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doomslayer28

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Hey guys,
Just completed a bulking cycle of 15 weeks and it was a big success, I went from incline benching 135 for 12 reps to 225lbs for 4 reps, hammer strength rowing 5 plates when I started at 2 plates, clean and press started at 135 for 6 and went up to 185 for 4, Overhead dumbell extension started at 80lbs for 6 now I'm doing 105lbs for 6. So I definitely put on alot of strength and size, probably the most successful cycle I've done, I made more progress in 15 weeks than I ever have before and used the half the drugs.

My bulking cycle I used
200mg of test cypionate a week
200mg of trenbolone enanthate a week
300mg of equipoise a week
50mg of anadrol a day
50mg of winstrol a day

This next cycle is a bulking cycle too, but I'm doubling the dose and changing out equipoise for masteron and anadrol for dbol, I have more money to buy more gear so that's why there is a difference in doses In the first bulk vs this one
Picture attached is me at the end of the first bulk

400mg of testosterone cypionate a week
400mg of trenbolone enanthate a week
400mg of masteron enanthate a week
50mg of dianabol
50mg of winstrol
25mg of mk677
20mg of cardarine
 

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doomslayer28 said:
Hey guys,
Just completed a bulking cycle of 15 weeks and it was a big success, I went from incline benching 135 for 12 reps to 225lbs for 4 reps, hammer strength rowing 5 plates when I started at 2 plates, clean and press started at 135 for 6 and went up to 185 for 4, Overhead dumbell extension started at 80lbs for 6 now I'm doing 105lbs for 6. So I definitely put on alot of strength and size, probably the most successful cycle I've done, I made more progress in 15 weeks than I ever have before and used the half the drugs.

My bulking cycle I used
200mg of test cypionate a week
200mg of trenbolone enanthate a week
300mg of equipoise a week
50mg of anadrol a day
50mg of winstrol a day

This next cycle is a bulking cycle too, but I'm doubling the dose and changing out equipoise for masteron and anadrol for dbol, I have more money to buy more gear so that's why there is a difference in doses In the first bulk vs this one
Picture attached is me at the end of the first bulk

400mg of testosterone cypionate a week
400mg of trenbolone enanthate a week
400mg of masteron enanthate a week
50mg of dianabol
50mg of winstrol
25mg of mk677
20mg of cardarine
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doomslayer28 said:
Thanks man, I put my heart in soul into this one despite doing it on half the steroids I usually use. I can't wait to up the dose and really see what that does comparably to using half.
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Sometimes less is more. You’d be surprised how far a lower dose of anabolics can take you if you’ve got everything else dialled in.

There are also other pathways to utilise like GH and slin to reduce to aas load on your body

That being said your cycles aren’t looking over the top at all, I’ve seen guys who barely look like they lift pushing grams of gear
 
doomslayer28 said:
Hey guys,
Just completed a bulking cycle of 15 weeks and it was a big success, I went from incline benching 135 for 12 reps to 225lbs for 4 reps, hammer strength rowing 5 plates when I started at 2 plates, clean and press started at 135 for 6 and went up to 185 for 4, Overhead dumbell extension started at 80lbs for 6 now I'm doing 105lbs for 6. So I definitely put on alot of strength and size, probably the most successful cycle I've done, I made more progress in 15 weeks than I ever have before and used the half the drugs.

My bulking cycle I used
200mg of test cypionate a week
200mg of trenbolone enanthate a week
300mg of equipoise a week
50mg of anadrol a day
50mg of winstrol a day

This next cycle is a bulking cycle too, but I'm doubling the dose and changing out equipoise for masteron and anadrol for dbol, I have more money to buy more gear so that's why there is a difference in doses In the first bulk vs this one
Picture attached is me at the end of the first bulk

400mg of testosterone cypionate a week
400mg of trenbolone enanthate a week
400mg of masteron enanthate a week
50mg of dianabol
50mg of winstrol
25mg of mk677
20mg of cardarine
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@doomslayer28 welcome to the EVO family! NICE body, you look amazing, TIGHT!

you put in your title "cutting cycle" but in your post you say "bulking cycle" again
so which is it, cutting or bulking?

and is this your LOG journal start? tell us so we can label and approved the LOG because we'd love to see you share a Log with the community.
 
nice job man you getting stronger
please put up a log let's see
 
log this one for sure
it will be an incredible run
 
looking forward to seeing updates on this cycle
this is a crazy cycle lots of different things you're mixing in
 
you've made some big improvements so far which is great
now next step is for you to keep pushing harder
 
looking forward to seeing your updates
when can we see your next log
 
Thanks for the warm welcome guys, oh yeah I said this would be a cut in the title but Im just gonna keep bulking for another 15 weeks to see how the masteron and dianabol do, then, I'll do the cut with the same cycle, I am gonna do a log of it, so I'll be posting my macros, calories, ancillary supplements, and weightraining log with weight reps sets and exercises. Here's another progression picture, I didn't gain a ton of weight on the scale but I got stronger, leaner and bigger.
 

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Ancillaries
1000mg of tudca
Milk thistle
Grapeseed extract
High quality tumeric extract
1200mg Green tea extract
200mg coq10
Trans reserveratrol
Fish oil pills
Dha and epa liquid
NAC
D3 10000
Multivitamin
Calcium magnesium zinc
Lutein

My weekly split

Monday, 2 hours chest 15 minutes forearms, 1 hour calves, 1 hour legs
Tuesdy 2 hours, 15 minutes forearms, 1 hour calves, 1 hour legs
Wednesday rest
Thursday, 2 hours shoulders, 15 minutes forearms, 1 hour calves, 1 hour legs
Friday, 2 hours arms, 15 minutes forearms, 1 hour calves, 1 hour legs

Generally I spend 4 hours in the gym daily four times a week, so about 16 hours total training time in the gym Weekly

My nutrition basically comes out to 4500 kcals when bulking, about 3000 kcals pre workout, 1500 kcals post workout.
 
doomslayer28 said:
Ancillaries
1000mg of tudca
Milk thistle
Grapeseed extract
High quality tumeric extract
1200mg Green tea extract
200mg coq10
Trans reserveratrol
Fish oil pills
Dha and epa liquid
NAC
D3 10000
Multivitamin
Calcium magnesium zinc
Lutein

My weekly split

Monday, 2 hours chest 15 minutes forearms, 1 hour calves, 1 hour legs
Tuesdy 2 hours, 15 minutes forearms, 1 hour calves, 1 hour legs
Wednesday rest
Thursday, 2 hours shoulders, 15 minutes forearms, 1 hour calves, 1 hour legs
Friday, 2 hours arms, 15 minutes forearms, 1 hour calves, 1 hour legs

Generally I spend 4 hours in the gym daily four times a week, so about 16 hours total training time in the gym Weekly

My nutrition basically comes out to 4500 kcals when bulking, about 3000 kcals pre workout, 1500 kcals post workout.
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Meant to say Tuesday, 2 hours back
 
doomslayer28 said:
Thanks for the warm welcome guys, oh yeah I said this would be a cut in the title but Im just gonna keep bulking for another 15 weeks to see how the masteron and dianabol do, then, I'll do the cut with the same cycle, I am gonna do a log of it, so I'll be posting my macros, calories, ancillary supplements, and weightraining log with weight reps sets and exercises. Here's another progression picture, I didn't gain a ton of weight on the scale but I got stronger, leaner and bigger.
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doomslayer28 said:
Ancillaries
1000mg of tudca
Milk thistle
Grapeseed extract
High quality tumeric extract
1200mg Green tea extract
200mg coq10
Trans reserveratrol
Fish oil pills
Dha and epa liquid
NAC
D3 10000
Multivitamin
Calcium magnesium zinc
Lutein

My weekly split

Monday, 2 hours chest 15 minutes forearms, 1 hour calves, 1 hour legs
Tuesdy 2 hours, 15 minutes forearms, 1 hour calves, 1 hour legs
Wednesday rest
Thursday, 2 hours shoulders, 15 minutes forearms, 1 hour calves, 1 hour legs
Friday, 2 hours arms, 15 minutes forearms, 1 hour calves, 1 hour legs

Generally I spend 4 hours in the gym daily four times a week, so about 16 hours total training time in the gym Weekly

My nutrition basically comes out to 4500 kcals when bulking, about 3000 kcals pre workout, 1500 kcals post workout.
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@doomslayer28 this is going to be a good log thanks for sharing :)

a few things we need in detail as we go

diet training
diet, please share actual meals foods and what you eat as you go
training, please share exercises sets and reps and weights and cardio as we go
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

pics
please share pics of you face blurred
pics of your meals
pics of your training
pics of your supps you take
and pics of gear

keep sharing we all following :)
 
As for my meals I generally have the same thing everyday,

Meal 1, total kcals about 1800 to 2000

50grams protein powder, with 2 cup whole milk [620 kcals]
8 to 10oz of chicken pan fried with 2 tbsp olive oil [ 511kcals]
Fruit smoothie consisting of 100grams red apple, 3/5cup of oats, 1.7 cup orange juice, 1 lemon, 1 lime, , 1 orange, 1.5 cup bluerries [around 700kcals, 150 grams of carbs]
1 cup of cereal "banana nut crunch" (250kcals, 50grams of carbs]

Meal 2 : total kcals about 1200, about 150grams of carbs

2 tbsp peanut butter, 2 slices daves bread, 2 tbsp sugar free jelly [440kcals, 50grams of carbs]
1 suero rehydration rtd [100cals, 25grams dextrose]
1 cup cereal banana nut crunch [250kcals, about 50grams of carbs]
1 orange (80 kcals, about 25grams of carbs]
50grams protein powder [about 300kcals]
1 cup frosted mini wheats ( 190 kcals, about 50 grams of carbs)

post workout
50 grams protein powder, 2 cups whole milk, [about 620kcals]

Meal 3 about 1500kcals

10oz of chicken breast, 2 tbsp of olive oil [511kcals]

Fruit smoothie again, 100 grams apple, 1 cup oats, 1 cup Blueberries, 1 orange, 1 tbsp chia seeds, 1 banana, 1 lemon, 1 lime [about 150grams of carbs, 700 total kcals]

100grams of cucumber
100grams of broccoli with lite ranch
100grams cherry tomato
100 grams mini bell pepper

Meal 4, generally if I get hungry and am still awake, or if I feel flat from intense training

4 to 6 oz of pasta, 400 to 600kcals around 100grams of carbs
1/2 cup Alfredo sauce [200kcals]
1/2 cup red pasta sauce (100kcals]

Macros
Around 300-350 grams of protein
About 500 to 600 grams of carbs
About 150 grams of fat
 
As for training

Chest 5 sets 4 exercises of pyramid drop sets
Exercise 1
1. Incline barbell press
Set 1. 185lbs x 6 reps
drop set of 165lbs x 6 reps
Set 2. 205lbs x 6 reps
drop set to 185lbs x 6 reps
Set 3. 225lbs x 4 to 6 reps
drop set to 205lbs x 4 to 6 reps
triple drop set of 185 For 4 to 6 reps
Set 4. 205lbs for 4 to 6 reps
Drop set of 185lbs 4 to 6 reps
Set 5. 205lbs for 6 reps
Drop set of 185lbs 4 to 6 reps
Final set, triple drop set of 165lb til failure

Exercise 2 flat dumbell flyes
Set 1. 50lbs x 6 reps
Drop set of 45lbs x 6 reps
Set 2. 55lbs x 6 reps
Drop set of 50lbs x 6 reps
Set 3. 60lbs x 6 reps
Drop set of 55lbs x 6 reps
Triple drop set of 45 to 50lbs x 6 reps til failure
Set 4. 55lbs x 6 reps
Drop set 45lbs to 50 lbs x 4 to 6 reps til failure
Set 5. 55lbs x 6 reps
Drop set 45lbs to 50lbs x 4 to 6 reps
Drop set of 40lbs to 45lbs to failure

Exercise 3. hammer strength flat plate loaded press

Set 1. 6 reps of 140lbs
Drop set of 120lbs x 6 reps
Set 2. 6 reps of 160lbs
Drop set of 140lbs x 6 reps
Set 3. 6 reps of 180lbs
Drop set of 160lbs x 4 to 6 reps
Triple drop set of 140lbs x 4 to 6 reps
Set 4. 6 reps of 160lbs
Drop set of 140lbs x 4 to 6 reps
Set 5 6 reps of 160lbs
Drop set of 140lbs x 4 to 6 reps
Final set, triple drop set of 120lbs til failure

Cable flyes I do it on a specific machine so I'm not sure listing the weight would resonate with anyone ill list my maxes anyways that I've logged

Exercise 4, cable cross overs
Set 1. 19.5lbs x 6 to 12 reps
Drop set of 18lbs 6 to 12 reps
Set 2. 21lbs x 6 to 12 reps
Drop set of 19.5lbs 6 to 12 reps
Set 3 22lbs x 6 to 12 reps
Drop set of 19.5lbs x 6 to 12 reps
If I have the energy, triple drop set of 18lbs 6 to 12 reps to failure
Set 4. 21lbs x 6 to 12 reps
Drop set to 19.5lbs x 6 to 12 reps
Set 5 21lbs x 6 to 12 reps
Drop set to 19.5lbs x 6 to 12 reps
Triple drop set 18lbs x 6 to 12 reps til failure

Forearm curls
Set 1 60lbs x 20 reps
Drop set 50lbs x 20 reps til failure
Set 2 70lbs x 15 to 20 reps
Drop set 60lbs x 20 reps til failure
Set 3 70lbs x 15 to 20 reps
Drop set of 60lbs x 20 reps til failure
Set 4 60lbs x 20 reps til failure
Drop set of 50lbs x 20 reps til failure
Set 5 60lbs x 20 reps til failure
Drop set x 20 reps til failure

Legs
5 sets of standing calve raises x 30 reps or more drop sets if the first set doesn't reach 30 reps
5 Sets of seated calve raises x 30 reps of more, drop sets if the first set doesn't reach 30 reps.

Leg press,
12 reps of 5 plates as a warm up
First set. 6 plates of 12 reps
Drop set to 5 plates for 6 reps
Second set. 7 plates for 6 reps
Drop set to 6 plates for 6 to 12 reps
Third set. 8 plates 4 to 6 reps
Drop set of 7 reps 4 to 6 reps
Fourth set. 7 plates - 4 to 6 reps
Drop set 6 plates, 4 to 6 reps til failure
Fifth set 6 plates 6 to 12 reps
Drop set to 5 plates 6 to 12 reps til failure

Hamstring curl
First set. 128lbs x 6 to 12 reps
Drop set of 120lbs x 6 to 12 reps
Second set. 138lbs x 6 to 12 reps
Drop set of 128lbs x 6 to 12 reps
Third set. 148lbs x 4 to 6 reps
Drop set of 138lbs 4 to 6 reps
Fourth set 138lbs 4 to 6 reps
Drop set of 128lbs as many reps as possible
Fifth set 138lbs 4 to 6 reps
Drop set of 128lbs as many reps as possible.

That's it for Monday lol
 
Can anyone tell me why I'm not gaining weight on the scale, but getting progressively leaner, bigger and stronger, I'm in a caloric surplus even, and the days that I do train, if I do everything right i.e 2 hours upper body 2 hours legs, I almost always lose 2kg the next morning, and I know that's not from muscle, pretty sure it's water and fat. But I'm perplexed why this cycle I didn't put nearly any weight on the scale while getting this much bigger and stronger. I mean if I lose weight on a heavy training day when I'm in a caloric surplus does that mean I'm burning more calories than I consumed?
 
Mobster said:
90lb jump, even allowing for less reps, is huge!
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Yeah prior to this I had been out of the gym for half a year, alot of the bench increase was probably due to muscle memory because I have been at 225lbs on Incline before, but I definitely worked hard, harder than I've ever trained in my life tbh
 
doomslayer28 said:
Can anyone tell me why I'm not gaining weight on the scale, but getting progressively leaner, bigger and stronger, I'm in a caloric surplus even, and the days that I do train, if I do everything right i.e 2 hours upper body 2 hours legs, I almost always lose 2kg the next morning, and I know that's not from muscle, pretty sure it's water and fat. But I'm perplexed why this cycle I didn't put nearly any weight on the scale while getting this much bigger and stronger. I mean if I lose weight on a heavy training day when I'm in a caloric surplus does that mean I'm burning more calories than I consumed?
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the scale lies is why.

water retention can cause weight to go up 5-6 pounds. if you want that then hop on some dbol with no Ai and you will gain body weight. but what is the point of that?

the point of bodybuilding is to look better in the mirror, they don't weigh you in to determine success
 
doomslayer28 said:
Hey guys,
Just completed a bulking cycle of 15 weeks and it was a big success, I went from incline benching 135 for 12 reps to 225lbs for 4 reps, hammer strength rowing 5 plates when I started at 2 plates, clean and press started at 135 for 6 and went up to 185 for 4, Overhead dumbell extension started at 80lbs for 6 now I'm doing 105lbs for 6. So I definitely put on alot of strength and size, probably the most successful cycle I've done, I made more progress in 15 weeks than I ever have before and used the half the drugs.

My bulking cycle I used
200mg of test cypionate a week
200mg of trenbolone enanthate a week
300mg of equipoise a week
50mg of anadrol a day
50mg of winstrol a day

This next cycle is a bulking cycle too, but I'm doubling the dose and changing out equipoise for masteron and anadrol for dbol, I have more money to buy more gear so that's why there is a difference in doses In the first bulk vs this one
Picture attached is me at the end of the first bulk

400mg of testosterone cypionate a week
400mg of trenbolone enanthate a week
400mg of masteron enanthate a week
50mg of dianabol
50mg of winstrol
25mg of mk677
20mg of cardarine
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Looking great brother you definitely have an amazing physique 💪looking forward to seeing what you going to achieve!
 
why would you worry about gaining weight
you look solid the Way You Are
 
don't push yourself to look sloppy
I would focus on looking good in the mirror
 
you are bodybuilding here you're not trying to gain weight
let the pictures and let the mirror tell the truth
 
four hours a day in the gym wow
you are crazy man
 
how do you have so much time in your day to go to the gym for four hours?
most people on here complain they don't have time
 
looking forward to seeing you continue to kick ass
we want to make sure that you don't over-train as well
 
you certainly stay lean with all your exercise
you're burning a ton of calories it's insane
 
You can't run tren 15 weeks
 
doomslayer28 said:
Hey guys,
Just completed a bulking cycle of 15 weeks and it was a big success, I went from incline benching 135 for 12 reps to 225lbs for 4 reps, hammer strength rowing 5 plates when I started at 2 plates, clean and press started at 135 for 6 and went up to 185 for 4, Overhead dumbell extension started at 80lbs for 6 now I'm doing 105lbs for 6. So I definitely put on alot of strength and size, probably the most successful cycle I've done, I made more progress in 15 weeks than I ever have before and used the half the drugs.

My bulking cycle I used
200mg of test cypionate a week
200mg of trenbolone enanthate a week
300mg of equipoise a week
50mg of anadrol a day
50mg of winstrol a day

This next cycle is a bulking cycle too, but I'm doubling the dose and changing out equipoise for masteron and anadrol for dbol, I have more money to buy more gear so that's why there is a difference in doses In the first bulk vs this one
Picture attached is me at the end of the first bulk

400mg of testosterone cypionate a week
400mg of trenbolone enanthate a week
400mg of masteron enanthate a week
50mg of dianabol
50mg of winstrol
25mg of mk677
20mg of cardarine
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Looks solid
 
Npcclassicphysique champ said:
@doomslayer28 you're right you CAN but SHOULD you? ;) different views here bro
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Can and will, blast that shit all year long lmao
caligirl85 said:
how do you have so much time in your day to go to the gym for four hours?
most people on here complain they don't have time
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You have to make sacrifices to make time. we all have time, but how much time are you truly willing to spend to be successful. I prepare the night before, so there's no wasted time inbetween and I can seamlessly go to the gym and get back, if I stay up alittle long at night, eating or etc, okay, that's what it takes.
 
doomslayer28 said:
Can and will, blast that shit all year long lmao

You have to make sacrifices to make time. we all have time, but how much time are you truly willing to spend to be successful. I prepare the night before, so there's no wasted time inbetween and I can seamlessly go to the gym and get back, if I stay up alittle long at night, eating or etc, okay, that's what it takes.
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@doomslayer28 you're big so you can do it
lets see some training UPDATES :)
 
Just make sure u don't run into health issues and injuries because some of your view points are a but questionable with tren for 15 weeks and the over training you are doing, sacrifice is one thing beating your body into the ground and do more damage then what is needed is a whole different thing.

Welcome into the community I wish u the best just be careful is all.
 
Noah Wixx said:
Just make sure u don't run into health issues and injuries because some of your view points are a but questionable with tren for 15 weeks and the over training you are doing, sacrifice is one thing beating your body into the ground and do more damage then what is needed is a whole different thing.

Welcome into the community I wish u the best just be careful is all.
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Thanks man, I have not done bloods but I'm pretty sure I am very very healthy despite blasting, never encountered jaundice, my blood pressure is normal, resting heartbeat is very low, the majority of my carbs pre and post workout come from fruits, and I have had 500grams of weight in vegetables everyday. I'm also running a full spectrum of support supplements like tumeric, green tea extract, trans reserveratrol, grape seed extract, tudca, lutein, NAC and Alpha lipoic acid, and Hawthorne berry. I know 4 hours seems over the top, but remember too, I only train 4 hours a day 4 days out of the week, I spend 3 full days out of the week resting. You could say im "over training" , but I have come to the conclusion that if I am not training 4 hours a day in this way, I'm really just wasting the steroids at the doses I'm running them. If I'm gonna run steroids, if im gonna pay this much money for them, and commit to eating all this food etc. I want to commit to routine that is difficult, if it's not difficult, where's the glory or the challenge, and if it's not challenging you're not growing. If I was overtraining I wouldn't be able to put 10lbs on most lifts week after week as I have been, and I've encountered overtraining many times before, for me it comes in the form of my body hurting so bad that I am not able to sleep or stay sleep very long, which I have not encountered yet. Anyways, I really have nothing better to do than to train 4 hours a day.
 
You have a LOT to learn. When you do that you will have a very successful bodybuilding career. You are so raw with talent but you lack the knowledge. Your overtraining big time. You won’t waste the steroids unless you go on never ending cycles which it looks you are. Slow down and read my log you will learn a lot. Good luck and if you ever need advice on how to become a mass monster and stay healthy just ask away. I have faith in you.
 
I will be posting more when my shipment gets here with the dianabol and masteron, But here's what I did for back training today.

4 Exercises 5 sets of pyramid style drop sets

Exercise 1
Wide neutral grip lat pull down
Set 1. 145lbs for 6 - 12 reps
Drop set of 135lbs for 6 reps
Set 2. 155lbs for 6 reps
Drop set of 145lbs for 6 reps
Set 3. 165lbs for 4 reps
Drop set of 155lbs for 4 reps
Triple drop set of 145lbs of 4 to 6 reps til failure
Set 4. 155lbs for 6 reps
Drop set of 145 for 6 reps
Set 5 155lbs for 4 to 6 reps
Drop set of 145 for 4 to 6 reps
Triple drop set of 135 til failure

Exercise 2, 1 arm plate loaded hammerstrength row
Set 1. 180lbs [ 4plates] for 6 to 12 reps
Drop set to 160lbs for 6 to 12 reps
Set 2. 200lbs for 6 reps
Drop set to 180lbs for 6 reps
Set 3. 220lbs for 4 to 6 reps
Drop set to 200lbs for 4 to 6 reps
Triple drop set to 180lbs 4 to 6 til failure
Set 4. 200lbs for 6 reps
Drop set to 180lbs for 6 to 12 reps to failure
Set 5. 200lbs for 6 reps
Drop set to 180lbs for 6 reps
Triple drop set to 160lbs for 6 reps til failure

Exercise 3, Underhand 1 arm hammer strength row
Set 1. (2 plates and a 25lb)
115lbs for 6 to 12 reps
Drop set of 95lbs for 6 to 12 reps
Set 2. 135lbs for 6 reps
Drop set of 115lbs for 6 to 12 reps
Set 3. 145lbs for 4 to 6 reps
Drop set of 135lbs for 4 to 6 reps
Triple drop set of 125lbs for 4 to 6 reps to failure.
Set 4. 135lbs for 6 reps
Drop set of 125lbs for 6 reps
Set 4. 135lbs for 6 reps
Drop set of 125lbs for 6 reps
Triple drop set of 115lbs til failure

Exercise 4. Seated cable row
Set 1. 175lbs for 6 to 12 reps
Drop set of 165lbs for 6 to 12 reps
Set 2. 190lbs for 6 reps
Drop set of 175lbs for 6 reps
Set 3. 205lbs for 4 to 6 reps
Drop set of 190lbs for 6 reps
Triple drop set of 175lbs til failure (4 to 6 reps)
Set 4. 190lbs for 6 reps
Drop set of 175lbs for 6 reps
Set 5. 190lbs for 6 reps
Drop set if 175lbs for 6 reps
Triple drop of 165lbs, 4 to 6 reps til failure

Forearms
Set 1. 60lbs x 20 reps
Drop set of 50lbs x 15 to 20 reps
Set 2. 70lbs x 20 reps
Drop set of 60lbs x 15 to 20 reps
Set 3. 70lbs x 15 reps
Drop set of 60lbs x 15 to 20 reps
Set 4. 60lbs x 20 reps
Drop set of 50lbs x 20 reps
Set 5. 60lbs x 20 reps

Legs
75lbs on all sets, no pyramid sets like on upper body,
5 sets of standing calve raises x 30 reps or more, drop sets if the first set doesn't reach 30 reps
5 Sets of seated calve raises x 30 reps of more, drop sets if the first set doesn't reach 30 reps.

Leg press,
12 reps of 5 plates as a warm up
First set. 6 plates, 14 reps
Drop set to 5 plates for 6 reps
Second set. 7 plates for 7 to 8 reps
Drop set to 6 plates for 6 to 12 reps
Third set. 8 plates 6 reps this time
Drop set of 7 plates 5 reps
Fourth set. 7 plates - 6 reps
Drop set 6 plates 6 reps
Fifth set 6 plates 12 reps
Drop set to 5 plates 6 to 12 reps til failure

Hamstring curl
First set. 128lbs x 12 reps
Drop set of 120lbs x 8 reps
Second set. 138lbs x 8reps
Drop set of 128lbs x 6 reps
Third set. 148lbs x 6 reps
Drop set of 138lbs x 4 reps
Fourth set 138lbs x 6 reps
Drop set of 128lbs as many reps as possible
Fifth set 138lbs 6 reps
Drop set of 128lbs as many reps as possible.
 

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RoidRage69 said:
You have a LOT to learn. When you do that you will have a very successful bodybuilding career. You are so raw with talent but you lack the knowledge. Your overtraining big time. You won’t waste the steroids unless you go on never ending cycles which it looks you are. Slow down and read my log you will learn a lot. Good luck and if you ever need advice on how to become a mass monster and stay healthy just ask away. I have faith in
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Thank you man, if you have faith in me I have faith in you too.
 
doomslayer28 said:
Thanks man, I have not done bloods but I'm pretty sure I am very very healthy despite blasting, never encountered jaundice, my blood pressure is normal, resting heartbeat is very low, the majority of my carbs pre and post workout come from fruits, and I have had 500grams of weight in vegetables everyday. I'm also running a full spectrum of support supplements like tumeric, green tea extract, trans reserveratrol, grape seed extract, tudca, lutein, NAC and Alpha lipoic acid, and Hawthorne berry. I know 4 hours seems over the top, but remember too, I only train 4 hours a day 4 days out of the week, I spend 3 full days out of the week resting. You could say im "over training" , but I have come to the conclusion that if I am not training 4 hours a day in this way, I'm really just wasting the steroids at the doses I'm running them. If I'm gonna run steroids, if im gonna pay this much money for them, and commit to eating all this food etc. I want to commit to routine that is difficult, if it's not difficult, where's the glory or the challenge, and if it's not challenging you're not growing. If I was overtraining I wouldn't be able to put 10lbs on most lifts week after week as I have been, and I've encountered overtraining many times before, for me it comes in the form of my body hurting so bad that I am not able to sleep or stay sleep very long, which I have not encountered yet. Anyways, I really have nothing better to do than to train 4 hours a day.
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@doomslayer28 you should do bloods bro :) dont guess imo
 
doomslayer28 said:
I will be posting more when my shipment gets here with the dianabol and masteron, But here's what I did for back training today.

4 Exercises 5 sets of pyramid style drop sets

Exercise 1
Wide neutral grip lat pull down
Set 1. 145lbs for 6 - 12 reps
Drop set of 135lbs for 6 reps
Set 2. 155lbs for 6 reps
Drop set of 145lbs for 6 reps
Set 3. 165lbs for 4 reps
Drop set of 155lbs for 4 reps
Triple drop set of 145lbs of 4 to 6 reps til failure
Set 4. 155lbs for 6 reps
Drop set of 145 for 6 reps
Set 5 155lbs for 4 to 6 reps
Drop set of 145 for 4 to 6 reps
Triple drop set of 135 til failure

Exercise 2, 1 arm plate loaded hammerstrength row
Set 1. 180lbs [ 4plates] for 6 to 12 reps
Drop set to 160lbs for 6 to 12 reps
Set 2. 200lbs for 6 reps
Drop set to 180lbs for 6 reps
Set 3. 220lbs for 4 to 6 reps
Drop set to 200lbs for 4 to 6 reps
Triple drop set to 180lbs 4 to 6 til failure
Set 4. 200lbs for 6 reps
Drop set to 180lbs for 6 to 12 reps to failure
Set 5. 200lbs for 6 reps
Drop set to 180lbs for 6 reps
Triple drop set to 160lbs for 6 reps til failure

Exercise 3, Underhand 1 arm hammer strength row
Set 1. (2 plates and a 25lb)
115lbs for 6 to 12 reps
Drop set of 95lbs for 6 to 12 reps
Set 2. 135lbs for 6 reps
Drop set of 115lbs for 6 to 12 reps
Set 3. 145lbs for 4 to 6 reps
Drop set of 135lbs for 4 to 6 reps
Triple drop set of 125lbs for 4 to 6 reps to failure.
Set 4. 135lbs for 6 reps
Drop set of 125lbs for 6 reps
Set 4. 135lbs for 6 reps
Drop set of 125lbs for 6 reps
Triple drop set of 115lbs til failure

Exercise 4. Seated cable row
Set 1. 175lbs for 6 to 12 reps
Drop set of 165lbs for 6 to 12 reps
Set 2. 190lbs for 6 reps
Drop set of 175lbs for 6 reps
Set 3. 205lbs for 4 to 6 reps
Drop set of 190lbs for 6 reps
Triple drop set of 175lbs til failure (4 to 6 reps)
Set 4. 190lbs for 6 reps
Drop set of 175lbs for 6 reps
Set 5. 190lbs for 6 reps
Drop set if 175lbs for 6 reps
Triple drop of 165lbs, 4 to 6 reps til failure

Forearms
Set 1. 60lbs x 20 reps
Drop set of 50lbs x 15 to 20 reps
Set 2. 70lbs x 20 reps
Drop set of 60lbs x 15 to 20 reps
Set 3. 70lbs x 15 reps
Drop set of 60lbs x 15 to 20 reps
Set 4. 60lbs x 20 reps
Drop set of 50lbs x 20 reps
Set 5. 60lbs x 20 reps

Legs
75lbs on all sets, no pyramid sets like on upper body,
5 sets of standing calve raises x 30 reps or more, drop sets if the first set doesn't reach 30 reps
5 Sets of seated calve raises x 30 reps of more, drop sets if the first set doesn't reach 30 reps.

Leg press,
12 reps of 5 plates as a warm up
First set. 6 plates, 14 reps
Drop set to 5 plates for 6 reps
Second set. 7 plates for 7 to 8 reps
Drop set to 6 plates for 6 to 12 reps
Third set. 8 plates 6 reps this time
Drop set of 7 plates 5 reps
Fourth set. 7 plates - 6 reps
Drop set 6 plates 6 reps
Fifth set 6 plates 12 reps
Drop set to 5 plates 6 to 12 reps til failure

Hamstring curl
First set. 128lbs x 12 reps
Drop set of 120lbs x 8 reps
Second set. 138lbs x 8reps
Drop set of 128lbs x 6 reps
Third set. 148lbs x 6 reps
Drop set of 138lbs x 4 reps
Fourth set 138lbs x 6 reps
Drop set of 128lbs as many reps as possible
Fifth set 138lbs 6 reps
Drop set of 128lbs as many reps as possible.
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@doomslayer28 you look great, pumped, chest wide good body and training on point
is this 1 day volume bro? impressive :)
 
at the end of the day it's your long and if you want to train that much then go for it
 
if you want to build more mass cut down on your volume trust me it will work
 
you're burning a lot of calories but you're really stressing the muscles way too much
 
at the end of the day it's your body and your choice but I've never heard of anyone training for three hours that's crazy
 
I have decided to take some of your advice and train just alittle bit less, I'm gonna continue with the volume and time on my upper body because in all reality I'm only doin upper body parts once a week for only 2 hours a day and my body is responding very well on half the drugs. when you get down to it that's only 8 hours a week for upper body, I'm gonna continue to do Calves everyday I'm training for the normal 1 hour a day, because I've found that Calves like forearms respond best to high volume and frequency. But I will only be doing only 2 x 1 hour workout for Legs a week as opposed to 4 x 1 hour workout a day per week. Hopefully this decrease in volume can help me get past my current plateau on the leg press and Hamstring curl.

Monday chest
2 hours chest, 15 minutes forearms, 1 hour calves, 1 hour legs

Tuesday 2 hours back, 15 minutes forearms, 1 hour calves. No legs

Wednesday rest

Thursday 2 hours shoulders, 15 minutes forearms, 1 hour calves, 1 hour legs

Friday 2 hours arms, 15 minutes forearms, 1 hour calves, no legs


So this equates to 14 hours total in the gym as opposed to 16 hours, and 2 less leg workouts per week.
 
I want to see you challenge yourself and do something different. Go in and pick 4 chest exercises and do 3 top working sets for each at the same weight. For instance
Hammer Strength Incline press do 3 plates per side and do 3 sets. After that go do the fly machine with 200 lbs for 3 sets. Then do dip machine with 200 lbs for 3’sets. Then finish off with a chest press of some sort. I bet you will grow faster on that.
 
RoidRage69 said:
I want to see you challenge yourself and do something different. Go in and pick 4 chest exercises and do 3 top working sets for each at the same weight. For instance
Hammer Strength Incline press do 3 plates per side and do 3 sets. After that go do the fly machine with 200 lbs for 3 sets. Then do dip machine with 200 lbs for 3’sets. Then finish off with a chest press of some sort. I bet you will grow faster on that.
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Great suggestion just what I've been looking for, tbh I really think my body has adapted now to the pyramid style drop sets I've been doing for the last 15 weeks. I'll try it out
 
RoidRage69 said:
I want to see you challenge yourself and do something different. Go in and pick 4 chest exercises and do 3 top working sets for each at the same weight. For instance
Hammer Strength Incline press do 3 plates per side and do 3 sets. After that go do the fly machine with 200 lbs for 3 sets. Then do dip machine with 200 lbs for 3’sets. Then finish off with a chest press of some sort. I bet you will grow faster on
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Just wondering tho why only 3 working sets per exercise
 
I do 3 heavy working sets like roid said, after that my drop sets are all high volume moderate- lite weight sets.

I've found for my body I fill out and grow the best by doing heavier working sets for mass and adding the volume for sculpting and shaping my body
 
doomslayer28 said:
Just wondering tho why only 3 working sets per exercise
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Because I think you need to see what real muscle failure feels like with higher intensity. Each week increase the reps per set or the weight. 12 sets is plenty to grow on. Worked for Dorian and many others. Even Samson only does 12 sets for chest and he is next in line to win multiple Olympia titles.
 
RoidRage69 said:
Because I think you need to see what real muscle failure feels like with higher intensity. Each week increase the reps per set or the weight. 12 sets is plenty to grow on. Worked for Dorian and many others. Even Samson only does 12 sets for chest and he is next in line to win multiple Olympia titles.
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I'll try it out, I'm a big fan of Dorian and menzter, but I have never gone and tried the less sets method that both preach, I suppose it's just because I am too comfortable doing high volume, but I'll try it out brother.
 
doomslayer28 said:
I'll try it out, I'm a big fan of Dorian and menzter, but I have never gone and tried the less sets method that both preach, I suppose it's just because I am too comfortable doing high volume, but I'll try it out brother.
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Got to do what is uncontrollably hard brother especially if you want results and be something some day and under the lights.

When you are uncomfortable in life that is when the real growth happens.
 
For the plate press and Incline Barbell I'd do 3 heavy sets 8-12 reps on those and follow it with moderate weight and high volume 3 sets of 15-20 reps

That's how I do my workouts and structure my routine from time to time.

All the other movements you can just hit volume on since DB Fly going heavy on that could be a big injury imo because of the nature of the movement.

others might structure it differently but that is how I would set it up.

you can also try DB Pullover it's a great chest movement I really like it, I do 55lbs and 60lbs just 2 sets 10-12 reps
 
Noah Wixx said:
For the plate press and Incline Barbell I'd do 3 heavy sets 8-12 reps on those and follow it with moderate weight and high volume 3 sets of 15-20 reps

That's how I do my workouts and structure my routine from time to time.

All the other movements you can just hit volume on since DB Fly going heavy on that could be a big injury imo because of the nature of the movement.

others might structure it differently but that is how I would set it up.

you can also try DB Pullover it's a great chest movement I really like it, I do 55lbs and 60lbs just 2 sets 10-12 reps
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Ah ok i see now. Ill try it out. Tbh I kinda just thought that's what I've been doing even with doing a drop set at rep 6. I do the heaviest I can for six drop the weight by 5 to 10lbs and continue with another 6. That puts me in the 12 reps category.
 
Noah Wixx said:
For the plate press and Incline Barbell I'd do 3 heavy sets 8-12 reps on those and follow it with moderate weight and high volume 3 sets of 15-20 reps

That's how I do my workouts and structure my routine from time to time.

All the other movements you can just hit volume on since DB Fly going heavy on that could be a big injury imo because of the nature of the movement.

others might structure it differently but that is how I would set it up.

you can also try DB Pullover it's a great chest movement I really like it, I do 55lbs and 60lbs just 2 sets 10-12 reps
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But I'll definitely try this scheme of yours out. I feel like my body has adapted to the pyramid drop sets I've been doing over the last 15 weeks, and I need to change the variables, somehow to make it more intense.
 
This is my exact push movements and sets when I'm not pushing volume this is heavier weight on these, for one week I will do heavy weight next weeks workouts I drop weight and go high volume and repeat the cycle for my ppl split.

When I do go for volume it's 3x15, 5x15 or 5x10 for my sets and rep ranges sometimes 3x20 for examples.


Barbell Bench Press 3 sets 6, 10 ,12

Incline Dumbbell Press (Drop Angle Down Each Set 3 sets 10,8,6

Decline Dumbbell Flys 2 sets 12,10

Dumbbell Pullover 2 sets 12,10

Close Grip Bench Press 2 sets 12,10

One-Arm Overhead Extensions 2 sets 12,10

V-Grip Pressdow to 2 sets 12,10

BentOvr Dumbbell Lateral Raise 2 sets 12,10

Side Cable Raises 2 sets 12,10

Leg Raises 4x25> 2 sets, 2 x 25

Ab Crunches 4x25 to 2 sets, 2 x 25
 
doomslayer28 said:
But I'll definitely try this scheme of yours out. I feel like my body has adapted to the pyramid drop sets I've been doing over the last 15 weeks, and I need to change the variables, somehow to make it more intense.
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Give it a shot man it has worked for me, this current log I have up on evo compared to last years log I ran on evo, I am way stronger this time on cycle then I was last year, im running roughly the same mgs as well as the same compounds 600mg total 300 primo 300 test e for my cycle, only thing I switched was how I do my workouts and movements. I was beating myself up to much first cycle and got weaker this time I did less volume and more heavy weights for less sets and reps, and when I did decide to reintroduce volume I can lift way heavier weights for more reps and sets because I changed my plan of attack.
 
Noah Wixx said:
This is my exact push movements and sets when I'm not pushing volume this is heavier weight on these, for one week I will do heavy weight next weeks workouts I drop weight and go high volume and repeat the cycle for my ppl split.

When I do go for volume it's 3x15, 5x15 or 5x10 for my sets and rep ranges sometimes 3x20 for examples.


Barbell Bench Press 3 sets 6, 10 ,12

Incline Dumbbell Press (Drop Angle Down Each Set 3 sets 10,8,6

Decline Dumbbell Flys 2 sets 12,10

Dumbbell Pullover 2 sets 12,10

Close Grip Bench Press 2 sets 12,10

One-Arm Overhead Extensions 2 sets 12,10

V-Grip Pressdow to 2 sets 12,10

BentOvr Dumbbell Lateral Raise 2 sets 12,10

Side Cable Raises 2 sets 12,10

Leg Raises 4x25> 2 sets, 2 x 25

Ab Crunches 4x25 to 2 sets, 2 x 25
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Noah Wixx said:
Give it a shot man it has worked for me, this current log I have up on evo compared to last years log I ran on evo, I am way stronger this time on cycle then I was last year, im running roughly the same mgs as well as the same compounds 600mg total 300 primo 300 test e for my cycle, only thing I switched was how I do my workouts and movements. I was beating myself up to much first cycle and got weaker this time I did less volume and more heavy weights for less sets and reps, and when I did decide to reintroduce volume I can lift way heavier weights for more reps and sets because I changed my plan of attack.
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Sick bro thanks for the layout, I'll think on it and construct something "different" than what I'm doing now. Kinda on a snag these last couple weeks and I think my body has adapted. Hitting a snag on 225lb on Incline, I'm thinking I need to go down to 185 for straight sets, just to change it. The gains are still flowing in the body, but weights and rep increase are slowing down a bit.
 
doomslayer28 said:
Sick bro thanks for the layout, I'll think on it and construct something "different" than what I'm doing now. Kinda on a snag these last couple weeks and I think my body has adapted. Hitting a snag on 225lb on Incline, I'm thinking I need to go down to 185 for straight sets, just to change it. The gains are still flowing in the body, but weights and rep increase are slowing down a bit.
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That's a great plan, in my experience dropping weight and repping more sets at a lower weight increased my muscular endurance and actually made me stronger.

Happy to help anytime brother 💪
 
Noah Wixx said:
This is my exact push movements and sets when I'm not pushing volume this is heavier weight on these, for one week I will do heavy weight next weeks workouts I drop weight and go high volume and repeat the cycle for my ppl split.

When I do go for volume it's 3x15, 5x15 or 5x10 for my sets and rep ranges sometimes 3x20 for examples.


Barbell Bench Press 3 sets 6, 10 ,12

Incline Dumbbell Press (Drop Angle Down Each Set 3 sets 10,8,6

Decline Dumbbell Flys 2 sets 12,10

Dumbbell Pullover 2 sets 12,10

Close Grip Bench Press 2 sets 12,10

One-Arm Overhead Extensions 2 sets 12,10

V-Grip Pressdow to 2 sets 12,10

BentOvr Dumbbell Lateral Raise 2 sets 12,10

Side Cable Raises 2 sets 12,10

Leg Raises 4x25> 2 sets, 2 x 25

Ab Crunches 4x25 to 2 sets, 2 x 25
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@Noah Wixx i like this plan for @doomslayer28
a lot of volume he needs

@doomslayer28 hows your diet? any updates on meals
just answered your supps post
 
Npcclassicphysique champ said:
@Noah Wixx i like this plan for @doomslayer28
a lot of volume he needs

@doomslayer28 hows your diet? any updates on meals
just answered your supps post
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yes, I need the volume, I neeeeed it...I'm a fiend and I need it..lol

But yeah man as for the diet, there is no change from what I posted originally. I generally eat the same diet I posted pretty much every day I workout. I have protein pancakes the days off and fill the rest of the calories with chicken and fruit smoothies, and raw vegetables. Keeps my liver nice and healthy. My diet is all about convenience, calories, and nutrients.
 
doomslayer28 said:
yes, I need the volume, I neeeeed it...I'm a fiend and I need it..lol

But yeah man as for the diet, there is no change from what I posted originally. I generally eat the same diet I posted pretty much every day I workout. I have protein pancakes the days off and fill the rest of the calories with chicken and fruit smoothies, and raw vegetables. Keeps my liver nice and healthy. My diet is all about convenience, calories, and nutrients.
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@doomslayer28 get some meal pics up so we can see its the same bro :) please

you do need volume thats key
 
Here's a picture of me on my last cut and cardio numbers I put up, all running and cycling, no lifting, weighing about 205lbs at 6"2, I'm about 210lbs now 5lbs heavier.

600mg of testosterone cypionate
400mg of masteron enanthate
50mg of winstrol
25mg of mk677

I wonder how it will turn out with a fully dosed cycle, tbh this was supposed to be a cut but I really don't want to drop my calories haha
 

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Here's a picture of me on my last cut and cardio numbers I put up, all running and cycling, no lifting, weighing about 205lbs at 6"2, I'm about 210lbs now 5lbs heavier.

600mg of testosterone cypionate
400mg of masteron enanthate
50mg of winstrol
25mg of mk677

I wonder how it will turn out with a fully dosed cycle, tbh this was supposed to be a cut but I really don't want to drop my calories haha
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@doomslayer28 you look great , lean and tight in the older pics, thats Ronnie coleman abs style that you have it seems bro :)
i think this cut will be better but you gotta cut your calories and get diet tight

your cycle now will be? test mast winny?
 
Npcclassicphysique champ said:
@doomslayer28 you look great , lean and tight in the older pics, thats Ronnie coleman abs style that you have it seems bro :)
i think this cut will be better but you gotta cut your calories and get diet tight

your cycle now will be? test mast winny?
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Yeah my abs are not the best they're purely from cardio in that pic. They're better in the present, but I gotta man up and do abs at some point...some point.

I'm decided I'm gonna run

400mg of trenbolone E (never ran trenbolone on a cut or doing heavy cardio like running and cycling, so we'll see if that stays)
400mg testosterone C
400mg of masteron E
50mg of winstrol
50mg of anadrol
50mg of proviron
25mg of mk677
20mg of cardarine
😁
 
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