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Hey guys-

I am 47 and have been lifting for 25 years, I have done my share of cycles. I was young and stupid not using any PCT...

This time I want to approach it a bit smarter. I would like input on a good cycle that is mild. I do not want to bulk. I mainly want to gain strength and build lean muscle maybe cut up some. I really do not want to add too much weight but I could stand to loose maybe 15lbs. I am 5-6 185lbs. This what I was thinking.

Thoughts?

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Recomping can be done differant ways depending on experiance the cycles you did before so we have an idea of experiance leval and build 5/6 at 185 could be lean and fairly muscular or fat you have used gear and lifted for years so im imagining more muscular physique but it all makes a differance i dont beleive in cookie cutter protocals
 
Replace Adex with Aromasin. Run Aromasin throughout PCT. Use both Nolva and clomid in PCT. Adding HCG on cycle is a good idea. A little proviron wouldnt hurt either. You need a bigger break. One of the esters of Sustanon is Test Decanoate, which is one of the really long esters. Id wait 4 weeks all that build up of Sustanon to leave. I think when Sustanon was created it was used as an option for less injections per month because of the short half lives plus long half lives(Injected every 3-4 weeks for TRT?). So you should definitely wait 4 weeks. During those 4 weeks run Aromasin only, you can keep running HCG during that time as well. I havent read too much on HCG but some users who have more knowledge on it could tell you how long to use it for or if you should include it in the beginning of PCT.


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Unless you bought it already scap the sust and go with enthanate sust sucks 2 short esters and 2 long esters getting stable bloods on sust not possible and it hurts not allways but 90 percent of the time sust has teriblle pip
 
best to stop HCG a week or 2 out from pct. Negative feedback for body chemistry to make its own test again. It pretty much primes your nuts to come back but is still introducing synthetic reactions. JP I believe can explain it better.
I too prefer aromasin but some people love adex, whatever works for you...
 
jon38 said:
Unless you bought it already scap the sust and go with enthanate sust sucks 2 short esters and 2 long esters getting stable bloods on sust not possible and it hurts not allways but 90 percent of the time sust has teriblle pip
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Its different for everyone. I might try sust for my 2nd cycle, whenever that will be. Some guys love sust, some hate it. I guess some bodies react better to the constant surges of testosterone being released.


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Sust is fucking amazing. Idk why your getting terrible pip. Good sustanon would not cause that.



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I agree sust is great stuff. Drop the dex and use aromasin, use liver protection, wait 2 weeks before the PCT, change your PCT to the Perfect PCT

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Welcome brother
 
gearhead said:
bro 1) use aromasin instead of arimidex 2) add liver protection like n2guard, you'll need it http://www.evolutionary.org/n2guard
3) would suggest adding cardarine 20mgs ed to stay lean and keep endurance up http://www.evolutionary.org/cardarine-gw-501516-explained
4) your pct needs to be the perfect pct, the one you got now you will not recover http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
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I don't have much more to add to this. Aromasin is a better AI choice as it is a suicide AI and there is no estrogen rebound when you discontinue usage. Using a liver aid is essential when using oral steroids as they are very liver toxic. This is how you can put it all together.

weeks 1 - 12
testosterone 500mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg EOD
cardarine gw 20mg/day (10mg AM 10mg PM)

weeks 5 - 12
anavar 50mg/day
n2guard 7 capsules/day

After your PCT run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

You can order everything you need off of n2bm.com, sarms1.com, ag-guys.com

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Ahmad90 said:
Replace Adex with Aromasin. Run Aromasin throughout PCT. Use both Nolva and clomid in PCT. Adding HCG on cycle is a good idea. A little proviron wouldnt hurt either. You need a bigger break. One of the esters of Sustanon is Test Decanoate, which is one of the really long esters. Id wait 4 weeks all that build up of Sustanon to leave. I think when Sustanon was created it was used as an option for less injections per month because of the short half lives plus long half lives(Injected every 3-4 weeks for TRT?). So you should definitely wait 4 weeks. During those 4 weeks run Aromasin only, you can keep running HCG during that time as well. I havent read too much on HCG but some users who have more knowledge on it could tell you how long to use it for or if you should include it in the beginning of PCT.


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I don't recommend using HCG. It is a form of estrogen and often what causes the gynecomastia side effects people get on cycle. Use HCGenerate or nothing at all.
 
muskate said:
I don't have much more to add to this. Aromasin is a better AI choice as it is a suicide AI and there is no estrogen rebound when you discontinue usage. Using a liver aid is essential when using oral steroids as they are very liver toxic. This is how you can put it all together.

weeks 1 - 12
testosterone 500mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg EOD
cardarine gw 20mg/day (10mg AM 10mg PM)

weeks 5 - 12
anavar 50mg/day
n2guard 7 capsules/day

After your PCT run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

You can order everything you need off of n2bm.com, sarms1.com, ag-guys.com

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I don't recommend using HCG. It is a form of estrogen and often what causes the gynecomastia side effects people get on cycle. Use HCGenerate or nothing at all.
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Actually, HCG adds more testosterone to your system through your balls producing more. And on top of that, people are using Test E or C or whatever. So overall test levels are much higher while on HCG which causes a higher chance of gyno. People have said HCG nearly raised their test by 500-1000 ng/dL. And btw, dont you feel guilt when you lie to someone? (Go ahead tell the N2BM reps to cry to evo and tell them to ban me cause ive had absolutely enough of the anti HCG shit being said on here. Its backed up by docs and bodybuilders everywhere. It wouldnt be used in hormonal replacement if it was useless. Go find me a study or a vid of an endo or doc against HCG use, and then after find me a study done on HCGenerate proving it boosts LH/FSH on cycle. Hell find me a blood test proving it raises test at all. Theres a reason N2BM is in my spam list for my email because the reps will lie to push any product. You guys are worse than salesmen at a shady used car dealer.


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1. Better use aromasin at 12.5 mgs EOD. It is a much better AI than arimidex.
2. If you run oral steroids, you always need a good liver support. N2Guard is the best supp for this purpose.
3. Your PCT is extremely weak - do the perfect PCT. Also, Since you are using sustanon with its long esters, you need to wait at least a week before starting your pct.
4. Finally, my personal recommendation for you would be to run a SARMs triple stack - quite effective, no side effects, and it fits very well for your goals. Besides, it would get you very well conditioned before jumping back into AAS.
 
With sust wait 2weeks before starting pct. In those 2 weeks use hcg at 5000iu a week. Then use clomid and tamoxifen for 4weeks
 
What if I start to see alot of water retention or gyro should I run an AI during the cycle? thanks for the info
 
To everyone-Thanks for all the advice. This points me in the right direction. Glad I joined this forum....
 
Ahmad90 said:
Actually, HCG adds more testosterone to your system through your balls producing more. And on top of that, people are using Test E or C or whatever. So overall test levels are much higher while on HCG which causes a higher chance of gyno. People have said HCG nearly raised their test by 500-1000 ng/dL. And btw, dont you feel guilt when you lie to someone? (Go ahead tell the N2BM reps to cry to evo and tell them to ban me cause ive had absolutely enough of the anti HCG shit being said on here. Its backed up by docs and bodybuilders everywhere. It wouldnt be used in hormonal replacement if it was useless. Go find me a study or a vid of an endo or doc against HCG use, and then after find me a study done on HCGenerate proving it boosts LH/FSH on cycle. Hell find me a blood test proving it raises test at all. Theres a reason N2BM is in my spam list for my email because the reps will lie to push any product. You guys are worse than salesmen at a shady used car dealer.


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Could not AGREE more!
Its becoming an absolute joke tbh makes Evo painful at time
 
New Cycle base on everyones input

I laid out my cycle based on my goals and input from others on this forum. I think I am going with this.Aromisin during the cycle might be a bit much but let me know what you guys think.
 

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