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Howdy guys new here. Hope I don't get ripped apart. I have ran a couple real cycles typically test cypionate but just bought some sarms and have no idea about them. Yk and rad. I posted on a different page because I have no knowledge of sarms and got hit with a lot of stuff I'm unsure about. For example, only run 4 weeks, I need a full pct, I need a test base, and also a on cycle support. Just looking for some real answers. I can screen shot the other replies I received if you guys want to see exactly what they said as far as what I need to do. Any helps appreciated I've searched all over the Internet the last month and it seems everyone has a different opinion.
well you don't need a test base to run sarms.. RAD was actually designed to be a TRT replacement. so whoever told you that is a moron. what happens with all this misinformation is that guys are running what they think are sarm's, but really they are pro hormones. so they run them and have all sorts of side effects from gyno to being shutdown hard, to acne, to bloat, etc. and then they complain how bad sarm's are.
so the key with sarm's is getting LEGIT sarm's.. the only brand you should ever trust is sarms1
so the key with sarm's is getting LEGIT sarm's.. the only brand you should ever trust is sarms1
Hmm ok. By chance are you a member of anabolic minds? I would like someone to read through what people are telling me because now I'm highly confused. Even more so I guess you could say. My plan was to start my cycle today but now I'm pumping the brakes big time.
SARMS are great to run and you definitely do not need a test base. They are minimally suppressive (only around 5% max) so by running test with them you would just be running a steroid cycle and shutting yourself down. One of the benefits of SARMS is that they do not come with the side effects that steroids do (including the shut down).
I would run your SARMS cycle without any other PED's.
Also, where did you get your SARMS from? Are the liquid or in capsules?
I would run your SARMS cycle without any other PED's.
Also, where did you get your SARMS from? Are the liquid or in capsules?
Here is a good video for you to watch where I explain in depth what SARMS are, how they work and sample SARM cycles -> http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/new-video-sarms-explained-46877.html
There is quite a bit of confusion and misinformation about SARMS. Largely because so much of the SARMS on the market are fake or laced with pro-hormones. The people who are posting threads claiming they didn't notice anything or experienced bad side effects from their SARMS cycle were probably not even using SARMS at all.
Always do your research before ordering from any source. This is particularly true when it comes to SARMS.
You do NOT need a test base to use SARMS.
SARMS are a completely different class then pro-hormones and steroids. Steroids and pro-hormones have two distinct but overlapping effects:
1. The anabolic effects which promote growth
2. The androgenic effects which promote an increase in male sexual characteristics
The problem with the androgenic effects of steroids is that they can cause side effects. Especially when taken by women.
SARMS on the other hand are completely anabolic substances so there are no risks of developing emasculating side effects. SARMS were originally developed to prevent muscle wasting in people with diseases like HIV and cancer.
SARMS are extremely effective by themselves but work even better when stacked together as they work synergistically.
A very common SARMS cycle is the SARMS triple stack. The triple stack is combination of S4 + ostarine + cardarine. http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARM...stack-protocol
Cardarine is a great SARM for fat loss and endurance
Ostarine is a great SARM for recovery
S4 is a great SARM for strength gains
You get the best of everything by stacking the three together.
SARMS are only minimally suppressive of natural testosterone production so all that is needed as a mini PCT after a cycle of SARMS is a good natural testosterone booster like HCGenerate ES from n2bm.com.
There is quite a bit of confusion and misinformation about SARMS. Largely because so much of the SARMS on the market are fake or laced with pro-hormones. The people who are posting threads claiming they didn't notice anything or experienced bad side effects from their SARMS cycle were probably not even using SARMS at all.
Always do your research before ordering from any source. This is particularly true when it comes to SARMS.
You do NOT need a test base to use SARMS.
SARMS are a completely different class then pro-hormones and steroids. Steroids and pro-hormones have two distinct but overlapping effects:
1. The anabolic effects which promote growth
2. The androgenic effects which promote an increase in male sexual characteristics
The problem with the androgenic effects of steroids is that they can cause side effects. Especially when taken by women.
SARMS on the other hand are completely anabolic substances so there are no risks of developing emasculating side effects. SARMS were originally developed to prevent muscle wasting in people with diseases like HIV and cancer.
SARMS are extremely effective by themselves but work even better when stacked together as they work synergistically.
A very common SARMS cycle is the SARMS triple stack. The triple stack is combination of S4 + ostarine + cardarine. http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARM...stack-protocol
Cardarine is a great SARM for fat loss and endurance
Ostarine is a great SARM for recovery
S4 is a great SARM for strength gains
You get the best of everything by stacking the three together.
SARMS are only minimally suppressive of natural testosterone production so all that is needed as a mini PCT after a cycle of SARMS is a good natural testosterone booster like HCGenerate ES from n2bm.com.
I bought rise yk and rad 2 bottles of each from total nutrition. They told me they get all their stuff tested and it's made only for them. That's what they said who knows if it's true. It says 3 capsules of each a day. Everything I've researched is just so all over the place online. He's the only one I've talked to in person and he explained take each 3 times a day for 8 weeks and then a pct that they also sell. I'm not currently on any other substances.
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My plan was to start this cycle Friday but now from the other forum I posted on everyone's saying I need way more stuff and not to stack them and all kinds of other stuff. Now I'm confused and somewhat frightened so I wish I would have just bought my old stand but test cyp cycle instead of these.
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My plan was to start this cycle Friday but now from the other forum I posted on everyone's saying I need way more stuff and not to stack them and all kinds of other stuff. Now I'm confused and somewhat frightened so I wish I would have just bought my old stand but test cyp cycle instead of these.
Legit Sarms are always in liquid form. You most likely will have prohormones (or just some filler powder) if you have capsules bro. Sorry for the bad news.
I have read that as well but there are exceptions as well from what I understand? Can anyone speak to this brand or total nutritions products?
Capsules are only used by humans as far as I know. Buying the pure sarms powder is legal as well but capsules are not. Is Total Nutrition like a GNC so it has a physical store? If so then it is 100% not real SARMS. What is the website you bought it off of?
Yes kinda like gnc.
I got them from the store.
The brand name is rise nutraceuticals from Nevada if I remember right
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I have a picture of them how do I post it?
I got them from the store.
The brand name is rise nutraceuticals from Nevada if I remember right
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I have a picture of them how do I post it?
100% they are not SARMS then as you cannot buy legit SARMS in a store. You have bought something marketed to sucker in people to think they are real SARMS.
Jay Scott
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Why did you buy all these random sarms without even doing some research what they are and what are they for?
It surprises me. As for test base - you do not need it, thats pretty much the whole point of sarms is that you run them in order not to run gear (milder compounds with no sides). So much misinformation..
As I stated previously these are so new you can spend an hour online researching thinking you have at least a good baseline of these but since they are so new it's like nothing but opinions on every forum. I thought I knew what I was getting I obviously didn't
So my best plan of attack here is don't even break the seals and throw them up in my supplement cabnet to remind myself I'm a dumbass and wait until I have more money to get the real stuff ya? Lol fk
If you have the receipt you should be able to return it for a refund or at least in store credit and buy protein powder instead.
Boom I thought the same thing and actually just returned them full refund. Also talked to the guy at the Houston location and he gave me some good insight on them. Thanks again guys appreciate all the help and sorry for being a newborn fetus with the sarms. If anyone can recommend or point me in the correct direction of a good starter cycle with dosage and everything like pct for bulking I'd appreciate that as well and then I promise I'll leave you guys alone.
Ok so I'm ordering the 3 for 200$ deal on sarmsx what will I need for proper cycle and pct?
bro get yourself some pct clomid/hcgenerate and hit a good sarms triple stack....
anyone seen these?
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bro sure...another prohormone laced bottle made by some bathtub joker without any reputation...good luck with that poison
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I've never heard of that source before so I can't comment. I personally get my SARMS from sarms1.com
Ya didn't buy em just wondering if anyone else had.
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I'm just wondering in your opinion are SARMS with the jump or is TRT the way to go ? cause at least I know what's going in my body with the TRT ROUTE?
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They are completely different things. If you are on TRT it is because you are not producing enough test. SARMs would be used as a cycle. RAD was developed as a potential to replace injectable test for TRT but I would not go that route yet.
Do you have low T currently?
Yes I do have low test, what I'm saying is if I go TRT a ml of test a week is going to be equivalent to a first CYCLE anyway, and then at least I know what's going in my body right?
Ive heard 1 ml should put me through the roof on test, many bodybuilders cliam thats more than enough to get very good results on bloodwork.
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Jay Scott
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1ml per week assuming the concentration is about 200-300mgs should be more than enough for you to feel good in terms of testosterone.
But keep in mind you need to control other hormones as well, estrogen including. With unbalanced hormone panel you will feel horrible.
Ya awesome! looking forward to it, still training right now but it's a real grind.
got another one would you trust the secondary market over pharma stuff for RIODS? And the SARMS issue presents no guarantee at all on what your getting as well. Any input would be appreciated. my test and estradiol were both just above clinically low it would appear in a good candidate for TRT.
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Nothing wrong with UGL as long as you have a good source. We have approved sources here you can check out.
1ml is going to be a bit high for most people. Now, there are guys who do require that much but starting off I would recommend 100mg per week That would likely be .5ml on most brands.
Blood work is key to monitor to keep you in the proper range.
If test is indeed low than you could just go through your doctor to get pharmacy gear if you want. That is always the best option when possible.
1ml is going to be a bit high for most people. Now, there are guys who do require that much but starting off I would recommend 100mg per week That would likely be .5ml on most brands.
Blood work is key to monitor to keep you in the proper range.
If test is indeed low than you could just go through your doctor to get pharmacy gear if you want. That is always the best option when possible.
Jay Scott
Retired VIP
For roids I would check the approved sources section if I were you.
As for sarms - i always get mine from sarms1.com and they are top notch.
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