OFFICIAL Suspension of BigBoyLabs (BBL)

[hypogaeum]

So I guess BBL won’t be back, @Eddie Haskell?

Team

Hope you are all really, really well. As we are clearly not, according to the Fürher, Eddie Haskell

Apparently, the way you respond to devastating personal news is now grossly important to some goose running an internet forum on another continent. Go figure.

Anyway. On the back of a ridiculously reasoned permaban, we will be taking an extended South East Asian tour. May or may not return in a year or so, see how we go.

If anyone is after tracking numbers, please ask Eddie for them.

Peace and love.

BBL

 

[R&Dpharma]

"i dont know why i was banned"

 

[ODINLABS]

So I guess BBL won’t be back, @Eddie Haskell?

Team

Hope you are all really, really well. As we are clearly not, according to the Fürher, Eddie Haskell

Apparently, the way you respond to devastating personal news is now grossly important to some goose running an internet forum on another continent. Go figure.

Anyway. On the back of a ridiculously reasoned permaban, we will be taking an extended South East Asian tour. May or may not return in a year or so, see how we go.

If anyone is after tracking numbers, please ask Eddie for them.

Peace and love.

BBL

Transference classic drug using behaviour
Unwilling to accept responsibility for one's actions just blame on others
Its not for anyone to understand your problems they are YOUr issues business as usual... Fml

 

[Noah Wixx]

south east asia probably not the best idea for someone with an addiction

 

[sifnezzz]

What a psycho!

 

[BigCheese2000]

Transference classic drug using behaviour
Unwilling to accept responsibility for one's actions just blame on others
Its not for anyone to understand your problems they are YOUr issues business as usual... Fml

Tried to stay out but this got me a bit mad this morning. From that message it suggests that people won’t be made whole and all those unfulfilled orders will be spent over in Thailand or wherever else?

 

[Noah Wixx]

Tried to stay out but this got me a bit mad this morning. From that message it suggests that people won’t be made whole and all those unfulfilled orders will be spent over in Thailand or wherever else?

Its kind of weird and iconic lots of people in this industry or bodybuilders etc vist or stay in Thailand for extended periods if time and then end up dying in strange ways.

 

[BigCheese2000]

Its kind of weird and iconic lots of people in this industry or bodybuilders etc vist or stay in Thailand for extended periods if time and then end up dying in strange ways.

For sure. Relatively cheap country, decent beaches and the like. Going myself on a couples holiday for 2 weeks , will be training as normal and just not thinking about work

 

[Noah Wixx]

For sure. Relatively cheap country, decent beaches and the like. Going myself on a couples holiday for 2 weeks , will be training as normal and just not thinking about work

Just stay away from tony huge and you will be fine

 

[TeeGee]

I think it was obvious people wouldn't get the gh once they learned they were banned. That's just a final stab at w

Just stay away from tony huge and you will be fine

Good old Tony huge

 

[Noah Wixx]

I think it was obvious people wouldn't get the gh once they learned they were banned. That's just a final stab at w

Good old Tony huge

Yeah and Connor Murphy dude is a fruit loop lol

 

[TeeGee]

Yeah and Connor Murphy dude is a fruit loop lol

What ever happened to coach Trevor who was rolling with Tony ??

Aaron reid seems to be the only one from that team who made something of themselves

 

[Noah Wixx]

What ever happened to coach Trevor who was rolling with Tony ??

Aaron reid seems to be the only one from that team who made something of themselves

Not sure he was around for a long time, i dont even know what he is doing these days, i do miss the old days of YouTube fitness, used to be a goldmine of great people, now it is a swamp of rotting garbage.

 

[TeeGee]

Not sure he was around for a long time, i dont even know what he is doing these days, i do miss the old days of YouTube fitness, used to be a goldmine of great people, now it is a swamp of rotting garbage.

Really couldn't agree more with you on this topic

 

[Noah Wixx]

Really couldn't agree more with you on this topic

It truly is sad seeing what once was that now is, sad times man.

 

[TeeGee]

It truly is sad seeing what once was that now is, sad times man.

Jordan Oakley. Worst things to come into the sport. I followed some of his rubbish and was a watery mess of estrogen and bad blood work.

Can't stand that clown

 

[Noah Wixx]

Jordan Oakley. Worst things to come into the sport. I followed some of his rubbish and was a watery mess of estrogen and bad blood work.

Can't stand that clown

See what I mean it's just fucking terrible people and advice, atleast with evo you can talk with actual experienced people and coaches and get good products and knowledge, message boards like this are more vital than ever before.

 

[ODINLABS]

Really couldn't agree more with you on this topic

Cesspool of filth that youtube scene... Makes me nauseous

 

[mrsrlkla]

Tried to stay out but this got me a bit mad this morning. From that message it suggests that people won’t be made whole and all those unfulfilled orders will be spent over in Thailand or wherever else?

Spend everyone else's hard earned cash on ladyboys over in Thailand.
Total dog act.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

So I guess BBL won’t be back, @Eddie Haskell?

Team

Hope you are all really, really well. As we are clearly not, according to the Fürher, Eddie Haskell

Apparently, the way you respond to devastating personal news is now grossly important to some goose running an internet forum on another continent. Go figure.

Anyway. On the back of a ridiculously reasoned permaban, we will be taking an extended South East Asian tour. May or may not return in a year or so, see how we go.

If anyone is after tracking numbers, please ask Eddie for them.

Peace and love.

BBL

I will address this issue in the below post, as I think it warrants a detailed answer to be transparent with the EVO family.

History:
For new readers to this conversation, BBL @BigBoyLabs was suspended for exit scamming customers. You can read it here:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/suspension-of-bigboylabs-bbl.103919/post-1716675

BigBoyLabs (BBL) has been suspended!

Unfortunately, a VIP supplier in the EVO family, BigBoyLabs (BBL), has gone rogue and left many EVO members without any product. We can have an academic debate on whether it was an exit scam or not, it wouldn't change the fact that many EVO family members lost money and didn't get their products.

There is not much more to say, please read this thread and it will explain the back and forth dialogue about BBL: (starting page 7)
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/bbl-2025-price-list-updates.102877/post-1713641

example:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/bbl-labs.103854

In addition, even before this, a member @LeakingCoffee reported quality issues with BBL HGH:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/i-suspect-bigboylabs-hgh-is-fake.103576/
While we are aware the member is not liked, he was essentially exposing BBL before the issue became apparent to us.

After he was exposed as a scammer, and it was evident he was stealing customers' money and ran; it was also revealed that he was a recreational drug user.
I do not say this lightly, he is sick and has serious issues he needs to workout. Drug addiction will end his life if he doesn't do something about it. I truly wish he would go to NA, seek rehab and change his life. Quit drugs and sober up.

After the above suspension, about a week later, BBL reached out to me via DM. I openly posted the conversation we had here:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/suspension-of-bigboylabs-bbl.103919/post-1720679

Reposting it for new readers:

Hi Eddie

I hope you are very well and I am sure you are aware of what I am writing about this evening.

Please see screenshot attached.

BBL

You are BBL?

Correct.

Eddie, I guess what I find most unfair about this whole ordeal is that I have spent every second since release trying to fix things for the community we care so much about by correcting orders (many can attest to this) and also personally by attending my first NA meeting we are banned with no recourse.

I really do think it would behoove you to reconsider.

Please do let me know if there is anything we can do.

BBL

You do realize I’m supposed to report you to admins and suspend you?

I’m only answering because you mentioned NA. I support your decision to try to change your life.
I just don’t know if it’s genuine.

I genuinely did not know this.

But they approached me whilst I was in hospital and invited me on a walk this morning.

I'll be honest, very uncomfortable at first but loved it by the end.

Further to that, reading what you posted about us never returning would have sent me on a super bender but right now it's just not what I want. Not sure what to make of that but I'm sure this morning has something to do with it

Eddie what I do need from you is a definite answer on this, do you stand by your comment that we will never return?

Finish your NA program, show your completion certificate and I can try to submit it for review. Has to be fully verifiable that you’ve completed the program and have done testing to show you’re clean.

forgive my naivety but what exactly does this entail, anything on NA Aus I read is quite vague

You figure it out. Complete the NA program and rehab and come back after.

why don't we put some spice on it, I complete 12 steps and a balinese rehab over the next 3 months and you grant me gold status.

Which I will of course pay for, I don't take handouts.

I don’t grant any statuses. I have management. I am supposed to ban any alters of suspended members. You’re only here because you are openly discussing changing your life and NA.

Once you can complete the program and test clean, you will be sent for appeal, to appeal suspension. Even if unsuspended, No status changes are given only probation.

After this DM exchange, he again went missing and came back with the following response. (our back and forth below). This is likely what drove him to more Drugs and to finally bow out.
This is yesterday DM exchange:

Honestly Eddie, I had no idea you were involved with NA but now knowing how the group fosters and encourages their members I'm a bit disappointed that you aren't coming to the table on this.

Gold status would really encourage me to complete the program, rehab and improve my life, I really wish you would reconsider and chat with your seniors about this.

If you’re serious about NA, I personally encourage you to seek help and support. Drug addiction will ruin your life in the end. If you are still in control, try your best to get into a rehab program and change your life.

However, While we support and encourage NA and rehab, you’re clearly playing games here. Please don’t waste my time until you get off drugs completely.

Furthermore, It’s really hard for me to believe you’re sober when you are talking about Gold status without having even fulfilled outstanding orders to EVO family.

You should start by taking care of all outstanding EVO brothers you took money from. Refund all outstanding debts to EVO family members immediately!

I think his DM spells out clearly his state of mind in this situation.

After the above DM exchange with him, today I see he has sent the buyers he Scammed the below message: Thank you @hypogaeum for sharing with the community.

So I guess BBL won’t be back, @Eddie Haskell?

Team

Hope you are all really, really well. As we are clearly not, according to the Fürher, Eddie Haskell

Apparently, the way you respond to devastating personal news is now grossly important to some goose running an internet forum on another continent. Go figure.

Anyway. On the back of a ridiculously reasoned permaban, we will be taking an extended South East Asian tour. May or may not return in a year or so, see how we go.

If anyone is after tracking numbers, please ask Eddie for them.

Peace and love.

BBL

I will attempt to dissect and translate it below:

Hope you are all really, really well. As we are clearly not, according to the Fürher, Eddie Haskell

If suspending you due to you (BBL) stealing money and scamming the community is being a Furher, yes you can call me that.

Apparently, the way you respond to devastating personal news is now grossly important to some goose running an internet forum on another continent. Go figure.

I've seen this mentioned before. How would me being on another continent relate to your scamming members in Australia? You mean me being in the USA means I can't read and cannot understand the 100s of members who were scammed and lied to by you?

Anyway. On the back of a ridiculously reasoned permaban, we will be taking an extended South East Asian tour. May or may not return in a year or so, see how we go.

Translation: Bigboylabs (BBL) will be stealing the money he owes you and running to Thailand, so he can use drugs with the money.

If anyone is after tracking numbers, please ask Eddie for them.

Unfortunately, the drugged up BBL sent this to his buyers on his way out. Multiple members didn't understand this was in jest and believed him. I have guys DMing me about this. Sad situation.

For the EVO family. I think it's clear BBL (Bigboylabs) is using drugs (fact admitted by him). And I think it's clear he exit scammed and stole money. This is what recreational drugs do to guys, eventually it will destroy the person.

Community request:
I would like to request our trusted and honorable vendors in the EVO family to step in and give discounts to users scammed by BBL.
Any % discount you guys feel is appropriate you can decide with the end users. I hope trusted names step in and support the EVO family.
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