Retratrutide

[CookieMuncher]

I got some serious side effects on retratrutide. Its liquid gold labs retra so im confident it is actually retra and my sides confirm it is retra too.

So, i started 30/07 doing 1.66666 mg per week.
Im on 20 mg lgd, 110mg trt dose. And thats it.
I was after just slight fat burning effect and slight appetite suppression.
My appetite got nuked, had to force myself to eat any meal. But most importantly, my sleep got completely destroyed.
I was still eating some meals so like 1500-1700 calories a day (i know i just couldn’t eat more) but at night time I had serious hypoglycemia symptoms. I am talking waking up 4-5x a night, in nightsweats, fucked dreams (i had a dream where i got recruited by fight club lmfao), anxiety, heart beating out my chest.
So few days ago I just had to cut it out because it was killing my strength + gains to be barely sleeping, and I didn’t expect it to make me hate eating at such a low dose…
Anyways so I did research and decided I should be eating carbs before bed and it helped a bit I guess but I had to go eat a tablespoon of honey whenever I woke up during the night, I sleep 11 pm wake up anywhere from 3-6 am.
Now that its slowly wearing off (I stopped only on 11/07) I can somewhat sleep again but is this common? Should I be worried haha? Can’t wait till the rest of this is out of my system, half life of 6 days so I’d expect 3-5 days more of this trouble.

I’ve done bloods like kidney, liver, metabolic panel and even fasting glucose and morning cortisol and that was all fine. I will admit its been a damn while since fasting glucose and morning cortisol test.
Also during this time I caught rhinovirus, common cold, and I thought the night sweats was from the virus but it turns out it was actually mostly retratrutide.

 

[CookieMuncher]

Sorry i meant i stopped 11/08
Due for bloods soon as mid cycle lgd
Also my lgd is UGL . Is so im sure thats actually lgd too especially since I got slight cramps and insane volume at gym.

 

[TechnoViking]

I've used Reta from a few different sources and definitely get the insomnia even from 2mg split twice a week. I have to take Melatonin every night and still not guaranteed a decent sleep on it. I also get the raised heart rate and struggle to eat much also get weird skin sensitivity/irritation in different places but it's all worth it

 

[Rudeus]

I got some serious side effects on retratrutide. Its liquid gold labs retra so im confident it is actually retra and my sides confirm it is retra too.

So, i started 30/07 doing 1.66666 mg per week.
Im on 20 mg lgd, 110mg trt dose. And thats it.
I was after just slight fat burning effect and slight appetite suppression.
My appetite got nuked, had to force myself to eat any meal. But most importantly, my sleep got completely destroyed.
I was still eating some meals so like 1500-1700 calories a day (i know i just couldn’t eat more) but at night time I had serious hypoglycemia symptoms. I am talking waking up 4-5x a night, in nightsweats, fucked dreams (i had a dream where i got recruited by fight club lmfao), anxiety, heart beating out my chest.
So few days ago I just had to cut it out because it was killing my strength + gains to be barely sleeping, and I didn’t expect it to make me hate eating at such a low dose…
Anyways so I did research and decided I should be eating carbs before bed and it helped a bit I guess but I had to go eat a tablespoon of honey whenever I woke up during the night, I sleep 11 pm wake up anywhere from 3-6 am.
Now that its slowly wearing off (I stopped only on 11/07) I can somewhat sleep again but is this common? Should I be worried haha? Can’t wait till the rest of this is out of my system, half life of 6 days so I’d expect 3-5 days more of this trouble.

I’ve done bloods like kidney, liver, metabolic panel and even fasting glucose and morning cortisol and that was all fine. I will admit its been a damn while since fasting glucose and morning cortisol test.
Also during this time I caught rhinovirus, common cold, and I thought the night sweats was from the virus but it turns out it was actually mostly retratrutide.

This is a sign to drop it and just do it the old way. It aint for you, ive also seen some people almost go to ER due to intaking to much fiber on it.

 

[Pigsy]

Sides are so individual on any Peds or peptides. I'm running 3.5mg of Reta no sides other than not feeling hungry. Some get anxious from EQ, deca. Others get blood pressure issues. That's why, we are like an experiment on ourselves working out what works for us

 

[CookieMuncher]

Yea I must be extremely prone to these GLP1 drugs.
My appetite suppression was next level for real, i love fried chicken cant imagine i wouldve ever had to force myself to eat it haha.

Thanks boys imma stay tf away from these drugs, glad I tried it for science sakes but yea I feel like I have brain damage from lack of sleep the past week so keen as for this shit to wear off!

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

what if you just really reduce the dose? If you are sensitive to 1.6mg maybe a much smaller dose will still have a good effect on you without major sides?

 

[CookieMuncher]

I should mention i tried 0.8333 mg for the first two weeks before i bumped to 1.6666 mg and i still slept like real poop.
At that point idk its just best for me to cut it out tbh

 

[Raptor Labs]

Personally, I don't like anything messing with my sleep. Creates a whole host of other issues

(i had a dream where i got recruited by fight club lmfao)

Being recruited by a fight club sounds exciting though. Next adventure I hope!

 

[willipede]

I'm quite sensitive to reta aswell. Didn't have any of the sleep issues or anything like that.

But I was on ~0.8mg per week split into 2 doses and had to force food down.

If i was to use it again I think my weekly dose would be better at ~0.5mg per week to take the edge off hunger.

Although I have no trouble staying lean without it, it was mainly for the lipid and bg benefits

 

[Eveflorence]

Sides are so individual on any Peds or peptides. I'm running 3.5mg of Reta no sides other than not feeling hungry. Some get anxious from EQ, deca. Others get blood pressure issues. That's why, we are like an experiment on ourselves working out what works for us

This is so true! We need to play around with dosages to find out sweet spots with these sorts of things

 

[CypherOCE]

I love Reta little raised RHR from it buts that’s about it for me. Still sleep like a baby

Definitely nukes the appetite but you have to muck around and find the dose that you get all the benefits and as little as possible of the side effects.

I went up to 3mg and that was way too much for me.

I’m down to 0.5mg now and I think I might bump it up ever so slightly but this seems to be a good dose where I can still eat and not absolutely struggle with a small meal.

I’ve also found I don’t crave shit anymore, used to love eating little snacks at work now I’m disgusting by even the thought of more unnecessary food. The stuff is absolutely wild.

 

[Allupfromhere]

You sure someone isnt jabbing you with tren when your asleep? jokes aside any drugs and side effects are individual based, however if you having to fight too much any compound to stay in control then might not be worth continuing it. Have you tried tirz instead?

 

[CookieMuncher]

Hahaha
Idk I honestly did this drug for the fact that it makes bad stuff like cigarettes, wasting time etc less appealing. And to also get slight calorie burn from the glucagon receptor (i think is the one that has the thermogenic effect) never had problems with my appetite even though I used to once be fat, nowadays I can easily control it naturally and eat good.
But yea tbh man this experience ruined 2 weeks for me and its just scared me off all GIP drugs so ill just stay away.
I threw out my retra today fairly certain it was legit btw liquidgoldlabs is goated and every side felt real.

You sure someone isnt jabbing you with tren when your asleep? jokes aside any drugs and side effects are individual based, however if you having to fight too much any compound to stay in control then might not be worth continuing it. Have you tried tirz instead?

 

[Allupfromhere]

Hahaha
Idk I honestly did this drug for the fact that it makes bad stuff like cigarettes, wasting time etc less appealing. And to also get slight calorie burn from the glucagon receptor (i think is the one that has the thermogenic effect) never had problems with my appetite even though I used to once be fat, nowadays I can easily control it naturally and eat good.
But yea tbh man this experience ruined 2 weeks for me and its just scared me off all GIP drugs so ill just stay away.
I threw out my retra today fairly certain it was legit btw liquidgoldlabs is goated and every side felt real.

At least you have good control over nutrition and eating habits anyway brother. No big loss then really.

 

[Armsbruh]

Sounds like we all need to grab some @Liquid Gold Labs reta!

 

[Pigsy]

Sounds like we all need to grab some @Liquid Gold Labs reta!

Couldn't go wrong

 

[rustle]

When i first started reta, i would get terrible heartburn. This actually lasted a couple of months.
I'd also get hypersensitive skin, mostly on the legs. It wouldnt hurt, but i could feel all of my leg hairs touching my pants.

Im now into my 4th month (i think) and i no longer get any sides. The appetite suppression isnt as good as it used to be, for me thats actually a good thing as i need to increase my food intake now.

Positive benefits of reta:
- i used to drink beer almost daily. I have had probably 3 beers since May, all of which were just at social gatherings.
- i used to binge on junk food after dinner, or buy maccas/kfc/something else for lunch. I have zero desire to eat any of that food now. Its just completely eliminated any desire to eat shit.
- although originally i actually gained weight, things finally kicked in after about a mont (i think). Im now 12kg lighter than my starting weight.

 

[CookieMuncher]

When i first started reta, i would get terrible heartburn. This actually lasted a couple of months.
I'd also get hypersensitive skin, mostly on the legs. It wouldnt hurt, but i could feel all of my leg hairs touching my pants.

Im now into my 4th month (i think) and i no longer get any sides. The appetite suppression isnt as good as it used to be, for me thats actually a good thing as i need to increase my food intake now.

Positive benefits of reta:
- i used to drink beer almost daily. I have had probably 3 beers since May, all of which were just at social gatherings.
- i used to binge on junk food after dinner, or buy maccas/kfc/something else for lunch. I have zero desire to eat any of that food now. Its just completely eliminated any desire to eat shit.
- although originally i actually gained weight, things finally kicked in after about a mont (i think). Im now 12kg lighter than my starting weight.

Stories like this is what made me extremely interested in retratrutide, seems like a miraculous drug for real.
Ive been really working on myself as a person past few months and trying to do more productive shit day to day, so a little boost like retra i know will go a long way.
But yea seems like an extremely individual based drug… never heard of the hypersensitivity or skin side effects before

 

[Rudeus]

Sides are so individual on any Peds or peptides. I'm running 3.5mg of Reta no sides other than not feeling hungry. Some get anxious from EQ, deca. Others get blood pressure issues. That's why, we are like an experiment on ourselves working out what works for us

Exactly right, the side effects and gains we get are different all round. I can run tren ace 350mg+ a week and not feel anything sode effects or mood related.
I almost feel lime testing my threshold with it and see how high before I get sides

 

[LevButlerov]

I got some serious side effects on retratrutide. Its liquid gold labs retra so im confident it is actually retra and my sides confirm it is retra too.

So, i started 30/07 doing 1.66666 mg per week.
Im on 20 mg lgd, 110mg trt dose. And thats it.
I was after just slight fat burning effect and slight appetite suppression.
My appetite got nuked, had to force myself to eat any meal. But most importantly, my sleep got completely destroyed.
I was still eating some meals so like 1500-1700 calories a day (i know i just couldn’t eat more) but at night time I had serious hypoglycemia symptoms. I am talking waking up 4-5x a night, in nightsweats, fucked dreams (i had a dream where i got recruited by fight club lmfao), anxiety, heart beating out my chest.
So few days ago I just had to cut it out because it was killing my strength + gains to be barely sleeping, and I didn’t expect it to make me hate eating at such a low dose…
Anyways so I did research and decided I should be eating carbs before bed and it helped a bit I guess but I had to go eat a tablespoon of honey whenever I woke up during the night, I sleep 11 pm wake up anywhere from 3-6 am.
Now that its slowly wearing off (I stopped only on 11/07) I can somewhat sleep again but is this common? Should I be worried haha? Can’t wait till the rest of this is out of my system, half life of 6 days so I’d expect 3-5 days more of this trouble.

I’ve done bloods like kidney, liver, metabolic panel and even fasting glucose and morning cortisol and that was all fine. I will admit its been a damn while since fasting glucose and morning cortisol test.
Also during this time I caught rhinovirus, common cold, and I thought the night sweats was from the virus but it turns out it was actually mostly retratrutide.

I added your feedback to our retatrutide mega thread here -
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/retatrutide-its-the-real-deal.103339
you should review that thread more @CookieMuncher
you should also update your log -
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-back-in-shape-trt-and-sarms-log.106154/

Sorry i meant i stopped 11/08
Due for bloods soon as mid cycle lgd
Also my lgd is UGL . Is so im sure thats actually lgd too especially since I got slight cramps and insane volume at gym.

Sounds like the sleep issues are coming from a mix of low blood sugar and how retratrutide slows digestion. When you’re running TRT+LGD on top of it, your body is demanding fuel but the drug is blunting hunger and leaving you short on carbs. That drop in calories and glucose will spike cortisol and adrenaline at night, which is why you wake up sweaty, anxious, and wired. I’ve seen a few guys I train report the same thing, especially when they let carbs get too low in the first phase of use. Meaning, over time this gets easier.
Best approach is to keep pre-bed carbs in play, but NOT honey, best use steel cut oatmeal or another very log GI carb source.
Add Zinc Magnesium with valerian root as well, and if you can get melatonin add that too.

 

[CookieMuncher]

I added your feedback to our retatrutide mega thread here -
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/retatrutide-its-the-real-deal.103339
you should review that thread more @CookieMuncher
you should also update your log -
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-back-in-shape-trt-and-sarms-log.106154/

Sounds like the sleep issues are coming from a mix of low blood sugar and how retratrutide slows digestion. When you’re running TRT+LGD on top of it, your body is demanding fuel but the drug is blunting hunger and leaving you short on carbs. That drop in calories and glucose will spike cortisol and adrenaline at night, which is why you wake up sweaty, anxious, and wired. I’ve seen a few guys I train report the same thing, especially when they let carbs get too low in the first phase of use. Meaning, over time this gets easier.
Best approach is to keep pre-bed carbs in play, but NOT honey, best use steel cut oatmeal or another very log GI carb source.
Add Zinc Magnesium with valerian root as well, and if you can get melatonin add that too.

Thanks brother.
I would have honey if i ever woke up with crashes glucose just for instant rise.

I also trialed with having wholegrain toast 2-3 slices + some protein before bed and it HELPED but towards 6-7 hours into sleep cortisol spikes still and my glucose would crash.
I also have a naturally low fasted blood sugar, i remember when I tested it, it was within the normal range but towards the lower end.
I assume that could also play into it.

 

[CookieMuncher]

I added your feedback to our retatrutide mega thread here -
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/retatrutide-its-the-real-deal.103339
you should review that thread more @CookieMuncher
you should also update your log -
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-back-in-shape-trt-and-sarms-log.106154/

Sounds like the sleep issues are coming from a mix of low blood sugar and how retratrutide slows digestion. When you’re running TRT+LGD on top of it, your body is demanding fuel but the drug is blunting hunger and leaving you short on carbs. That drop in calories and glucose will spike cortisol and adrenaline at night, which is why you wake up sweaty, anxious, and wired. I’ve seen a few guys I train report the same thing, especially when they let carbs get too low in the first phase of use. Meaning, over time this gets easier.
Best approach is to keep pre-bed carbs in play, but NOT honey, best use steel cut oatmeal or another very log GI carb source.
Add Zinc Magnesium with valerian root as well, and if you can get melatonin add that too.

Also i take zinc + magneisum l threonate.
Ill look into valerian root but personally not a fan of melatonin as I have 0 trouble getting to sleep, just 5-6 hours into sleep is when I wake up. But yea im just giving up retra its just I reacted bad to it

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks brother.
I would have honey if i ever woke up with crashes glucose just for instant rise.

I also trialed with having wholegrain toast 2-3 slices + some protein before bed and it HELPED but towards 6-7 hours into sleep cortisol spikes still and my glucose would crash.
I also have a naturally low fasted blood sugar, i remember when I tested it, it was within the normal range but towards the lower end.
I assume that could also play into it.

Switch to whole or steel cut oats mixed with caseinate protein, before bed with 2-3 walnuts, this will fix the issue for now. Don't do toast. @CookieMuncher

Also i take zinc + magneisum l threonate.
Ill look into valerian root but personally not a fan of melatonin as I have 0 trouble getting to sleep, just 5-6 hours into sleep is when I wake up. But yea im just giving up retra its just I reacted bad to it

Add valerian in this case, and you can ignore the melatonin, I think you need a prescription in AU for it! (nuts!)

 

[CookieMuncher]

Switch to whole or steel cut oats mixed with caseinate protein, before bed with 2-3 walnuts, this will fix the issue for now. Don't do toast. @CookieMuncher

Add valerian in this case, and you can ignore the melatonin, I think you need a prescription in AU for it! (nuts!)

Sounds good, thank you sir I will try tonight and update. As retra is wearing off my sleep is getting better so this will be interesting to test as I still wake up during sleep.

 

[LevButlerov]

Sounds good, thank you sir I will try tonight and update. As retra is wearing off my sleep is getting better so this will be interesting to test as I still wake up during sleep.

Sounds good update us after

 

[CookieMuncher]

Sounds good update us after

Ok couldnt find casein powder at the store.
I got some cottage cheese doe which is mostly casein protein.
+ few walnuts + raw oats with milk.
Will let you know how it goes in the morning.

 

[LevButlerov]

Ok couldnt find casein powder at the store.
I got some cottage cheese doe which is mostly casein protein.
+ few walnuts + raw oats with milk.
Will let you know how it goes in the morning.

Whey protein will work, add that you have it right? @CookieMuncher

 

[CookieMuncher]

Whey protein will work, add that you have it right? @CookieMuncher

Ok so i had whey protein 3 hours before bed.
Right before bed (30mins) i had raw oats + milk. Wallnuts x3 and cottage cheese (15g worth of protein). As well as my usual sleep pills, apigenin l theanine and magnesium l threonate
I definitely slept better and my cortisol felt lower. Its weird man, during sleep I know how high my cortisol is as it directly relates with how fucked my dreams are.
Last night i had a dream i was a motorbike rider and it was very chill, only woke up once around 5-6 am.
Ill try again with whey protein closer to bed time tonight. No point getting valerian as i have to order it and itll arrive next week (no local stock).
According to my thermodynamic chatgpt calculations i have 3-4 more days of messing around with this till it naturally should be low enough to not be too relevant in my system.
My symptoms kicked in above 0.45 mg systemic levels, right now im at 0.6ish mg from memory.

 

[LevButlerov]

Ok so i had whey protein 3 hours before bed.
Right before bed (30mins) i had raw oats + milk. Wallnuts x3 and cottage cheese (15g worth of protein). As well as my usual sleep pills, apigenin l theanine and magnesium l threonate
I definitely slept better and my cortisol felt lower. Its weird man, during sleep I know how high my cortisol is as it directly relates with how fucked my dreams are.
Last night i had a dream i was a motorbike rider and it was very chill, only woke up once around 5-6 am.
Ill try again with whey protein closer to bed time tonight. No point getting valerian as i have to order it and itll arrive next week (no local stock).
According to my thermodynamic chatgpt calculations i have 3-4 more days of messing around with this till it naturally should be low enough to not be too relevant in my system.
My symptoms kicked in above 0.45 mg systemic levels, right now im at 0.6ish mg from memory.

I would add the valerian root if you can get it, you can expect better and more calm sleep from it.
And dont use chatgpt for advice, its a bot not a person who has experience, it can give you dangerous advice. @CookieMuncher

 

[Gheks]

quick question for all - unconstituted powder reta is good to be stored in freezer until ready to mix to preserve potencdy? with constituted to be in the fridge

 

[LevButlerov]

quick question for all - unconstituted powder reta is good to be stored in freezer until ready to mix to preserve potencdy? with constituted to be in the fridge

@Gheks welcome back to the EVO family I see you posted a few times but no Q/A, can you tell us what your cycle is now? and why you want to use retatrutide?

To answer your question, you got it right. Keep the raw powder in the freezer sealed tight until you’re ready to mix it, that keeps potency solid. Once you reconstitute it with BAC water (Bacteriostatic Water), it goes in the fridge and you use it from there. Don’t freeze it after it’s mixed or you’ll risk damaging the peptide. Just make sure both powder and mixed solution stay out of light and are sealed well. But even if exposed to light a bit, wont be an issue.

 

[CookieMuncher]

Ok so few things I noticed with retratrutide.
I was extremely sensitive to it which is why I reacted negatively, but if anyone gets the sleep side effects I’m just going to break it down below.
Avoid too much fiber all together, don’t completely avoid it though, i found i couldn’t go above 20g and feel fine.
Definitely specifically avoid fiber at night time, whenever I had fiber I would be in extreme nightsweats.
Always eat some low GI carbs before bed, have some ideally 1 hr before bed, and have it with 15-20g of protein, ideally slow absorbing protein like Casein if not use what you got liek whey.
If you can add a little bit of healthy fats too like walnuts, its a +.
I personally couldn’t have any more protein than 20g, the thermogenesis effect of protein made me nightsweat even more and made it miserable for me.
I’d recommend magnesium l threonate and apigenin, that helped me a lot.
Mr above recommends some more sleeping stuff too, take as needed.
Last night was the first full 8 hr of sleep I got without waking up since a week after starting it so I am glad I can function properly again.
For me it was better to stop as it was ruining my gym and motivation in personal life, I am glad I did as retra has a fairly long half life and takes couple weeks to wear off systematically.
Apparently some people this gets way better as they stay on it, can’t comment much on this except my personal experience.

 

[CookieMuncher]

@Gheks welcome back to the EVO family I see you posted a few times but no Q/A, can you tell us what your cycle is now? and why you want to use retatrutide?

To answer your question, you got it right. Keep the raw powder in the freezer sealed tight until you’re ready to mix it, that keeps potency solid. Once you reconstitute it with BAC water (Bacteriostatic Water), it goes in the fridge and you use it from there. Don’t freeze it after it’s mixed or you’ll risk damaging the peptide. Just make sure both powder and mixed solution stay out of light and are sealed well. But even if exposed to light a bit, wont be an issue.

Also I don’t know if this is self explanatory or not so thought I’d add it in.
But make sure your BAC is in fridge and cold before you mix it. Mixing with warm bac isn’t ideal i guess.
When inserting needle to the solutions, make sure you wipe the rubber with wipes and then give it a few seconds to dry before inserting needle.
Also when mixing don’t shake the vials at all, just slowly empty the needle and let it dissolve, you can very gently move the solution side to side to help it dissolve.
All this will help extra with preserving quality.

 

[Eveflorence]

Ok so few things I noticed with retratrutide.
I was extremely sensitive to it which is why I reacted negatively, but if anyone gets the sleep side effects I’m just going to break it down below.
Avoid too much fiber all together, don’t completely avoid it though, i found i couldn’t go above 20g and feel fine.
Definitely specifically avoid fiber at night time, whenever I had fiber I would be in extreme nightsweats.
Always eat some low GI carbs before bed, have some ideally 1 hr before bed, and have it with 15-20g of protein, ideally slow absorbing protein like Casein if not use what you got liek whey.
If you can add a little bit of healthy fats too like walnuts, its a +.
I personally couldn’t have any more protein than 20g, the thermogenesis effect of protein made me nightsweat even more and made it miserable for me.
I’d recommend magnesium l threonate and apigenin, that helped me a lot.
Mr above recommends some more sleeping stuff too, take as needed.
Last night was the first full 8 hr of sleep I got without waking up since a week after starting it so I am glad I can function properly again.
For me it was better to stop as it was ruining my gym and motivation in personal life, I am glad I did as retra has a fairly long half life and takes couple weeks to wear off systematically.
Apparently some people this gets way better as they stay on it, can’t comment much on this except my personal experience.

What else were you running apart from the reta?

 

[CookieMuncher]

What else were you running apart from the reta?

Around 100 mg of test E a week.
20 mg daily lgd
Thats it.

 

[LevButlerov]

What else were you running apart from the reta?

@Eveflorence this is @CookieMuncher Log -
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-back-in-shape-trt-and-sarms-log.106154/