I feel sorry for those grapevines getting pruned by an absolute unit 
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loving Motsc, only thing i have noticed is a bit of a raise in HR, but ive read that it can go down after body normalises, you finding this at all?
Not at moment resting HR is 55bpm.
Ok may be a me problem. 1mg may be too much in one go haha may half it tomorrow see how I go. Thanks
Maybe as I'm taking 0.7mg a day. What I'll.is keep a track of it
@Pigsy mots-c what other things did you feel from it? and what would you compare it to? steroids wise.
I'll post some pics tonight when I get home. It's not like a steriods, it more like a boost of energy throughout the day. Reduced fatigue and inflammation. Also helps with insulin sensitivity. With long term usage which i be running improve cellular health
See we need to nail down what I compares to, more like a nootropic? @Pigsy
I would say a small part like Cardarine in the energy department
not sure if youve ever run modafinil, but its sort of like an amplified version of that, better focus, good energy without a dropoff, also i have noticed at 1mg a day slight less hunger, but then i am also on 2mg reta, so they could work in conjunction, will be lowering to 0.5mg a day tomorrow to see if i still get benefits as strong
Cardarine no mental clarify though.
cardarine mixed with modafinil haha
I've never used Modafinil so have nothing to compare to
Modafinil can make you really productive if you have a plan. It feels like a stimulant but without euphoria, even slightly grumpy, which in like. It’s just sliiiightly unpleasant so you don’t want to do it all the time
Thats a good comparison I like modafinil in small amounts not ED. @Oracle911
Seen a lot said about it and it's benefits, was given the chance to try some. So thought I would log and review my experience with Mots c
I've seen Pigsy talk of 16 hour days
Gotcha, I have some as well and was thinking about given it a spin. I’ll watch your updates.
i've heard some grumblings about mot and slu. @Pigsy i don't know if they are going to become more mainstream or just be something that people use in isolation. so good to see your thoughts
bros pruning a lot of work. i seen my grandma do it back in Bama when she had a small farm. @Pigsy you should do seminars on tricks
good to hear your experiences. It seems like a lot of the Australia guys are into that product. not well known yet in EU or north america so let us know @Pigsy
bro you gotta give us dumb rednecks a background on this motsc shit. i want to see what it can do. you think it will help me workin the tanker?
MOTS-c stands for Mitochondrial Open Reading Frame of the 12S rRNA Type-C. It's a naturally occurring peptide (a short chain of amino acids, similar to a small protein) that is encoded by mitochondrial DNA.
what do you think is causing that rise in HR? does it effect anything else like bp or cholesterol ? @Oracle911 @Pigsy
this is from Chatgpt below, ive done half the dose so 0.5mg today and no increase in HR, i think 1mg was too much in one go for myself, BP was not increased for me and cholesterol ill know when i do bloods in 2 weeks, but overall i believe it to be a mitocondrial aid,
I haven't had any rise in HR or BP
let us know what specific changes/benefits you notice. thanks for taking the time to review and log it. will be a great learning experience @Pigsy
Will be following
bro sound like something good to me. maybe my wife could take it
Might help her drop a couple of pounds. Also give her some PT141, you'll have child number 19
bro when you work the ranch you need kids to do the work so not a bad idea. one of sons too lazy he oversleeps and doesn't feed the chickens on time..
Breed your own work force
bro but son lazy, he would rather play nintendo then do the ranch work. i had to break out the belt other day
Kids these days, have to shake your head
okay good to know
okay cool i like reading how people react
Ya sometimes that is necessary! Though some dont agree. I would have never listened to my parents when I was a kid without some nice beatings
OK, let me not spam Pigsys thread. The almost ultimate weight loss drug haha.
bro i got beat bad growing up and i turn out great!Ya sometimes that is necessary! Though some dont agree. I would have never listened to my parents when I was a kid without some nice beatings
Would definitely like to know how this eventually turns out. Rising mithochondrial function is interesting in lowered metabolic people like me.
@stevesmi I think the next version of Reta - the quad agonist could use something like Mots-c in it and be called Mozartrutide
Mum use to hit with a cricket wicket
bro i prefer nice size leather belt. daddy BM used to sit in barn and make them middle of night while drinking hooch. he would whip me if i didn't feed the cattle on time
He’s built different, nothing but respect for that routine!!
That is where, you need set times for sleep. I go bed same time 98% of the time. Helps lots.
That is true, but my CNS gets hit if I do that. I mean the gym session itself would hit my CNS already let alone whole day of physical work in the hot sun.
100%, not everybody can work like that. Especially at that age. Doing it at 20s and 30s is different.He’s built different, nothing but respect for that routine!!
Good to hear
Love to hear it brother. Can’t wait for you to try the additional ones
Modafinil you say is like motsc interesting.
I think the clean energy feel is similar.
yeah i personally run both together, MOTSC doesnt last AS long, but if you run it with lets say half a moda in the morning, it sustains all day until your ready to chill down and sleep, my days generally start at 545am and finish around 11-1130pm ish depending, and are generally pretty full on, since bringing these both in has made it alot easier and i cna get alot more done
Yeah I’m thinking about adding some moda to my prep. 5 weeks out and really starting to feel it
waiting on more day to day feedback on MOTS-c
from me? Haha I run it everyday. Honestly was thinking of dropping dose from a mg to half a mg a daywaiting on more day to day feedback on MOTS-c
From you and all the brothers in the EVO family
Love it brother
glad it’s doing its thing.
@Chopperoo why do you use Modafinil and Armodafinil?
The issue is that "energy" is hard to pinpoint we need more data on it. @Pigsy
Well before, I was struggling with performance. Now I'm getting through my day with energy to burn
I'd like more users on this to really help explain the peptide.Well before, I was struggling with performance. Now I'm getting through my day with energy to burn
I'd like more users on this to really help explain the peptide.
As in why together or why full stop?
@Chopperoo Modafinil and Armodafinil are usually only a patch for many other side effects of bad diet and training and cardio and sleep, do you have a LOG you journal?
I wouldn't say they are only a patch. They are useful tool to have in your toolbox.
I have used them. I keep some just in case. But I don’t enjoy them. Feels like a drug, but unpleasant. Too much and I’m just tired but can’t sleep. The worst. If I know I have to grind for like 16 hours or I have a mountain of paper work to do, I’ll take half of one when I get up to pee at 4am, then go back to sleep if I have the time. That way I’m not up until 3am. If it’s office stuff, I will make a list of everything I have to do BEFORE I take it. It must be taken as early as possible. If I had an emergency all night job I could take half a modafinil and it will see me through the night AND get me home safely. I have two friends who died from falling asleep driving after crazy work nights, and several more bad accidents. Two accidents for me. Never again
If it's to recover 1 time per month, that's one thing. Regular use will only patch up a real problem with a deep down health issue, diet training sleep supplements gut health and more.
@Chopperoo are you keeping a log journal of your cycle?
I found any of these uppers are an issue long term. As a past addict, I really suggest no one starts if they can help it. @toddthelineman
Yes, I agree. On the one hand, it’s hard to imagine wanting to take modafinil habitually. But I can see how one could become secondarily dependent on it. And it doesn’t feel healthy to me. More than once I took it and thought “damn I’m stuck feeling like this all day now”. Soooo much better doing healthy things for energy and getting sleep.
It's easy if you have an addictive personality, many of us do
I think I’ll look into mots c. I’m barely keeping up right now
I'm watching this for more feedback
Super keen to try the Klow80 once more stock is available!
How good is mots c!! I take in first thing in the morning upon waking great energy during the day!! Speeds up the mitochondria has really helped with fat loss. And i take tesamorelin before bed too. Stacked with GH.
Interested to see how this goes, been research to release an article on MOTS C
I be waiting for it brother, will be a good readInterested to see how this goes, been research to release an article on MOTS C
I hope so I've been talking about it for a while but keep getting side tracked by Mr. O research lol
Well only couple of weeks to go for the Olympia. Then full speed on the Mots c
That's trueWell only couple of weeks to go for the Olympia. Then full speed on the Mots c
@LevButlerov I have MOTS-C on hand and keen to start it, what was your thoughts on it, sounds like its a good add on?That's true
MOTS-C can be a good add on for energy and recovery. Run 0.5 mg 3x per week subq AM for 4–6 weeks then lets see how you respond. @G-Merc 80
5mg 3x/wk? For six weeks is like $1800!
Good catch that's a typo
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