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bros why? keep being a bum living off the govt lol. or move in with a chick no?
Hah, that's gonna be the answer to my problems too. My parents have been going to veitnam every year for that reason. First year they got full sets of dental implants for $5k. That's what one in Australia was quoted me. I opted for them to pull it out with a pair of pliers. That cost $900.
Of course bro, I wouldn't give the government another cent. I plan to increase my leeching but I'm pretty lazy when it comes to paper work and don't really need anything.
I do one eight hour shift a week on the ship and now I have the keys to it so I can go any time and meal prep in the kitchen and keep my ice packs in the freezer so I can swap them every few days and keep my peptides and insulin case cold so I don't spoil the precious gear
My original camper van got stolen and I moved in with a tinder chick that very night. It wasent a good move though, I wouldn't have done that execpt it was winter and was also easy haha. She owned a 2nd hand record store and let me stay out the back if I ran her shop in the mornings.
bros yeah i remember when they stole your camper. that crazy. i would put a tracker on it in case that happens againOf course bro, I wouldn't give the government another cent. I plan to increase my leeching but I'm pretty lazy when it comes to paper work and don't really need anything.
I do one eight hour shift a week on the ship and now I have the keys to it so I can go any time and meal prep in the kitchen and keep my ice packs in the freezer so I can swap them every few days and keep my peptides and insulin case cold so I don't spoil the precious gear
My original camper van got stolen and I moved in with a tinder chick that very night. It wasent a good move though, I wouldn't have done that execpt it was winter and was also easy haha. She owned a 2nd hand record store and let me stay out the back if I ran her shop in the mornings.
Well it got better in the er. Right in front of my eyes. I’m supposed to get a stress test now.
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It's a smart move
I guess I’ll get back under the bar tomorrow. My last Apple Watch fell in the river. I’ll have to get another and maybe in the unlikely chance that I have another scare I’ll know more and be able to do something about it. Still feel like shit, but I don’t suppose that’s going to improve until I make it improve.
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Maybe the shitty old testing equipment was freaking you out subconsciously lol
Atleast you look good right
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That’s the right mindset to take, getting back under the bar is the best reset you can give yourself. Start light, rebuild rhythm, and let training pull you out of the slump one session at a time.
you look good in the pic ripped! @toddthelineman
You get me hahaha. I had a moment with the phlebotomist. Didn’t get the digits though
Man there’s just no telling at this point. But I’m ok right now. According to today’s blood tests my kidneys have cleared the potassium and I’m ok. Probably give blood tomorrow.
Does the Apple watch have a AFib detector?
That would be good to check. Polar has a new fitness tracker bracelet and they are known for having the best sensors and algorithms
The first ekg showed “inverted T wave”
Good work on this
N2Guard is fantastic it really truly works ive had alot of bloods on N2Guard.
It leaves questions for me too that bothers me those two different results. Hope you're able to the contrast stress test that will seal the deal on what's going on.
An inverted T wave can be cause by an electrolyte imbalance. Since your potassium was so skewed that's all it may have been and Kratom lowers the shit out of potassium so I think we've got this figured out in a round about way. Now that you've got it in check you're probably good but I'd get the contrast done in any case. The treadmill EKG and they inject you with the contrast dye kinda test, the good one.
Exactly so.That’s the right mindset to take, getting back under the bar is the best reset you can give yourself. Start light, rebuild rhythm, and let training pull you out of the slump one session at a time.
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Amazing! I didn't see this @toddthelineman big EVO love your way huge move on your part,
big respect! sorry I missed this post.
@toddthelineman how did your watch end up in the river? lol. this is why I hate wearing jewelry. I'm always worried that I will lose it.
It was brand new lol. When I do the show skiing pyramids, after the girls climb down, some stay really close, they climb down onto your shoulders, then put one leg over your head and slide down while doing a dip holding your arms until they are standing on your feet. If you’re in the middle, your girls are small, maybe even kids. I’m on the side, usually carrying 2nd tier grown women so this one had hips and sort of turned sideways. There’s only so much room between my arms holding the handle (grip getting fatigued by this point) and the watch got popped off somehow. I see a lot of my buddies wearing their giant AW Ultras every time. Needed a better band I guess.
or maybe they stole it from you lol
Man we are thee most ghetto ski team that actually is competitive, by far, and there are some trifling chicks, but I don’t think that happened. I didn’t even feel it pop off but I knew where we were at when my girl climbed down and that’s exactly the last place “find my” pinged it.
this is a nice post. a lot of this stuff isn't something you can find out with AI or books. this is personal experience at work @toddthelineman
@toddthelineman we have ski clubs at local lakes here. i never cared for it. seems like a lot of fun to do though but i worry about gators
that is pretty cool stuff @toddthelineman do you have any pictures or videos of this happening? And how the heck did you even get into something like this?
Look up “mad city five high pyramid” there’s some cool GoPro POV views. I have never skied in a five high pyramid, but if we build one next year I will be. Seriously difficult team work that requires dedication, guts, talent, from everyone but the driver is the star always. Only a handful of teams in the world can do it.
How I got into it: the teams are nonprofits. I had 300 hours of community service to do and was fortunate enough to find out they needed help with all kinds of things. They were like “what can you do?” I said “anything, work on boats, trailers, docks, I can figure anything out” so they gave me a shot and I made a deal that I would work all summer. Eventually they needed more men to carry girls for a bigger pyramid and this chick was like, “you look like you could do it, grab skis, a rope, a wetsuit, and meet me on the dock” she was one of the best skiers in the world at that time. The rest is history
I was very very bad at it for a long time but it’s so fun and the harder something is the mere obsessive I become. You really need to get into these kinds of things as a child but then you get burned out. Seen it happen a lot
have you heard of a place called Cypress Gardens? a it closed down years ago but it was a theme park in FL about 40 minutes from Orlando. they supposedly had the best ski team in the world there (atleast they advertised that).. i remember watching it when i was younger it was quite good
That is a really cool story right there. And it's amazing how that volunteer community service paid off for you to find a hobby.
Yep! Three close friends skied there, one of our current drivers was a driver there, his daughter and granddaughters skied there to the end. And one of our late drivers drove there, his son skied there, was a show director there, was our show director, and his wife was there too. His son became a pro at Tommy Bartlett’s in Wisconsin and we shared ownership of the boat for a summer as we trained him to go there, I was like, just happy to be there, those kids were unbelievably talented, like barefooting really confidently at six years old.
You undoubtedly watched people I’ve skied with
Yeah, that place was pretty cool, but it was pretty damn boring. Aside from the ski show, it was just a bunch of flowers and gardens and stuff. nobody went there otherwise.
I believe there’s actually still a ski show. It was at Lego land, and if I heard right cypress gardens still exists as an amateur team, like our team, a non profit show. Rather than a “pro show”. And they are still very good shows.
Looks like n2guard is doing the trick
Yeah I saw that. Do those skiers make good money? Or is it a par time job?
Terrible money. And there’s almost no pro shows left. Tommy Bartlet, Indiana Beach, Cypress Gardens, all closed. I don’t know if there’s a way to make a paycheck by showskiing anymore. Maybe one in Texas. There was one in Japan hiring. But it’s for real like 30k a year and you just wind up marrying into wealthy families. That was the thing I saw a lot. But also you meet so many freaking amazing and resourceful people. It’s a charmed life for some
yeah i didn't think so. i would think it would be a fun side hobby job
It’s a pretty demanding hobby hahaha. It’s definitely a whole life for some. And it’s crazy, because I only pay like $250 a year to be in the team, but I do a lot of work and we fundraiser $100s of thousands and last year a m m m million dollars! Because boats and things are just expensive as all hell. So if you just love skiing and want to do it as a hobby on your own, it’s like 20-120k for a proper tournament ski boat, you can pay less but you’ll just be paying later. Then it’s pretty easy to spent $80 a day on gas. And depending on what you do, like wake surfing, waaaaay more. And you’re going to need a real truck to tow it, and at least three people to go every time. So a lot of show skiers don’t even have a boat. Don’t need it. They ski for hours every day for peanuts. The best thing is to have a friend with a ski boat. They will always want to go and need friends to go with and most ain’t even care if you have gas money. If you can drive the boat reasonably you’re the VIP always. I’ve gotten people seriously hooked on skiing it’s a blast! Brings the kid out of you
10/10/25
After a couple false starts to the bulk, I think it’s time make this happen.
Depending on how this proviron makes me feel, I may reintroduce deca, but may not.
50mg test prop ED
50mg primo. ED
25mg proviron. ED
5mg cialis
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20mg mk677
After a couple false starts to the bulk, I think it’s time make this happen.
Depending on how this proviron makes me feel, I may reintroduce deca, but may not.
50mg test prop ED
50mg primo. ED
25mg proviron. ED
5mg cialis
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Im no expert brother, but from what I’ve experienced and read. Your protein intake seems way to high, which leaves out room for carbs for intense weightlifting close to failure. If your not at least close to failure your just moving your body. Since your ouput is high and body comp is low body fat at worst of times, to me sounds like the protein total is extreme. Anywhere you go 2grams per KG bodyweight Or equivalent metric is the normal high end. Some cases higher but not that high. Proteins harder to physically eat usually takes longer and then more to digest..could also be your digestion do you eat things like pineapple and dates? or use digestive enzymes to asisst absorbtion? Eat all we want if our body does not or cant take it in it will get pooped out or block us up. I havent read this thread yet ill start looking through it. Not trying to tell you what to do do but some thoughts if you havent alrdy. I jnow this was started a few months ago. Will read through your log over time. The the fun things you do and the weight lifting are contradicting activities so your automatically going to have a harder time adding muscle. But if you do will always be lean so definitely has some perks about it. I realised this log is big so its gna take me some time to look at it. Im keen to see the progress and what you come up with having such high output outside of weights
Thanks bro! Both of my logs are full of bullshitting hahaha. Lifting and getting big are not a huge priority for me, but now that summer is over here it’s time to turn it up.
Tbh, I eat a lot of protein because I really like it and I felt ravenously hungry even with a full stomach before I learned to eat that way. But I didn’t get bigger, just felt bad. My digestion has gotten progressively better and I can eat most things now, I have some pretty high carb days but not consistently. I am actually eating with no real plan, no goals, I meal prep a little and I just eat. Pretty shameful habits hahaha. I’m really not a bodybuilder at all. Just a guy living a lifestyle really.
Haha broo i loove meat, tbh i thought this was someone else log i got suggested to so i must have clicked the wrong one but anyway, where do you live ? Not Australia im guessing, dont be shameful man we all have different goals and different lifestyles your on here your active your lean and your learning having fun foods important and most people got taught wrong things growing up and poor habits myself included. But we are aware and make better choices is far better then not trying
No, not Australia. I live in Midwest USA.
The high protein thing is maybe different for different people.
In my first log, I lowered my dose from 250mg/wk to 150mg/wk as I recall. And I started tracking and making sure I got 400g a day instead of binging one day and eating less the next. It was a pretty stark difference in body composition and a look I had never quite gotten to before.
Could I have done that more conventionally? Probably! And if I ate even more carbs maybe I would have grown but I’m not so sure. Five years ago I couldn’t have eaten many carbs at all. I was carnivore and anything else really tore me up. So I’m just used to it. It’s a really expensive way to eat that’s for sure
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Good restart on this bulk
@toddthelineman I see the protein back to 400 true protein KING style! love it.
Hahaa now i get the name!Good restart on this bulk
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Protein KING is a 400+ grams/day protein title! @No calves
and did you listen to @toddthelineman on the podcast?
https://www.evolutionary.org/evolut...-with-member-toddthelineman-the-inside-story/
@toddthelineman it was a good podcast. i think a lot of people will enjoy listening to it
It was pretty fun. I shared it with a couple friends. If I can manage some serious progress I’d like to come on and talk about it again
If you or someone could message me privately a couple of podcasts worth listening to ill have them easier to find instead of through the threads please and thanks
bros i listening to it now. i might go on podcast too soon. i had to cancel my appearance before due to work @toddthelineman
10/11/25 log
Body weight 184
Wake at 4:30am
7 hours uninterrupted
Body weight 185
50mg test prop
50mg primo
25mg proviron
5mg cialis
MORNING
Fish oil
Multivitamins
N2Guard
Fadogia Agrestis
3 sets of barefoot water skiing.
7am-9:30
42°f air! And we had seven people show up!
Water was 64°f
MEASUREMENTS
Right bicep 15”
Left bicep 14.5”
Left quad 24.5”
Right quad 24”
Waist 34”
Chest 47”
I’m not sure I got these totally right.
I flexed for the measurements, but no pump. My arms are smaller than they were, my bicep is still not 100% healed but I’m easing back into the curls.
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5g psyllium husk
EVENING
MK677 10mg
Fish oil
Multivitamins
N2Guard
Fadogia Agrestis
Body weight 184
Wake at 4:30am
7 hours uninterrupted
Body weight 185
50mg test prop
50mg primo
25mg proviron
5mg cialis
MORNING
Fish oil
Multivitamins
N2Guard
Fadogia Agrestis
3 sets of barefoot water skiing.
7am-9:30
42°f air! And we had seven people show up!
Water was 64°f
MEASUREMENTS
Right bicep 15”
Left bicep 14.5”
Left quad 24.5”
Right quad 24”
Waist 34”
Chest 47”
I’m not sure I got these totally right.
I flexed for the measurements, but no pump. My arms are smaller than they were, my bicep is still not 100% healed but I’m easing back into the curls.
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5g psyllium husk
EVENING
MK677 10mg
Fish oil
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This is a super mild stack that you're putting together. @toddthelineman And it's cool that you got some water skiing done. That is not easy. I tried it before I kept falling.
It takes practice and it helps to have really good instruction, tournament boat, smooth water, etc.
We host clinics and we’ll do just about anything to give the participants some success. Like four people in the water with you, and a skier on each side to hold you up hahaha. If you can get up, you can ski. When you’re new to it it usually makes your back really sore. Takes a lot of time to get your hips forward and feeling comfortable.
It’s great of you love a challenge because there’s no limit. Two skis too easy? Now do one ski. Now a trick ski with no fins, you can turn around and ski backwards. Get wide skis and carry a girl. I used to ski out of the water with my gf on my back and she’d climb over and make out with me hahaha.
N2guard is a cycle support supplement. It’s a little pricey, but I was taking a BUNCH of stuff and my alt ast wouldn’t budge. N2guard cut the levels in half, I just got the bloodwork back this week.
Fadogia Agrestis is like an herbal supplement that has a similar effect as HCG. Bigger nuts, bigger loads, and for some people like me, I really think it helps my mood. I used hcg for years and my e2 was too high the whole time. So I add HCGenerate(Fadogia based test booster with many other ingredients) or just Fadogia Agrestis that I’ve used before. I’ll take a bottle and then take a week or two off and if I feel not like myself I get another bottle
MK677 is a HGH secretagogue. If you take it at night it signals HGH sectretion very noticeably, and you will sleep and recover well and have decent muscle fullness. If you take it during the day you’ll be hungry like REALLY HUNGRY and sleepy hahaha. It’s orally available so very convenient to travel with and very easy on the pocket compared to HGH. I think the effects of 10mg a night are similar to 1, maybe 2 iu of rHGH. I haven’t gotten high blood pressure or carpal tunnel from it. I’m a huge fan. It’s not exactly the same as HGH, but it’s so close, so convenient, it’s kind of better. I literally have most of a kit of serostim and I don’t bother to use it. I’ll save it for an injury or something when I know I’m going to be home and don’t have to bring it in a cooler and all that hassle
thanks for sharing so in depth is that n2guard and fadogia agrestis easy to come buy? Keen to suss them.
Mk677, Haha i have 0 issues eating more food although ive never bulked properly so its might be useful when clean bulking in my new phase. Helps with sleep really! I meed anything i can get and is there oral and injection versions? Any major issues with mk677 to be aware of?
Mk677, Haha i have 0 issues eating more food although ive never bulked properly so its might be useful when clean bulking in my new phase. Helps with sleep really! I meed anything i can get and is there oral and injection versions? Any major issues with mk677 to be aware of?
I have heard that you can get it shipped to Australia and there are loggers doing it, but I’ve also heard that makes it really expensive. IMO, it’s probably worth it. If nothing else can get the enzymes down, what are they even worth? I took NAC, TUDCA, milk thistle, injectable glutathione. Wasn’t working. That cost a lot!
At 20mg I sleep very well, but I’ve done a lot of work to improve my sleep, I’ve tried every kooky thing, and it all contributes but just being very regular rhythm even on days off, that really helps.
I only know of oral versions. I get capsules. It’s also called nutrobal and ibutamoren, and I believe it’s going to be released as a prescription drug for muscle wasting diseases? I know of no interactions or acute dangers besides if you accidentally take it in the day time you can eat the entire fridge and I mean that. I was so hungry I wanted to fight people hahaha. I ate 15 tacos.
Yep. Todd does very well on high protein and works crazy hard too
nutrobal is like a sarm but its not a sarm. i don't know if any of these sarms will get approved. i don't think any of them have so far @toddthelineman
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Hard work and high protein he's doing perfect @toddthelineman
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@toddthelineman yeah n2guard does work. i think there are tens of thousands of supps out there and 99% of them don't do a thing. but n2guard is one of those 1% that actually do work
So it’s day four. I’ve found more green powder because I’m a hoarder lol I just keep throwing it away. I have always wondered what is going on with people who claim to have had horrible addictions to this stuff. I took it every single day for years. Sometimes an ounce a day, but not lately, just 10g maybe an extra 2.5g on a long day. I feel fine. I don’t feel better, I don’t feel worse. I feel just normal. I can feel things more, like the burn from lifting or my feet were cold when I was all wet riding 43mph in a boat when it was 42°f.
@toddthelineman looking good man bad luck that you lost your watch. At least they’re not stupid expensive if you can find used ones for a pretty cheap.
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It's a good move to throw it out and make the life change total
EVO family love your way. I truly love your transformation on the mindset and approach, lets do this. @BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum
A guy just texted me, said he found my other, older watch under a bed I slept in Wisconsin in march!
Annoying because I asked him back then and he never replied
I like change. I usually flip my life over every several years. Anxious to do it againIt's a good move to throw it out and make the life change total
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10/12/25 log
Body weight 184
Wake at 4:30am
Poor sleep. Maybe six hours
Body weight 188
50mg test prop
50mg primo
25mg proviron
90mg deca
5mg cialis
MORNING
Fish oil
Multivitamins
N2Guard
Fadogia Agrestis
Nap
ACTIVITY
Squat, bench, curl
See below
MIDDAY
5g psyllium husk
EVENING
MK677 10mg
Fish oil
Multivitamins
N2Guard
Fadogia Agrestis
Melatonin
Body weight 184
Wake at 4:30am
Poor sleep. Maybe six hours
Body weight 188
50mg test prop
50mg primo
25mg proviron
90mg deca
5mg cialis
MORNING
Fish oil
Multivitamins
N2Guard
Fadogia Agrestis
Nap
ACTIVITY
Squat, bench, curl
See below
MIDDAY
5g psyllium husk
EVENING
MK677 10mg
Fish oil
Multivitamins
N2Guard
Fadogia Agrestis
Melatonin
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Are you adding in the Cialis for the heart?
Killer!! Very much looking forward to following this. The pic with all the food thumbnails looks great man, nice work
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You have beautiful meal pics
@toddthelineman easy to look at for me.Good setup, test and primo at 50 mg each keeps levels balanced with deca at 90 mg for joint support. The 5 mg cialis daily is a solid choice for blood flow and BP control. But where is your primobolan from? @toddthelineman
Sleep at 6 hours will limit recovery, but you're not able to take naps at work right?
Keep training a bit higher volume with cardio if you can.
Oh it’s pharmaqo from domestic supply. I got it quite a while ago, I only have two vials unfortunately but it’s such a gentle steroid, it’s just the thing for me right now. As I’m building it will have to become EQ, which I’ve never tried, and I’ll be taking less of that and more test. 500/250 is the plan and continuing a minimal amount of deca of my mood stays good. Proviron seems to work. One odd thing that actually has been harkening since before I started the cycle is night sweats. Once a night I’m soaking everything. Even during a couple naps. I don’t normally do that
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Pharmaqo primobolan is high quality. @toddthelineman
Night sweats can come from fluctuating e2 or thyroid response, not just the compounds. 500/250 with eq or primo?
Add bloodwork soon for e2, prolactin, and thyroid to find the trigger.
bros yeah for sure
That’s my eq plan. I did find PSL has primo as well.
Didn’t get prolactin. I’ll get it on the next round
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How close to bedtime are you eating?
Maybe you're going hypo overnight? Ur running GH and eating low/no carb right.
I switched back to mk677, and more like carb cycling. I don’t really eat much carbs if I’m not doing much, and I let my cravings lead me. You may very well be right. Might look into a cgm just out of curiosity
yeah the person who was teaching me was not helpful. almost like they enjoyed seeing me fall off
Yea the MK might be leading to some overnight hypo, or maybe even just plain hunger lol.
There’s for sure complex things happening in my body rn. Proviron and increased test and primo sure feels good. I’m still blown away that I could just drop kratom like that. Even though I did it before. Pharmacologically it doesn’t make sense. I’ve been beating my dopamine receptors like they owe me money for years. But the sweats started before any of that. I’m not feeling the irrational hunger you get from daytime mk677, but I’m also not skiing like a full time job, lifting very heavy yet, or working anywhere near full capacity.
Was slightly out of range. I used to be double that. For a long long time, but I didn’t sleep well then. I’d sleep with the window open in the winter, and until late last summer. I didn’t have central air so I was sweating so much hahaha. Chick I was seeing wouldn’t even stay over anymore hahaha. It was in the shower only and then she’d go home
Oh man. Teaching people to barefoot is truly sadistic hahahaha
@toddthelineman great update, man, and I love the picture of the gear
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E2 numbers not bad high side a bit, can we add a bit of eq? or you want primobolan? @toddthelineman
I’m interested in trying EQ and I have some. The bloods are from 150mg/ wk test e, so they don’t represent the cycle I’ve started.
I decided to use the primo that I have because I know for sure that I like it and I don’t react badly to it in any way. EQ I’ve never done, but I gather it can be pretty strong. I’m not sure I need that kind of fire power just yet.
Do you usually count proviron when adding up total weekly androgens? If so, I’m already at 965mg/wk. more than triple the amount of anything I’ve taken for a sustained time. I feel muuuuuuch better. But it hasn’t even been a week yet.
Hence the word "was" seeing. She needed to embrace the suck of the Todd sweat and she didn't. 86 her!Was slightly out of range. I used to be double that. For a long long time, but I didn’t sleep well then. I’d sleep with the window open in the winter, and until late last summer. I didn’t have central air so I was sweating so much hahaha. Chick I was seeing wouldn’t even stay over anymore hahaha. It was in the shower only and then she’d go home
No don't count proviron, not really no.
Aw naw she was great. I just talked to her last week. But I’m glad she didn’t move in hahaha. She’s a bartender. It wouldn’t work out.
Best thing about living with my kids is they keep the strays away. All the chicks I get are scared of my kids.
I wouldn't think about totals and stuff too too much. Even if 25mg of Proviron shoots your total up by 175mg a week I wouldn't sweat it. It doesn't, but even if it did it's not a biggie
Yeah I feel pretty good about it. Everything seems fine. The one time I hit 500mg test I felt freaking amazing but I wasn’t prepared for the e2 at all. I’m definitely holding water. 188 pounds and my shirts don’t fit.
10/13/25 log
Body weight 188
Wake at 4:00am
Ok sleep. Maybe seven hours
Body weight 188
50mg test prop
50mg primo
25mg proviron
90mg deca
MORNING
N2Guard
ACTIVITY
>15000 steps. Pull lots of cable
See below
MIDDAY
5g psyllium husk
EVENING
MK677 10mg
Fish oil
Multivitamins
Fadogia Agrestis
Melatonin
Body weight 188
Wake at 4:00am
Ok sleep. Maybe seven hours
Body weight 188
50mg test prop
50mg primo
25mg proviron
90mg deca
MORNING
N2Guard
ACTIVITY
>15000 steps. Pull lots of cable
See below
MIDDAY
5g psyllium husk
EVENING
MK677 10mg
Fish oil
Multivitamins
Fadogia Agrestis
Melatonin
Attachments
Yeah. I swallowed a lot of water.
Blueberries on eggs???
