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miahlaw13

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So, I'm appreciative of the wealth of knowledge here thus I ask more questions. I avoid tren for the sides reasons. I already cant sleep well, Im naturally a anxious high strung nervous guy, and I hear the tren sides on sleep and anxiety can be overwhelming. So, this being the case is it best I just continue my no tren stance or are these sides over exaggerated and manageable with lower doses, and if lower doses are the case is it worth running? Thanks for any info.
 
Everyone is different, only one way to find out. Just if you do, start with low dose tren A and gradually increase your dose. That way you can abort if it gets rough. You may find a sweet spot where you get good results with minimal sides.
 
FUCK YES It is worth running, Tren is King. People over-exaggerate the side bro. I was apprehensive about it too, but you wont know until you try it.

Oh yeah, it will make you work out so hard you wont have a choice but to sleep like a baby. I have no problems sleeping on it. I sweat like a pig, but sleep fine.
 
What's your cycle experience? Stats?

I use to have anxiety, but I started taking vitamin d and fish oil religiously and it cleared up. Everyone is different though
 
totally agree w gypsy tren's sides are a little exaggerated, sweat like crazy through the night, but get totally shredded on tren
 
Because it's very hard on the body and unnecessary if you can get results from less harsh drugs. It's very simple slow and steady wins this race. Why take something so early when other compounds will do the job?
 
Yes. Twice. Won't argue that it works. It's just a strong drug that needs to be used with caution. There are so many combinations of less harsh compounds to do that Tren should be saved for when you need it. Not just because it's available.
 
Reasons not to run tren... I'm drawing a blank. For me risk is worth the reward. I have run it at very low doses 200mg's a week and barely noticed sides other than complete awesomeness.

The only reason I would discourage it is if you are younger and/or inexperienced in the gym and think it's A miracle drug. Just do your homework and make sure the consequences are worth whatever goal you are trying to achieve. Anything you put in your body that isn't supposed to be there can be dangerous.
 
I love tren. I have ran it for 3 cycles no more then 300mg a week. My sides are minimal but I also do cycle support with it too. Like an AI, caber and maybe melatonin.
 
miahlaw13 said:
So, I'm appreciative of the wealth of knowledge here thus I ask more questions. I avoid tren for the sides reasons. I already cant sleep well, Im naturally a anxious high strung nervous guy, and I hear the tren sides on sleep and anxiety can be overwhelming. So, this being the case is it best I just continue my no tren stance or are these sides over exaggerated and manageable with lower doses, and if lower doses are the case is it worth running? Thanks for any info.
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Sides are extremely overrated and overexaggerated. As is most stuff I read on most threads.
 
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Because it's very hard on the body and unnecessary if you can get results from less harsh drugs. It's very simple slow and steady wins this race. Why take something so early when other compounds will do the job?

Still have a lot to learn, but just reading through all the posts I can and trying to gain as much knowledge as possible it seems as though different stuff works better for different people. Some people are super sensitive to products that aromatoze and some aren't. Some people have bad sides on tren and some don't. From what I have learned so far it may just be the perfect choice for you, but then again it may not. I say if you are going to try it start with tren ace so if you do have adverse effects you can stop it and all of it will quickly leave your system along with any sides.
 
miahlaw13 said:
So, I'm appreciative of the wealth of knowledge here thus I ask more questions. I avoid tren for the sides reasons. I already cant sleep well, Im naturally a anxious high strung nervous guy, and I hear the tren sides on sleep and anxiety can be overwhelming. So, this being the case is it best I just continue my no tren stance or are these sides over exaggerated and manageable with lower doses, and if lower doses are the case is it worth running? Thanks for any info.
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....whats up miahlaw. I can relate to not being able to sleep. When i ran tren i could only sleep 3 to 4 hrs. a night. The night sweats were horrible. I had to wash sheets every night.lol ......If you don't mind the sides it works wonders. I would run it but i am a little older so i try to go with things that are easy on the body. We use to get finaplex. Those pellets were a bitch.lol
 
poonplatoon said:
Reasons not to run tren... I'm drawing a blank. For me risk is worth the reward. I have run it at very low doses 200mg's a week and barely noticed sides other than complete awesomeness.

The only reason I would discourage it is if you are younger and/or inexperienced in the gym and think it's A miracle drug. Just do your homework and make sure the consequences are worth whatever goal you are trying to achieve. Anything you put in your body that isn't supposed to be there can be dangerous.
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.......If you going to run tren 2-3 times a year you need to get bloodwork. It's imperative to catch high liver enzymes before it does damage. If you can do that you can take pills that help it rebuild. milk thistle is a good 1
 
IMO there is no way to know how you will respond to tren untill you try it. I am a rather high strung person but was able to BLAST Tren at very high doses with minimal sides. However, regardless of whether or not you can handle the sides, Tren IS a very harsh compound. In other words, it's simply not good for you.
 
ski1717 said:
totally agree w gypsy tren's sides are a little exaggerated, sweat like crazy through the night, but get totally shredded on tren
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They are absolutely NOT exaggerated. As we all know everyone reacts differently and sides are very hardcore for some people. Let's not over generalize, fellas.


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tim-tren said:
.......If you going to run tren 2-3 times a year you need to get bloodwork. It's imperative to catch high liver enzymes before it does damage. If you can do that you can take pills that help it rebuild. milk thistle is a good 1
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Your liver is one of the only, if not THE only, organ that regenerates or rebuilds itself (other than stomach lining, which we lose several times daily). Liver protection is not for that reason, it's to help it not to get to that level of causing damage in the first place.
 
JackSteel said:
They are absolutely NOT exaggerated. As we all know everyone reacts differently and sides are very hardcore for some people. Let's not over generalize, fellas.


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I don't think everyone means tren won't make you edgy, shaky, sweaty, etc. I think they mean you pretty much won't go on a homocidal killing spree from 'roid rage due to tren. I always use 600-800mg/week for 8-12 weeks, and I have no sides at all other than a SMALL bit of trouble falling to sleep, and sweating a little, 24/7. But yes, everyone may not react the same way.
 
thanks for all the Reponses. To answer some questions, Ive ran two aas cycles, ran 3 ph cycles I believe, and am currently cruising on test E. I have mast prop and eq, test cyp, test E and sust, plus letro and nolva in my stash. I'm getting ready to run a short ester cycle just haven't figured out exactly what yet. Don't know where to get caber but im sure that's not to hard to accomplish with a little searching.
I always run liver support. I research more than I sleep. But I like to ask real people and get real answers. For instance I read mast prop was great for athletes, asked on here and was way off and set straight, did a little more better research and what I was told on here was spot on to what mast prop is best used for...thus, everything you read isn't always the case..usually not actually.
I don't have anxiety really, I'm just high strung and don't want to have it as I have had it before and it sucks. I already night sweat like a mofo so if it got worse yikes, I might dround... Anyway I have plenty to hold me over and much to learn before I consider buying some tren....I would absolutely start my dose very low and slowly increase, responsibly, and see how I reacted. Thanks again.
 
one more thing, from what I've read, as far as aas all I should run with tren is test, or all I need to. Something like 500mg-750mg test to 200mg tren a week to start and then work my way up to 400mg tren? Is this sensible or is 200mg tren to low to bother.
 
I had good results with 200mg's my first run I am only bumping up to 300mg's for my next go round. I was running test at 500mg's at the time.
 
if you are making good gains with other compounds, why use it...>>>>>>>>>>>?????

if not, why not try a small dose???
 
if you have existing anxiety and insomnia then tren will make those worse.

pick something else. just being real with you. if you read on forums guys bitch about tren sides and then you have guys say it doesn't bother them. I am confident with your 2 existing problems tren will not make you a happy camper and make people around you pissed too

gym rat is right. there are others to choose from. why make yourself suffer?
 
saleen556 said:
Because it's very hard on the body and unnecessary if you can get results from less harsh drugs. It's very simple slow and steady wins this race. Why take something so early when other compounds will do the job?
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.........I couldn't agree more. I took tren a. for 6 weeks and had blood work done and my enzymes were high. If you or anybody runs tren you should get bloodwork. I have been taking gear a long time so that might have caused it but i wouldn't have known without getting the bloodwork done.
 
Tren does work though. I started will 1ml/e.d. I couldn't sleep so i went down to 1/2ml/e.d. Once i went down to 0.5ml i was good. I was able to sleep 4-6 hrs. a night. ------If you plan on juicing for a long time you might want to stick with aas that isn't hard on your liver. IMO
 
I've seen allot of guys get shredded doing Tren... but you could run test prop/winny/Sarms and have your shit dialed in looking great.

I had some pictures my wife took of me painting when I had some prop and Var and I looked damn good.
 
If you are a person who has a lot of drama in your life right now I may wait to try tren. You will have a lot of time to lay awake at night thinking about your problems and how to deal with them. And when I say drama I am talking about with your wife!! I am not a suspicious type of person. But I am on high doses of npp and tren. Every guy she works with makes me mad. I think she is being to friendly if she laughed at a joke a male coworker said. She is not a flirt. And she's never had any inappropriate actions toward any other man. but I get very jealous when running big doses of any of these drugs. These are just the facts I thought they should be mentioned if a person has any of these types of issues with their wife. Because you can have some strange thoughts when you're laying for hours and hours awake at night. Besides that I think it is the best steroid ever made!!! I absolutely love it.
 
I'm not gonna tell you not to run..I love tren but you btr be ready for it and know what your doing
 
miahlaw13 said:
So, I'm appreciative of the wealth of knowledge here thus I ask more questions. I avoid tren for the sides reasons. I already cant sleep well, Im naturally a anxious high strung nervous guy, and I hear the tren sides on sleep and anxiety can be overwhelming. So, this being the case is it best I just continue my no tren stance or are these sides over exaggerated and manageable with lower doses, and if lower doses are the case is it worth running? Thanks for any info.
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That is a very hard question because people respond different to different compounds.Give it a run, you might have almost no sides.Just run ace,so if you dont like the outcome, it can clear your system fastest.Also use gw 501516 with it, it minimize some of the side effects , you might encounter.
 
It's really impossible to answer because everyone reacts to drugs differently. Tren is definitely not for everyone, but for those that handle it well, there's simply nothing better. It is by far my favorite drug. I get very little side effects on Tren at all. I'm calm as a calf and sleep like a baby on it. I had night sweats for a couple weeks the first time I used it, and virtually none since. Some people also have blood sugar issues with Tren. Luckily for me, I've never had the issue and can even do fasted training without any issues. My blood sugar is very stable on it.

One thing worth mentioning is that I will not run Tren without GW. It helps drastically with side effects. It improves lipids and blood pressure, helps improve negative cardio aspects and endurance from Tren, and helps regulate blood sugar by forcing your body to burn fat instead of carbs. It's truly a game changer.
 
there is no debating that it flat out works and it can work magic on people... if anyone says otherwise, the are simply full of shit... HOWEVER, to also say that it is not one of the harshest things you can run, its also bull shit... is it overblown at times, absolutely... there are several reasons for that... i've seen it all with tren.. i've seen guys that cannot even be in the same damn room as it without getting sides (okay, that's overblown but the point is that they can barely dose it and it eats them up) where i've seen others that literally cruise with it and have no problems... the POSSIBILITIES of severe side effects MOST CERTAINLY are there... I think the thing that should be stressed more so with tren use is FULLY UNDERSTANDING what your using... this should hold true for everything, obviously, but ESPECIALLY here due to the possibilities of what could occur with use... i can tell you that its an extremely poor choice to use on a first cycle... that I stand by a million percent... just knowing the possible sides make it something that i generally recommend to use for people that are serious competitors, pros etc. as there are many other alternatives with less worry but the only true way to know for yourself is to see how YOU react and respond to it... noone can decide that for you... JUST FULLY KNOW AND UNDERSTAND what and how to run it and MAKE SURE you cover yourself all the way around with ancillaries, extensive pct etc..
 
do hard work and test, a sarm.or anavar, primo if can afford what ever happened to visually seeing change from genetics and hard work mind over matter 92 Mr.teen mo. natural hard work and protein I just did primo for diet last two months build real muscle first

caveman72 using not abusing
 
Sides alone are enough for me. I was a pissed off mofo all the time. But I once bench pressed a bus with one hand while I was on it.. :-D
 
Mattdogg said:
I don't think everyone means tren won't make you edgy, shaky, sweaty, etc. I think they mean you pretty much won't go on a homocidal killing spree from 'roid rage due to tren. I always use 600-800mg/week for 8-12 weeks, and I have no sides at all other than a SMALL bit of trouble falling to sleep, and sweating a little, 24/7. But yes, everyone may not react the same way.
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Well no of course it won't make you homicidal but some people are homicidal when they get enraged which can happen in tren. But the sleep and night sweats can be brutal as well as aggression for some. I walk around pissed off usually when I'm on it and therefore get upset over dumb stuff. Really unpleasant to be around me if you're my girl lol


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JackSteel said:
Well no of course it won't make you homicidal but some people are homicidal when they get enraged which can happen in tren. But the sleep and night sweats can be brutal as well as aggression for some. I walk around pissed off usually when I'm on it and therefore get upset over dumb stuff. Really unpleasant to be around me if you're my girl lol


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Some are already on the edge of being a criminal is what I mean.


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I'm ADHD and OCD so tren puts me on the edge of flipping out, but many of AAS do that to me. Tren gives me a touch of insomnia and slightly elevated metabolism and heartrate. I tend to sweat a little all day, it increases a little at night, probably because of the covers. I'm hoping I'm not on the edge of being a criminal - I outgrew that a few years back. :)
 
Hey poonplatoon, did you inject ED? Or EOD? Also, did you adjust the dose often? Just curious because I have a friend who's about to run his last cycle and has never done tren so I'm trying to reassure him that he can adjust with no additional sides.
 
Red15 said:
Hey poonplatoon, did you inject ED? Or EOD? Also, did you adjust the dose often? Just curious because I have a friend who's about to run his last cycle and has never done tren so I'm trying to reassure him that he can adjust with no additional sides.
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Then you want tren acetate eod or e3d.
 
Mattdogg said:
I'm ADHD and OCD so tren puts me on the edge of flipping out, but many of AAS do that to me. Tren gives me a touch of insomnia and slightly elevated metabolism and heartrate. I tend to sweat a little all day, it increases a little at night, probably because of the covers. I'm hoping I'm not on the edge of being a criminal - I outgrew that a few years back. :)
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I'm growing out of being a pussy and into being a criminal 😜


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I can just tell you the side effects that I experience from tren.

loss of appetite,
Acne......very bad acne,
Increased aggression to the point I dont feel myself anymore,
Night sweats and very gross especially with lady friends,
Hair loss (comes back but I have noticed thinning when running it....chicks dig the locks)
Makes other compounds seem weak and unappealing,
Skin looks like I have been taken through a barrage of sediment
High anxiety and if you already have high anxiety it sucks to be constantly thinking (is this bitch cheating on me?)
Liver damage
Kidney damage
Overall health risks

Now a lot have posted and said well it depends on how well your body can handle it and what sides you get is different for everyone ...... this is true to a point but nothing will ever replace the fact that regardless it is a very very harsh compound to put into your body. (Compared to other AAS)
 
I have some anxiety issues and insomnia that I'm on meds for. Personally I do fine with tren since I'm on meds and treating the other issues. Everyone is different.
 
texas monster said:
I can just tell you the side effects that I experience from tren.

loss of appetite,
Acne......very bad acne,
Increased aggression to the point I dont feel myself anymore,
Night sweats and very gross especially with lady friends,
Hair loss (comes back but I have noticed thinning when running it....chicks dig the locks)
Makes other compounds seem weak and unappealing,
Skin looks like I have been taken through a barrage of sediment
High anxiety and if you already have high anxiety it sucks to be constantly thinking (is this bitch cheating on me?)
Liver damage
Kidney damage
Overall health risks

Now a lot have posted and said well it depends on how well your body can handle it and what sides you get is different for everyone ...... this is true to a point but nothing will ever replace the fact that regardless it is a very very harsh compound to put into your body. (Compared to other AAS)
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looks like not worth it...
why there are not other short ester compounds except test p / masteron / tren A!! damn it :)
 
meathead96 said:
I have some anxiety issues and insomnia that I'm on meds for. Personally I do fine with tren since I'm on meds and treating the other issues. Everyone is different.
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this. I'm on bp meds and valium so it helps a lot

Also aggression through the roof, but easily controlled if you are a naturally happy person around positive people
Anxiety is complete shite if u feel uncomfortable.
Acne goes away quick with panthonetic acid 500mg /twice day
hair thin, but controlled with regenepure/n2shampoo
wake up once a night usually , day sweats like crazy(like in hot bangkok though so x2 worse)

increase in appetite.
results seen within week.
sleep like a baby
get tired by 9pm, out of shape by 10pm and sleeping

for instance was with a woman the other day, and she is a banging thai/muslim, and some indian fuck said something to her, and i said u can get fucked too bro, about to eat his head off and kill him, literally about to rip through my skin.

but when im with a woman, there is no difference on or off tren, and my member works, and I'm a sensitive and happy person at nature so I'm no different .

don't recommend u take tren op
 
Some people don't get sides. If you do they are not that and you can always lower it or stop but when you see how great that stuff is your not going to want to.
 
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