I see no diet no training nothing much at all and no updates. I dont know if you're really ready for any cycle. We can't get you to properly daily update your diet and training, you see how that would be concerning to us?

 

[SwampBoy2002]

@SwampBoy2002 well to be honest I reviewed again your pre cycle log
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-pre-cyle-training-and-lifestyle-log.102796/
I see no diet no training nothing much at all and no updates. I dont know if you're really ready for any cycle. We can't get you to properly daily update your diet and training, you see how that would be concerning to us?

Again, I plan to post once my cycle has started. I understand it might be concerning however, the mere thought of someone starting something without any guidance is more concerning hence why I came to this platform. Thats why I messaged privately and seen how many others have received good tailored plans I would very much appreciate the same.

 

[LevButlerov]

Again, I plan to post once my cycle has started. I understand it might be concerning however, the mere thought of someone starting something without any guidance is more concerning hence why I came to this platform. Thats why I messaged privately and seen how many others have received good tailored plans I would very much appreciate the same.

I did see your private message but I don't get it, whats the issue with training diet tracking? @SwampBoy2002
if you cant do it now for next 2-3 weeks, how do you expect to do it on cycle right?
I think I'm very fair here, start training and dialing your diet before you talking about cycling.

 

[SwampBoy2002]

I did see your private message but I don't get it, whats the issue with training diet tracking? @SwampBoy2002
if you cant do it now for next 2-3 weeks, how do you expect to do it on cycle right?
I think I'm very fair here, start training and dialing your diet before you talking about cycling.

Maybe I haven't clarified but I have been training and dialled my diet with meal preps. However, I want to post consistently once started as I have to order from umbrella in us which will take a while hence why I am just looking to buy the shit get the cycle sorted then post and then start my cycle.

 

[LevButlerov]

Maybe I haven't clarified but I have been training and dialled my diet with meal preps. However, I want to post consistently once started as I have to order from umbrella in us which will take a while hence why I am just looking to buy the shit get the cycle sorted then post and then start my cycle.

You should post consistently BEFORE you start. Do you understand how important it is for us to understand your training food at your age? its serious for the EVO family.

 

[ceo]

bros running enclo doesn't prevent suppression.

if that were true nobody would need trt for life.

 

[ROIDDERS]

you can't outsmart your body.
You're not going to prevent suppression if you take something that is suppressive.

 

[Mobster]

honestly the risk to reward using SARMS is much worse than testosterone, you’re better off using a low dose of test for 16-20 weeks and PCTing off if you’d like to maintain normal hormonal function. Speaking from experience, I have used both and experienced better gains and less sides on testosterone alone rather than sarms

Not at 21. In a few years.

And what do you think the risk issues on sarms are?

 

[chesty]

You shouldn't worry when it comes to sarms.

They are minimally suppressive and you bounce back quickly when you come on.

 

[Ulter]

Keep your sarms length to 8 weeks and you will bounce back every time.

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

PLEASE UPDATE LOG

 

[fat slag]

Not at 21. In a few years.

And what do you think the risk issues on sarms are?

all the side effects expected with traditional oral anabolics asides from prostate growth and slightly lower levels of testosterone suppression

 

[e2]

Make sure you add this to your log.

This way, we don't have to relearn who you are and do everything over again.

 

[2Thick]

Definitely leave the questions on your log. That's the best thing you can do.

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

sarms are very minimally suppressive.

and nutrobal isn't suppressive at all.

 

[Wootoom]

save clomid for pct.
and do a small dose only.
If you use legit sarms, you won't have issues.

 

[ballin2504]

Drop the enclo

 

[Noah Wixx]

Appreciate it but low dose sarms even though might see the best results are for sure easier and 100% less margin of error. For example fake test, pinning, pct etc. Would rather just a low dose sarm and see some progress with minimal sides

Not easier on the liver or kidneys being orals so make sure you are on liver protection supplement like n2guard or something similar.

 

[25homes]

I don’t understand the enclo inclusion. Not needed with nutrobal or any sarm.

I agree