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Veteran Thread The Perfect PCT Simplified!

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Awesome PCT information thank you. I have a question though about when to start a mini PCT if I’m going to run anavar with a SARMS stack. I’m new to steroids but not to SARMS, so after researching into things I think I might benefit from running my usual SARMS stack (S4 50mg, LGD 10mg, RAD 10mg) for a 12 week period, together with anavar for an 8 week period (w1 20mg for tolerance, then 30-40mg). If I run anavar in the first 8 weeks then I’ll have another 4 weeks until I start mini PCT (whilst I’m finishing the SARMS stack) - does it make sense to wait 4 weeks? I’ve read a lot of conflicting advice on when to add in the anavar so any help would be very much appreciated!

Mini PCT will be as recommended on this forum by muskate and ratified by moderators.

Thanks!!
 
Awesome PCT information thank you. I have a question though about when to start a mini PCT if I’m going to run anavar with a SARMS stack. I’m new to steroids but not to SARMS, so after researching into things I think I might benefit from running my usual SARMS stack (S4 50mg, LGD 10mg, RAD 10mg) for a 12 week period, together with anavar for an 8 week period (w1 20mg for tolerance, then 30-40mg). If I run anavar in the first 8 weeks then I’ll have another 4 weeks until I start mini PCT (whilst I’m finishing the SARMS stack) - does it make sense to wait 4 weeks? I’ve read a lot of conflicting advice on when to add in the anavar so any help would be very much appreciated!

Mini PCT will be as recommended on this forum by muskate and ratified by moderators.

Thanks!!

The mini-pct is for the sarms. I'd run a proper PCT if you're gonna add Var too.
 
Thanks Mobster. I read on this thread to use a mini PCT for Var...I’ll look into things more.

Any advice on WHEN to run the Var? - weeks 1-8 (and wait 4 weeks until mini PCT / full PCT while I’m finishing the SARMS) or weeks 5 -13 (and go straight into post cycle)?

Cheers

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(Sorry I meant weeks 5-12...!)
 
Thanks Both...if I run the Var first, is it true to say that the SARMS will keep me afloat so to speak for the last 4 weeks until PCT? If not I guess it makes more sense to time the Var with the SARMS...thanks
 
Thanks Both...if I run the Var first, is it true to say that the SARMS will keep me afloat so to speak for the last 4 weeks until PCT? If not I guess it makes more sense to time the Var with the SARMS...thanks

yes the SARMS will
 
yes the SARMS will

This chimes with what I’ve read elsewhere. But given the chat on this thread it seems like I could run the Var first or last - the general opinion indeed seems to be split either way. My girlfriend ran Var with her SARMS cycle a few months back and finished with the Var but she said she wished she’d started with the Var as she thought she could have got more out of the synergy of the two in the first 8 weeks and then reapt the rewards of the strength gains in the last 4 weeks of the SARMS only part. She wasn’t concerned about the timing of PCT though, hence my original question!
 
Do all the websites you listed ship to Australia ? I’m new so forgive me if it should be common knowledge
 
Yes great article, but really hard to get exact this products in europe. Links all i check or search buy google this allmost all out of stock. :(
 
Thank you for the knowledge. Although I'm still a bit confused what to PCT to run for a first test only cycle, I appreciate this post.
 
Hello bidet69, what did you end up taking. I'm thinking of running my first cycle also a test cyp at 300 a week. Lmk, thnx.
 
Aromasin - 10-12.5mg EOD
Does the Aromasin used in PCT apply to everyone across the board or is this on a case by case basis? The instructions didn't denote "as needed basis" or anything like that. Thanks.

EDIT: Also, when I clicked the link through to the diagram/article it specified "Enclomiphene citrate" which I understand is different than the standard Clomid found online from the majority of the UGLs. I was told that enclomiphene is better for men than clomiphene. HOwever, clomiphene is still what most UGLs sell.
 
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Does the Aromasin used in PCT apply to everyone across the board or is this on a case by case basis? The instructions didn't denote "as needed basis" or anything like that. Thanks.

EDIT: Also, when I clicked the link through to the diagram/article it specified "Enclomiphene citrate" which I understand is different than the standard Clomid found online from the majority of the UGLs. I was told that enclomiphene is better for men than clomiphene. HOwever, clomiphene is still what most UGLs sell.
@texas.redneck we discussing this in your log and we are going to put up a NEW perfect PCT 3.0 soon -
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2025-cycle-log-body-recomp-journal.105995/
 
Hi EVO Family,

We get a lot of questions on how to run a proper PCT and more specifically how to run The Perfect PCT (http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/). The purpose of this thread is to simplify everything for you.

What You Need:
-1 or 2 bottles of N2Generate ES (https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/store/n2generate-es)
-2 bottles of Cardarine (https://sarms.forsale/product/gw-501516/)
-1 bottle of Ostarine (https://sarms.forsale/product/mk-2866-2/)
-clomid (https://sarms.forsale/product/clomid-liquidclomi-50-mg-ml/) or (https://domestic-supply.com/pct/clomid/)
-nolva (https://sarms.forsale/product/nolvadex-liquidnolva-40-mg-ml/) or (https://domestic-supply.com/pct/nolvadex_tamoxifen/)
-2 bottles of N2Guard (https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/store/N2-GUARD-p75.html)
-*optional aromasin *optional (https://sarms.forsale/product/aromasin-liquidaroma-12-5-mg-ml/) or (https://domestic-supply.com/pct/examestane-aromasin/)

Breakdown By Week: *this protocol is for long ester steroid cycles*

Weeks 1 and 2

N2Generate ES - start this immediately after your last injection at 5 caps per day. This product will make you feel great on PCT by boosting your natural test production. It will also plump your nuts back up and increase libido. I recommend purchasing 2 bottles and running this for 8 weeks.

Cardarine (GW-501516) - this is a product that can really be run during your whole cycle. It will increase v02 max which makes your cardio and training easier. You will feel like you can just keep going. It will also help keep fat off while you are building muscle. A huge benefit in PCT is that it will lower cortisol levels. I recommend running it your entire cycle and PCT and then take a few weeks off after that. Take 20mg per day a couple hours before training or cardio.

N2Guard - this is the best liver and organ protector on the market. I recommend using it throughout your entire cycle. It will not only protect liver, heart, kidneys, prostate, and help cholesterol levels but it will also provide you with a ton of vitamins and minerals. Take 7 caps per day when running an oral steroid or in PCT. Take 5 caps per day if running an injectable only cycle. Run 3 caps per day year round when off cycle.

Week 3

N2Generate ES - continue taking 5 caps per day
Cardarine - continue 20mg per day
N2Guard - continue taking 7 caps per day

Clomid - 50mg per day
Nolva - 40mg per day

Aromasin - 10-12.5mg EOD

Ostarine - 25mg per day all dosed at once. Ostarine will help you hang on to muscle and even continue to make gains while on PCT. It is only minimally suppressive (around 5%). When run the short time it will be in PCT it will not negatively affect recovery.

N2Guard - continue taking 7 caps per day

Week 4

Exact same as Week 3 except:
-nolva dose drops to 20mg per day

Week 5

Exact same as Week 4 except:
-clomid dose drops to 25mg per day
-aromasin dose drops to 5-7.5mg per day

Week 6

Exact same as Week 5 except:
-Ostarine dose drops to 12.5mg per day

Week 7

Exact same as Week 6 except:
-clomid dose drops to 12.5mg per day
-nolva dose drops to 10 mg per day
-stop taking aromasin
-stop taking Ostarine

Week 8

Only run your last week of N2Generate ES this week

*Wait 3-4 weeks after this is complete and get blood work. This will tell you if you are recovered or where to go from here.

I really hope this helps to simplify things. For those that are visual, there is a chart if you click the link at the beginning of the post.

Cheers,
MasonicBB
Priceless information simplified,
Awesome 👍👍
 
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