Thoughts on AC262 & other sarms

[uzmah5]

I’m thinking about trying out sarms, my top pick as of now is ac262 due to the low risk profile.

I’m not after steroid like gains, my main goal is to maximise muscle gain while maintaining fertility.

I’m currently using HGH 5iu before bed and 20mg MK677 to keep pulsatile GH. Also because I can’t sleep on HGH, MK677 sleep is to good to give up.

I’m open to sarms were the pct only requires enclomiphene instead of testosterone.

Please share any experiences or knowledge you have with sarms.

 

[uzmah5]

Edit: I’m also considering IGF1 LR3, again I don’t mind taking anything or something mild as long as my fertility remains

 

[letsgo]

SARMs are a waste of time. Use steroids and manage any sides with smart use

 

[uzmah5]

SARMs are a waste of time. Use steroids and manage any sides with smart use

Like I said above I don’t need steroid like gains, I’m fine with a mild compound. I don’t want any risk to my fertility as stated above.

 

[R.AP]

Like I said above I don’t need steroid like gains, I’m fine with a mild compound. I don’t want any risk to my fertility as stated above.

Most SARMS will also bring a strong risk of shutting down your HPTA and fertility brother. Your main goal is to put on some muscle but you don't want to run a steroid cycle I'd recommend getting your training and nutrition looked at with a coach or someone knowledgeable.

What do each look like at the moment?

 

[uzmah5]

Most SARMS will also bring a strong risk of shutting down your HPTA and fertility brother. Your main goal is to put on some muscle but you don't want to run a steroid cycle I'd recommend getting your training and nutrition looked at with a coach or someone knowledgeable.

What do each look like at the moment?

From what I’ve heard ac262 is very mild in terms of sides and also the gains.

My nutrition is all whole foods, rarely eating processed foods.

 

[LevButlerov]

I’m thinking about trying out sarms, my top pick as of now is ac262 due to the low risk profile.

I’m not after steroid like gains, my main goal is to maximise muscle gain while maintaining fertility.

I’m currently using HGH 5iu before bed and 20mg MK677 to keep pulsatile GH. Also because I can’t sleep on HGH, MK677 sleep is to good to give up.

I’m open to sarms were the pct only requires enclomiphene instead of testosterone.

Please share any experiences or knowledge you have with sarms.

Edit: I’m also considering IGF1 LR3, again I don’t mind taking anything or something mild as long as my fertility remains

You've been here a while and I mentioned this to you before @uzmah5 we need to see your log before we help you
did you see the other logs we have?

 

[stevesmi]

I’m thinking about trying out sarms, my top pick as of now is ac262 due to the low risk profile.

I’m not after steroid like gains, my main goal is to maximise muscle gain while maintaining fertility.

I’m currently using HGH 5iu before bed and 20mg MK677 to keep pulsatile GH. Also because I can’t sleep on HGH, MK677 sleep is to good to give up.

I’m open to sarms were the pct only requires enclomiphene instead of testosterone.

Please share any experiences or knowledge you have with sarms.

I'd recommend LGD or RAD or even Ostarine, and then stacking it with some GW. That would be a simple SARM stack that works.

 

[ceo]

I’m thinking about trying out sarms, my top pick as of now is ac262 due to the low risk profile.

I’m not after steroid like gains, my main goal is to maximise muscle gain while maintaining fertility.

I’m currently using HGH 5iu before bed and 20mg MK677 to keep pulsatile GH. Also because I can’t sleep on HGH, MK677 sleep is to good to give up.

I’m open to sarms were the pct only requires enclomiphene instead of testosterone.

Please share any experiences or knowledge you have with sarms.

Bros, what about doing some LGD 20 milligrams a day? I think it's better than AC.

 

[Ulter]

I’m thinking about trying out sarms, my top pick as of now is ac262 due to the low risk profile.

I’m not after steroid like gains, my main goal is to maximise muscle gain while maintaining fertility.

I’m currently using HGH 5iu before bed and 20mg MK677 to keep pulsatile GH. Also because I can’t sleep on HGH, MK677 sleep is to good to give up.

I’m open to sarms were the pct only requires enclomiphene instead of testosterone.

Please share any experiences or knowledge you have with sarms.

I think you'll do fine on AC really with SARMs. They're all pretty similar. They all do similar things amongst the bulking SARMs.

 

[Mobster]

All our sources sell sarms but No 1 is Umbrella Labs followed by PSL, NapsGear or UGFreak

 

[ROIDDERS]

I’m thinking about trying out sarms, my top pick as of now is ac262 due to the low risk profile.

I’m not after steroid like gains, my main goal is to maximise muscle gain while maintaining fertility.

I’m currently using HGH 5iu before bed and 20mg MK677 to keep pulsatile GH. Also because I can’t sleep on HGH, MK677 sleep is to good to give up.

I’m open to sarms were the pct only requires enclomiphene instead of testosterone.

Please share any experiences or knowledge you have with sarms.

I don't understand where you say PCT requires nolvadex (clomiphene) instead of testosterone. Please explain what you mean by that. I think that you might have a misunderstanding.

 

[2Thick]

I’m thinking about trying out sarms, my top pick as of now is ac262 due to the low risk profile.

I’m not after steroid like gains, my main goal is to maximise muscle gain while maintaining fertility.

I’m currently using HGH 5iu before bed and 20mg MK677 to keep pulsatile GH. Also because I can’t sleep on HGH, MK677 sleep is to good to give up.

I’m open to sarms were the pct only requires enclomiphene instead of testosterone.

Please share any experiences or knowledge you have with sarms.

I don't know much about AC, but I have heard good things about it. I've had a lot of experience over the years with LGD. I think it's the best SARM, to be honest.

 

[uzmah5]

You've been here a while and I mentioned this to you before @uzmah5 we need to see your log before we help you
did you see the other logs we have?

Realistically not going to be opening a log, I ask a question here and there.

 

[uzmah5]

I'd recommend LGD or RAD or even Ostarine, and then stacking it with some GW. That would be a simple SARM stack that works.

I’ll look into LGD & Ostarine, from what I’ve seen RAD suppressed testosterone quite a bit. Would enclomiphene during or after a RAD, LGD or Ostarine cycle be enough to get everything back to normal?

(I’m already on cardarine)

 

[uzmah5]

I don't understand where you say PCT requires nolvadex (clomiphene) instead of testosterone. Please explain what you mean by that. I think that you might have a misunderstanding.

What I’m trying to say is that I have no intention of using testosterone as I don’t want any risk of affecting my fertility. I’m fine with using enclomiphene as it doesn’t shut me down.

 

[uzmah5]

Bros, what about doing some LGD 20 milligrams a day? I think it's better than AC.

I’m open to using LGD as long as it’s not going to cause major suppression. If it does cause suppression if using enclomiphene during or post cycle is enough to get me back to normal I’m okay with using it.

 

[uzmah5]

I don't know much about AC, but I have heard good things about it. I've had a lot of experience over the years with LGD. I think it's the best SARM, to be honest.

Same here, I’ve yet to hear anything bad. The worst I’ve heard is that it’s mild but I’m fine with that as long as it helps to some degree.

How was your experience on LGD, did it cause major suppression. If so were you able to recover by using enclomiphene?

 

[uzmah5]

I think you'll do fine on AC really with SARMs. They're all pretty similar. They all do similar things amongst the bulking SARMs.

Fair enough, realistically there isn’t really anything for me lose testing out AC since the risk profile is so low. I’ll give it a go unless I find something better.

I’m open to any compound that only requires enclomiphene for pct

 

[uzmah5]

I'd recommend LGD or RAD or even Ostarine, and then stacking it with some GW. That would be a simple SARM stack that works.

Have you used any of these sarms, if so how was your experience and did you notice any suppression?

If you did notice suppression, were you able to recover easily with enclomiphene?

 

[stevesmi]

I’ll look into LGD & Ostarine, from what I’ve seen RAD suppressed testosterone quite a bit. Would enclomiphene during or after a RAD, LGD or Ostarine cycle be enough to get everything back to normal?

(I’m already on cardarine)

all SARMs are suppressive to a certain degree. Remember GW is not actually a SARM, so you don't have any suppression on it. It's a drug.

 

[stevesmi]

Have you used any of these sarms, if so how was your experience and did you notice any suppression?

If you did notice suppression, were you able to recover easily with enclomiphene?

Yes, of course I've used SARMs. I've used most of them, and yes, you will recover quite easily assuming it's legit SARMs. That's literally the purpose why people use them.

 

[uzmah5]

all SARMs are suppressive to a certain degree. Remember GW is not actually a SARM, so you don't have any suppression on it. It's a drug.

Yes I’m aware I’m just trying to pick something that isn’t overly suppressive, a sarm where enclomiphene is enough to get me back to baseline.

I’ve heard that RAD140 is extremely suppressive when compared to other sarms making a full recovery more difficult, I’m trying to find a good middle ground for muscle gain and easy recovery

 

[uzmah5]

Yes, of course I've used SARMs. I've used most of them, and yes, you will recover quite easily assuming it's legit SARMs. That's literally the purpose why people use them.

How was your experience with LGD & RAD in terms of getting your testosterone back, would enclomiphene be enough and should it be used during or post cycle?

I see lots of mixed opinions of when enclomiphene should be used.

 

[stevesmi]

How was your experience with LGD & RAD in terms of getting your testosterone back, would enclomiphene be enough and should it be used during or post cycle?

I see lots of mixed opinions of when enclomiphene should be used.

Buddy, if you’re scared of being shut down, then go sarms you’ll have a much better experience

 

[LevButlerov]

Realistically not going to be opening a log, I ask a question here and there.

If you can't open a log, you wont get proper help. I'm sorry I don't think we can help you without knowing more about you @uzmah5
you'll likely get poor results and have bad suppression post cycle, likely crash your natural test levels and come back to EVO in a few years with low test depression and TRT-needed symptoms. Que the clock. I'll be waiting for you to come back and start a log when you're not getting what you thougth you wanted.

I’ll look into LGD & Ostarine, from what I’ve seen RAD suppressed testosterone quite a bit. Would enclomiphene during or after a RAD, LGD or Ostarine cycle be enough to get everything back to normal?

(I’m already on cardarine)

 

[Ulter]

Fair enough, realistically there isn’t really anything for me lose testing out AC since the risk profile is so low. I’ll give it a go unless I find something better.

I’m open to any compound that only requires enclomiphene for pct

enclomiphene sucks. use clomid or nolvadex

 

[ceo]

I’m open to using LGD as long as it’s not going to cause major suppression. If it does cause suppression if using enclomiphene during or post cycle is enough to get me back to normal I’m okay with using it.

Bros, if you are so worried, then stick with things like Nutrobal and GW.

 

[2Thick]

Same here, I’ve yet to hear anything bad. The worst I’ve heard is that it’s mild but I’m fine with that as long as it helps to some degree.

How was your experience on LGD, did it cause major suppression. If so were you able to recover by using enclomiphene?

I think you're making this way too complicated. What you take in PCT does not help your recovery. It prevents a hard landing. There's a big difference between the two. Only your own body can recover.

 

[ROIDDERS]

What I’m trying to say is that I have no intention of using testosterone as I don’t want any risk of affecting my fertility. I’m fine with using enclomiphene as it doesn’t shut me down.

Okay, that makes sense.

 

[HarleyGuy]

I’m thinking about trying out sarms, my top pick as of now is ac262 due to the low risk profile.

I’m not after steroid like gains, my main goal is to maximise muscle gain while maintaining fertility.

I’m currently using HGH 5iu before bed and 20mg MK677 to keep pulsatile GH. Also because I can’t sleep on HGH, MK677 sleep is to good to give up.

I’m open to sarms were the pct only requires enclomiphene instead of testosterone.

Please share any experiences or knowledge you have with sarms.

No need to double post the same question bro: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/rad140-enclomiphene.108387/

Without knowing more about you or having a log you can get general advice here on SARMS and the stack that @stevesmi laid out is sound advice backed by clinical and anecdotal data. No need to get clever with something like ac262, use what has the most data and is in logs here or that is backed by results elsewhere.

Question though... are you still only 66kg fasted after losing all the weight? And has the heart pain come back or was it indigestion that one time as we suspected? I don't recall you mentioning your age nor know your history either so 5iu HGH and 20mg MK677 is too high on it's face, and running IG1-LR3 alongside that is way overkill, what are you goals with a stack like this? IGF1-LR3 degrades in a 1mg vial long before you're finished it especially when using bac water too, did you know that?

I'd take the plunge as @LevButlerov pointed out and just throw up your info in a log and get baseline bloodwork. We can supervise your SARM usage and then see using bloodwork if the enclomiphene gets your HPTA (LH and FSH at least) back into a higher gear afterwards. I don't believe for a second that any SARM doesn't shut you down to some extent.