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Veteran Log Mobsters Training Diary

RoidRage69 said:
What’s the dosages going to be?
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Not 100% decided. I put 250mg (1ml of each) of each in yesterday and the plan is deffo every 4 days but I might lower the amounts to .75 of a ml. It's the difference between c700mg a week and c900mg a week. The higher would be an all time high for me injecting and I'm not sure it's necessary. I'll do some more thinking before the next pin. Once decided it'll stay that way.
 
Mobster said:
Not 100% decided. I put 250mg (1ml of each) of each in yesterday and the plan is deffo every 4 days but I might lower the amounts to .75 of a ml. It's the difference between c700mg a week and c900mg a week. The higher would be an all time high for me injecting and I'm not sure it's necessary. I'll do some more thinking before the next pin. Once decided it'll stay that way.
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I’ve actually lowered my dosage to 540mg weekly as advised by PSL. We are older and need to be on the cautious side. Do you take any meds for bp?
 
RoidRage69 said:
I’ve actually lowered my dosage to 540mg weekly as advised by PSL. We are older and need to be on the cautious side. Do you take any meds for bp?
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I don't have any issues requiring meds on a regular basis. So no. BP has always been in range

Any such issues would not, I feel, be dose related (I've always preferred a low lose approach) but bodyweight and or fitness.
 
Topps_Baseball88 said:
Mobster I enjoy the approach with the low doses it is a testament with what proper training eating and recovering can do for you with just a small amount of ped use, the icing on the cake when everything else is properly setup.
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Time is better than massive amounts of PEDs. Most don't wanna work hard and slowly for years to get there - enjoy the journey
 
Juice_monkey91 said:
Great to see another like minded person in the thinking of low dosage PED's for longativity and less side effects 💪
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We promote it on most of our podcasts.

Here's a truth which many who think it's all about doses ignore and I'll use the daddy - Tren - as my example.

ANY PED which works well at adding pounds of muscle on, boosts your strength quickly, or strips fat away fast comes with a ton of sides and risks. ANY.

Tren, with it's crazy ass rep, is among the best and worst. Can you get strong, add muscle and look leaner? Ab-so-fkin-lutely. Zero doubt. But anxiety is thy name. You can and often do feel like sh*t. King Sh*t but sh*t just the same. And adding muscle etc FAST is NOT a good thing. Remember all those 80's and 90's pec, bicep and quad tears? Fast gains and the body not adapted to it. Ditto keeping it and more likely losing it.

Heck, Stevesmi, myself and many others HIGHLY rate one of the SLOWEST adders of muscle - T/Bol. Ditto a personal fave of mine Anavar.

Why am I as big and strong as I am now - slow but steady gains over DECADES. Literally, as Stevesmi stated recently, I've trained longer than some here have lived. And my first PED was at age 37
 
Mobster said:
We promote it on most of our podcasts.

Here's a truth which many who think it's all about doses ignore and I'll use the daddy - Tren - as my example.

ANY PED which works well at adding pounds of muscle on, boosts your strength quickly, or strips fat away fast comes with a ton of sides and risks. ANY.

Tren, with it's crazy ass rep, is among the best and worst. Can you get strong, add muscle and look leaner? Ab-so-fkin-lutely. Zero doubt. But anxiety is thy name. You can and often do feel like sh*t. King Sh*t but sh*t just the same. And adding muscle etc FAST is NOT a good thing. Remember all those 80's and 90's pec, bicep and quad tears? Fast gains and the body not adapted to it. Ditto keeping it and more likely losing it.

Heck, Stevesmi, myself and many others HIGHLY rate one of the SLOWEST adders of muscle - T/Bol. Ditto a personal fave of mine Anavar.

Why am I as big and strong as I am now - slow but steady gains over DECADES. Literally, as Stevesmi stated recently, I've trained longer than some here have lived. And my first PED was at age 37
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110% agree with you bro I only run tren at low low dosages 100mg to 150mg max a week alot of people forget it's 5x stronger then test and the sides are manageable

I love masteron one of the most underrated PED's in Australia
 
Tuesday
Much faffing about and, for whatever reason (the cycle or food or talking about my deceased brothers 'estate'?) it took me AGES to get to sleep. Like 1am. Yet...

Seated Press
Those following all my logs will know that I had, going back almost 2 years, an issue with what is called a 'frozen' shoulder. The right was worse than the left. Age + wear and tear added to that. A year or so ago I had a cortisone jab into the right and I do a LOT of super light (broomstick) warm ups on bench and shoulder sessions. Today...
to 100kg x 4 reps - first time in 2 years

Saxon Bar work
I didn't add this Friday because I had the tiniest bit of soft tissue soreness at the base of the right thumb. Plus that would have been the new/unseasoned with chalk bar.
to 95kg x 4 x 3 non stop (bar didn't even touch the floor) reps and 1 x 8 reps. Felt strong

Bwt: 328.5lbs
 
Friday
One week in to the bulk/sus and deca cycle and today was... well see for yourself. My stomach was doing it's 'you strain with heavy weights have some of this' today. I was feeling it every step of the way to Powerhouse Gym (trained with Ken). But it made zero difference once I was under the bar.

Close Grip Bench Press
to 120kg x 1 fast rep, 140kg x a fast rep. Then the targeted set work. 170kg x 1 rep., Easy. So I'd set myself a challenge of 170kg x 2 and did 170kg x 3 reps. Up we go then. 180kg/396lbs x 1 easy rep. So what the hell... might as well load my life time personal best from 15 years ago then - 190kg/418lbs x 1 rep (the last few inches was a GRIND lol)

Iso Lever Row
Did these first while we waited for the bench)
to 130kg/296lbs x 6 reps a side

Bwt: 328lbs
 
benching 190kg.webp

Last few inches of the 418lbs bench from today
 
we love to see guys hitting new personal records
 
Nice job looks like everybody in your gym supports each other
 
mobster is showing us all up!
 
yes mobster is a massive animal!
 
Monday
Hatfield Squat
basr x 87 reps, 100kg x 8 reps, 180kg x 8 reps, 260kg x 4 reps

Leg Press
205kg x 8 reps, 410kg x 8 reps, 680kg (easy) x 8 reps

Lying Leg Curls
4p x 8 reps, 9p x 6 reps

Leg Extensions
1/2 stack x 8 reps, stack +15kg x 7 reps

Bwt: 330lbs
 
Tuesday
Stomach not liking me. That'a gonna be down to straining on legs. Such is life except I was a bit sluggish
Seated Press
to 100kg/220lbs x 5 reps

Saxon Bar
to 97.5kg/214.5lbs x 4 x 3 non-stop reps and 1 x 5 hands off between each rep

Bwt: 329.9lbs
 
Mobster said:
Monday
Hatfield Squat
basr x 87 reps, 100kg x 8 reps, 180kg x 8 reps, 260kg x 4 reps

Leg Press
205kg x 8 reps, 410kg x 8 reps, 680kg (easy) x 8 reps

Lying Leg Curls
4p x 8 reps, 9p x 6 reps

Leg Extensions
1/2 stack x 8 reps, stack +15kg x 7 reps

Bwt: 330lbs
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Mobster said:
Tuesday
Stomach not liking me. That'a gonna be down to straining on legs. Such is life except I was a bit sluggish
Seated Press
to 100kg/220lbs x 5 reps

Saxon Bar
to 97.5kg/214.5lbs x 4 x 3 non-stop reps and 1 x 5 hands off between each rep

Bwt: 329.9lbs
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@Mobster keeping your beast mode high
 
One of the things I do is plan my sessions. Here's tomorrows agenda:

Close Grip Bench Press
to 120kg/264lbs x 1, 140kg/308lbs x 1, 175kg x 12, 175kg x 2, 180kg/396lbs x 1, 180kg x 2 then whatever my body lets me do. The plan is to f**K sh*t up, eat and nap lol

s/s

Lat Pulldowns (medium space handle to upper chest)
to stack (eqv to 120kg/264lbs) x 18-20
 
Why do you think your stomach is bothering you so much lately?
 
Leg day is brutal always and it should be
 
much respect mobster you are still pushing through even on days you don't feel well
 
you keep getting stronger and stronger it seems
 
Friday
Hell of a session and I'm not done yet. @Powerhouse with Ken (equaled his lifetime best of 125kg x 1 at age 76).
Lat Pulldowns
to stack = 1 stacker plate x 18 plates

Close Grip Bench Press
to an all time best (multiple singles) 6 x 1 x 180kg/396lbs. Previously it had been 5 x 1 back in 2009

Bwt:151kg
 
Mobster said:
Friday
Hell of a session and I'm not done yet. @Powerhouse with Ken (equaled his lifetime best of 125kg x 1 at age 76).
Lat Pulldowns
to stack = 1 stacker plate x 18 plates

Close Grip Bench Press
to an all time best (multiple singles) 6 x 1 x 180kg/396lbs. Previously it had been 5 x 1 back in 2009

Bwt:151kg
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Not bad for an old guy.
 
RoidRage69 said:
Not bad for an old guy.
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One of the things they don't tell you is just how god damned ruined you're gonna feel after. Sure they hint at the pride of your success. But sh*t is still heavy and joints, bones n stuff are gonna be TIRED.

That said next week will be 3-4 x 185kg top set work. I'll be sure to moan after that too ha ha
 
Mobster said:
One of the things they don't tell you is just how god damned ruined you're gonna feel after. Sure they hint at the pride of your success. But sh*t is still heavy and joints, bones n stuff are gonna be TIRED.

That said next week will be 3-4 x 185kg top set work. I'll be sure to moan after that too ha ha
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Need lube on the joints. LOL.
 
Saturday
I've spent the last 24 hours bone tired. The reality of any push into new territory be that PED use, almost highest bodyweight or training is that it's whole new level of stress thus far not experienced. I speak as someone who still has a few, as yet, unbroken world records. That means I'm literally the only person on the planet (so far) who has done that thing.

The same 'rules' apply when I break a personal best. In order for me to go to a new place I gotta push harder. If I want 195kg or 200kg/440lbs as a life time best I gotta do sick f**ked up sh*t. I read yesterday a line which seems to apply: you can still be strong as you age - it just take longer to recover
 
Mobster said:
Thursday
Today was as B-R-U-T-A-L as I knew it would be. @ Powerhouse

Hammer DB Curls
to 90kg x 11 reps

s/s

Skull Crushers
to 91.5kg x 6 reps

TPD on MA Machine
stack x 20 reps

Bwt: 334lbs (back to all time high)
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great workout
 
Mobster said:
Saturday
I've spent the last 24 hours bone tired. The reality of any push into new territory be that PED use, almost highest bodyweight or training is that it's whole new level of stress thus far not experienced. I speak as someone who still has a few, as yet, unbroken world records. That means I'm literally the only person on the planet (so far) who has done that thing.

The same 'rules' apply when I break a personal best. In order for me to go to a new place I gotta push harder. If I want 195kg or 200kg/440lbs as a life time best I gotta do sick f**ked up sh*t. I read yesterday a line which seems to apply: you can still be strong as you age - it just take longer to recover
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@Mobster i would consider lowering into a recomp for now if you can
 
Monday
Going full bore today. Did end up nearly puking though lol
Power Squat Machine
150kg/330lbs x 8 reps, 300kg/660lbs x 8 reps, 530kg/1166lbs x 8 reps (poss PB)

Leg Press
205kg x 8 reps, 410kg x 8 reps, 803kg x fail. Dropped back to 727kg /1599lbs x 5 reps

Lying Leg Curls
4p x 8 reps, 9p x 7 reps

Leg Extensions
1/2 stack x 8 reps, stack + 15kg x 8 reps

Bwt: 332lbs
 
RoidRage69 said:
What’s your best squat? 750+?
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Almost exactly that. 340kg/748lbs x 1 on the Hatfield Squat and 365kg/800lbs x 1 (and 340kg x 4) on the Lever Squat. I'd like to do a single on the Hatfield @ 800lbs in the next few months. The only issue is my Safety Bar is only rated to 350k. Cerebus do one which goes to 1500lbs for ok money
 
Mobster said:
Almost exactly that. 340kg/748lbs x 1 on the Hatfield Squat and 365kg/800lbs x 1 (and 340kg x 4) on the Lever Squat. I'd like to do a single on the Hatfield @ 800lbs in the next few months. The only issue is my Safety Bar is only rated to 350k. Cerebus do one which goes to 1500lbs for ok money
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Why dont you do regular squats? Bad back? Mobility in shoulders?
 
RoidRage69 said:
Why dont you do regular squats? Bad back? Mobility in shoulders?
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Mobility. I've written before about my frozen shoulder but even prior to that I was struggling to get both hands on the bar. Simple wear and tear from 40+ years under the bar. Plus I do what I like and can do vs having to do what others think I ought to do. For example it's why I close grip (relatively) vs the more traditional wide grip bench press. Ditto grip training to a world class level vs strongman or powerlifting
 
I was asked on another log about my records:

David Horne's World of Grip

These are the British records only. Some are also World records.

ADJUSTABLE THICK BAR LIFT (ONE HAND)
Male (120k+) - Steve Gardener (England) - 161.98k - 23 Apr, 2017 - Grip Tour - Leeds, England (still top 4 in the world)
ADJUSTABLE THICK BAR - HOLD (ONE HAND) - min 5 secs [120k, 105k, 90k, 75k, 60k, 45k or 30k if needed]
Male (120k+) - Steve Gardener (England) – 120k for 19sec - 10 Aug, 2014 - World Alt Games - Llanwrtyd Wells, Wales (still top 5 in the world)
AXLE DEADLIFT - DOUBLE OVERHAND THUMBLESS GRIP - 20" LIFT
Male (120k+) - Steve Gardener (Eng) - 200.35k - 28 April, 2018 - European Grip Champs - Stafford, England (still 2nd best ever) NB: there are similar events where more has been done
ONE HAND INCH REPLICA DUMBBELL DEADLIFT AND HOLD (ONE HAND) (No tilt - empty coke can sitting on each globe) - 78k or 54k dumbbell
Male (120k+) - Steve Gardener (England) - 78k for 24sec - 1 Aug, 2015 - WSH, Stafford, England [78.5k Holle]
PICKAXE LEVER TO REAR - HOLD (ONE HAND) - min 5 secs [7.4k, 6.6k, 5.8k, 5k, 4.2k, 3.4k or 2.45k if needed] - (wooden shaft of roughly 1k included in the total)
Masters Male 50+ - Steve Gardener (England) - 7.4k for 22sec - 24 Apr, 2016 - Grip Tour - Leeds, England (age 51, B/W 130.3k)
ONE HAND 54k 'BABY' INCH DUMBELL HOLD FOR TIME
Male (120k+) - 50 secs Steve Gardener - 23 May 2009 Gloucester, England
ONE HAND 54k 'BABY' INCH DUMBELL HOLD FOR TIME
Male (120k+) - 50 secs Steve Gardener - 23 May 2009 Gloucester, England
ONE HAND LIFT - short range lift (2")
Male (120k+) - 330k Steve Gardener - 19 May 2007 Gloucester, England
ONE HAND DEADLIFT - using an Olympic Bar (with no hook grip)
Male (120k+) - 151.95k - Steve Gardener - 31 July 2010 Madrid, Spain [Eleiko Powerlifting bar]
ONE HAND DEADLIFT - using an Olympic Bar (with a thumbless grip)
Male (120k+) - 116.2k Steve Gardener & David Horne - 12 Nov 2005 Great Haywood, England [Uddenholm Olympic bar]
DINNIE RING LIFT - for reps (90 secs) 187k large, or 146k small stone with respective replica rings/apparatus.
Male (120k+) - 187kg x 22 reps Steve Gardener - 8 May 2010 Gloucester, England
ONE HAND VULCAN GRIPPER - 20mm block close
Male (Open) - Lev 21 Steve Gardener - 11 Apr 2009 Stafford, England
ONE HAND GRIPPER - 20mm block close
Male (Open) - 3.65 Steve Gardener - 20 May 2006 Gloucester, England
ONE HAND WEAVER STICK LIFT TO REAR (with wrist wraps)
Male (Open) - 8.1k Steve Gardener - 2 Aug 2003 Stafford, England

World Records
World records list
AXLE DEADLIFT AND HOLD - DOUBLE OVERHAND THUMBLESS GRIP - min 5 secs [130k, 115k, 100k, 85k, 70k, 55k, 40k or 25k if needed
No2 Steve Gardener (England) - 130k for 35sec - 24 Apr, 2016 - Grip Tour - Leeds, England
ONE HAND INCH REPLICA DUMBBELL DEADLIFT AND HOLD (ONE HAND) (No tilt - empty coke can sitting on each globe) - 78k or 54k dumbbell
performance video
Male (120k+) - Steve Gardener (England) - 78k for 24sec - 1 Aug, 2015 - WSH, Stafford, England [78.5k Holle]
PICKAXE LEVER TO REAR LIFT (ONE HAND) - (wooden shaft of roughly 1k included in the total)
No3 Steve Gardener (Eng) - 10.12k - 1 Aug, 2015 - WSH, Stafford, England
PICKAXE LEVER TO REAR - HOLD (ONE HAND) - min 5 secs [7.4k, 6.6k, 5.8k, 5k, 4.2k, 3.4k or 2.45k if needed] - (wooden shaft of roughly 1k included in the total)
No3 Steve Gardener (Eng) - 7.4k for 22sec - 24 Apr, 2016 - Grip Tour - Leeds, England

Feats of strength
David Horne's World of Grip
1st ever

MILLENNIUM DUMBELL DEADLIFT​

Steve Gardener

INCH REPLICA DUMBELL DEADLIFT
Steve Gardener

50LB YORK BLOB
Steve Gardener

IRONMIND CERTIFIED CAPTAINS OF CRUSH

#3 Gripper
Steve Gardener 2001

CLOSING ELITE OR SUPER ELITE GRIPPERS
Steve Gardener (Super Elite)

There are others not listed. I have, for example, closed a Ironmind CoC 4 gripper (video on YouTube) and I may well be the ONLY person to do so as a part of an all round competition. I've also done two Inch dumbbells (thumb over grip) walk for distance at the 2010 Mighty Mitts etc etc

Some of the records will, of course, be lost in time. Others will stay as is cos the event rules change over time.
 
mobster the champ of the forum
 
yes he is representing us older folks for sure I'm still kicking as well and I'm a senior
 
I want to see mobster break more records that would be awesome
 
you are one of the best for sure. nice record list
 
Tuesday
If I kill legs I struggle the next day - such is life. I also had bad news today regarding one of my elderly neighbors dying over night. He'd only recently started Chemo and had represented (as well as coached teams) Wales in air rifle and pistol shooting.We'd enjoyed many a chat while getting our daily steps in. After a while I was able to 'get my head on' in my gym.

Seated Press
to 102.5kg/225.5lbs x 4 reps

Saxon Bar
bar/12.5kg x 8 reps, 52.5kg (mis load) x 6 reps, 100kg x 5 x 1 reps. All bar the first set were hands on for all the reps / touch n go.

Bwt: 332lbs
 
Friday
Last heavy bench session @ Powerhouse. 3 man crew with Ken, Chris and myself for the most part. Heaviest bench day I've ever had pre any 1RM attempts. Still a little sluggish etc getting my ass to the gym but once I'm there...

Mid Iso Lever Row
to 130kg/264lbs (mixed 25kg plates with the 20kg plates and used a band to keep the weights on) x 6 reps

Close Grip Bench Press
broomstick warm ups, bar x 8, 60kg x 8, 80kg x 6, 120k x 1, 140kg x 1, 170kg x 1 and then 4 x 1 x 185kg/407lbs

Bwt: 334lbs (also back to all time high)
 
Being the analytical mo-fo I can be I spent 45 minutes talking to myself about every aspect of the last few, but especially yesterdays, training sessions last night. All with a view to deciding how next Friday's workout would go.

Here's a few of those thoughts:
1. How I feel beforehand. Kinda shit. That may well come down to aspects. One is I need to feel 'on' ONLY when I lift and I sometimes think my body holds back that sense of energy and well being for lifting only. The other is it is NOT comfortable being 334lbs and would, if I stayed this heavy, take a while to get used to. That's not gonna happen
2. How I prepared. I walk to the gym. That's how I get ready. I left a little late and was still eating my oatmeal 20 minutes beforehand. The gym made me a coffee to go with the doubled up one I had before I left. Food will barely, if at all, have kicked in.
3. Speed warming up. The faster I can move with the broomstick or bar the better I bench. Speed IS power. Yesterday I was coming off the bench when repping the stick. That's 300+lbs flying off the bench and slamming back down
4. How easy the warm ups are. How easy the 120kg/264lbs, 140kg/308lbs and so on move is a great indicator of what happens with the top weights.
5. Switching on / switching off. I spend a few minutes getting my head in the right space. Muttering away and cursing myself. Yet once I'm actually performing the rep it's just moving the bar.
6. Taking each rep on it's own. If you start to think too much about 4 or 5 singles you take a little energy from the rep you're about to do. It can be overwhelming to consider how f**ked you'll feel after. Living in the moment is how it gets done. Do the rep and recover
7. Success breeds success - do the work. Each time I am successful and complete another single rep with 185kg is another baby step closer to making next Friday successful.
8. Visualization. Seeing yourself doing the thing. I know a session is going well when I start to think 'maybe 2 reps' :LOL: I'm seeing that 200kg/440lbs in my head
 
Monday
A good solid Monday's session. Kirk D at my gym
Lever Squat
100kg x 8, 200kg x 8, 320kg/704lbs x 4 reps (more there)

Iso Leg Press
50kg x 8, 100kg x 8, 160kg/352lbs (PB?) x 8 reps

Lying Leg Curls
4p x 8, 9p x 6 (shot my bolt on the previous exercises)

Leg Extensions
1/2 stack x 8, stack +17.5kg x 4 (more there)

Bwt: 334lbs
 
Mobster said:
Monday
A good solid Monday's session. Kirk D at my gym
Lever Squat
100kg x 8, 200kg x 8, 320kg/704lbs x 4 reps (more there)

Iso Leg Press
50kg x 8, 100kg x 8, 160kg/352lbs (PB?) x 8 reps

Lying Leg Curls
4p x 8, 9p x 6 (shot my bolt on the previous exercises)

Leg Extensions
1/2 stack x 8, stack +17.5kg x 4 (more there)

Bwt: 334lbs
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@Mobster big lever squat bro you're pushing it
 
Great tips by mobster above a lot of these are what Champions follow
 
to be the best you can be you have to be positive about it too
 
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