Approved Log First cycle – Second iteration - Testosterone Masteron Winstrol Anavar -vascularity for the summer Log

[Ulter]

@Ulter thanks doing my best with the little knowledge I have but more importantly, want to keep the process enjoyable. Evo family helps me a lot with guidance


@ceo my splits tend to be old school but I like it. And if I don't enjoy it, I won't adhere to it. Next winter I'm finding a good gym to train legs. Mine is missing a few pieces of equipment I like such as belt squat.

@Masonic Bodybuilder thank you for your input. I'm really eager to get my blood work done next week and how the estrogen evolved after my dose adjustment 6 weeks ago.

that sounds like a plan

 

[2Thick]

@ROIDDERS @2Thick thank you guys Much appreciated!

EVO love

 

[haldencapital]

Well, two days ago I thought i had lost every tiny gained i made during the bulk. It was only the diet that started depleting.

I ate lots of carbs two days ago, slept like a baby and was able to crank the best back workout in a freaking while. Holy hell. Everything felt so good, I took the opportunity to do a more heavy volume while I have the energy and the food in my system to recover.

Like Vaillant says, the pump is the cure !! My right lat seems to be lagging a bit but I'm not the best at posing so i might just need to better open it up.

God, i love this sport so much! The ups and the downs. Pic dump from the office gym with no editing or filter from my patato cam. I should really invest in good lightening and camera gear lol

Next step is to shave the legs a bit and see what is under there. And see how i can improve my acne. Masteron is really bursting out the acne side effect

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Well, two days ago I thought i had lost every tiny gained i made during the bulk. It was only the diet that started depleting.

I ate lots of carbs two days ago, slept like a baby and was able to crank the best back workout in a freaking while. Holy hell. Everything felt so good, I took the opportunity to do a more heavy volume while I have the energy and the food in my system to recover.

Like Vaillant says, the pump is the cure !! My right lat seems to be lagging a bit but I'm not the best at posing so i might just need to better open it up.

God, i love this sport so much! The ups and the downs. Pic dump from the office gym with no editing or filter from my patato cam. I should really invest in good lightening and camera gear lol

Next step is to shave the legs a bit and see what is under there. And see how i can improve my acne. Masteron is really bursting out the acne side effect

you a beast broly you filled out in days THICK AF and big AF ripped @haldencapital

 

[haldencapital]

you a beast broly you filled out in days THICK AF and big AF ripped @haldencapital

@Npcclassicphysique champ thanks! And I really appreciate your input from 2-3 days ago when i was doubting myself. I was able to get out of my head and trust the process. It's not going to be linear so I might enjoy it regardless of how I look. I'm only a few hundred grams of carbs away from being full

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

@Npcclassicphysique champ thanks! And I really appreciate your input from 2-3 days ago when i was doubting myself. I was able to get out of my head and trust the process. It's not going to be linear so I might enjoy it regardless of how I look. I'm only a few hundred grams of carbs away from being full

you shouldnt doubt yourself broly you are hella ripped and strong

 

[Noah Wixx]

Weekly update.

Morning weight now down to 178 - 179 from 181 - 183.

I feel flat as hell. Honestly, by the feeling of it, i think i might have cut the testosterone too much. I was over-aromatizing at 200mg a week. Now that I'm saturated at a lower level of 140 mg a week, i look completely deflated. My bloodtest is on June 11th. I really wanted to see where my estrogen would fall at 140mg a week before doing any adjustement. 200mg was a 70 reading on estrogen. If 140mg yields below 30 i might crank it up a bit because i don't know what to expect really but i feel like i've lost a lot of size despite the weight being the around the same. I was looking very tight at 200mg a week and 70 estrogen... Like my profile picture. Now i just look flat and weak

Maybe I should just stop being a b*tch and run with a high estrogen level during my cycles... Am I tripping? lol First bulk and cut cycle. Lots to learn for next time.

New split :

Day 1: chest (incline BB press, flies, decline DB press), shoulders (mostly side laterals) and triceps (skullcrusher, dips). Abs
Day 2 : Legs (squats, legs extension, curls, split-squats). If leg press available, this is prioritized to save my back.
Day 3 : back (one arm DB row to grow my weaker and less develped lat, 25 lbs weighted pull-ups, v-bar row or Meadows rows (RIP John) and biceps (curls)
Day 4: rest/abs
Repeat

Mountain biking season has started. By being an ex-competitive cyclist I know that this means I will lose most of my leg muscles again this summer. I just cannot help it. No leg picture for today, i need to shave. With 2 inches of hair, there is nothing to see there lol

Diet : 2000-2100 calories as of now. With 235 gr of protein. Chicken, greek yogourt, ground beef, egg whites, whey. 35 gr of fats mostly eggs and olive oil. Rest is carbs on pre-workout meal such as oatmeal and whey.

I don't plan, unless an emergency, to work 16h a day anymore. So, caloric deficit should start now. 6 weeks late but better now than never.

Really waiting for blood levels in about 10 days to adjust the testosterone. After the results are in, i'll get the orals and start running them for the last 8 weeks. I expect most of the results to come in this 2 month time. I will keep using 300 mg of masteron a week until the end of the 8 weeks.

Pictures of this morning, no pump, no food, no filter. :/ Nothing too impressive. Crazy how the testosterone adjustment i made seemed to have killed the train from going...

U sure as hell dont look fucking flat at all lol maybe in your head brother.

 

[ballin2504]

Weekly update.

Morning weight now down to 178 - 179 from 181 - 183.

I feel flat as hell. Honestly, by the feeling of it, i think i might have cut the testosterone too much. I was over-aromatizing at 200mg a week. Now that I'm saturated at a lower level of 140 mg a week, i look completely deflated. My bloodtest is on June 11th. I really wanted to see where my estrogen would fall at 140mg a week before doing any adjustement. 200mg was a 70 reading on estrogen. If 140mg yields below 30 i might crank it up a bit because i don't know what to expect really but i feel like i've lost a lot of size despite the weight being the around the same. I was looking very tight at 200mg a week and 70 estrogen... Like my profile picture. Now i just look flat and weak

Maybe I should just stop being a b*tch and run with a high estrogen level during my cycles... Am I tripping? lol First bulk and cut cycle. Lots to learn for next time.

New split :

Day 1: chest (incline BB press, flies, decline DB press), shoulders (mostly side laterals) and triceps (skullcrusher, dips). Abs
Day 2 : Legs (squats, legs extension, curls, split-squats). If leg press available, this is prioritized to save my back.
Day 3 : back (one arm DB row to grow my weaker and less develped lat, 25 lbs weighted pull-ups, v-bar row or Meadows rows (RIP John) and biceps (curls)
Day 4: rest/abs
Repeat

Mountain biking season has started. By being an ex-competitive cyclist I know that this means I will lose most of my leg muscles again this summer. I just cannot help it. No leg picture for today, i need to shave. With 2 inches of hair, there is nothing to see there lol

Diet : 2000-2100 calories as of now. With 235 gr of protein. Chicken, greek yogourt, ground beef, egg whites, whey. 35 gr of fats mostly eggs and olive oil. Rest is carbs on pre-workout meal such as oatmeal and whey.

I don't plan, unless an emergency, to work 16h a day anymore. So, caloric deficit should start now. 6 weeks late but better now than never.

Really waiting for blood levels in about 10 days to adjust the testosterone. After the results are in, i'll get the orals and start running them for the last 8 weeks. I expect most of the results to come in this 2 month time. I will keep using 300 mg of masteron a week until the end of the 8 weeks.

Pictures of this morning, no pump, no food, no filter. :/ Nothing too impressive. Crazy how the testosterone adjustment i made seemed to have killed the train from going...

@haldencapital looking phenomenal man. Way to kill it.

 

[haldencapital]

U sure as hell dont look fucking flat at all lol maybe in your head brother.

@Noah Wixx most definitely in my head

@haldencapital looking phenomenal man. Way to kill it.

@ballin2504 thank you boss

 

[25homes]

Good update

 

[haldencapital]

Got the bloodwork done yesterday. Should have the results early next week and will be able to see where i stand at in order to get the orals and adjust the dosing of my inectables if required.

So far, i inject twice a week. i've been on 140 mg of test cyp per week and now at 300 mg of masteron since last week. I didn't lose much weight, my hunger is up probably due to masteron. I'm having a hard time being in a deficit, like if i was fighting the anabolic that wants me to keep growing. Even though i did not lose weight, i look tighther. So i guess the weight does not matter as much. I'm trying to curb my hunger down with 8 mg of ephedrine per day, one pill. This is like clen, the effect will taper off in a few days but i'll take the help while i can. I really want to be in a steady deficit before starting the orals.

8 weeks oral:

- 40 mg anavar per day on training day;
- 40 mg winstrol per day on training day (or would 20 mg be enough?)
- 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, total of 6 weeks on clen at a 25 mcg to 75 mcg dose per day.

Quick picture of the legs. I have too much hair to show any definition, but i think they grew a bit since February. Nothing too impressive, but for a 180 lbs frame, i think it's ok.

 

[LevButlerov]

Got the bloodwork done yesterday. Should have the results early next week and will be able to see where i stand at in order to get the orals and adjust the dosing of my inectables if required.

So far, i inject twice a week. i've been on 140 mg of test cyp per week and now at 300 mg of masteron since last week. I didn't lose much weight, my hunger is up probably due to masteron. I'm having a hard time being in a deficit, like if i was fighting the anabolic that wants me to keep growing. Even though i did not lose weight, i look tighther. So i guess the weight does not matter as much. I'm trying to curb my hunger down with 8 mg of ephedrine per day, one pill. This is like clen, the effect will taper off in a few days but i'll take the help while i can. I really want to be in a steady deficit before starting the orals.

8 weeks oral:

- 40 mg anavar per day on training day;
- 40 mg winstrol per day on training day (or would 20 mg be enough?)
- 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, total of 6 weeks on clen at a 25 mcg to 75 mcg dose per day.

Quick picture of the legs. I have too much hair to show any definition, but i think they grew a bit since February. Nothing too impressive, but for a 180 lbs frame, i think it's ok.

Will be waiting on your bloods. int he meantime the legs look good, actually growing nicely. @haldencapital
The winstrol, 40mgs is a better dose for you imo on training days and 20mgs off the days.

 

[RoySimpson]

Got the bloodwork done yesterday. Should have the results early next week and will be able to see where i stand at in order to get the orals and adjust the dosing of my inectables if required.

So far, i inject twice a week. i've been on 140 mg of test cyp per week and now at 300 mg of masteron since last week. I didn't lose much weight, my hunger is up probably due to masteron. I'm having a hard time being in a deficit, like if i was fighting the anabolic that wants me to keep growing. Even though i did not lose weight, i look tighther. So i guess the weight does not matter as much. I'm trying to curb my hunger down with 8 mg of ephedrine per day, one pill. This is like clen, the effect will taper off in a few days but i'll take the help while i can. I really want to be in a steady deficit before starting the orals.

8 weeks oral:

- 40 mg anavar per day on training day;
- 40 mg winstrol per day on training day (or would 20 mg be enough?)
- 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, total of 6 weeks on clen at a 25 mcg to 75 mcg dose per day.

Quick picture of the legs. I have too much hair to show any definition, but i think they grew a bit since February. Nothing too impressive, but for a 180 lbs frame, i think it's ok.

@haldencapital legs are looking brolic bro awesome work right here!!

 

[Mobster]

Got the bloodwork done yesterday. Should have the results early next week and will be able to see where i stand at in order to get the orals and adjust the dosing of my inectables if required.

So far, i inject twice a week. i've been on 140 mg of test cyp per week and now at 300 mg of masteron since last week. I didn't lose much weight, my hunger is up probably due to masteron. I'm having a hard time being in a deficit, like if i was fighting the anabolic that wants me to keep growing. Even though i did not lose weight, i look tighther. So i guess the weight does not matter as much. I'm trying to curb my hunger down with 8 mg of ephedrine per day, one pill. This is like clen, the effect will taper off in a few days but i'll take the help while i can. I really want to be in a steady deficit before starting the orals.

8 weeks oral:

- 40 mg anavar per day on training day;
- 40 mg winstrol per day on training day (or would 20 mg be enough?)
- 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, total of 6 weeks on clen at a 25 mcg to 75 mcg dose per day.

Quick picture of the legs. I have too much hair to show any definition, but i think they grew a bit since February. Nothing too impressive, but for a 180 lbs frame, i think it's ok.

There might be a little recomping going on

 

[stevesmi]

Got the bloodwork done yesterday. Should have the results early next week and will be able to see where i stand at in order to get the orals and adjust the dosing of my inectables if required.

So far, i inject twice a week. i've been on 140 mg of test cyp per week and now at 300 mg of masteron since last week. I didn't lose much weight, my hunger is up probably due to masteron. I'm having a hard time being in a deficit, like if i was fighting the anabolic that wants me to keep growing. Even though i did not lose weight, i look tighther. So i guess the weight does not matter as much. I'm trying to curb my hunger down with 8 mg of ephedrine per day, one pill. This is like clen, the effect will taper off in a few days but i'll take the help while i can. I really want to be in a steady deficit before starting the orals.

8 weeks oral:

- 40 mg anavar per day on training day;
- 40 mg winstrol per day on training day (or would 20 mg be enough?)
- 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, total of 6 weeks on clen at a 25 mcg to 75 mcg dose per day.

Quick picture of the legs. I have too much hair to show any definition, but i think they grew a bit since February. Nothing too impressive, but for a 180 lbs frame, i think it's ok.

@haldencapital i like winstrol lower personally
i have always found 25mgs is better as the sides are less
but it is your choice try both ways

 

[Ulter]

Got the bloodwork done yesterday. Should have the results early next week and will be able to see where i stand at in order to get the orals and adjust the dosing of my inectables if required.

So far, i inject twice a week. i've been on 140 mg of test cyp per week and now at 300 mg of masteron since last week. I didn't lose much weight, my hunger is up probably due to masteron. I'm having a hard time being in a deficit, like if i was fighting the anabolic that wants me to keep growing. Even though i did not lose weight, i look tighther. So i guess the weight does not matter as much. I'm trying to curb my hunger down with 8 mg of ephedrine per day, one pill. This is like clen, the effect will taper off in a few days but i'll take the help while i can. I really want to be in a steady deficit before starting the orals.

8 weeks oral:

- 40 mg anavar per day on training day;
- 40 mg winstrol per day on training day (or would 20 mg be enough?)
- 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, total of 6 weeks on clen at a 25 mcg to 75 mcg dose per day.

Quick picture of the legs. I have too much hair to show any definition, but i think they grew a bit since February. Nothing too impressive, but for a 180 lbs frame, i think it's ok.

8 week oral hit will tighten you up nicely
you sure you want to hit the clen? why not do some GLP1?

@haldencapital

 

[haldencapital]

@haldencapital legs are looking brolic bro awesome work right here!!

@RoySimpson thank you boss ! Next winter, i will increase training volume on the legs. Impossible to do it in the summer with mountain biking but i want to grow these legs. Always been a challenge but i'm up for it

 

[haldencapital]

8 week oral hit will tighten you up nicely
you sure you want to hit the clen? why not do some GLP1?

@haldencapital

@Ulter clen is a love hate relationship. It works like nothing else i've tried. DO i like the side effects like no sleep and nasty cramps. Hell no... GLP1 as Ozempic I really don't know how to get this stuff in Canada honestly.

 

[haldencapital]

Will be waiting on your bloods. int he meantime the legs look good, actually growing nicely. @haldencapital
The winstrol, 40mgs is a better dose for you imo on training days and 20mgs off the days.

@haldencapital i like winstrol lower personally
i have always found 25mgs is better as the sides are less
but it is your choice try both ways

@LevButlerov @stevesmi since i've never tried winstrol before, as opposed to clen, I'll start with 20 mg to see how i feel and how much sides i get. Then ramp up if only required. If i get get away with the minimal effective dose i'll do it.

 

[haldencapital]

Bloodwork update. It only took 24h for the doc to send it to me. That was way quicker than usual.

Last reading was from April 17th. I was only using testosterone cypionate. I had been running it for 8 weeks prior at an average of 160 mg a week with a peak dose of 200mg the week before the reading. Estrogen was very high at 69.5 pg/ml.

After the reading in an attempt to lower estrogen, I decided to lower the dose to 140 mg a week. I added masteron with an average dose of 250 mg a week for the 8 weeks leading to the new reading with a peak dose of 300 mg the week before the reading. I also added 6.25 mg of aromasin per week.

Now, the reading comes in. I thought that masteron did not aromatize, that it would be neutral. It might be right. I thought that lowering the dose of test with 6.25 mg of aromasin would have somewhat reduced estrogen. At least a bit!

Well, i'm surprised to say that my estrogen, despite all that, did not move one bit Still at 69.

I'm a bit lost but this high estrogen is most certainly why i have a hard time controlling my hunger.

Now, is there a point of even running test over 75 mg a week with an estrogen this high? Just thinking of keeping the masteron as is, taking 75 - 100 mg a week of test and maybe take 6.25 mg of aromasin twice a week instead of once a week. I'll be done with this cycle within 8-10 weeks anyway, so i know i'm gonna have to reduce the test sooner or later. I might be able to live with the estrogen this high for the 8-10 weeks, but it will have to go down at some point.

The problem here is that the doc did not request estradiol in the bloodtests prior to me jumping on gear after I started my TRT a year ago. The estradiol could have been higher than normal from a base level... That i don't know.