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[Shakey]

Wtf!! Brother, I am so sorry this happened, heal up!! Work whatcha can!!

I will, thanks brother. Ive recided not to wait on physio and start a rehab plan myself. Its f4ee healthcare but takes so long. Prob wobt get an mri or ultrasound for a month atleast. Going ti be machine work and cardio.

 

[Shakey]

Maybe get on to some bpc and tb to speed up recovery

Im blasting 9mg of GLOW in that lat daily right now til i get some standalone BPC. Thats way i dont blow through my GLOW.

 

[Shakey]

Sorry to hear that bro hoping the mri comes back positive for you and the recovery is super swift.

Well youll be hoping for a while, i inagine probanly 6 weeks or so until i get imaging. Healthcares slow as shit here.

 

[LevButlerov]

I will, thanks brother. Ive recided not to wait on physio and start a rehab plan myself. Its f4ee healthcare but takes so long. Prob wobt get an mri or ultrasound for a month atleast. Going ti be machine work and cardio.

we need to get you on bpc @Shakey @biogenix help the man out

 

[MarkNV]

I will, thanks brother. Ive recided not to wait on physio and start a rehab plan myself. Its f4ee healthcare but takes so long. Prob wobt get an mri or ultrasound for a month atleast. Going ti be machine work and cardio.

Gotta be proactive brother!! Take your time, check out some peptides and do your research for a self rehab.
Just be safe

 

[Shakey]

we need to get you on bpc @Shakey @biogenix help the man out

Im getting around 750mg of boc forn 9mg of glow. So i am lookin at getting some standalone.

 

[Shakey]

Gotta be proactive brother!! Take your time, check out some peptides and do your research for a self rehab.
Just be safe

I will bro, im definitely going to be very conwervative on timelines. I dont want a re tear or cause a chronic issue.

 

[LH5515]

Update
Well boys, ran outta luck with this one. ER doc says its a grade 2 tear. Says he could feel a little or small deformity compared to the other side, so grade 2. No ultrasound, as the only person in town qualified for musculoskeletal ultrasounds died. So ill be waiting on family dr to get either an in town mri or out of town ultrasound to see how bad and get a referal for a sports med dr person and physio person.

As for time off, ill be taking a break until im goid enough for slow cardio, then ill be doing cardio daily, probably aim for a fair amount to cut fat while not doing anything. I will return to doing leg ext, seated lug curls and seated calf raises when i can handle the stabilization. I imagine somewhere inbetween 2-4 weeks.

As for upper body workouts, ill form a plan with some kind of medical person on rehabing.

Unsure what ill do for cycle, but will turn the first 12 of the 20week cycle into a rehab and last 8 going harder, but nit full tilt maybe.

Also ill add that i was a bit off on where pain was at. Its basically spine to armpit now though on the outter edge of lat, with small deformiity. In that one picture maybe the myscles were spasming? The read mark at thispiint may be a heating pad burn i guess. Ill watch for bruising over the next 72 hours.

Sorry to hear this brother... But glass ALWAYS half full. Everyone loves a good comeback log

Rest, recover and you'll be back in no time

 

[Shakey]

Sorry to hear this brother... But glass ALWAYS half full. Everyone loves a good comeback log

Rest, recover and you'll be back in no time

Thanks brother. ill definitely come back stronger for sure.

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

yeah bro def get the peptides going and do the rehab. We can all make a comeback from injury!

 

[Shakey]

yeah bro def get the peptides going and do the rehab. We can all make a comeback from injury!

100% This wont stop me, only got to alter the plan a little.

 

[HarleyGuy]

UPDATE for @Shakey

Shakey told me not to write this but I am anyway haha! Shakey is proud and strong and he doesn't need the help but we Canadians rallied for him anyway just so he knows we value him and actually do care about our EVO brothers.

Shakey is being sent some BPC-157 and TB-500 compliments of some EVO Canadians, all of whom wish to go nameless but you know who you are. @wye gets a special thanks as he already posted he would help.

Let's all band together for Shakey and follow his recovery as he continues to enlighten us with his OCD wisdom on random topics we send his brain wandering on and his vampiric late night 4am posts that are a great contribution to EVO.

I'm looking forward to reading how much BPC Shakey can blast in one day! Ain't no grade 2 tear gonna keep this man down!

Canadians: @BeMe @haldencapital @VerticallyChallenged @XxDennxX @Farmboy @JackD42 @Lonewolf112 @frackz @WolfOfRoidStreet @nattybydesign @moreReps21 @JuiceyBrucey007 @zucchini @MrWonderful @leaperfr @MTB @Kevdawg @IronCrusader33 @BritishCanadian @teddy_vio @Kevdawg @wye
Mods following @Shakey: @BeMe @Eddie Haskell @LevButlerov @Mobster @Noah Wixx @Pigsy @s.gentz @stevesmi @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere

 

[jenkemj]

UPDATE for @Shakey

Shakey told me not to write this but I am anyway haha! Shakey is proud and strong and he doesn't need the help but we Canadians rallied for him anyway just so he knows we value him and actually do care about our EVO brothers.

Shakey is being sent some BPC-157 and TB-500 compliments of some EVO Canadians, all of whom wish to go nameless but you know who you are. @wye gets a special thanks as he already posted he would help.

Let's all band together for Shakey and follow his recovery as he continues to enlighten us with his OCD wisdom on random topics we send his brain wandering on and his vampiric late night 4am posts that are a great contribution to EVO.

I'm looking forward to reading how much BPC Shakey can blast in one day! Ain't no grade 2 tear gonna keep this man down!

Canadians: @BeMe @haldencapital @VerticallyChallenged @XxDennxX @Farmboy @JackD42 @Lonewolf112 @frackz @WolfOfRoidStreet @nattybydesign @moreReps21 @JuiceyBrucey007 @zucchini @MrWonderful @leaperfr @MTB @Kevdawg @IronCrusader33 @BritishCanadian @teddy_vio @Kevdawg @wye
Mods following @Shakey: @BeMe @Eddie Haskell @LevButlerov @Mobster @Noah Wixx @Pigsy @s.gentz @stevesmi @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere

That’s the best thing ever! Awesome community spirit on show right here!

 

[LevButlerov]

Im getting around 750mg of boc forn 9mg of glow. So i am lookin at getting some standalone.

if you can get tb500 as well

 

[LevButlerov]

Ill work at it here and there. I got ectra time now. Lol

Yeah, i looked more into rehabing because i doubt ill get quick physio etc.

The plan is to start a rehab cycle, up my test to 250 even and stay there tor 12 weeks or so. Maybe 14 ill bump it up a little bit.

Thursday ill be trying cardio, see whats manageable, speed and duration wise. Ill be doing seated leg lifts for now, so i dont stabilize with my back. Leg ext, leg curls, calf raise.

As for upper body i think ill start at 2 week, with supported machines to isolate muscles. Lighter work so i dont tighten up. Lat rehab between 3-4 weeks, body weight and band work maybe isometrics. Week 6 light duty cable work, full rom slow reps in 25-30 range with 10 reps in reserve each set. I aint taking chances.

Ill assume 12-14weeks full recover until i see an mri or ultrasound.

rehab is a good approach lets do it

 

[Shakey]

UPDATE for @Shakey

Shakey told me not to write this but I am anyway haha! Shakey is proud and strong and he doesn't need the help but we Canadians rallied for him anyway just so he knows we value him and actually do care about our EVO brothers.

Shakey is being sent some BPC-157 and TB-500 compliments of some EVO Canadians, all of whom wish to go nameless but you know who you are. @wye gets a special thanks as he already posted he would help.

Let's all band together for Shakey and follow his recovery as he continues to enlighten us with his OCD wisdom on random topics we send his brain wandering on and his vampiric late night 4am posts that are a great contribution to EVO.

I'm looking forward to reading how much BPC Shakey can blast in one day! Ain't no grade 2 tear gonna keep this man down!

Canadians: @BeMe @haldencapital @VerticallyChallenged @XxDennxX @Farmboy @JackD42 @Lonewolf112 @frackz @WolfOfRoidStreet @nattybydesign @moreReps21 @JuiceyBrucey007 @zucchini @MrWonderful @leaperfr @MTB @Kevdawg @IronCrusader33 @BritishCanadian @teddy_vio @Kevdawg @wye
Mods following @Shakey: @BeMe @Eddie Haskell @LevButlerov @Mobster @Noah Wixx @Pigsy @s.gentz @stevesmi @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere

Thanks @HarleyGuy ,and thanks @wye and the others for helping me out so quickly.

Ill definitely be logging my rehab, so youll read all about me high dosing BPC lol.

As for the next topic, ive already been thinkin of one.

 

[HarleyGuy]

As for the next topic, ive already been thinkin of one.

Oh Lord

 

[Shakey]

if you can get tb500 as well

@wye is sending some as well. Plus my daily in tb500 glow.

rehab is a good approach lets do it

yupp, a conservative timeline and patience as well

 

[waggat]

Ill work at it here and there. I got ectra time now. Lol

Yeah, i looked more into rehabing because i doubt ill get quick physio etc.

The plan is to start a rehab cycle, up my test to 250 even and stay there tor 12 weeks or so. Maybe 14 ill bump it up a little bit.

Thursday ill be trying cardio, see whats manageable, speed and duration wise. Ill be doing seated leg lifts for now, so i dont stabilize with my back. Leg ext, leg curls, calf raise.

As for upper body i think ill start at 2 week, with supported machines to isolate muscles. Lighter work so i dont tighten up. Lat rehab between 3-4 weeks, body weight and band work maybe isometrics. Week 6 light duty cable work, full rom slow reps in 25-30 range with 10 reps in reserve each set. I aint taking chances.

Ill assume 12-14weeks full recover until i see an mri or ultrasound.

Sounds like a good plan with what you can do initially and then working your way into upper body.

 

[Shakey]

Sounds like a good plan with what you can do initially and then working your way into upper body.

Thanks bro, i still have yet to look into rehab exercises but ive got 3 weeks or so.

 

[waggat]

UPDATE for @Shakey

Shakey told me not to write this but I am anyway haha! Shakey is proud and strong and he doesn't need the help but we Canadians rallied for him anyway just so he knows we value him and actually do care about our EVO brothers.

Shakey is being sent some BPC-157 and TB-500 compliments of some EVO Canadians, all of whom wish to go nameless but you know who you are. @wye gets a special thanks as he already posted he would help.

Let's all band together for Shakey and follow his recovery as he continues to enlighten us with his OCD wisdom on random topics we send his brain wandering on and his vampiric late night 4am posts that are a great contribution to EVO.

I'm looking forward to reading how much BPC Shakey can blast in one day! Ain't no grade 2 tear gonna keep this man down!

Canadians: @BeMe @haldencapital @VerticallyChallenged @XxDennxX @Farmboy @JackD42 @Lonewolf112 @frackz @WolfOfRoidStreet @nattybydesign @moreReps21 @JuiceyBrucey007 @zucchini @MrWonderful @leaperfr @MTB @Kevdawg @IronCrusader33 @BritishCanadian @teddy_vio @Kevdawg @wye
Mods following @Shakey: @BeMe @Eddie Haskell @LevButlerov @Mobster @Noah Wixx @Pigsy @s.gentz @stevesmi @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere

That's awesome mate. A big thanks to whoever chipped in and to you for organising it!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Thanks bro, i still have yet to look into rehab exercises but ive got 3 weeks or so.

Oh and we certainly trust you will have an excel spreadsheet with all the top rehab exercises and actually do them all too.... you'll end up doing better for yourself than what a real physio rehab would have done I have no doubt.

 

[Shakey]

Oh and we certainly trust you will have an excel spreadsheet with all the top rehab exercises and actually do them all too.... you'll end up doing better for yourself than what a real physio rehab would have done I have no doubt.

Maybe not that far. Lol

 

[Shakey]

Just a quick update. The naproxen and cyclobenzaprine are helping enough thats is easier to get up from laying down. Fair bit of swelling in the lat. Still pinning 9mg glow daily and i raised gh to 5iu cause vial ended, will raise to 6iu. Every bit counts.

Tomorrow night. Ill try slow treadmill and recumbent bike. See what works best. I should hear from dr. tomorrow about when i can make an appt for. I think i have a home band kit here somewhere, ill look for it at some point.

Not sure what day ill start legs. Ill try using the machines quick tomorrow just to get a feel for my back.

I havent bothered weighing myself or counting macros and basically sleep all day.

 

[wye]

Just a quick update. The naproxen and cyclobenzaprine are helping enough thats is easier to get up from laying down. Fair bit of swelling in the lat. Still pinning 9mg glow daily and i raised gh to 5iu cause vial ended, will raise to 6iu. Every bit counts.

Tomorrow night. Ill try slow treadmill and recumbent bike. See what works best. I should hear from dr. tomorrow about when i can make an appt for. I think i have a home band kit here somewhere, ill look for it at some point.

Not sure what day ill start legs. Ill try using the machines quick tomorrow just to get a feel for my back.

I havent bothered weighing myself or counting macros and basically sleep all day.

Damn Shakey. Hate to see a guy suffering. Hope this shit heals up quickly. Injuries can really mess with a guy mentally not just physically. This is just a momentary blip albeit a damn painful one.

 

[Shakey]

Damn Shakey. Hate to see a guy suffering. Hope this shit heals up quickly. Injuries can really mess with a guy mentally not just physically. This is just a momentary blip albeit a damn painful one.

Itll be a tough couple of weeks for sure. Ill just sleep through em. Lol

 

[LevButlerov]

Just a quick update. The naproxen and cyclobenzaprine are helping enough thats is easier to get up from laying down. Fair bit of swelling in the lat. Still pinning 9mg glow daily and i raised gh to 5iu cause vial ended, will raise to 6iu. Every bit counts.

Tomorrow night. Ill try slow treadmill and recumbent bike. See what works best. I should hear from dr. tomorrow about when i can make an appt for. I think i have a home band kit here somewhere, ill look for it at some point.

Not sure what day ill start legs. Ill try using the machines quick tomorrow just to get a feel for my back.

I havent bothered weighing myself or counting macros and basically sleep all day.

is it like red swollen or normal swelling?

 

[HarleyGuy]

Tomorrow night. Ill try slow treadmill and recumbent bike. See what works best. I should hear from dr. tomorrow about when i can make an appt for. I think i have a home band kit here somewhere, ill look for it at some point.

Not sure what day ill start legs. Ill try using the machines quick tomorrow just to get a feel for my back.

Maybe put your arm in a sling so mentally you know not to even try to use it when at the gym.

 

[Shakey]

is it like red swollen or normal swelling?

Normal swelling

 

[Shakey]

Maybe put your arm in a sling so mentally you know not to even try to use it when at the gym.

Ill look into one

 

[Shakey]

Update
Swelling is a bit worse but i think its stabilizing. A lump forming at the top of lat/below rear delt, i assume where the strands let go as the small deformity doc felt was lower. Lump is solid but squishable, so most likely a deep hematoma, swelling or both.

Family doc got back to me. Got a phone appointment on tuesday as they are probably booked for a few weeks. I mentioned er doctor confirmed gr. 2 and i need imaging to confirm severity.

As for cardio tonight, id say its a 50/50 i go. Got a sling as well.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Update
Swelling is a bit worse but i think its stabilizing. A lump forming at the top of lat/below rear delt, i assume where the strands let go as the small deformity doc felt was lower. Lump is solid but squishable, so most likely a deep hematoma, swelling or both.

Family doc got back to me. Got a phone appointment on tuesday as they are probably booked for a few weeks. I mentioned er doctor confirmed gr. 2 and i need imaging to confirm severity.

As for cardio tonight, id say its a 50/50 i go. Got a sling as well.

Pretty shitty situation bro but keep your head up and get that BPC into ya! No shame is putting off even cardio if it means not moving your upper body at all for another few days.

 

[Shakey]

Pretty shitty situation bro but keep your head up and get that BPC into ya! No shame is putting off even cardio if it means not moving your upper body at all for another few days.

For sure bro

 

[LevButlerov]

Update
Swelling is a bit worse but i think its stabilizing. A lump forming at the top of lat/below rear delt, i assume where the strands let go as the small deformity doc felt was lower. Lump is solid but squishable, so most likely a deep hematoma, swelling or both.

Family doc got back to me. Got a phone appointment on tuesday as they are probably booked for a few weeks. I mentioned er doctor confirmed gr. 2 and i need imaging to confirm severity.

As for cardio tonight, id say its a 50/50 i go. Got a sling as well.

can you throw up a pic of the lump? how bad are we talking about? @Shakey

 

[Shakey]

can you throw up a pic of the lump? how bad are we talking about? @Shakey

Well i say big but i dont think youll be able to see in pic, it more feels big under the skin by touch. More like feeling a massive knot thats stiff but has give. Ya know? Its not increasing anymore so i think its just swelling / deep hematoma at its peek. The burning feeling isnt increasing so thats good.

 

[Kevdawg]

UPDATE for @Shakey

Shakey told me not to write this but I am anyway haha! Shakey is proud and strong and he doesn't need the help but we Canadians rallied for him anyway just so he knows we value him and actually do care about our EVO brothers.

Shakey is being sent some BPC-157 and TB-500 compliments of some EVO Canadians, all of whom wish to go nameless but you know who you are. @wye gets a special thanks as he already posted he would help.

Let's all band together for Shakey and follow his recovery as he continues to enlighten us with his OCD wisdom on random topics we send his brain wandering on and his vampiric late night 4am posts that are a great contribution to EVO.

I'm looking forward to reading how much BPC Shakey can blast in one day! Ain't no grade 2 tear gonna keep this man down!

Canadians: @BeMe @haldencapital @VerticallyChallenged @XxDennxX @Farmboy @JackD42 @Lonewolf112 @frackz @WolfOfRoidStreet @nattybydesign @moreReps21 @JuiceyBrucey007 @zucchini @MrWonderful @leaperfr @MTB @Kevdawg @IronCrusader33 @BritishCanadian @teddy_vio @Kevdawg @wye
Mods following @Shakey: @BeMe @Eddie Haskell @LevButlerov @Mobster @Noah Wixx @Pigsy @s.gentz @stevesmi @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere

You sir are very kind. I wish i could help pitch in but i’ve come across a barrier that impacted my finances and been depressed since. The Gym has been a very big help! @Shakey brother i hope you have a speedy recovery. I will be following this, ill keep you in my prayers my man! Chow for now

 

[Shakey]

You sir are very kind. I wish i could help pitch in but i’ve come across a barrier that impacted my finances and been depressed since. The Gym has been a very big help! @Shakey brother i hope you have a speedy recovery. I will be following this, ill keep you in my prayers my man! Chow for now

Thanks for the well wishs @Kevdawg . I hope its speedy as well. Lol

 

[LevButlerov]

Well i say big but i dont think youll be able to see in pic, it more feels big under the skin by touch. More like feeling a massive knot thats stiff but has give. Ya know? Its not increasing anymore so i think its just swelling / deep hematoma at its peek. The burning feeling isnt increasing so thats good.

EVO family support your way @Shakey i hope it goes down fast

 

[Shakey]

Update
Im going to start tracking macros again today and try some cardio this mornin. Just gotta get back in the gym.

This morning was pretty rough, i mustve forgot the muscle relaxer last night. I had to lay off with the heat pad as well as i burnt myself a bit. Lol

I havent been on EVO much as im not using that arm for anything, just propping the phone up while laying down and typing with that hand hurts somehow.

The pains gone down a bit, but too much movement gives me a burn dowm the lat. Even washing hands or a cup, the slight lat activation burns. So ive mostly been eating healthy choice frozen meals. Yeah i know, not ideal but i live alone and just breathing hurt for a bit. Cooking was out of the question.

 

[BritishCanadian]

Update
Im going to start tracking macros again today and try some cardio this mornin. Just gotta get back in the gym.

This morning was pretty rough, i mustve forgot the muscle relaxer last night. I had to lay off with the heat pad as well as i burnt myself a bit. Lol

I havent been on EVO much as im not using that arm for anything, just propping the phone up while laying down and typing with that hand hurts somehow.

The pains gone down a bit, but too much movement gives me a burn dowm the lat. Even washing hands or a cup, the slight lat activation burns. So ive mostly been eating healthy choice frozen meals. Yeah i know, not ideal but i live alone and just breathing hurt for a bit. Cooking was out of the question.

Have you tried fasting? I remember gsp saying it was perfect for after an injury as it reduces inflammation etc

 

[Shakey]

Have you tried fasting? I remember gsp saying it was perfect for after an injury as it reduces inflammation etc

Not really, id say the swelling has gone down a little now anyways. Im not really into fasting, but i did eat less this week because i basically slept all day and night. Lol

 

[BritishCanadian]

Not really, id say the swelling has gone down a little now anyways. Im not really into fasting, but i did eat less this week because i basically slept all day and night. Lol

Check it out...

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7069085/

 

[BeMe]

Update
Swelling is a bit worse but i think its stabilizing. A lump forming at the top of lat/below rear delt, i assume where the strands let go as the small deformity doc felt was lower. Lump is solid but squishable, so most likely a deep hematoma, swelling or both.

Family doc got back to me. Got a phone appointment on tuesday as they are probably booked for a few weeks. I mentioned er doctor confirmed gr. 2 and i need imaging to confirm severity.

As for cardio tonight, id say its a 50/50 i go. Got a sling as well.

Bro sorry to hear about the lat. That seriously sux.

Can't you hop down to Barrie and go to a walk-in clinic with some diagnostic machines? Or even a hospital?

I can't believe there aren't a ton of doctors out your way considering all the ultra wealthy retirees out there. I woulda thought a bunch of doctors from the city would open up small practices out there to wind down their careers and live on the lake.

 

[Shakey]

Check it out...

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7069085/

Interesting for sure. Better effects to fast the refeed.

 

[Shakey]

Bro sorry to hear about the lat. That seriously sux.

Can't you hop down to Barrie and go to a walk-in clinic with some diagnostic machines? Or even a hospital?

I can't believe there aren't a ton of doctors out your way considering all the ultra wealthy retirees out there. I woulda thought a bunch of doctors from the city would open up small practices out there to wind down their careers and live on the lake.

I did go to the ER, they wouldnt do imaging because it wasnt an emergency they said. I have a phone appointment with my fam doc in tuesday.

The after hrs clinic here dont really care, last time they thought i had a tear, it took months for an ultrasound because there was only one person in town qualified for musculoskeletal injuries and it wasnt an emergency.

A walk-in clinic that has imaging? Never ueard of one with their own imaging before. There is lots of doctors, but not specialists, although i can probably see a sports doc intown here. But to get an ultrasound in barrie or mri here, semi fast, ill probably need my fam doc. So ill have to wait for tuesday.

 

[Shakey]

Ive been up and moving around today. Going to give it another day before light cardio. Im in no rush. Lol. Even if i want to go.

 

[LevButlerov]

Update
Im going to start tracking macros again today and try some cardio this mornin. Just gotta get back in the gym.

This morning was pretty rough, i mustve forgot the muscle relaxer last night. I had to lay off with the heat pad as well as i burnt myself a bit. Lol

I havent been on EVO much as im not using that arm for anything, just propping the phone up while laying down and typing with that hand hurts somehow.

The pains gone down a bit, but too much movement gives me a burn dowm the lat. Even washing hands or a cup, the slight lat activation burns. So ive mostly been eating healthy choice frozen meals. Yeah i know, not ideal but i live alone and just breathing hurt for a bit. Cooking was out of the question.

Good to see you back in the EVO family @Shakey dont rush into the cardio and training just go slow
start with tracking macros that will help a lot

Ive been up and moving around today. Going to give it another day before light cardio. Im in no rush. Lol. Even if i want to go.

 

[LevButlerov]

I havent been on EVO much as im not using that arm for anything, just propping the phone up while laying down and typing with that hand hurts somehow.

are you able to use speech to text?

 

[Shakey]

are you able to use speech to text?

Itll still be a pain as ill constantly keep using that side to help press buttons other than typing. Best i stick to tv and not use phone much.

 

[LevButlerov]

Itll still be a pain as ill constantly keep using that side to help press buttons other than typing. Best i stick to tv and not use phone much.

i see i hope you get well soon EVO family support love your way

 

[Shakey]

i see i hope you get well soon EVO family support love your way

Ill jump on evo a little here and there. Thanks bro.

I hope tomorrow is a bit better, id like to get atleast some walking in, myabe ill just do the neighbour hood.

 

[Shakey]

3/22/26
Update: Pain and sweling had stabilized yesterday but today the pain was a bit worse and sharp, perhaps i moved in my sleep wrong. As for swelling, still feels a bit like a permanent pump or a balloon in my armpit. I can see the whole lat is swollen compared to the other side in mirror from the front. Its not increasing though, so thats good.

I looked into @BeMe's idea and found an urgent care clinic in barrie. Theres an imaging place that doesnt sports injuries in the same building. We will see what my doc says on tues, if they wont give me a requisition to walk into a clinic in barrie, ill bus down my self. Itll be painful ill bet.

Never got to the gym, no rush. Ill try tomorrow as it just depends on what shape im in. If im in good shape, ill start my rehab cycle tomorrow. 250mg sust and 20mg anavar preworkout. Since im already at 234.5mg, im only upping test 15.5mg lol. I wont go any higher til im fully recovered around 14 weeks or so.

Misjudging my recovery would be a fatal mistake. When im fully recovered, ill bump up the test and var , but as for how high thats undecided. Itll most likely be lower than the initial plan of 500mg weekly.

Ran out of creatine and whey powder til the end of month. Currently drinking this disgusting vega B.S. i got for free. I have to mix it with mass gainer to make it edible. Do people actually drink this?

As for my diet, i imagine a scolding is en route for im eating healthy choice frozen meals, but they will have to do, any lat activation on my right side burns. Cooking is semi off table. Going to thaw out some chickens tomoro and try to air fry one handed all in a row and i wont be able to clean air fryer afterwords.

Long ass update, but thats where im at. Side note, abs becoming visible in mirror in a relaxed state.
Gear
Test E 67mg EOD
Peptides
Reta 5mg weekly
GLOW 12mg split AM/PM - increased to the max for BPC and TB content short term unyil standalones arrive.
(1mg BPC/2mg TB/9mg GHK)
HGH 6iu PM - raised to 6iu to get any benefit i can out of it, even if 4iu is enough for iniuries.
NAD+ 25mg AM
MOTS-c 1mg AM
Rx Medications
Lamotrigine - 75mg twice daily
Divalproex - 500mg AM / 750mg PM
Supps
6 Multivitamin - Split AM/PM
1500mg Glucosamine - Split AM/PM
2 Digestive Enzymes - Split AM/PM
4g Fish Oil (EPA720mg/DHA480mg) - Split AM/PM
500mcg Vitamin D + K2 200mcg E3D
2g Vitamin C - Split AM/PM
2.4mg Vitamin B12 - Split AM/PM
50 mg Lutien - Split AM/PM
500mg Milk Thistle - Split AM/PM
20mg Melatonin - PM
24g Psyllium Husk - Split AM/PM
5g Creatine - ran out, will buy more for next month

 

[HarleyGuy]

3/22/26
Update: Pain and sweling had stabilized yesterday but today the pain was a bit worse and sharp, perhaps i moved in my sleep wrong. As for swelling, still feels a bit like a permanent pump or a balloon in my armpit. I can see the whole lat is swollen compared to the other side in mirror from the front. Its not increasing though, so thats good.

I looked into @BeMe's idea and found an urgent care clinic in barrie. Theres an imaging place that doesnt sports injuries in the same building. We will see what my doc says on tues, if they wont give me a requisition to walk into a clinic in barrie, ill bus down my self. Itll be painful ill bet.

Never got to the gym, no rush. Ill try tomorrow as it just depends on what shape im in. If im in good shape, ill start my rehab cycle tomorrow. 250mg sust and 20mg anavar preworkout. Since im already at 234.5mg, im only upping test 15.5mg lol. I wont go any higher til im fully recovered around 14 weeks or so.

Misjudging my recovery would be a fatal mistake. When im fully recovered, ill bump up the test and var , but as for how high thats undecided. Itll most likely be lower than the initial plan of 500mg weekly.

Ran out of creatine and whey powder til the end of month. Currently drinking this disgusting vega B.S. i got for free. I have to mix it with mass gainer to make it edible. Do people actually drink this?

As for my diet, i imagine a scolding is en route for im eating healthy choice frozen meals, but they will have to do, any lat activation on my right side burns. Cooking is semi off table. Going to thaw out some chickens tomoro and try to air fry one handed all in a row and i wont be able to clean air fryer afterwords.

Long ass update, but thats where im at. Side note, abs becoming visible in mirror in a relaxed state.
Gear
Test E 67mg EOD
Peptides
Reta 5mg weekly
GLOW 12mg split AM/PM - increased to the max for BPC and TB content short term unyil standalones arrive.
(1mg BPC/2mg TB/9mg GHK)
HGH 6iu PM - raised to 6iu to get any benefit i can out of it, even if 4iu is enough for iniuries.
NAD+ 25mg AM
MOTS-c 1mg AM
Rx Medications
Lamotrigine - 75mg twice daily
Divalproex - 500mg AM / 750mg PM
Supps
6 Multivitamin - Split AM/PM
1500mg Glucosamine - Split AM/PM
2 Digestive Enzymes - Split AM/PM
4g Fish Oil (EPA720mg/DHA480mg) - Split AM/PM
500mcg Vitamin D + K2 200mcg E3D
2g Vitamin C - Split AM/PM
2.4mg Vitamin B12 - Split AM/PM
50 mg Lutien - Split AM/PM
500mg Milk Thistle - Split AM/PM
20mg Melatonin - PM
24g Psyllium Husk - Split AM/PM
5g Creatine - ran out, will buy more for next month
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Look at you, visible abs relaxed and just under 185lbs... that's solid bro!

Long ass update, but thats where im at.

Keep these coming... we got you man.

Side note, abs becoming visible in mirror in a relaxed state.

Hot stuff!

i imagine a scolding is en route for im eating healthy choice frozen meals, but they will have to do, any lat activation on my right side burns.

Do what you gotta do to get by for now bro.

Going to thaw out some chickens tomoro and try to air fry one handed all in a row and i wont be able to clean air fryer afterwords.

Haha do it dirty!

Never got to the gym, no rush. Ill try tomorrow

I'd hold off for another few days based on your reporting. There'll be no way to avoid worsening it with the movement needed at the gym, just opening the gym door and changing, etc.

Do people actually drink this?

No LOL. Well, the soy boys probably do.

As for swelling, still feels a bit like a permanent pump or a balloon in my armpit. I can see the whole lat is swollen compared to the other side in mirror from the front. Its not increasing though, so thats good.

When you messaged me right after this happened this is what I was worried about... we'll have to treat this like a long term injury and go real slow for 4-6 weeks man, and beyond. Don't shoot the messenger.

 

[Shakey]

Look at you, visible abs relaxed and just under 185lbs... that's solid bro

Its only an outline but first time in decades.

Do what you gotta do to get by for now bro.


Haha do it dirty!

The fam came through with groceries delivered from costco. Some not diet friendly optins, but i could care less. Ill eat whatever is easy to make with 1 hand. Lol

I'd hold off for another few days based on your reporting. There'll be no way to avoid worsening it with the movement needed at the gym, just opening the gym door and changing, etc.


No LOL. Well, the soy boys probably do.


When you messaged me right after this happened this is what I was worried about... we'll have to treat this like a long term injury and go real slow for 4-6 weeks man, and beyond. Don't shoot the messenger.

Im glad i decided to just go for a walk instead. Got sore 12mins into walk. Didnt realize how much slight lat activation there is in just walking. If i had if walked to gym, i woukd uber back before going inside the gym.

I think itll be light cardio for another week before i try light leg work. Ill try the machines in a few days as a test.

 

[LevButlerov]

Ill jump on evo a little here and there. Thanks bro.

I hope tomorrow is a bit better, id like to get atleast some walking in, myabe ill just do the neighbour hood.

hope better each day

 

[LevButlerov]

3/22/26
Update: Pain and sweling had stabilized yesterday but today the pain was a bit worse and sharp, perhaps i moved in my sleep wrong. As for swelling, still feels a bit like a permanent pump or a balloon in my armpit. I can see the whole lat is swollen compared to the other side in mirror from the front. Its not increasing though, so thats good.

I looked into @BeMe's idea and found an urgent care clinic in barrie. Theres an imaging place that doesnt sports injuries in the same building. We will see what my doc says on tues, if they wont give me a requisition to walk into a clinic in barrie, ill bus down my self. Itll be painful ill bet.

Never got to the gym, no rush. Ill try tomorrow as it just depends on what shape im in. If im in good shape, ill start my rehab cycle tomorrow. 250mg sust and 20mg anavar preworkout. Since im already at 234.5mg, im only upping test 15.5mg lol. I wont go any higher til im fully recovered around 14 weeks or so.

Misjudging my recovery would be a fatal mistake. When im fully recovered, ill bump up the test and var , but as for how high thats undecided. Itll most likely be lower than the initial plan of 500mg weekly.

Ran out of creatine and whey powder til the end of month. Currently drinking this disgusting vega B.S. i got for free. I have to mix it with mass gainer to make it edible. Do people actually drink this?

As for my diet, i imagine a scolding is en route for im eating healthy choice frozen meals, but they will have to do, any lat activation on my right side burns. Cooking is semi off table. Going to thaw out some chickens tomoro and try to air fry one handed all in a row and i wont be able to clean air fryer afterwords.

Long ass update, but thats where im at. Side note, abs becoming visible in mirror in a relaxed state.
Gear
Test E 67mg EOD
Peptides
Reta 5mg weekly
GLOW 12mg split AM/PM - increased to the max for BPC and TB content short term unyil standalones arrive.
(1mg BPC/2mg TB/9mg GHK)
HGH 6iu PM - raised to 6iu to get any benefit i can out of it, even if 4iu is enough for iniuries.
NAD+ 25mg AM
MOTS-c 1mg AM
Rx Medications
Lamotrigine - 75mg twice daily
Divalproex - 500mg AM / 750mg PM
Supps
6 Multivitamin - Split AM/PM
1500mg Glucosamine - Split AM/PM
2 Digestive Enzymes - Split AM/PM
4g Fish Oil (EPA720mg/DHA480mg) - Split AM/PM
500mcg Vitamin D + K2 200mcg E3D
2g Vitamin C - Split AM/PM
2.4mg Vitamin B12 - Split AM/PM
50 mg Lutien - Split AM/PM
500mg Milk Thistle - Split AM/PM
20mg Melatonin - PM
24g Psyllium Husk - Split AM/PM
5g Creatine - ran out, will buy more for next month
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good to see you back trying @Shakey EVO family support! just careful i really hope you dont get injury again

and love the ab talk thats a win!

@HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki
@waggat @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67 @codezz @Yuri
@MarkNV @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy @Shakey @Eveflorence

 

[Shakey]

good to see you back trying @Shakey EVO family support! just careful i really hope you dont get injury again

and love the ab talk thats a win!

@HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki
@waggat @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67 @codezz @Yuri
@MarkNV @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy @Shakey @Eveflorence

Glad i didnt go to gym and just walked around the area here. I undrestimated how much slight activation you get in the lat during just walking. I was sore in 12 mins, took a break at 23 min and finished a total of 36min.

If i had of walked to gym, id probably uber back. Lol

I might be another week before trying to touch legs. Slow cardio every day for the next week. Id rather be patient. Going 5o aim for multiple small walks a day.

 

[Dreamer]

3/22/26
Update: Pain and sweling had stabilized yesterday but today the pain was a bit worse and sharp, perhaps i moved in my sleep wrong. As for swelling, still feels a bit like a permanent pump or a balloon in my armpit. I can see the whole lat is swollen compared to the other side in mirror from the front. Its not increasing though, so thats good.

I looked into @BeMe's idea and found an urgent care clinic in barrie. Theres an imaging place that doesnt sports injuries in the same building. We will see what my doc says on tues, if they wont give me a requisition to walk into a clinic in barrie, ill bus down my self. Itll be painful ill bet.

Never got to the gym, no rush. Ill try tomorrow as it just depends on what shape im in. If im in good shape, ill start my rehab cycle tomorrow. 250mg sust and 20mg anavar preworkout. Since im already at 234.5mg, im only upping test 15.5mg lol. I wont go any higher til im fully recovered around 14 weeks or so.

Misjudging my recovery would be a fatal mistake. When im fully recovered, ill bump up the test and var , but as for how high thats undecided. Itll most likely be lower than the initial plan of 500mg weekly.

Ran out of creatine and whey powder til the end of month. Currently drinking this disgusting vega B.S. i got for free. I have to mix it with mass gainer to make it edible. Do people actually drink this?

As for my diet, i imagine a scolding is en route for im eating healthy choice frozen meals, but they will have to do, any lat activation on my right side burns. Cooking is semi off table. Going to thaw out some chickens tomoro and try to air fry one handed all in a row and i wont be able to clean air fryer afterwords.

Long ass update, but thats where im at. Side note, abs becoming visible in mirror in a relaxed state.
Gear
Test E 67mg EOD
Peptides
Reta 5mg weekly
GLOW 12mg split AM/PM - increased to the max for BPC and TB content short term unyil standalones arrive.
(1mg BPC/2mg TB/9mg GHK)
HGH 6iu PM - raised to 6iu to get any benefit i can out of it, even if 4iu is enough for iniuries.
NAD+ 25mg AM
MOTS-c 1mg AM
Rx Medications
Lamotrigine - 75mg twice daily
Divalproex - 500mg AM / 750mg PM
Supps
6 Multivitamin - Split AM/PM
1500mg Glucosamine - Split AM/PM
2 Digestive Enzymes - Split AM/PM
4g Fish Oil (EPA720mg/DHA480mg) - Split AM/PM
500mcg Vitamin D + K2 200mcg E3D
2g Vitamin C - Split AM/PM
2.4mg Vitamin B12 - Split AM/PM
50 mg Lutien - Split AM/PM
500mg Milk Thistle - Split AM/PM
20mg Melatonin - PM
24g Psyllium Husk - Split AM/PM
5g Creatine - ran out, will buy more for next month
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Take care brother, the last thing you want to do is make the injury worse, 12mg of klow is a hefty dose, hopefully helps out.

 

[Shakey]

Take care brother, the last thing you want to do is make the injury worse, 12mg of klow is a hefty dose, hopefully helps out.

Thanks brother. Id rather pump what i can into it while its 100% needed for recovery. No sense in spreading it out. Ya, hopefully it does the job.

 

[LevButlerov]

Glad i didnt go to gym and just walked around the area here. I undrestimated how much slight activation you get in the lat during just walking. I was sore in 12 mins, took a break at 23 min and finished a total of 36min.

If i had of walked to gym, id probably uber back. Lol

I might be another week before trying to touch legs. Slow cardio every day for the next week. Id rather be patient. Going 5o aim for multiple small walks a day.

take tiem to recover, do more cardio and walking @Shakey stretches, take time patient as your body recovers

 

[Shakey]

take tiem to recover, do more cardio and walking @Shakey stretches, take time patient as your body recovers

I think ill save light stretching for a bit. Burns if i use it.

 

[LevButlerov]

I think ill save light stretching for a bit. Burns if i use it.

ok go slow please

 

[BeMe]

I did go to the ER, they wouldnt do imaging because it wasnt an emergency they said. I have a phone appointment with my fam doc in tuesday.

The after hrs clinic here dont really care, last time they thought i had a tear, it took months for an ultrasound because there was only one person in town qualified for musculoskeletal injuries and it wasnt an emergency.

A walk-in clinic that has imaging? Never ueard of one with their own imaging before. There is lots of doctors, but not specialists, although i can probably see a sports doc intown here. But to get an ultrasound in barrie or mri here, semi fast, ill probably need my fam doc. So ill have to wait for tuesday.

Ya bro I got an ultrasound at a walk-in here in Toronto before. Barrie is a pretty big city so I woulda thought they might have clinics with them too.

Our medical system is so fucked. If you're not old and dying you just get pushed to the bottom of the list.

Hopefully your family doc can get you in somewhere quick. It would be good to know exactly what you're dealing with so you can get on a proper treatment plan.

 

[BeeDOG1985]

Thanks @LevButlerov


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you should be a lot leaner before even considering gear. Especially testosterone. Unless your just taking it bc you have naturally low t.

 

[wye]

Ya bro I got an ultrasound at a walk-in here in Toronto before. Barrie is a pretty big city so I woulda thought they might have clinics with them too.

Our medical system is so fucked. If you're not old and dying you just get pushed to the bottom of the list.

Hopefully your family doc can get you in somewhere quick. It would be good to know exactly what you're dealing with so you can get on a proper treatment plan.

Yeah, the system is definitely getting fucked thanks to mass influx of immigrants who haven't invested anything in the system getting to use it and exactly 0 new hospitals built. Really grinds my gears, I pay almost 90k a year in taxes and get shit public services across the board. I'd love for the government to subsidize education for top tier physician candidates and critical infrastructure like they subsidize asylum seekers and Ukraine.

 

[wye]

you should be a lot leaner before even considering gear. Especially testosterone. Unless your just taking it bc you have naturally low t.

I'm pretty sure Shakey has majorly leaned out if you read further into it outside of first post, but great post, welcome to Evo.

 

[BeeDOG1985]

Running 400 test at his bf % makes no sense at all. Yeah maybe a low dose like 100-250 to cut depending on natural t levels.

 

[wye]

Running 400 test at his bf % makes no sense at all. Yeah maybe a low dose like 100-250 to cut depending on natural t levels.

I understand what you’re saying but you’re basing that off of photos from when he was seeking advice. I’m confident his body fat is lower now, and his cycle plans have also changed. There is 15 pages of log and advice given here by really knowledgeable guys.

 

[waggat]

3/22/26
Update: Pain and sweling had stabilized yesterday but today the pain was a bit worse and sharp, perhaps i moved in my sleep wrong. As for swelling, still feels a bit like a permanent pump or a balloon in my armpit. I can see the whole lat is swollen compared to the other side in mirror from the front. Its not increasing though, so thats good.

I looked into @BeMe's idea and found an urgent care clinic in barrie. Theres an imaging place that doesnt sports injuries in the same building. We will see what my doc says on tues, if they wont give me a requisition to walk into a clinic in barrie, ill bus down my self. Itll be painful ill bet.

Never got to the gym, no rush. Ill try tomorrow as it just depends on what shape im in. If im in good shape, ill start my rehab cycle tomorrow. 250mg sust and 20mg anavar preworkout. Since im already at 234.5mg, im only upping test 15.5mg lol. I wont go any higher til im fully recovered around 14 weeks or so.

Misjudging my recovery would be a fatal mistake. When im fully recovered, ill bump up the test and var , but as for how high thats undecided. Itll most likely be lower than the initial plan of 500mg weekly.

Ran out of creatine and whey powder til the end of month. Currently drinking this disgusting vega B.S. i got for free. I have to mix it with mass gainer to make it edible. Do people actually drink this?

As for my diet, i imagine a scolding is en route for im eating healthy choice frozen meals, but they will have to do, any lat activation on my right side burns. Cooking is semi off table. Going to thaw out some chickens tomoro and try to air fry one handed all in a row and i wont be able to clean air fryer afterwords.

Long ass update, but thats where im at. Side note, abs becoming visible in mirror in a relaxed state.
Gear
Test E 67mg EOD
Peptides
Reta 5mg weekly
GLOW 12mg split AM/PM - increased to the max for BPC and TB content short term unyil standalones arrive.
(1mg BPC/2mg TB/9mg GHK)
HGH 6iu PM - raised to 6iu to get any benefit i can out of it, even if 4iu is enough for iniuries.
NAD+ 25mg AM
MOTS-c 1mg AM
Rx Medications
Lamotrigine - 75mg twice daily
Divalproex - 500mg AM / 750mg PM
Supps
6 Multivitamin - Split AM/PM
1500mg Glucosamine - Split AM/PM
2 Digestive Enzymes - Split AM/PM
4g Fish Oil (EPA720mg/DHA480mg) - Split AM/PM
500mcg Vitamin D + K2 200mcg E3D
2g Vitamin C - Split AM/PM
2.4mg Vitamin B12 - Split AM/PM
50 mg Lutien - Split AM/PM
500mg Milk Thistle - Split AM/PM
20mg Melatonin - PM
24g Psyllium Husk - Split AM/PM
5g Creatine - ran out, will buy more for next month
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Hopefully you can get into clinic mate.

Is the vegan protein rice or pea or something? They can be really gritty hey.

 

[LevButlerov]

you should be a lot leaner before even considering gear. Especially testosterone. Unless your just taking it bc you have naturally low t.

I disagree. You are posting out of context @BeeDOG1985 there are over 2000 posts with @Shakey please see whole history first

 

[Shakey]

ok go slow please

I most deffinitely will. No sense in pushing myself.

 

[Shakey]

Ya bro I got an ultrasound at a walk-in here in Toronto before. Barrie is a pretty big city so I woulda thought they might have clinics with them too.

Our medical system is so fucked. If you're not old and dying you just get pushed to the bottom of the list.

Hopefully your family doc can get you in somewhere quick. It would be good to know exactly what you're dealing with so you can get on a proper treatment plan.

I found 1 building that has both a clinic and can do msk ultrasounds. So we will see what the doc says. If he wont give me a req so i can do a walk in ultrasound in barrie, ill go to a clinic that will. Althiugh he will be charged by ohip for it. Lol

 

[BeeDOG1985]

I disagree. You are posting out of context @BeeDOG1985 there are over 2000 posts with @Shakey please see whole history first

Will do brotha

 

[Shakey]

you should be a lot leaner before even considering gear. Especially testosterone. Unless your just taking it bc you have naturally low t.

Running 400 test at his bf % makes no sense at all. Yeah maybe a low dose like 100-250 to cut depending on natural t levels.

That first post was around 4-5 months ago. At 30% bf. I took advice to run a GLP first to cut before thinking about a cycle. i havent bothered to check but i should be around 17% +/-, who knows.

I started TRT pre-cycle (in feb) because test was low. I had since changed my cycle planning up until i tore my lat (grade 2) last monday, which ive now shifted to a rehab cycle.

Started today actually, im only running 250mg sust and 20mg var as of now, any more and ill misjudge my own recovery. Ill be rehabing over 12ish weeks. I may bump it up a little bit at 14 weeks, but thatll be decided after full recovery.

Yes my original plan for my very first cycle wasnt good, its the reason i started the log, to ask for advice. Theres been lots of adjustments here and there, ive even completely abandoned my weight goals after gaining 9lbs from GH and TRT+ and the torn lat. Figured good as time as any to start it with rehab.

Theres lots of my log to read if you want or just check out the last couple of pages to see where im at.

 

[Shakey]

I’m confident his body fat is lower now, and his cycle plans have also changed.

Thanks bro, i think im somewhere around 17%, but not sure. The dexa was going to tell me, but i aint doing 6hrs of public transit for a 10min scan with a messed up lat.

 

[Shakey]

Hopefully you can get into clinic mate.

Is the vegan protein rice or pea or something? They can be really gritty hey.

Yeah bro, in crossing my fingers my doc takes this seriously. Last time they though i tore something (was calcium deposits in my triceps shredding muscle while lifting) it took like 2-3 months for an ultrasound.

Turns out a previous seizure med inhibited calcium absorbtion or something (cant remember) so it built up oddly enough in both triceps. Id get bruising every push day lol.

 

[Shakey]

3/22/26
Rehab Cycle Week 1 Day 1
Update: Felt better today but still sleeping lots while recovering so i mossed the buses to the gym as they only run til 415pm on sunday. Im glad that i only went for a walk though, if i had to walk home from gym id be a wreck. 12 mins into walkin and my lat liwer diwn in back started hurting.

Took a break at 23mins and a cousins house brefore heading back home. Completely underestimate micro activation in the lat while walking. Will continue cardio only for the next week probably. Ill try for 1-2 walks a day/treadmill if i get to the gym.

Family pulled through and dropped a costco order off with easy to make stuff with one hand. Though there are some non-diet friendly options like double choclate muffins and a box of taquitos, thats fine as ive started the rehab cycle. Some non "healthy" options wont kill me. My diet was ass today anyways. We all know im not very strict on diet.

Ive switched 6iu GH PM dose to 3iu AM/PM dosing as i did get a little bit tingly in the hands. Ill drop to 5iu if need be after the first few weeks of recovery. Id rather my lat gets all the help it needs.

Will be keeping rehab cycle at 250mg sust and 20mg var. Will not exceed this til week 14 to prevent misjudging my recovery progress.
Gear
Sustanon 71.5mg EOD - swapped in place of test e and added 15.5mg weekly to hit 250mg, pin volume is compensated for avg dead space of my pins for 250mg precise.
Anavar 20mg preworkout/cardio - added in on rehab cycle, will run for approx 7 weeks
Peptides
Reta 5mg weekly - will stick to 5mg for now, will consider halving dose after further BF reduction
GLOW 12mg split AM/PM
(1mg BPC/2mg TB/9mg GHK)
HGH 6iu split AM/PM - spit dosing to reduce tingly in hands
NAD+ 25mg AM
MOTS-c 1mg AM
Rx Medications
Lamotrigine - 75mg twice daily
Divalproex - 500mg AM / 750mg PM
Supps
6 Multivitamin - Split AM/PM
1500mg Glucosamine - Split AM/PM
2 Digestive Enzymes - Split AM/PM
4g Fish Oil (EPA720mg/DHA480mg) - Split AM/PM
500mcg Vitamin D + K2 200mcg E3D
2g Vitamin C - Split AM/PM
2.4mg Vitamin B12 - Split AM/PM
50 mg Lutien - Split AM/PM
500mg Milk Thistle - Split AM/PM
20mg Melatonin
24g Psyllium Husk - Split AM/PM
10g Creatine - Split AM/PM

 

[LevButlerov]

3/22/26
Rehab Cycle Week 1 Day 1
Update: Felt better today but still sleeping lots while recovering so i mossed the buses to the gym as they only run til 415pm on sunday. Im glad that i only went for a walk though, if i had to walk home from gym id be a wreck. 12 mins into walkin and my lat liwer diwn in back started hurting.

Took a break at 23mins and a cousins house brefore heading back home. Completely underestimate micro activation in the lat while walking. Will continue cardio only for the next week probably. Ill try for 1-2 walks a day/treadmill if i get to the gym.

Family pulled through and dropped a costco order off with easy to make stuff with one hand. Though there are some non-diet friendly options like double choclate muffins and a box of taquitos, thats fine as ive started the rehab cycle. Some non "healthy" options wont kill me. My diet was ass today anyways. We all know im not very strict on diet.

Ive switched 6iu GH PM dose to 3iu AM/PM dosing as i did get a little bit tingly in the hands. Ill drop to 5iu if need be after the first few weeks of recovery. Id rather my lat gets all the help it needs.

Will be keeping rehab cycle at 250mg sust and 20mg var. Will not exceed this til week 14 to prevent misjudging my recovery progress.
Gear
Sustanon 71.5mg EOD - swapped in place of test e and added 15.5mg weekly to hit 250mg, pin volume is compensated for avg dead space of my pins for 250mg precise.
Anavar 20mg preworkout/cardio - added in on rehab cycle, will run for approx 7 weeks
Peptides
Reta 5mg weekly - will stick to 5mg for now, will consider halving dose after further BF reduction
GLOW 12mg split AM/PM
(1mg BPC/2mg TB/9mg GHK)
HGH 6iu split AM/PM - spit dosing to reduce tingly in hands
NAD+ 25mg AM
MOTS-c 1mg AM
Rx Medications
Lamotrigine - 75mg twice daily
Divalproex - 500mg AM / 750mg PM
Supps
6 Multivitamin - Split AM/PM
1500mg Glucosamine - Split AM/PM
2 Digestive Enzymes - Split AM/PM
4g Fish Oil (EPA720mg/DHA480mg) - Split AM/PM
500mcg Vitamin D + K2 200mcg E3D
2g Vitamin C - Split AM/PM
2.4mg Vitamin B12 - Split AM/PM
50 mg Lutien - Split AM/PM
500mg Milk Thistle - Split AM/PM
20mg Melatonin
24g Psyllium Husk - Split AM/PM
10g Creatine - Split AM/PM
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sustanon and anavar will be the 2 to watch lets see it

 

[LevButlerov]

I most deffinitely will. No sense in pushing myself.

for sure

 

[Shakey]

sustanon and anavar will be the 2 to watch lets see it

Yupp, just enough for recovery benefits and thats it. Rehab focus only. Thats the mission.

 

[HarleyGuy]

That first post was around 4-5 months ago. At 30% bf. I took advice to run a GLP first to cut before thinking about a cycle. i havent bothered to check but i should be around 17% +/-, who knows.

I started TRT pre-cycle (in feb) because test was low. I had since changed my cycle planning up until i tore my lat (grade 2) last monday, which ive now shifted to a rehab cycle.

Started today actually, im only running 250mg sust and 20mg var as of now, any more and ill misjudge my own recovery. Ill be rehabing over 12ish weeks. I may bump it up a little bit at 14 weeks, but thatll be decided after full recovery.

Yes my original plan for my very first cycle wasnt good, its the reason i started the log, to ask for advice. Theres been lots of adjustments here and there, ive even completely abandoned my weight goals after gaining 9lbs from GH and TRT+ and the torn lat. Figured good as time as any to start it with rehab.

Theres lots of my log to read if you want or just check out the last couple of pages to see where im at.

Great summary of your long 5 month plan to get to where you are today. Not only is @BeeDOG1985 making incorrect statements (even in general incorrect) but your log contains the answers to his concerns had he read it.

I actually didn't know you had been hitting it this hard for so long to get to where you are today, kudos to you brother and man does time ever fly eh?

 

[HarleyGuy]

3/22/26
Rehab Cycle Week 1 Day 1
Update: Felt better today but still sleeping lots while recovering so i mossed the buses to the gym as they only run til 415pm on sunday. Im glad that i only went for a walk though, if i had to walk home from gym id be a wreck. 12 mins into walkin and my lat liwer diwn in back started hurting.

Took a break at 23mins and a cousins house brefore heading back home. Completely underestimate micro activation in the lat while walking. Will continue cardio only for the next week probably. Ill try for 1-2 walks a day/treadmill if i get to the gym.

Family pulled through and dropped a costco order off with easy to make stuff with one hand. Though there are some non-diet friendly options like double choclate muffins and a box of taquitos, thats fine as ive started the rehab cycle. Some non "healthy" options wont kill me. My diet was ass today anyways. We all know im not very strict on diet.

Ive switched 6iu GH PM dose to 3iu AM/PM dosing as i did get a little bit tingly in the hands. Ill drop to 5iu if need be after the first few weeks of recovery. Id rather my lat gets all the help it needs.

Will be keeping rehab cycle at 250mg sust and 20mg var. Will not exceed this til week 14 to prevent misjudging my recovery progress.
Gear
Sustanon 71.5mg EOD - swapped in place of test e and added 15.5mg weekly to hit 250mg, pin volume is compensated for avg dead space of my pins for 250mg precise.
Anavar 20mg preworkout/cardio - added in on rehab cycle, will run for approx 7 weeks
Peptides
Reta 5mg weekly - will stick to 5mg for now, will consider halving dose after further BF reduction
GLOW 12mg split AM/PM
(1mg BPC/2mg TB/9mg GHK)
HGH 6iu split AM/PM - spit dosing to reduce tingly in hands
NAD+ 25mg AM
MOTS-c 1mg AM
Rx Medications
Lamotrigine - 75mg twice daily
Divalproex - 500mg AM / 750mg PM
Supps
6 Multivitamin - Split AM/PM
1500mg Glucosamine - Split AM/PM
2 Digestive Enzymes - Split AM/PM
4g Fish Oil (EPA720mg/DHA480mg) - Split AM/PM
500mcg Vitamin D + K2 200mcg E3D
2g Vitamin C - Split AM/PM
2.4mg Vitamin B12 - Split AM/PM
50 mg Lutien - Split AM/PM
500mg Milk Thistle - Split AM/PM
20mg Melatonin
24g Psyllium Husk - Split AM/PM
10g Creatine - Split AM/PM
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Great update and especially typing with one hand . Sorry, too soon? LOL

spit dosing to reduce tingly in hands

Let us know if this works, I'd be curious

swapped in place of test e and added 15.5mg weekly to hit 250mg, pin volume is compensated for avg dead space of my pins for 250mg precise.

Mmmm avg dead space, yum. I prefer to overdose

Some non "healthy" options wont kill me. My diet was ass today anyways. We all know im not very strict on diet.

Insert @stevesmi to the rescue here!

 

[HarleyGuy]

@Shakey let us know the instant you hang up with the doc tomorrow what the prognosis is!

 

[Shakey]

Great summary of your long 5 month plan to get to where you are today. Not only is @BeeDOG1985 making incorrect statements (even in general incorrect) but your log contains the answers to his concerns had he read it.

I actually didn't know you had been hitting it this hard for so long to get to where you are today, kudos to you brother and man does time ever fly eh?

Yeah bro, hard to believe its already been around that long.

Great update and especially typing with one hand . Sorry, too soon? LOL


Let us know if this works, I'd be curious


Mmmm avg dead space, yum. I prefer to overdose


Insert @stevesmi to the rescue here!

ive been getting lots of left hand experience. Lol

I pinned 3iu this morning half asleep, i was supposed to start 3iu tonight. Lol. I should know in 2 days or so.

Who doesnt love overdosing? Alas i must be precise, less i hurt myself again. I must already have to much raw power fir my body to handle.

Ah, so youve summoned @stevesmi to scold me eh?

@Shakey let us know the instant you hang up with the doc tomorrow what the prognosis is!

Will do sir bossman sir

 

[wye]

Yeah bro, hard to believe its already been around that long.

ive been getting lots of left hand experience. Lol

I pinned 3iu this morning half asleep, i was supposed to start 3iu tonight. Lol. I should know in 2 days or so.

Who doesnt love overdosing? Alas i must be precise, less i hurt myself again. I must already have to much raw power fir my body to handle.

Ah, so youve summoned @stevesmi to scold me eh?

Will do sir bossman sir

So you’re saying you can jag off left handed now?

 

[HarleyGuy]

So you’re saying you can jag off left handed now?

It appears it's been done!

 

[HarleyGuy]

ive been getting lots of left hand experience. Lol

Ah, so youve summoned @stevesmi to scold me eh?

You're in for it now!

 

[Shakey]

So you’re saying you can jag off left handed now?

It appears it's been done!

You could say im quite ambidextrous now a days.

 

[LevButlerov]

Yupp, just enough for recovery benefits and thats it. Rehab focus only. Thats the mission.

perfect you making the smart moves

 

[BeMe]

Yeah, the system is definitely getting fucked thanks to mass influx of immigrants who haven't invested anything in the system getting to use it and exactly 0 new hospitals built. Really grinds my gears, I pay almost 90k a year in taxes and get shit public services across the board. I'd love for the government to subsidize education for top tier physician candidates and critical infrastructure like they subsidize asylum seekers and Ukraine.

Ya bro it's fucked. Between me and my company I pay almost half a mil in taxes lol. I got no kids, so all I really ask for is some decent healthcare but I can't even get a GP in Toronto. Our system is fucked.

Pollievre has a great idea where he would force doctors to work in Canada for 10 years if they got a subsidized education here. Makes sense to me. Basically everything he wanted to do made sense, but what does sense matter anymore in this country LOL

 

[Shakey]

Ya bro it's fucked. Between me and my company I pay almost half a mil in taxes lol. I got no kids, so all I really ask for is some decent healthcare but I can't even get a GP in Toronto. Our system is fucked.

Pollievre has a great idea where he would force doctors to work in Canada for 10 years if they got a subsidized education here. Makes sense to me. Basically everything he wanted to do made sense, but what does sense matter anymore in this country LOL

It doesnt anymore. Lol
Im going to let doc know tomorrow that ill be going to another clinic to get looked at for an imaging req if they dont give one, or wont give me priority.

 

[Shakey]

3/23/26 Week 1 Day 2
Update: Did a 35min walk on treadmill at gym today, pain started at 15mins in lower lat and spot along spine. Got a low pressure(2/10) hydromassage. 3/10 pressure hurt, so low pressure and fast movement for now when i get them.

Even after massage, it ached after the walk so i slept it off and mustve rolled on that side. Pretty sharp pain in upper lat below shoulder/near armpit. Back and lower lat still gave trouble so i called off the afternoon walk.

Will see how tomorrow is for exercise. Because exercise is reduced, will stay at 5mg reta for now. Might cut in half around 8-12 weeks.

Forgot to mention yesterday but thanks @biogenix again for helping me out with extra anavar when i didnt have enough. Even though the cycle is now a rehab focused cycle with lower doses til recovery is complete, im still thankful for the help.

@biogenix ill be posting bloods here and in your review running only your sustanon and anavar around 3-4 weeks into cycle. When i bump up the doses after complete recovery (week14ish), ill be adding in a couple of your other products and rechecking bloods a few weeks after that as well along with posting those too.
Gear
Sustanon 71.5mg EOD - Biogenix
Anavar 20mg ED - Biogenix
Peptides
Reta 5mg weekly
GLOW 12mg split AM/PM
(1mg BPC/2mg TB/9mg GHK)
HGH 6iu split AM/PM
NAD+ 25mg AM
MOTS-c 1mg AM
Rx Medication
Lamotrigine - 75mg twice daily
Divalproex - 500mg AM / 750mg PM
Supps
6 Multivitamin - Split AM/PM
1500mg Glucosamine - Split AM/PM
2 Digestive Enzymes - Split AM/PM
4g Fish Oil (EPA720mg/DHA480mg) - Split AM/PM
500mcg Vitamin D + K2 200mcg E3D
2g Vitamin C - Split AM/PM
2.4mg Vitamin B12 - Split AM/PM
50 mg Lutien - Split AM/PM
500mg Milk Thistle - Split AM/PM
20mg Melatonin
24g Psyllium Husk - Split AM/PM
10g Creatine - Split AM/PM

 

[LevButlerov]

3/23/26 Week 1 Day 2
Update: Did a 35min walk on treadmill at gym today, pain started at 15mins in lower lat and spot along spine. Got a low pressure(2/10) hydromassage. 3/10 pressure hurt, so low pressure and fast movement for now when i get them.

Even after massage, it ached after the walk so i slept it off and mustve rolled on that side. Pretty sharp pain in upper lat below shoulder/near armpit. Back and lower lat still gave trouble so i called off the afternoon walk.

Will see how tomorrow is for exercise. Because exercise is reduced, will stay at 5mg reta for now. Might cut in half around 8-12 weeks.

Forgot to mention yesterday but thanks @biogenix again for helping me out with extra anavar when i didnt have enough. Even though the cycle is now a rehab focused cycle with lower doses til recovery is complete, im still thankful for the help.

@biogenix ill be posting bloods here and in your review running only your sustanon and anavar around 3-4 weeks into cycle. When i bump up the doses after complete recovery (week14ish), ill be adding in a couple of your other products and rechecking bloods a few weeks after that as well along with posting those too.
Gear
Sustanon 71.5mg EOD - Biogenix
Anavar 20mg ED - Biogenix
Peptides
Reta 5mg weekly
GLOW 12mg split AM/PM
(1mg BPC/2mg TB/9mg GHK)
HGH 6iu split AM/PM
NAD+ 25mg AM
MOTS-c 1mg AM
Rx Medication
Lamotrigine - 75mg twice daily
Divalproex - 500mg AM / 750mg PM
Supps
6 Multivitamin - Split AM/PM
1500mg Glucosamine - Split AM/PM
2 Digestive Enzymes - Split AM/PM
4g Fish Oil (EPA720mg/DHA480mg) - Split AM/PM
500mcg Vitamin D + K2 200mcg E3D
2g Vitamin C - Split AM/PM
2.4mg Vitamin B12 - Split AM/PM
50 mg Lutien - Split AM/PM
500mg Milk Thistle - Split AM/PM
20mg Melatonin
24g Psyllium Husk - Split AM/PM
10g Creatine - Split AM/PM
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awesome to see you doing cardio and trying to get back into it @Shakey

and shout out to Team Biogenix @biogenix good support!

@HarleyGuy @BritishCanadian @wye @Farmboy

 

[BritishCanadian]

You're doing great @Shakey, we all fall down, but it takes a man to pick himself up and keep going

 

[Shakey]

You're doing great @Shakey, we all fall down, but it takes a man to pick himself up and keep going

Thanks brother. As long as i rehab patiently, ioo be good as new soon enough.

 

[HarleyGuy]

3/23/26 Week 1 Day 2
Update: Did a 35min walk on treadmill at gym today, pain started at 15mins in lower lat and spot along spine. Got a low pressure(2/10) hydromassage. 3/10 pressure hurt, so low pressure and fast movement for now when i get them.

Even after massage, it ached after the walk so i slept it off and mustve rolled on that side. Pretty sharp pain in upper lat below shoulder/near armpit. Back and lower lat still gave trouble so i called off the afternoon walk.

Will see how tomorrow is for exercise. Because exercise is reduced, will stay at 5mg reta for now. Might cut in half around 8-12 weeks.

Forgot to mention yesterday but thanks @biogenix again for helping me out with extra anavar when i didnt have enough. Even though the cycle is now a rehab focused cycle with lower doses til recovery is complete, im still thankful for the help.

@biogenix ill be posting bloods here and in your review running only your sustanon and anavar around 3-4 weeks into cycle. When i bump up the doses after complete recovery (week14ish), ill be adding in a couple of your other products and rechecking bloods a few weeks after that as well along with posting those too.
Gear
Sustanon 71.5mg EOD - Biogenix
Anavar 20mg ED - Biogenix
Peptides
Reta 5mg weekly
GLOW 12mg split AM/PM
(1mg BPC/2mg TB/9mg GHK)
HGH 6iu split AM/PM
NAD+ 25mg AM
MOTS-c 1mg AM
Rx Medication
Lamotrigine - 75mg twice daily
Divalproex - 500mg AM / 750mg PM
Supps
6 Multivitamin - Split AM/PM
1500mg Glucosamine - Split AM/PM
2 Digestive Enzymes - Split AM/PM
4g Fish Oil (EPA720mg/DHA480mg) - Split AM/PM
500mcg Vitamin D + K2 200mcg E3D
2g Vitamin C - Split AM/PM
2.4mg Vitamin B12 - Split AM/PM
50 mg Lutien - Split AM/PM
500mg Milk Thistle - Split AM/PM
20mg Melatonin
24g Psyllium Husk - Split AM/PM
10g Creatine - Split AM/PM
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You're doing great so far with the rehab. I can tell in your DM's your frustrated not being able to go to the gym but yet still not forcing it; you're being really smart with this. Tell them the story about using the bathroom and it hurting your lat tear! Not many have truly torn a muscle before so it's a good learning lesson to know how incapacitating it can be.

 

[Shakey]

You're doing great so far with the rehab. I can tell in your DM's your frustrated not being able to go to the gym but yet still not forcing it; you're being really smart with this. Tell them the story about using the bathroom and it hurting your lat tear! Not many have truly torn a muscle before so it's a good learning lesson to know how incapacitating it can be.

Take away lesson was dont tear muscles on your dominant side. Lol

 

[Shakey]

Update: Yesterday i didnt bother logging. My tear flared up pretty good, not sure how i irritated it but it kept me up til 3am and still hurts now. There was no cardio yesterday because of it. Will go for a walk if it settles down.

 

[BritishCanadian]

Update: Yesterday i didnt bother logging. My tear flared up pretty good, not sure how i irritated it but it kept me up til 3am and still hurts now. There was no cardio yesterday because of it. Will go for a walk if it settles down.

You have to rest brother, take a few days

 

[Shakey]

You have to rest brother, take a few days

Thats the thing, i was resting. Lol. And no i just heard from my doc he wants to see me in a week before deciding if i need imaging. Brutal. Going to try urgent care in barrie tomoro if i can.