Approved Log Retatrutide Journey for Life Change

3xCharm · Dec 28, 2025

Hello EVO Family, I am 3xCharm (formerly poopoobum)

@ZenithHealth was extremely generous in sponsoring me for Retatrutide, I recently reached below 90kg which is amazing!

So if you haven't read the other forum threads, I am in early recovery for alcohol addiction, the rehab I attended is owned by a current WBL Welterweight Champion (He's in his late 50s so I dont know if he's the champion of is age bracket or the whole division or maybe the WBL is just for old cunts but hey, an achievement none the less) in this rehab we attended boxing in the mornings and gym in the afternoon, this gave me the platform to getting active again.

Whilst in the rehab I was taking a gaggle of more than likely out of date PEDs, I took the last of them the morning before my flight to the Phillipines so when I get home, I have no PEDs which I want to be part of this journey under the guidance of the EVO Family, I also need to get bloods done to see where my health is and how fatty my liver is at the moment, I managed to get 18 months sobriety before and just before I busted my liver was back to healthy levels, I do not expect this now as I have only recently stopped drinking.

Whilst in the Phillipines and I have been attending 1 on 1 boxing classes and attending the gym twice a day, when I goto the gym I work out quick as can; I dont enjoy it (I wish I had the that spark again when I was in my 20s when I LOVED going to the gym, maybe in time this will return) so I rush through my sets to get out as quick as I can.

Obviously I like the result of going to said gym but just not the work, same for the boxing, the cardio side of it is painful but I have fallen in love with the technical side of it and I always enjoy going. The trainer I have here is amazing, he pushes me hard, punishes me for not completing things etc I wish I could pack him in my suitcase and bring him home.

I am the fittest and best looking I have been in 10 years which is an extremely strong motivator, I couldnt of achieved this without sobriety another strong motivator to stay sober, I took the Ozempic journey because I was overweight and I had read that it was being used for treating alcoholism but for me it didnt work (I am highly skeptical it works at all for addiction) Even if my body is rejecting alcohol I will still imbibe it, hence why people drink themselves to death. My hypothisis is that people who casually drink noticed consuming alcohol was harder to do just as eating is harder to do on Ozempic. In my personal experience being in and out of Alcoholics Anonymous and rehab 3 times, there is no magic pill to stop addiction. You have created new neural pathways in your brain that are constantly crying out for dopamine so if you dopamine rush is Gambling, Alcohol, Illicit Drugs, Sex, Food etc, then total abstinence for a certain amount of time is the only solution but I am not preaching and you are allowed to believe whatever you want.

I will be taking the Retatrutide from the 06/01/2025 (01/06/2025) when I arrive home in Australia and wanted to create a checklist

1) Start Retatrutide
2) Get bloods done (have asked others in the EVO Family where to get this done but I look at the websites and I cant see pricing, some help here would be great!)
3) Providing we all agree my health is able to do PEDs, Acquire PEDs. (Suggested Sellers please and suggested stack)
4) Keep reporting here on my progress relating to Retatrutide, Fitness and Gym.

I also need to add that my natural test levels and when I say natural as in my natural production before ever touching PEDs was bad, I have had bouts of erectile dysfunction since my early 20s, I was on TRT in my late 20's until my wife wanted to have a baby and had to cease them to conceive. So from my perspective my stacks will be a mixture of 'cruising' in the TRT snse and stacking in the building stage.

Let me know you thoughts and opinions on all of this and if I am wrong.

Special shout out to @HarleyGuy my AA Sponsor and @LevButlerov who has been a particular stick in the mud and making me come to evolutionary more and really taking this place more seriously.

Love to you all and the constant well wishes, advice and interest in my journey from the EVO Family!!

HarleyGuy · Dec 28, 2025

3xCharm said:
Hello EVO Family, I am 3xCharm (formerly poopoobum)

@ZenithHealth was extremely generous in sponsoring me for Retatrutide, I recently reached below 90kg which is amazing!

So if you haven't read the other forum threads, I am in early recovery for alcohol addiction, the rehab I attended is owned by a current WBL Welterweight Champion (He's in his late 50s so I dont know if he's the champion of is age bracket or the whole division or maybe the WBL is just for old cunts but hey, an achievement none the less) in this rehab we attended boxing in the mornings and gym in the afternoon, this gave me the platform to getting active again.

Whilst in the rehab I was taking a gaggle of more than likely out of date PEDs, I took the last of them the morning before my flight to the Phillipines so when I get home, I have no PEDs which I want to be part of this journey under the guidance of the EVO Family, I also need to get bloods done to see where my health is and how fatty my liver is at the moment, I managed to get 18 months sobriety before and just before I busted my liver was back to healthy levels, I do not expect this now as I have only recently stopped drinking.

Whilst in the Phillipines and I have been attending 1 on 1 boxing classes and attending the gym twice a day, when I goto the gym I work out quick as can; I dont enjoy it (I wish I had the that spark again when I was in my 20s when I LOVED going to the gym, maybe in time this will return) so I rush through my sets to get out as quick as I can.

Obviously I like the result of going to said gym but just not the work, same for the boxing, the cardio side of it is painful but I have fallen in love with the technical side of it and I always enjoy going. The trainer I have here is amazing, he pushes me hard, punishes me for not completing things etc I wish I could pack him in my suitcase and bring him home.

I am the fittest and best looking I have been in 10 years which is an extremely strong motivator, I couldnt of achieved this without sobriety another strong motivator to stay sober, I took the Ozempic journey because I was overweight and I had read that it was being used for treating alcoholism but for me it didnt work (I am highly skeptical it works at all for addiction) Even if my body is rejecting alcohol I will still imbibe it, hence why people drink themselves to death. My hypothisis is that people who casually drink noticed consuming alcohol was harder to do just as eating is harder to do on Ozempic. In my personal experience being in and out of Alcoholics Anonymous and rehab 3 times, there is no magic pill to stop addiction. You have created new neural pathways in your brain that are constantly crying out for dopamine so if you dopamine rush is Gambling, Alcohol, Illicit Drugs, Sex, Food etc, then total abstinence for a certain amount of time is the only solution but I am not preaching and you are allowed to believe whatever you want.

I will be taking the Retatrutide from the 06/01/2025 (01/06/2025) when I arrive home in Australia and wanted to create a checklist

1) Start Retatrutide
2) Get bloods done (have asked others in the EVO Family where to get this done but I look at the websites and I cant see pricing, some help here would be great!)
3) Providing we all agree my health is able to do PEDs, Acquire PEDs. (Suggested Sellers please and suggested stack)
4) Keep reporting here on my progress relating to Retatrutide, Fitness and Gym.

I also need to add that my natural test levels and when I say natural as in my natural production before ever touching PEDs was bad, I have had bouts of erectile dysfunction since my early 20s, I was on TRT in my late 20's until my wife wanted to have a baby and had to cease them to conceive. So from my perspective my stacks will be a mixture of 'cruising' in the TRT snse and stacking in the building stage.

Let me know you thoughts and opinions on all of this and if I am wrong.

Special shout out to @HarleyGuy my AA Sponsor and @LevButlerov who has been a particular stick in the mud and making me come to evolutionary more and really taking this place more seriously.

Love to you all and the constant well wishes, advice and interest in my journey from the EVO Family!!

This is a great log update I'm gonna suggest this get put in the mod queue to move it to your log and I'll reply there. @LevButlerov @Eddie Haskell @Pigsy
The Reta is going to be a game changer for you.

Kopite67 · Dec 28, 2025

3xCharm said:
Hello EVO Family, I am 3xCharm (formerly poopoobum)

@ZenithHealth was extremely generous in sponsoring me for Retatrutide, I recently reached below 90kg which is amazing!

So if you haven't read the other forum threads, I am in early recovery for alcohol addiction, the rehab I attended is owned by a current WBL Welterweight Champion (He's in his late 50s so I dont know if he's the champion of is age bracket or the whole division or maybe the WBL is just for old cunts but hey, an achievement none the less) in this rehab we attended boxing in the mornings and gym in the afternoon, this gave me the platform to getting active again.

Whilst in the rehab I was taking a gaggle of more than likely out of date PEDs, I took the last of them the morning before my flight to the Phillipines so when I get home, I have no PEDs which I want to be part of this journey under the guidance of the EVO Family, I also need to get bloods done to see where my health is and how fatty my liver is at the moment, I managed to get 18 months sobriety before and just before I busted my liver was back to healthy levels, I do not expect this now as I have only recently stopped drinking.

Whilst in the Phillipines and I have been attending 1 on 1 boxing classes and attending the gym twice a day, when I goto the gym I work out quick as can; I dont enjoy it (I wish I had the that spark again when I was in my 20s when I LOVED going to the gym, maybe in time this will return) so I rush through my sets to get out as quick as I can.

Obviously I like the result of going to said gym but just not the work, same for the boxing, the cardio side of it is painful but I have fallen in love with the technical side of it and I always enjoy going. The trainer I have here is amazing, he pushes me hard, punishes me for not completing things etc I wish I could pack him in my suitcase and bring him home.

I am the fittest and best looking I have been in 10 years which is an extremely strong motivator, I couldnt of achieved this without sobriety another strong motivator to stay sober, I took the Ozempic journey because I was overweight and I had read that it was being used for treating alcoholism but for me it didnt work (I am highly skeptical it works at all for addiction) Even if my body is rejecting alcohol I will still imbibe it, hence why people drink themselves to death. My hypothisis is that people who casually drink noticed consuming alcohol was harder to do just as eating is harder to do on Ozempic. In my personal experience being in and out of Alcoholics Anonymous and rehab 3 times, there is no magic pill to stop addiction. You have created new neural pathways in your brain that are constantly crying out for dopamine so if you dopamine rush is Gambling, Alcohol, Illicit Drugs, Sex, Food etc, then total abstinence for a certain amount of time is the only solution but I am not preaching and you are allowed to believe whatever you want.

I will be taking the Retatrutide from the 06/01/2025 (01/06/2025) when I arrive home in Australia and wanted to create a checklist

1) Start Retatrutide
2) Get bloods done (have asked others in the EVO Family where to get this done but I look at the websites and I cant see pricing, some help here would be great!)
3) Providing we all agree my health is able to do PEDs, Acquire PEDs. (Suggested Sellers please and suggested stack)
4) Keep reporting here on my progress relating to Retatrutide, Fitness and Gym.

I also need to add that my natural test levels and when I say natural as in my natural production before ever touching PEDs was bad, I have had bouts of erectile dysfunction since my early 20s, I was on TRT in my late 20's until my wife wanted to have a baby and had to cease them to conceive. So from my perspective my stacks will be a mixture of 'cruising' in the TRT snse and stacking in the building stage.

Let me know you thoughts and opinions on all of this and if I am wrong.

Special shout out to @HarleyGuy my AA Sponsor and @LevButlerov who has been a particular stick in the mud and making me come to evolutionary more and really taking this place more seriously.

Love to you all and the constant well wishes, advice and interest in my journey from the EVO Family!!

Hey brother, great log start.
For bloods in Aus, I and a few of the other Oz brothers use imedical. I will DM the costs to you.

LevButlerov · Dec 28, 2025

3xCharm said:
Hello EVO Family, I am 3xCharm (formerly poopoobum)

@ZenithHealth was extremely generous in sponsoring me for Retatrutide, I recently reached below 90kg which is amazing!

So if you haven't read the other forum threads, I am in early recovery for alcohol addiction, the rehab I attended is owned by a current WBL Welterweight Champion (He's in his late 50s so I dont know if he's the champion of is age bracket or the whole division or maybe the WBL is just for old cunts but hey, an achievement none the less) in this rehab we attended boxing in the mornings and gym in the afternoon, this gave me the platform to getting active again.

Whilst in the rehab I was taking a gaggle of more than likely out of date PEDs, I took the last of them the morning before my flight to the Phillipines so when I get home, I have no PEDs which I want to be part of this journey under the guidance of the EVO Family, I also need to get bloods done to see where my health is and how fatty my liver is at the moment, I managed to get 18 months sobriety before and just before I busted my liver was back to healthy levels, I do not expect this now as I have only recently stopped drinking.

Whilst in the Phillipines and I have been attending 1 on 1 boxing classes and attending the gym twice a day, when I goto the gym I work out quick as can; I dont enjoy it (I wish I had the that spark again when I was in my 20s when I LOVED going to the gym, maybe in time this will return) so I rush through my sets to get out as quick as I can.

Obviously I like the result of going to said gym but just not the work, same for the boxing, the cardio side of it is painful but I have fallen in love with the technical side of it and I always enjoy going. The trainer I have here is amazing, he pushes me hard, punishes me for not completing things etc I wish I could pack him in my suitcase and bring him home.

I am the fittest and best looking I have been in 10 years which is an extremely strong motivator, I couldnt of achieved this without sobriety another strong motivator to stay sober, I took the Ozempic journey because I was overweight and I had read that it was being used for treating alcoholism but for me it didnt work (I am highly skeptical it works at all for addiction) Even if my body is rejecting alcohol I will still imbibe it, hence why people drink themselves to death. My hypothisis is that people who casually drink noticed consuming alcohol was harder to do just as eating is harder to do on Ozempic. In my personal experience being in and out of Alcoholics Anonymous and rehab 3 times, there is no magic pill to stop addiction. You have created new neural pathways in your brain that are constantly crying out for dopamine so if you dopamine rush is Gambling, Alcohol, Illicit Drugs, Sex, Food etc, then total abstinence for a certain amount of time is the only solution but I am not preaching and you are allowed to believe whatever you want.

I will be taking the Retatrutide from the 06/01/2025 (01/06/2025) when I arrive home in Australia and wanted to create a checklist

1) Start Retatrutide
2) Get bloods done (have asked others in the EVO Family where to get this done but I look at the websites and I cant see pricing, some help here would be great!)
3) Providing we all agree my health is able to do PEDs, Acquire PEDs. (Suggested Sellers please and suggested stack)
4) Keep reporting here on my progress relating to Retatrutide, Fitness and Gym.

I also need to add that my natural test levels and when I say natural as in my natural production before ever touching PEDs was bad, I have had bouts of erectile dysfunction since my early 20s, I was on TRT in my late 20's until my wife wanted to have a baby and had to cease them to conceive. So from my perspective my stacks will be a mixture of 'cruising' in the TRT snse and stacking in the building stage.

Let me know you thoughts and opinions on all of this and if I am wrong.

Special shout out to @HarleyGuy my AA Sponsor and @LevButlerov who has been a particular stick in the mud and making me come to evolutionary more and really taking this place more seriously.

Love to you all and the constant well wishes, advice and interest in my journey from the EVO Family!!

Happy to see you getting into Retatrutide

it's good for addiction and recomp body changes, so perfect for you! @3xCharm
and thank you to @HarleyGuy for supporting you doing this hard time.
EVO family support and love your way!

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stevesmi · Dec 28, 2025

3xCharm said:
Hello EVO Family, I am 3xCharm (formerly poopoobum)

@ZenithHealth was extremely generous in sponsoring me for Retatrutide, I recently reached below 90kg which is amazing!

So if you haven't read the other forum threads, I am in early recovery for alcohol addiction, the rehab I attended is owned by a current WBL Welterweight Champion (He's in his late 50s so I dont know if he's the champion of is age bracket or the whole division or maybe the WBL is just for old cunts but hey, an achievement none the less) in this rehab we attended boxing in the mornings and gym in the afternoon, this gave me the platform to getting active again.

Whilst in the rehab I was taking a gaggle of more than likely out of date PEDs, I took the last of them the morning before my flight to the Phillipines so when I get home, I have no PEDs which I want to be part of this journey under the guidance of the EVO Family, I also need to get bloods done to see where my health is and how fatty my liver is at the moment, I managed to get 18 months sobriety before and just before I busted my liver was back to healthy levels, I do not expect this now as I have only recently stopped drinking.

Whilst in the Phillipines and I have been attending 1 on 1 boxing classes and attending the gym twice a day, when I goto the gym I work out quick as can; I dont enjoy it (I wish I had the that spark again when I was in my 20s when I LOVED going to the gym, maybe in time this will return) so I rush through my sets to get out as quick as I can.

Obviously I like the result of going to said gym but just not the work, same for the boxing, the cardio side of it is painful but I have fallen in love with the technical side of it and I always enjoy going. The trainer I have here is amazing, he pushes me hard, punishes me for not completing things etc I wish I could pack him in my suitcase and bring him home.

I am the fittest and best looking I have been in 10 years which is an extremely strong motivator, I couldnt of achieved this without sobriety another strong motivator to stay sober, I took the Ozempic journey because I was overweight and I had read that it was being used for treating alcoholism but for me it didnt work (I am highly skeptical it works at all for addiction) Even if my body is rejecting alcohol I will still imbibe it, hence why people drink themselves to death. My hypothisis is that people who casually drink noticed consuming alcohol was harder to do just as eating is harder to do on Ozempic. In my personal experience being in and out of Alcoholics Anonymous and rehab 3 times, there is no magic pill to stop addiction. You have created new neural pathways in your brain that are constantly crying out for dopamine so if you dopamine rush is Gambling, Alcohol, Illicit Drugs, Sex, Food etc, then total abstinence for a certain amount of time is the only solution but I am not preaching and you are allowed to believe whatever you want.

I will be taking the Retatrutide from the 06/01/2025 (01/06/2025) when I arrive home in Australia and wanted to create a checklist

1) Start Retatrutide
2) Get bloods done (have asked others in the EVO Family where to get this done but I look at the websites and I cant see pricing, some help here would be great!)
3) Providing we all agree my health is able to do PEDs, Acquire PEDs. (Suggested Sellers please and suggested stack)
4) Keep reporting here on my progress relating to Retatrutide, Fitness and Gym.

I also need to add that my natural test levels and when I say natural as in my natural production before ever touching PEDs was bad, I have had bouts of erectile dysfunction since my early 20s, I was on TRT in my late 20's until my wife wanted to have a baby and had to cease them to conceive. So from my perspective my stacks will be a mixture of 'cruising' in the TRT snse and stacking in the building stage.

Let me know you thoughts and opinions on all of this and if I am wrong.

Special shout out to @HarleyGuy my AA Sponsor and @LevButlerov who has been a particular stick in the mud and making me come to evolutionary more and really taking this place more seriously.

Love to you all and the constant well wishes, advice and interest in my journey from the EVO Family!!

@3xCharm looking forward to having you on the podcast in the next week. We're going to go over all of this. It's going to be epic.

R.AP · Dec 28, 2025

3xCharm said:
Hello EVO Family, I am 3xCharm (formerly poopoobum)

@ZenithHealth was extremely generous in sponsoring me for Retatrutide, I recently reached below 90kg which is amazing!

So if you haven't read the other forum threads, I am in early recovery for alcohol addiction, the rehab I attended is owned by a current WBL Welterweight Champion (He's in his late 50s so I dont know if he's the champion of is age bracket or the whole division or maybe the WBL is just for old cunts but hey, an achievement none the less) in this rehab we attended boxing in the mornings and gym in the afternoon, this gave me the platform to getting active again.

Whilst in the rehab I was taking a gaggle of more than likely out of date PEDs, I took the last of them the morning before my flight to the Phillipines so when I get home, I have no PEDs which I want to be part of this journey under the guidance of the EVO Family, I also need to get bloods done to see where my health is and how fatty my liver is at the moment, I managed to get 18 months sobriety before and just before I busted my liver was back to healthy levels, I do not expect this now as I have only recently stopped drinking.

Whilst in the Phillipines and I have been attending 1 on 1 boxing classes and attending the gym twice a day, when I goto the gym I work out quick as can; I dont enjoy it (I wish I had the that spark again when I was in my 20s when I LOVED going to the gym, maybe in time this will return) so I rush through my sets to get out as quick as I can.

Obviously I like the result of going to said gym but just not the work, same for the boxing, the cardio side of it is painful but I have fallen in love with the technical side of it and I always enjoy going. The trainer I have here is amazing, he pushes me hard, punishes me for not completing things etc I wish I could pack him in my suitcase and bring him home.

I am the fittest and best looking I have been in 10 years which is an extremely strong motivator, I couldnt of achieved this without sobriety another strong motivator to stay sober, I took the Ozempic journey because I was overweight and I had read that it was being used for treating alcoholism but for me it didnt work (I am highly skeptical it works at all for addiction) Even if my body is rejecting alcohol I will still imbibe it, hence why people drink themselves to death. My hypothisis is that people who casually drink noticed consuming alcohol was harder to do just as eating is harder to do on Ozempic. In my personal experience being in and out of Alcoholics Anonymous and rehab 3 times, there is no magic pill to stop addiction. You have created new neural pathways in your brain that are constantly crying out for dopamine so if you dopamine rush is Gambling, Alcohol, Illicit Drugs, Sex, Food etc, then total abstinence for a certain amount of time is the only solution but I am not preaching and you are allowed to believe whatever you want.

I will be taking the Retatrutide from the 06/01/2025 (01/06/2025) when I arrive home in Australia and wanted to create a checklist

1) Start Retatrutide
2) Get bloods done (have asked others in the EVO Family where to get this done but I look at the websites and I cant see pricing, some help here would be great!)
3) Providing we all agree my health is able to do PEDs, Acquire PEDs. (Suggested Sellers please and suggested stack)
4) Keep reporting here on my progress relating to Retatrutide, Fitness and Gym.

I also need to add that my natural test levels and when I say natural as in my natural production before ever touching PEDs was bad, I have had bouts of erectile dysfunction since my early 20s, I was on TRT in my late 20's until my wife wanted to have a baby and had to cease them to conceive. So from my perspective my stacks will be a mixture of 'cruising' in the TRT snse and stacking in the building stage.

Let me know you thoughts and opinions on all of this and if I am wrong.

Special shout out to @HarleyGuy my AA Sponsor and @LevButlerov who has been a particular stick in the mud and making me come to evolutionary more and really taking this place more seriously.

Love to you all and the constant well wishes, advice and interest in my journey from the EVO Family!!

USERNAME FIXED LETS GO SON! I'll be following this. Make sure to share your bloods so I can have a look-see!

Mobster · Dec 29, 2025

Be sure to keep posting in the other log too. TY

3xCharm · Dec 29, 2025

Mobster said:
Be sure to keep posting in the other log too. TY

Alcohol or Sema?

Ulter · Dec 29, 2025

3xCharm said:
Hello EVO Family, I am 3xCharm (formerly poopoobum)

@ZenithHealth was extremely generous in sponsoring me for Retatrutide, I recently reached below 90kg which is amazing!

So if you haven't read the other forum threads, I am in early recovery for alcohol addiction, the rehab I attended is owned by a current WBL Welterweight Champion (He's in his late 50s so I dont know if he's the champion of is age bracket or the whole division or maybe the WBL is just for old cunts but hey, an achievement none the less) in this rehab we attended boxing in the mornings and gym in the afternoon, this gave me the platform to getting active again.

Whilst in the rehab I was taking a gaggle of more than likely out of date PEDs, I took the last of them the morning before my flight to the Phillipines so when I get home, I have no PEDs which I want to be part of this journey under the guidance of the EVO Family, I also need to get bloods done to see where my health is and how fatty my liver is at the moment, I managed to get 18 months sobriety before and just before I busted my liver was back to healthy levels, I do not expect this now as I have only recently stopped drinking.

Whilst in the Phillipines and I have been attending 1 on 1 boxing classes and attending the gym twice a day, when I goto the gym I work out quick as can; I dont enjoy it (I wish I had the that spark again when I was in my 20s when I LOVED going to the gym, maybe in time this will return) so I rush through my sets to get out as quick as I can.

Obviously I like the result of going to said gym but just not the work, same for the boxing, the cardio side of it is painful but I have fallen in love with the technical side of it and I always enjoy going. The trainer I have here is amazing, he pushes me hard, punishes me for not completing things etc I wish I could pack him in my suitcase and bring him home.

I am the fittest and best looking I have been in 10 years which is an extremely strong motivator, I couldnt of achieved this without sobriety another strong motivator to stay sober, I took the Ozempic journey because I was overweight and I had read that it was being used for treating alcoholism but for me it didnt work (I am highly skeptical it works at all for addiction) Even if my body is rejecting alcohol I will still imbibe it, hence why people drink themselves to death. My hypothisis is that people who casually drink noticed consuming alcohol was harder to do just as eating is harder to do on Ozempic. In my personal experience being in and out of Alcoholics Anonymous and rehab 3 times, there is no magic pill to stop addiction. You have created new neural pathways in your brain that are constantly crying out for dopamine so if you dopamine rush is Gambling, Alcohol, Illicit Drugs, Sex, Food etc, then total abstinence for a certain amount of time is the only solution but I am not preaching and you are allowed to believe whatever you want.

I will be taking the Retatrutide from the 06/01/2025 (01/06/2025) when I arrive home in Australia and wanted to create a checklist

1) Start Retatrutide
2) Get bloods done (have asked others in the EVO Family where to get this done but I look at the websites and I cant see pricing, some help here would be great!)
3) Providing we all agree my health is able to do PEDs, Acquire PEDs. (Suggested Sellers please and suggested stack)
4) Keep reporting here on my progress relating to Retatrutide, Fitness and Gym.

I also need to add that my natural test levels and when I say natural as in my natural production before ever touching PEDs was bad, I have had bouts of erectile dysfunction since my early 20s, I was on TRT in my late 20's until my wife wanted to have a baby and had to cease them to conceive. So from my perspective my stacks will be a mixture of 'cruising' in the TRT snse and stacking in the building stage.

Let me know you thoughts and opinions on all of this and if I am wrong.

Special shout out to @HarleyGuy my AA Sponsor and @LevButlerov who has been a particular stick in the mud and making me come to evolutionary more and really taking this place more seriously.

Love to you all and the constant well wishes, advice and interest in my journey from the EVO Family!!

You should really get into your plans with the Retatrutide when you go on the podcast. That would be really good, and also definitely want to hear about your history. @3xCharm

Dreamer · Dec 29, 2025

Looking forward to your pod brother - will be following this log

ceo · Dec 29, 2025

3xCharm said:
Hello EVO Family, I am 3xCharm (formerly poopoobum)

@ZenithHealth was extremely generous in sponsoring me for Retatrutide, I recently reached below 90kg which is amazing!

So if you haven't read the other forum threads, I am in early recovery for alcohol addiction, the rehab I attended is owned by a current WBL Welterweight Champion (He's in his late 50s so I dont know if he's the champion of is age bracket or the whole division or maybe the WBL is just for old cunts but hey, an achievement none the less) in this rehab we attended boxing in the mornings and gym in the afternoon, this gave me the platform to getting active again.

Whilst in the rehab I was taking a gaggle of more than likely out of date PEDs, I took the last of them the morning before my flight to the Phillipines so when I get home, I have no PEDs which I want to be part of this journey under the guidance of the EVO Family, I also need to get bloods done to see where my health is and how fatty my liver is at the moment, I managed to get 18 months sobriety before and just before I busted my liver was back to healthy levels, I do not expect this now as I have only recently stopped drinking.

Whilst in the Phillipines and I have been attending 1 on 1 boxing classes and attending the gym twice a day, when I goto the gym I work out quick as can; I dont enjoy it (I wish I had the that spark again when I was in my 20s when I LOVED going to the gym, maybe in time this will return) so I rush through my sets to get out as quick as I can.

Obviously I like the result of going to said gym but just not the work, same for the boxing, the cardio side of it is painful but I have fallen in love with the technical side of it and I always enjoy going. The trainer I have here is amazing, he pushes me hard, punishes me for not completing things etc I wish I could pack him in my suitcase and bring him home.

I am the fittest and best looking I have been in 10 years which is an extremely strong motivator, I couldnt of achieved this without sobriety another strong motivator to stay sober, I took the Ozempic journey because I was overweight and I had read that it was being used for treating alcoholism but for me it didnt work (I am highly skeptical it works at all for addiction) Even if my body is rejecting alcohol I will still imbibe it, hence why people drink themselves to death. My hypothisis is that people who casually drink noticed consuming alcohol was harder to do just as eating is harder to do on Ozempic. In my personal experience being in and out of Alcoholics Anonymous and rehab 3 times, there is no magic pill to stop addiction. You have created new neural pathways in your brain that are constantly crying out for dopamine so if you dopamine rush is Gambling, Alcohol, Illicit Drugs, Sex, Food etc, then total abstinence for a certain amount of time is the only solution but I am not preaching and you are allowed to believe whatever you want.

I will be taking the Retatrutide from the 06/01/2025 (01/06/2025) when I arrive home in Australia and wanted to create a checklist

1) Start Retatrutide
2) Get bloods done (have asked others in the EVO Family where to get this done but I look at the websites and I cant see pricing, some help here would be great!)
3) Providing we all agree my health is able to do PEDs, Acquire PEDs. (Suggested Sellers please and suggested stack)
4) Keep reporting here on my progress relating to Retatrutide, Fitness and Gym.

I also need to add that my natural test levels and when I say natural as in my natural production before ever touching PEDs was bad, I have had bouts of erectile dysfunction since my early 20s, I was on TRT in my late 20's until my wife wanted to have a baby and had to cease them to conceive. So from my perspective my stacks will be a mixture of 'cruising' in the TRT snse and stacking in the building stage.

Let me know you thoughts and opinions on all of this and if I am wrong.

Special shout out to @HarleyGuy my AA Sponsor and @LevButlerov who has been a particular stick in the mud and making me come to evolutionary more and really taking this place more seriously.

Love to you all and the constant well wishes, advice and interest in my journey from the EVO Family!!

Bros, they say Retatrutide pretty good for addictions, so don't be skeptical. @3xCharm it works on your brain and it does other things. I'm curious to see what you think on it and hear more about you on the podcast.

3xCharm · Dec 29, 2025

ceo said:
Bros, they say Retatrutide pretty good for addictions, so don't be skeptical. @3xCharm it works on your brain and it does other things. I'm curious to see what you think on it and hear more about you on the podcast.

I pray it does work in that way but less for myself but for others, there is a lot of poor souls out there struggling, I am skeptical to this though as I mentioned in the actual science behind addiction and the drugs produced to treat it dont deal with the core problem, they are aids even the steps technically dont deal with the core problem.

Total abstinence and getting time up for your Hedonic system to relevel itself is a huge part as you have taught your dopamine receptors to be blasted with your poison/s of choice and the normal things you are meant to get dopamine for wont cut it anymore and then other hormones are released in the body creating being sick or uneasy, stressed, anxiety and what have you but through AA (and other steps based programs) and being around like minded individuals and having a fellowship and a sponsor you can get the time needed for this to happen.

Well see anyway, we will see what or how it helps as I am about to do an update on my sobriety blog/thread about today which I was stuggling, the more help the better but I just dont think they will ever be a magic pill or a silver bullet (that not a pun to unalive one's self)

2Thick · Dec 29, 2025

3xCharm said:
I pray it does work in that way but less for myself but for others, there is a lot of poor souls out there struggling, I am skeptical to this though as I mentioned in the actual science behind addiction and the drugs produced to treat it dont deal with the core problem, they are aids even the steps technically dont deal with the core problem.

Total abstinence and getting time up for your Hedonic system to relevel itself is a huge part as you have taught your dopamine receptors to be blasted with your poison/s of choice and the normal things you are meant to get dopamine for wont cut it anymore and then other hormones are released in the body creating being sick or uneasy, stressed, anxiety and what have you but through AA (and other steps based programs) and being around like minded individuals and having a fellowship and a sponsor you can get the time needed for this to happen.

Well see anyway, we will see what or how it helps as I am about to do an update on my sobriety blog/thread about today which I was stuggling, the more help the better but I just dont think they will ever be a magic pill or a silver bullet (that not a pun to unalive one's self)

@3xCharm definitely read up on it as much as you can. I would love to hear more about your theories on this on the podcast coming up. It's going to be really good to see some real-life experiences with addictions come to the forefront.

ROIDDERS · Dec 29, 2025

3xCharm said:
I pray it does work in that way but less for myself but for others, there is a lot of poor souls out there struggling, I am skeptical to this though as I mentioned in the actual science behind addiction and the drugs produced to treat it dont deal with the core problem, they are aids even the steps technically dont deal with the core problem.

Total abstinence and getting time up for your Hedonic system to relevel itself is a huge part as you have taught your dopamine receptors to be blasted with your poison/s of choice and the normal things you are meant to get dopamine for wont cut it anymore and then other hormones are released in the body creating being sick or uneasy, stressed, anxiety and what have you but through AA (and other steps based programs) and being around like minded individuals and having a fellowship and a sponsor you can get the time needed for this to happen.

Well see anyway, we will see what or how it helps as I am about to do an update on my sobriety blog/thread about today which I was stuggling, the more help the better but I just dont think they will ever be a magic pill or a silver bullet (that not a pun to unalive one's self)

Yeah, I don't think it's going to help your addictions in the way a lot of addicts think, but I think it can reduce the noise you get. I know with food addictions, it can definitely lower the food noise that people experience and the cravings. @3xCharm

waggat · Dec 29, 2025

3xCharm said:
Hello EVO Family, I am 3xCharm (formerly poopoobum)

@ZenithHealth was extremely generous in sponsoring me for Retatrutide, I recently reached below 90kg which is amazing!

So if you haven't read the other forum threads, I am in early recovery for alcohol addiction, the rehab I attended is owned by a current WBL Welterweight Champion (He's in his late 50s so I dont know if he's the champion of is age bracket or the whole division or maybe the WBL is just for old cunts but hey, an achievement none the less) in this rehab we attended boxing in the mornings and gym in the afternoon, this gave me the platform to getting active again.

Whilst in the rehab I was taking a gaggle of more than likely out of date PEDs, I took the last of them the morning before my flight to the Phillipines so when I get home, I have no PEDs which I want to be part of this journey under the guidance of the EVO Family, I also need to get bloods done to see where my health is and how fatty my liver is at the moment, I managed to get 18 months sobriety before and just before I busted my liver was back to healthy levels, I do not expect this now as I have only recently stopped drinking.

Whilst in the Phillipines and I have been attending 1 on 1 boxing classes and attending the gym twice a day, when I goto the gym I work out quick as can; I dont enjoy it (I wish I had the that spark again when I was in my 20s when I LOVED going to the gym, maybe in time this will return) so I rush through my sets to get out as quick as I can.

Obviously I like the result of going to said gym but just not the work, same for the boxing, the cardio side of it is painful but I have fallen in love with the technical side of it and I always enjoy going. The trainer I have here is amazing, he pushes me hard, punishes me for not completing things etc I wish I could pack him in my suitcase and bring him home.

I am the fittest and best looking I have been in 10 years which is an extremely strong motivator, I couldnt of achieved this without sobriety another strong motivator to stay sober, I took the Ozempic journey because I was overweight and I had read that it was being used for treating alcoholism but for me it didnt work (I am highly skeptical it works at all for addiction) Even if my body is rejecting alcohol I will still imbibe it, hence why people drink themselves to death. My hypothisis is that people who casually drink noticed consuming alcohol was harder to do just as eating is harder to do on Ozempic. In my personal experience being in and out of Alcoholics Anonymous and rehab 3 times, there is no magic pill to stop addiction. You have created new neural pathways in your brain that are constantly crying out for dopamine so if you dopamine rush is Gambling, Alcohol, Illicit Drugs, Sex, Food etc, then total abstinence for a certain amount of time is the only solution but I am not preaching and you are allowed to believe whatever you want.

I will be taking the Retatrutide from the 06/01/2025 (01/06/2025) when I arrive home in Australia and wanted to create a checklist

1) Start Retatrutide
2) Get bloods done (have asked others in the EVO Family where to get this done but I look at the websites and I cant see pricing, some help here would be great!)
3) Providing we all agree my health is able to do PEDs, Acquire PEDs. (Suggested Sellers please and suggested stack)
4) Keep reporting here on my progress relating to Retatrutide, Fitness and Gym.

I also need to add that my natural test levels and when I say natural as in my natural production before ever touching PEDs was bad, I have had bouts of erectile dysfunction since my early 20s, I was on TRT in my late 20's until my wife wanted to have a baby and had to cease them to conceive. So from my perspective my stacks will be a mixture of 'cruising' in the TRT snse and stacking in the building stage.

Let me know you thoughts and opinions on all of this and if I am wrong.

Special shout out to @HarleyGuy my AA Sponsor and @LevButlerov who has been a particular stick in the mud and making me come to evolutionary more and really taking this place more seriously.

Love to you all and the constant well wishes, advice and interest in my journey from the EVO Family!!

Looking forward to seeing your progress with the Reta mate. Based on what you have done so far I'm sure it will be good.

Regarding the enjoyment with the gym, I think you will get there once you start seeing muscle and strength gains.

As @Kopite67 mentioned, most Aussies prefer imedical for bloods since there is very thorough options available. Something like their 'Sports BB3' option is probably the way to go. When you don't need something as detailed you can go through Roidsafe as it is much cheaper.

For sources you can go to any of the approved Aussie suppliers here:

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/top-trusted-aussie-vendors-2025-q4.107247/

I would think you would just started with Test E / Sust 250 at TRT dose (~150mg/week).

3xCharm · Dec 29, 2025

waggat said:
Looking forward to seeing your progress with the Reta mate. Based on what you have done so far I'm sure it will be good.

Regarding the enjoyment with the gym, I think you will get there once you start seeing muscle and strength gains.

As @Kopite67 mentioned, most Aussies prefer imedical for bloods since there is very thorough options available. Something like their 'Sports BB3' option is probably the way to go. When you don't need something as detailed you can go through Roidsafe as it is much cheaper.

For sources you can go to any of the approved Aussie suppliers here:

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/top-trusted-aussie-vendors-2025-q4.107247/

I would think you would just started with Test E / Sust 250 at TRT dose (~150mg/week).

thanks for the link.

Yes we will have to work out my PEDs and diet which I will go into further detail when its time.

ceo · Dec 30, 2025

3xCharm said:
I pray it does work in that way but less for myself but for others, there is a lot of poor souls out there struggling, I am skeptical to this though as I mentioned in the actual science behind addiction and the drugs produced to treat it dont deal with the core problem, they are aids even the steps technically dont deal with the core problem.

Total abstinence and getting time up for your Hedonic system to relevel itself is a huge part as you have taught your dopamine receptors to be blasted with your poison/s of choice and the normal things you are meant to get dopamine for wont cut it anymore and then other hormones are released in the body creating being sick or uneasy, stressed, anxiety and what have you but through AA (and other steps based programs) and being around like minded individuals and having a fellowship and a sponsor you can get the time needed for this to happen.

Well see anyway, we will see what or how it helps as I am about to do an update on my sobriety blog/thread about today which I was stuggling, the more help the better but I just dont think they will ever be a magic pill or a silver bullet (that not a pun to unalive one's self)

Bros, seems like you did a lot of research on this through personal experience and looking it up. So I'm excited to see you on the podcast.

ballin2504 · Dec 30, 2025

3xCharm said:
Hello EVO Family, I am 3xCharm (formerly poopoobum)

@ZenithHealth was extremely generous in sponsoring me for Retatrutide, I recently reached below 90kg which is amazing!

So if you haven't read the other forum threads, I am in early recovery for alcohol addiction, the rehab I attended is owned by a current WBL Welterweight Champion (He's in his late 50s so I dont know if he's the champion of is age bracket or the whole division or maybe the WBL is just for old cunts but hey, an achievement none the less) in this rehab we attended boxing in the mornings and gym in the afternoon, this gave me the platform to getting active again.

Whilst in the rehab I was taking a gaggle of more than likely out of date PEDs, I took the last of them the morning before my flight to the Phillipines so when I get home, I have no PEDs which I want to be part of this journey under the guidance of the EVO Family, I also need to get bloods done to see where my health is and how fatty my liver is at the moment, I managed to get 18 months sobriety before and just before I busted my liver was back to healthy levels, I do not expect this now as I have only recently stopped drinking.

Whilst in the Phillipines and I have been attending 1 on 1 boxing classes and attending the gym twice a day, when I goto the gym I work out quick as can; I dont enjoy it (I wish I had the that spark again when I was in my 20s when I LOVED going to the gym, maybe in time this will return) so I rush through my sets to get out as quick as I can.

Obviously I like the result of going to said gym but just not the work, same for the boxing, the cardio side of it is painful but I have fallen in love with the technical side of it and I always enjoy going. The trainer I have here is amazing, he pushes me hard, punishes me for not completing things etc I wish I could pack him in my suitcase and bring him home.

I am the fittest and best looking I have been in 10 years which is an extremely strong motivator, I couldnt of achieved this without sobriety another strong motivator to stay sober, I took the Ozempic journey because I was overweight and I had read that it was being used for treating alcoholism but for me it didnt work (I am highly skeptical it works at all for addiction) Even if my body is rejecting alcohol I will still imbibe it, hence why people drink themselves to death. My hypothisis is that people who casually drink noticed consuming alcohol was harder to do just as eating is harder to do on Ozempic. In my personal experience being in and out of Alcoholics Anonymous and rehab 3 times, there is no magic pill to stop addiction. You have created new neural pathways in your brain that are constantly crying out for dopamine so if you dopamine rush is Gambling, Alcohol, Illicit Drugs, Sex, Food etc, then total abstinence for a certain amount of time is the only solution but I am not preaching and you are allowed to believe whatever you want.

I will be taking the Retatrutide from the 06/01/2025 (01/06/2025) when I arrive home in Australia and wanted to create a checklist

1) Start Retatrutide
2) Get bloods done (have asked others in the EVO Family where to get this done but I look at the websites and I cant see pricing, some help here would be great!)
3) Providing we all agree my health is able to do PEDs, Acquire PEDs. (Suggested Sellers please and suggested stack)
4) Keep reporting here on my progress relating to Retatrutide, Fitness and Gym.

I also need to add that my natural test levels and when I say natural as in my natural production before ever touching PEDs was bad, I have had bouts of erectile dysfunction since my early 20s, I was on TRT in my late 20's until my wife wanted to have a baby and had to cease them to conceive. So from my perspective my stacks will be a mixture of 'cruising' in the TRT snse and stacking in the building stage.

Let me know you thoughts and opinions on all of this and if I am wrong.

Special shout out to @HarleyGuy my AA Sponsor and @LevButlerov who has been a particular stick in the mud and making me come to evolutionary more and really taking this place more seriously.

Love to you all and the constant well wishes, advice and interest in my journey from the EVO Family!!

@3xCharm glad to see you put another log up. Glad to have you back.

kamsikazee · Dec 30, 2025

Hey bro! All the best with your journey, you got this

I did my bloods today, it was very easy. Order it on imedical, I got be BB3 which is what was recommended here. They email you the referral form and you just print it out and take to a collection centre.

3xCharm · Dec 30, 2025

kamsikazee said:
Hey bro! All the best with your journey, you got this

I did my bloods today, it was very easy. Order it on imedical, I got be BB3 which is what was recommended here. They email you the referral form and you just print it out and take to a collection centre.

How much was it? If you dont mind me asking?

RoySimpson · Dec 30, 2025

3xCharm said:
Hello EVO Family, I am 3xCharm (formerly poopoobum)

@ZenithHealth was extremely generous in sponsoring me for Retatrutide, I recently reached below 90kg which is amazing!

So if you haven't read the other forum threads, I am in early recovery for alcohol addiction, the rehab I attended is owned by a current WBL Welterweight Champion (He's in his late 50s so I dont know if he's the champion of is age bracket or the whole division or maybe the WBL is just for old cunts but hey, an achievement none the less) in this rehab we attended boxing in the mornings and gym in the afternoon, this gave me the platform to getting active again.

Whilst in the rehab I was taking a gaggle of more than likely out of date PEDs, I took the last of them the morning before my flight to the Phillipines so when I get home, I have no PEDs which I want to be part of this journey under the guidance of the EVO Family, I also need to get bloods done to see where my health is and how fatty my liver is at the moment, I managed to get 18 months sobriety before and just before I busted my liver was back to healthy levels, I do not expect this now as I have only recently stopped drinking.

Whilst in the Phillipines and I have been attending 1 on 1 boxing classes and attending the gym twice a day, when I goto the gym I work out quick as can; I dont enjoy it (I wish I had the that spark again when I was in my 20s when I LOVED going to the gym, maybe in time this will return) so I rush through my sets to get out as quick as I can.

Obviously I like the result of going to said gym but just not the work, same for the boxing, the cardio side of it is painful but I have fallen in love with the technical side of it and I always enjoy going. The trainer I have here is amazing, he pushes me hard, punishes me for not completing things etc I wish I could pack him in my suitcase and bring him home.

I am the fittest and best looking I have been in 10 years which is an extremely strong motivator, I couldnt of achieved this without sobriety another strong motivator to stay sober, I took the Ozempic journey because I was overweight and I had read that it was being used for treating alcoholism but for me it didnt work (I am highly skeptical it works at all for addiction) Even if my body is rejecting alcohol I will still imbibe it, hence why people drink themselves to death. My hypothisis is that people who casually drink noticed consuming alcohol was harder to do just as eating is harder to do on Ozempic. In my personal experience being in and out of Alcoholics Anonymous and rehab 3 times, there is no magic pill to stop addiction. You have created new neural pathways in your brain that are constantly crying out for dopamine so if you dopamine rush is Gambling, Alcohol, Illicit Drugs, Sex, Food etc, then total abstinence for a certain amount of time is the only solution but I am not preaching and you are allowed to believe whatever you want.

I will be taking the Retatrutide from the 06/01/2025 (01/06/2025) when I arrive home in Australia and wanted to create a checklist

1) Start Retatrutide
2) Get bloods done (have asked others in the EVO Family where to get this done but I look at the websites and I cant see pricing, some help here would be great!)
3) Providing we all agree my health is able to do PEDs, Acquire PEDs. (Suggested Sellers please and suggested stack)
4) Keep reporting here on my progress relating to Retatrutide, Fitness and Gym.

I also need to add that my natural test levels and when I say natural as in my natural production before ever touching PEDs was bad, I have had bouts of erectile dysfunction since my early 20s, I was on TRT in my late 20's until my wife wanted to have a baby and had to cease them to conceive. So from my perspective my stacks will be a mixture of 'cruising' in the TRT snse and stacking in the building stage.

Let me know you thoughts and opinions on all of this and if I am wrong.

Special shout out to @HarleyGuy my AA Sponsor and @LevButlerov who has been a particular stick in the mud and making me come to evolutionary more and really taking this place more seriously.

Love to you all and the constant well wishes, advice and interest in my journey from the EVO Family!!

@3xCharm Will be dope to follow this log!

kamsikazee · Dec 31, 2025

3xCharm said:
How much was it? If you dont mind me asking?

$173

Cg20 · Dec 31, 2025

3xCharm said:
Hello EVO Family, I am 3xCharm (formerly poopoobum)

@ZenithHealth was extremely generous in sponsoring me for Retatrutide, I recently reached below 90kg which is amazing!

So if you haven't read the other forum threads, I am in early recovery for alcohol addiction, the rehab I attended is owned by a current WBL Welterweight Champion (He's in his late 50s so I dont know if he's the champion of is age bracket or the whole division or maybe the WBL is just for old cunts but hey, an achievement none the less) in this rehab we attended boxing in the mornings and gym in the afternoon, this gave me the platform to getting active again.

Whilst in the rehab I was taking a gaggle of more than likely out of date PEDs, I took the last of them the morning before my flight to the Phillipines so when I get home, I have no PEDs which I want to be part of this journey under the guidance of the EVO Family, I also need to get bloods done to see where my health is and how fatty my liver is at the moment, I managed to get 18 months sobriety before and just before I busted my liver was back to healthy levels, I do not expect this now as I have only recently stopped drinking.

Whilst in the Phillipines and I have been attending 1 on 1 boxing classes and attending the gym twice a day, when I goto the gym I work out quick as can; I dont enjoy it (I wish I had the that spark again when I was in my 20s when I LOVED going to the gym, maybe in time this will return) so I rush through my sets to get out as quick as I can.

Obviously I like the result of going to said gym but just not the work, same for the boxing, the cardio side of it is painful but I have fallen in love with the technical side of it and I always enjoy going. The trainer I have here is amazing, he pushes me hard, punishes me for not completing things etc I wish I could pack him in my suitcase and bring him home.

I am the fittest and best looking I have been in 10 years which is an extremely strong motivator, I couldnt of achieved this without sobriety another strong motivator to stay sober, I took the Ozempic journey because I was overweight and I had read that it was being used for treating alcoholism but for me it didnt work (I am highly skeptical it works at all for addiction) Even if my body is rejecting alcohol I will still imbibe it, hence why people drink themselves to death. My hypothisis is that people who casually drink noticed consuming alcohol was harder to do just as eating is harder to do on Ozempic. In my personal experience being in and out of Alcoholics Anonymous and rehab 3 times, there is no magic pill to stop addiction. You have created new neural pathways in your brain that are constantly crying out for dopamine so if you dopamine rush is Gambling, Alcohol, Illicit Drugs, Sex, Food etc, then total abstinence for a certain amount of time is the only solution but I am not preaching and you are allowed to believe whatever you want.

I will be taking the Retatrutide from the 06/01/2025 (01/06/2025) when I arrive home in Australia and wanted to create a checklist

1) Start Retatrutide
2) Get bloods done (have asked others in the EVO Family where to get this done but I look at the websites and I cant see pricing, some help here would be great!)
3) Providing we all agree my health is able to do PEDs, Acquire PEDs. (Suggested Sellers please and suggested stack)
4) Keep reporting here on my progress relating to Retatrutide, Fitness and Gym.

I also need to add that my natural test levels and when I say natural as in my natural production before ever touching PEDs was bad, I have had bouts of erectile dysfunction since my early 20s, I was on TRT in my late 20's until my wife wanted to have a baby and had to cease them to conceive. So from my perspective my stacks will be a mixture of 'cruising' in the TRT snse and stacking in the building stage.

Let me know you thoughts and opinions on all of this and if I am wrong.

Special shout out to @HarleyGuy my AA Sponsor and @LevButlerov who has been a particular stick in the mud and making me come to evolutionary more and really taking this place more seriously.

Love to you all and the constant well wishes, advice and interest in my journey from the EVO Family!!

If you want brother I can take a look over your bloodwork when you get it back and give you some things to fix up.

I would also strongly suggest taking a major look at my diet, fixing it accordingly, using what otc supps I can to support health and trt would also be a good option for yourself.

I understand if you don’t know what you’re doing it would be hard to grasp all of that so feel free to ask for help and I’ll be happy to provide.

3xCharm · Dec 31, 2025

Cg20 said:
If you want brother I can take a look over your bloodwork when you get it back and give you some things to fix up.

I would also strongly suggest taking a major look at my diet, fixing it accordingly, using what otc supps I can to support health and trt would also be a good option for yourself.

I understand if you don’t know what you’re doing it would be hard to grasp all of that so feel free to ask for help and I’ll be happy to provide.

Thanks very much, I will posting my blood work in the thread, I am down another 700 or so grams, according to the Heart Foundation of Australia a 6', 38 year old male should way 85kg so I would like to be able to say "I made it to a healthy BMI" as I am on holiday at the moment I have ate nothing but crap the whole time and drank a shit ton of Red Bull and Fruit Juices but due to going to the gym twice a day and now I am boxing twice a day I am still losing weight (I also took an extra large shot of Ozempic before I left so I eat 1-2 times a day)

After that I plan on putting on some decent size and get ready for next summer (Warmer months in Melbourne is Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar) so diet will definitely be coming in to it. I will be posting my food plan as well but to get to the point; I will require advisement for Stacks, Diet and my Bloods.

Once I release my bloods please either DM me or post your opinion on here. Thanks for your support!

Cg20 · Dec 31, 2025

3xCharm said:
Thanks very much, I will posting my blood work in the thread, I am down another 700 or so grams, according to the Heart Foundation of Australia a 6', 38 year old male should way 85kg so I would like to be able to say "I made it to a healthy BMI" as I am on holiday at the moment I have ate nothing but crap the whole time and drank a shit ton of Red Bull and Fruit Juices but due to going to the gym twice a day and now I am boxing twice a day I am still losing weight (I also took an extra large shot of Ozempic before I left so I eat 1-2 times a day)

After that I plan on putting on some decent size and get ready for next summer (Warmer months in Melbourne is Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar) so diet will definitely be coming in to it. I will be posting my food plan as well but to get to the point; I will require advisement for Stacks, Diet and my Bloods.

Once I release my bloods please either DM me or post your opinion on here. Thanks for your support!

That’s alright man, I’m a coach, there’s also a few other great coaches on evo, I would really just focus on learning how to properly diet, how to properly train and then change whatever you need to to get your bloods looking as good as you physically can

@Gains Man
@mediumtom
@Coachrap

3xCharm · Dec 31, 2025

Cg20 said:
That’s alright man, I’m a coach, there’s also a few other great coaches on evo, I would really just focus on learning how to properly diet, how to properly train and then change whatever you need to to get your bloods looking as good as you physically can

@Gains Man
@mediumtom
@Coachrap

I want my bloods done for a benchmark, I just pumped myself full of PEDs quoting bro science and chatgpt, I also want to know how bad my liver is due to the drinking and go from there.

No matter what I 'naturally' have low test and have been on TRT before from a specialist so ultimately I cant see myself ever not cruising, I notice off the test I go through Menopause type symptoms, hot extremities and such and when I do take test again they go away, I have have had my kids so sperm count isnt an issue and my ED mostly goes away on test.

So with the help of people like yourself and the EVO Family I feel pretty confident.

Cg20 · Dec 31, 2025

3xCharm said:
I want my bloods done for a benchmark, I just pumped myself full of PEDs quoting bro science and chatgpt, I also want to know how bad my liver is due to the drinking and go from there.

No matter what I 'naturally' have low test and have been on TRT before from a specialist so ultimately I cant see myself ever not cruising, I notice off the test I go through Menopause type symptoms, hot extremities and such and when I do take test again they go away, I have have had my kids so sperm count isnt an issue and my ED mostly goes away on test.

So with the help of people like yourself and the EVO Family I feel pretty confident.

You’re on the right path man, when you get the bloods back give me a read over them and I’ll be happy to help

LevButlerov · Dec 31, 2025

3xCharm said:
I want my bloods done for a benchmark, I just pumped myself full of PEDs quoting bro science and chatgpt, I also want to know how bad my liver is due to the drinking and go from there.

No matter what I 'naturally' have low test and have been on TRT before from a specialist so ultimately I cant see myself ever not cruising, I notice off the test I go through Menopause type symptoms, hot extremities and such and when I do take test again they go away, I have have had my kids so sperm count isnt an issue and my ED mostly goes away on test.

So with the help of people like yourself and the EVO Family I feel pretty confident.

yes please get blood work done asap

@3xCharm this will be our 1st step

HarleyGuy · Jan 2, 2026

3xCharm said:
I want my bloods done for a benchmark, I just pumped myself full of PEDs quoting bro science and chatgpt, I also want to know how bad my liver is due to the drinking and go from there.

No matter what I 'naturally' have low test and have been on TRT before from a specialist so ultimately I cant see myself ever not cruising, I notice off the test I go through Menopause type symptoms, hot extremities and such and when I do take test again they go away, I have have had my kids so sperm count isnt an issue and my ED mostly goes away on test.

So with the help of people like yourself and the EVO Family I feel pretty confident.

Looking forward to seeing that bloodwork brother. I bet your markers won't be as bad as you think.

Good luck on the podcast today!

HarleyGuy · Jan 5, 2026

@3xCharm Tell the EVO world about your recent weight loss and hitting the gym and boxing hard! Super proud of you brother!

LevButlerov · Jan 5, 2026

HarleyGuy said:
@3xCharm Tell the EVO world about your recent weight loss and hitting the gym and boxing hard! Super proud of you brother!

waiting on update

@3xCharm

3xCharm · Jan 6, 2026

Wow I am getting a kick up the arse on all fronts!!!

Hello EVO Family!!

Here is a snippet from my 'Sobriety Journal: An Alcoholic's Journey'

'Yesterday I bailed out of my morning boxing session and came to the afternoon one and my trainer said "You can't focus and your punches are physically weak" to which I explained to him what I have been doing "0600 Gym, 1000 Boxing, 1700 Boxing, 2100 Gym, sleeping roughly 4.5 hours maybe a nap for 1.5 hours and eating one meal a day" and he said "you have clearly burnt yourself out" which I cannot argue with, I have burnt myself out!'

Retatrutide starts 30/01 (01/30) which coincides with day 30 of sobriety (maybe there is meaning behind that?) and discussing with @HarleyGuy I plan on crusing on Test and starting the big TrenBologna sandwich (Tren) and then incorporating a proper diet for size.

As previously mentioned I still want to get to 85kg (187.39lbs) just to say I did it and then put on mass from there.

My current method of working out is 6 days a week and trying to add 2.5kg to every work out or at least every week (i.e. last week you benched 55kg this week you will bench 57.5kg) which is easier on some muscle groups vs others but still try to stick to it.

I am currently 88.3kg (194.66lbs) I would like to add that when I was a gym rat in my early 20s I never did legs and this time around I am so my legs are extremely underdeveloped but I am making gains in strengh and some shape and I have added in one armed lateral pull down for my left lat to combat the lop sidedness

Thanks to everyone for your support and as always; Live long and Prosper!

HarleyGuy · Jan 6, 2026

3xCharm said:
Wow I am getting a kick up the arse on all fronts!!!

Hello EVO Family!!

Here is a snippet from my 'Sobriety Journal: An Alcoholic's Journey'

'Yesterday I bailed out of my morning boxing session and came to the afternoon one and my trainer said "You can't focus and your punches are physically weak" to which I explained to him what I have been doing "0600 Gym, 1000 Boxing, 1700 Boxing, 2100 Gym, sleeping roughly 4.5 hours maybe a nap for 1.5 hours and eating one meal a day" and he said "you have clearly burnt yourself out" which I cannot argue with, I have burnt myself out!'

Retatrutide starts 30/01 (01/30) which coincides with day 30 of sobriety (maybe there is meaning behind that?) and discussing with @HarleyGuy I plan on crusing on Test and starting the big TrenBologna sandwich (Tren) and then incorporating a proper diet for size.

As previously mentioned I still want to get to 85kg (187.39lbs) just to say I did it and then put on mass from there.

My current method of working out is 6 days a week and trying to add 2.5kg to every work out or at least every week (i.e. last week you benched 55kg this week you will bench 57.5kg) which is easier on some muscle groups vs others but still try to stick to it.

I am currently 88.3kg (194.66lbs) I would like to add that when I was a gym rat in my early 20s I never did legs and this time around I am so my legs are extremely underdeveloped but I am making gains in strengh and some shape and I have added in one armed lateral pull down for my left lat to combat the lop sidedness

Thanks to everyone for your support and as always; Live long and Prosper!

Bro! You look better in those pics than the ones you sent me privately! Fantastic transformation happening for you here bro!

I will explain more in your Recovery Journal why it might be that you're keeping so busy and burning yourself out, which is 'avoidance'.

You need a complete deload of at least two days off of sleep and hydration. Let's not treat your transformation the way we drink (all or nothing). Like I always say this is a marathon not a spring so take a couple days off to deload and rest and I'll be with you on text/messenger to help you through how busy you're keeping and the inevitable crash those two days will feel like.

Having said that, great fackin work bro this is next level hitting it hard!

As usual I'm gonna pester you to put up some of your diet onoce you've figured out where your macros will come from based on the macro breakdown we decided on for your goals.

And as for the tren, be sure and keep it low like we talked about and post it here first to get feeedback before dosing anything.

Keep up the amazing work you you're looking much leaner and your back looks intimidating and thick bro!

EvoNexus · Jan 6, 2026

LevButlerov said:
Happy to see you getting into Retatrutide it's good for addiction and recomp body changes, so perfect for you! @3xCharm
and thank you to @HarleyGuy for supporting you doing this hard time.
EVO family support and love your way!

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy

Solid advice from @LevButlerov as always. @3xCharm mad respect for the sobriety + getting back into boxing/gym man, that’s the real win here. keep it simple and get those bloods done when you’re back home (esp liver markers), track BP/sleep/appetite, and just keep updating the log — the consistency is gonna carry u

LevButlerov · Jan 6, 2026

3xCharm said:
Wow I am getting a kick up the arse on all fronts!!!

Hello EVO Family!!

Here is a snippet from my 'Sobriety Journal: An Alcoholic's Journey'

'Yesterday I bailed out of my morning boxing session and came to the afternoon one and my trainer said "You can't focus and your punches are physically weak" to which I explained to him what I have been doing "0600 Gym, 1000 Boxing, 1700 Boxing, 2100 Gym, sleeping roughly 4.5 hours maybe a nap for 1.5 hours and eating one meal a day" and he said "you have clearly burnt yourself out" which I cannot argue with, I have burnt myself out!'

Retatrutide starts 30/01 (01/30) which coincides with day 30 of sobriety (maybe there is meaning behind that?) and discussing with @HarleyGuy I plan on crusing on Test and starting the big TrenBologna sandwich (Tren) and then incorporating a proper diet for size.

As previously mentioned I still want to get to 85kg (187.39lbs) just to say I did it and then put on mass from there.

My current method of working out is 6 days a week and trying to add 2.5kg to every work out or at least every week (i.e. last week you benched 55kg this week you will bench 57.5kg) which is easier on some muscle groups vs others but still try to stick to it.

I am currently 88.3kg (194.66lbs) I would like to add that when I was a gym rat in my early 20s I never did legs and this time around I am so my legs are extremely underdeveloped but I am making gains in strengh and some shape and I have added in one armed lateral pull down for my left lat to combat the lop sidedness

Thanks to everyone for your support and as always; Live long and Prosper!

You are leaning out nicely

@3xCharm really good volume on training too but you might be ovetraining a bit and low sleep.
On the cycle, if you can do test only to start before any tren tbh better pic
looking at your pics, leaner and bigger I love it!

@BeMe @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
@Coolguy @toddthelineman @Sheshredz

Dreamer · Jan 6, 2026

3xCharm said:
Wow I am getting a kick up the arse on all fronts!!!

Hello EVO Family!!

Here is a snippet from my 'Sobriety Journal: An Alcoholic's Journey'

'Yesterday I bailed out of my morning boxing session and came to the afternoon one and my trainer said "You can't focus and your punches are physically weak" to which I explained to him what I have been doing "0600 Gym, 1000 Boxing, 1700 Boxing, 2100 Gym, sleeping roughly 4.5 hours maybe a nap for 1.5 hours and eating one meal a day" and he said "you have clearly burnt yourself out" which I cannot argue with, I have burnt myself out!'

Retatrutide starts 30/01 (01/30) which coincides with day 30 of sobriety (maybe there is meaning behind that?) and discussing with @HarleyGuy I plan on crusing on Test and starting the big TrenBologna sandwich (Tren) and then incorporating a proper diet for size.

As previously mentioned I still want to get to 85kg (187.39lbs) just to say I did it and then put on mass from there.

My current method of working out is 6 days a week and trying to add 2.5kg to every work out or at least every week (i.e. last week you benched 55kg this week you will bench 57.5kg) which is easier on some muscle groups vs others but still try to stick to it.

I am currently 88.3kg (194.66lbs) I would like to add that when I was a gym rat in my early 20s I never did legs and this time around I am so my legs are extremely underdeveloped but I am making gains in strengh and some shape and I have added in one armed lateral pull down for my left lat to combat the lop sidedness

Thanks to everyone for your support and as always; Live long and Prosper!

Can see the progress for sure man, leaning out nicely

3xCharm · Jan 6, 2026

LevButlerov said:
You are leaning out nicely @3xCharm really good volume on training too but you might be ovetraining a bit and low sleep.
On the cycle, if you can do test only to start before any tren tbh better pic
looking at your pics, leaner and bigger I love it!

@BeMe @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
@Coolguy @toddthelineman @Sheshredz

Definitely over training but its what has kept me going whilst overseas, things will be normalised when I get back, I need to post my diet and workouts shortly which I know is going to raise a few eyebrows but I have my reasons and I dont think I will change it up much, more coming soon... Thanks for caring!!

LevButlerov · Jan 6, 2026

3xCharm said:
Definitely over training but its what has kept me going whilst overseas, things will be normalised when I get back, I need to post my diet and workouts shortly which I know is going to raise a few eyebrows but I have my reasons and I dont think I will change it up much, more coming soon... Thanks for caring!!

once you're back we can track it right and train within reason

I understand you @3xCharm

3xCharm · Jan 6, 2026

I want to order my bloods, Suggestions thanks folks?

LevButlerov · Jan 6, 2026

3xCharm said:
I want to order my bloods, Suggestions thanks folks?

sports bb3 best one

Gains Man · Jan 6, 2026

Cg20 said:
That’s alright man, I’m a coach, there’s also a few other great coaches on evo, I would really just focus on learning how to properly diet, how to properly train and then change whatever you need to to get your bloods looking as good as you physically can

@Gains Man
@mediumtom
@Coachrap

Thanks for tagging me brother ❤

Allupfromhere · Jan 6, 2026

3xCharm said:
Wow I am getting a kick up the arse on all fronts!!!

Hello EVO Family!!

Here is a snippet from my 'Sobriety Journal: An Alcoholic's Journey'

'Yesterday I bailed out of my morning boxing session and came to the afternoon one and my trainer said "You can't focus and your punches are physically weak" to which I explained to him what I have been doing "0600 Gym, 1000 Boxing, 1700 Boxing, 2100 Gym, sleeping roughly 4.5 hours maybe a nap for 1.5 hours and eating one meal a day" and he said "you have clearly burnt yourself out" which I cannot argue with, I have burnt myself out!'

Retatrutide starts 30/01 (01/30) which coincides with day 30 of sobriety (maybe there is meaning behind that?) and discussing with @HarleyGuy I plan on crusing on Test and starting the big TrenBologna sandwich (Tren) and then incorporating a proper diet for size.

As previously mentioned I still want to get to 85kg (187.39lbs) just to say I did it and then put on mass from there.

My current method of working out is 6 days a week and trying to add 2.5kg to every work out or at least every week (i.e. last week you benched 55kg this week you will bench 57.5kg) which is easier on some muscle groups vs others but still try to stick to it.

I am currently 88.3kg (194.66lbs) I would like to add that when I was a gym rat in my early 20s I never did legs and this time around I am so my legs are extremely underdeveloped but I am making gains in strengh and some shape and I have added in one armed lateral pull down for my left lat to combat the lop sidedness

Thanks to everyone for your support and as always; Live long and Prosper!

Haha the kick up the bum is coz we are all here for you brother supporting you the whole way

waggat · Jan 8, 2026

3xCharm said:
Wow I am getting a kick up the arse on all fronts!!!

Hello EVO Family!!

Here is a snippet from my 'Sobriety Journal: An Alcoholic's Journey'

'Yesterday I bailed out of my morning boxing session and came to the afternoon one and my trainer said "You can't focus and your punches are physically weak" to which I explained to him what I have been doing "0600 Gym, 1000 Boxing, 1700 Boxing, 2100 Gym, sleeping roughly 4.5 hours maybe a nap for 1.5 hours and eating one meal a day" and he said "you have clearly burnt yourself out" which I cannot argue with, I have burnt myself out!'

Retatrutide starts 30/01 (01/30) which coincides with day 30 of sobriety (maybe there is meaning behind that?) and discussing with @HarleyGuy I plan on crusing on Test and starting the big TrenBologna sandwich (Tren) and then incorporating a proper diet for size.

As previously mentioned I still want to get to 85kg (187.39lbs) just to say I did it and then put on mass from there.

My current method of working out is 6 days a week and trying to add 2.5kg to every work out or at least every week (i.e. last week you benched 55kg this week you will bench 57.5kg) which is easier on some muscle groups vs others but still try to stick to it.

I am currently 88.3kg (194.66lbs) I would like to add that when I was a gym rat in my early 20s I never did legs and this time around I am so my legs are extremely underdeveloped but I am making gains in strengh and some shape and I have added in one armed lateral pull down for my left lat to combat the lop sidedness

Thanks to everyone for your support and as always; Live long and Prosper!

Looking good mate. You'll get to 85kg easily. I think you won't have to worry about only adding mass once you get there. If you have trained much then you can lose fat and gain muscle at the same time.

If you never trained legs in the past then you will get some good gains there.

3xCharm · Jan 9, 2026

Hey EVO Fam.

I have my BAC so I am going to start Reta tonight, I also have ordered the bloods so I will get up tomorrow morning and get that done, I havnt been to the gym or boxing since Wednesday due to traveling home and my first day back at work today.

Firing up on the gym again tomorrow morning and starting Mauy Thai and Boxing Technique classes on Mon/Tue/Wed and Friday nights. I wouldve never achieved any of this with out being sober and losing weight via Sema so the Reta journey will be interesting!!

Kopite67 · Jan 9, 2026

3xCharm said:
Hey EVO Fam.

I have my BAC so I am going to start Reta tonight, I also have ordered the bloods so I will get up tomorrow morning and get that done, I havnt been to the gym or boxing since Wednesday due to traveling home and my first day back at work today.

Firing up on the gym again tomorrow morning and starting Mauy Thai and Boxing Technique classes on Mon/Tue/Wed and Friday nights. I wouldve never achieved any of this with out being sober and losing weight via Sema so the Reta journey will be interesting!!

Fabulous achievements so far brother. The Ret is a game changer for so many of the Evo Fam, including myself, so hopefully your Ret journey will be just as awesome. Look forward to seeing what your bloods show. Great updates and logging.

HarleyGuy · Jan 9, 2026

3xCharm said:
I want to order my bloods, Suggestions thanks folks?

Definitely BB3

HarleyGuy · Jan 9, 2026

3xCharm said:
Hey EVO Fam.

I have my BAC so I am going to start Reta tonight, I also have ordered the bloods so I will get up tomorrow morning and get that done, I havnt been to the gym or boxing since Wednesday due to traveling home and my first day back at work today.

Firing up on the gym again tomorrow morning and starting Mauy Thai and Boxing Technique classes on Mon/Tue/Wed and Friday nights. I wouldve never achieved any of this with out being sober and losing weight via Sema so the Reta journey will be interesting!!

Kick some ass in the dojo brother! Sweat those toxins out.

You will love Reta, plan to be on it for minimum 24 weeks please. 48 is best. Because we addicts have high tolerance for everything you can start at 1mg/week and go from there. Don't expect the same appetite suppression as you had from the Sema (at first).

3xCharm · Jan 9, 2026

I shouldnt of done this so late but I have; I added 3.5ml of BAC (hope my counting is correct so I took a 100unit needle filled it with BAC and filled the vial 3.5 times?)

So I am going to put 10 units in my stomach area, somebody please let me know (looking at you @ZenithHealth) if this dose is too high, too little etc please

HarleyGuy · Jan 9, 2026

3xCharm said:
I shouldnt of done this so late but I have; I added 3.5ml of BAC (hope my counting is correct so I took a 100unit needle filled it with BAC and filled the vial 3.5 times?)

So I am going to put 10 units in my stomach area, somebody please let me know (looking at you @ZenithHealth) if this dose is too high, too little etc please

Bruh... you shoulda asked me first LOL.
We have a megathread on it here that @LevButlerov and I started in October: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/how-to-mix-peptides.107113/

First we need to know how many mg of Reta is in each vial for this batch you have. And yes if you filled it 3.5 times it has 3.5ml or 350iu in it.

In order to get 1mg of reta per 10iu your vial have to have been 35mg of Reta (this is definitely not the case so disregard this)
Assuming your vial had the standard 10mg of Reta in it then you've reconstituted it such that you'll now need 35iu in your slin pin to equal 1mg. Dosing in 5's on a slin pin is annoying to say the least.
If your vial only contained 10mg of Reta in it now 10iu will only be about 286mcg
This leads me to believe you want to microdose ED because at 10iu ED it will give you 2mg/week.

Assuming your vial had 10mg of Reta in it here is your dosing chart:

10iu = 286mcg (and ED microdosing equals 2mg/week)
35iu = 1mg
70iu = 2mg

Hopefully your plan was to do ED microdosing because otherwise you're stuck now dosing your slin pin in 5's if you wanted to start at 1mg/week. Haha sucka!

ZenithHealth · Jan 9, 2026

HarleyGuy said:
Bruh... you shoulda asked me first LOL.
We have a megathread on it here that @LevButlerov and I started in October: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/how-to-mix-peptides.107113/

First we need to know how many mg of Reta is in each vial for this batch you have. And yes if you filled it 3.5 times it has 3.5ml or 350iu in it.

In order to get 1mg of reta per 10iu your vial have to have been 35mg of Reta (this is definitely not the case so disregard this)

Assuming your vial had the standard 10mg of Reta in it then you've reconstituted it such that you'll now need 35iu in your slin pin to equal 1mg. Dosing in 5's on a slin pin is annoying to say the least.

If your vial only contained 10mg of Reta in it now 10iu will only be about 286mcg

This leads me to believe you want to microdose ED because at 10iu ED it will give you 2mg/week.

Assuming your vial had 10mg of Reta in it here is your dosing chart:

10iu = 286mcg (and ED microdosing equals 2mg/week)

35iu = 1mg

70iu = 2mg

Hopefully your plan was to do ED microdosing because otherwise you're stuck now dosing your slin pin in 5's if you wanted to start at 1mg/week. Haha sucka!

Great reply here, but the vial I sent through is 20mg, so you'd double @HarleyGuy 's calculations

3.5ml = 20mg
350IU = 20mg
10IU = 0.57mg of Retatrutide.

So if you do it everyday that would be 0.57 * 7 = 4mg per week

Which honestly for your tolerance of Semaglutide should be fine. Since you are injecting everyday if it does become too much then you can lower the dose on subsequent days

Note: for people that have never touched glp-1s before I recommend a starting dose of 2mg/week

3xCharm · Jan 9, 2026

ZenithHealth said:
Great reply here, but the vial I sent through is 20mg, so you'd double @HarleyGuy 's calculations

3.5ml = 20mg
350IU = 20mg
10IU = 0.57mg of Retatrutide.

So if you do it everyday that would be 0.57 * 7 = 4mg per week

Which honestly for your tolerance of Semaglutide should be fine. Since you are injecting everyday if it does become too much then you can lower the dose on subsequent days

Note: for people that have never touched glp-1s before I recommend a starting dose of 2mg/week

So stick to my 10 units?

ZenithHealth · Jan 9, 2026

3xCharm said:
So stick to my 10 units?

If you are doing daily injections then yes; 10 units everyday. If the feeling is too strong then reduce, you should start to feel an effect around day 4.

The peptide needs time to fully saturate and build up in your bloodstream. If you want to get the effect quicker you can do 40IU today and not take a dose for a few days, you should get quite an immediate effect.

3xCharm · Jan 10, 2026

Hey Evo Fam,

Had a pretty shitty start to getting back on the horse (the fitness horse not falling off the wagon of drinking

) I have brought something back with me from PH (not AIDS) I had a little bit of sore throat on the flight home, get a little bit worse yesterday at work and really woke up this morning with a throat full of gunk and generally low energy.

I dont feel too bad now so heres hoping I can get up tomorrow and do what I need to. By getting up late I missed my blood test too but they are open again tomorrow morning (Sunday) so I will hopefully go after the Gym tomorrow morning and if I am still ill I will just go and get the blood test anyway.

I have had 2 shots of Reta @ 10 units which I am told is "if you do it everyday that would be 0.57 * 7 = 4mg per week" so 0.57mg x 2? I am taking it slow as I overdosed Sema (overdosed my wife too) not long ago the the side effects were quite uncomfortable which I will do a tiny update on the Sema blog.

Monday night I am (hopefully) starting Boxing as per mentioned, Schedule consists of;
Monday - 2000 - Muay Thai
Tuesday - 1900 - Boxing Technique
Wednesday - 2000 - Muay Thai
Thursday - 1900 Boxing Technique
Friday - 1800 - Boxing Technique

It will be interesting to start the Muay Thai but I will be surprised if I progress as well as I did whilst in PH with the 1 on 1 Lessons with Traditional Boxing (I miss my Coach and lessons)

I am pretty to keen to get in to my diet, TRT and Tren but thats all dependent on my bloods.

ZenithHealth · Jan 10, 2026

3xCharm said:
Hey Evo Fam,

Had a pretty shitty start to getting back on the horse (the fitness horse not falling off the wagon of drinking) I have brought something back with me from PH (not AIDS) I had a little bit of sore throat on the flight home, get a little bit worse yesterday at work and really woke up this morning with a throat full of gunk and generally low energy.

I dont feel too bad now so heres hoping I can get up tomorrow and do what I need to. By getting up late I missed my blood test too but they are open again tomorrow morning (Sunday) so I will hopefully go after the Gym tomorrow morning and if I am still ill I will just go and get the blood test anyway.

I have had 2 shots of Reta @ 10 units which I am told is "if you do it everyday that would be 0.57 * 7 = 4mg per week" so 0.57mg x 2? I am taking it slow as I overdosed Sema (overdosed my wife too) not long ago the the side effects were quite uncomfortable which I will do a tiny update on the Sema blog.

Monday night I am (hopefully) starting Boxing as per mentioned, Schedule consists of;
Monday - 2000 - Muay Thai
Tuesday - 1900 - Boxing Technique
Wednesday - 2000 - Muay Thai
Thursday - 1900 Boxing Technique
Friday - 1800 - Boxing Technique

It will be interesting to start the Muay Thai but I will be surprised if I progress as well as I did whilst in PH with the 1 on 1 Lessons with Traditional Boxing (I miss my Coach and lessons)

I am pretty to keen to get in to my diet, TRT and Tren but thats all dependent on my bloods.

Sorry to hear you are under the weather brother, definitely don't push yourself too hard that you crash.

As I've always said, its a marathon not a sprint. Make sure you take care of yourself and listen to your body.

Let us know how you feel on the Reta, I've done too much Semaglutide and yeah...its not fun, gl brother keep us updated!

3xCharm · Jan 11, 2026

HOLY FUCK I AM GETTING CLOSE TO 85kg I CAN TASTE IT!!!

Day 4 on Reta, I have zero complaints, the transition from Sema has been absolutely fine and I hadnt had Sema since 22/12 (12/22), strangely enough (and I am not saying it is related to Reta because its early days) but I ate like 1.5 boxes of frozen yogurt on stick (popsicles I think they are called in the North American vernacular) over the weekend, I should check the macros but my sweet tooth has really flared up since stopping drinking but that was to be expected with my Hedonic levels being all over the place at the moment (and will be for quite some time)

I have managed to get to physical AA meetings twice since I have been home from PH (Physical meetings meaning in person vs online), as previously mentioned I was ill on Friday and Saturday and started to come good Sunday, back to my twice a day gym routine Sunday and went to the gym at 0500 this morning before work. Tonight consists of Muay Thai and then Gym.

Everything is good at the moment, no complaints, too early on Reta to know if its doing what its meant to be doing but I am confident it will but obviously my appetite has been stunted for a long time since being on and off Sema.

Many thanks for the support, especially from @ZenithHealth

Take car EVO Fam!!! Live long and Prosper!!

Kopite67 · Jan 11, 2026

3xCharm said:
HOLY FUCK I AM GETTING CLOSE TO 85kg I CAN TASTE IT!!!

Day 4 on Reta, I have zero complaints, the transition from Sema has been absolutely fine and I hadnt had Sema since 22/12 (12/22), strangely enough (and I am not saying it is related to Reta because its early days) but I ate like 1.5 boxes of frozen yogurt on stick (popsicles I think they are called in the North American vernacular) over the weekend, I should check the macros but my sweet tooth has really flared up since stopping drinking but that was to be expected with my Hedonic levels being all over the place at the moment (and will be for quite some time)

I have managed to get to physical AA meetings twice since I have been home from PH (Physical meetings meaning in person vs online), as previously mentioned I was ill on Friday and Saturday and started to come good Sunday, back to my twice a day gym routine Sunday and went to the gym at 0500 this morning before work. Tonight consists of Muay Thai and then Gym.

Everything is good at the moment, no complaints, too early on Reta to know if its doing what its meant to be doing but I am confident it will but obviously my appetite has been stunted for a long time since being on and off Sema.

Many thanks for the support, especially from @ZenithHealth

Take car EVO Fam!!! Live long and Prosper!!

Awesome news brother. Your diligence and focus is paying big dividends. I love Ret and find it just works for me as well. Love the journey so far.

Pigsy · Jan 11, 2026

Good updates brother

LevButlerov · Jan 11, 2026

3xCharm said:
HOLY FUCK I AM GETTING CLOSE TO 85kg I CAN TASTE IT!!!

Day 4 on Reta, I have zero complaints, the transition from Sema has been absolutely fine and I hadnt had Sema since 22/12 (12/22), strangely enough (and I am not saying it is related to Reta because its early days) but I ate like 1.5 boxes of frozen yogurt on stick (popsicles I think they are called in the North American vernacular) over the weekend, I should check the macros but my sweet tooth has really flared up since stopping drinking but that was to be expected with my Hedonic levels being all over the place at the moment (and will be for quite some time)

I have managed to get to physical AA meetings twice since I have been home from PH (Physical meetings meaning in person vs online), as previously mentioned I was ill on Friday and Saturday and started to come good Sunday, back to my twice a day gym routine Sunday and went to the gym at 0500 this morning before work. Tonight consists of Muay Thai and then Gym.

Everything is good at the moment, no complaints, too early on Reta to know if its doing what its meant to be doing but I am confident it will but obviously my appetite has been stunted for a long time since being on and off Sema.

Many thanks for the support, especially from @ZenithHealth

Take car EVO Fam!!! Live long and Prosper!!

Amazing work

truly you're getting clean results and retatrutide is a real and working 85kg win!! @3xCharm EVO family support your way!
happy to see you in AA and working hard, never give up, we support and love you!

ZenithHealth · Jan 11, 2026

3xCharm said:
HOLY FUCK I AM GETTING CLOSE TO 85kg I CAN TASTE IT!!!

Day 4 on Reta, I have zero complaints, the transition from Sema has been absolutely fine and I hadnt had Sema since 22/12 (12/22), strangely enough (and I am not saying it is related to Reta because its early days) but I ate like 1.5 boxes of frozen yogurt on stick (popsicles I think they are called in the North American vernacular) over the weekend, I should check the macros but my sweet tooth has really flared up since stopping drinking but that was to be expected with my Hedonic levels being all over the place at the moment (and will be for quite some time)

I have managed to get to physical AA meetings twice since I have been home from PH (Physical meetings meaning in person vs online), as previously mentioned I was ill on Friday and Saturday and started to come good Sunday, back to my twice a day gym routine Sunday and went to the gym at 0500 this morning before work. Tonight consists of Muay Thai and then Gym.

Everything is good at the moment, no complaints, too early on Reta to know if its doing what its meant to be doing but I am confident it will but obviously my appetite has been stunted for a long time since being on and off Sema.

Many thanks for the support, especially from @ZenithHealth

Take car EVO Fam!!! Live long and Prosper!!

Damn bro you are dropping weight like crazy, amazing stuff!

Over time you will get a feel for your sweet spot with Reta, for me if I ever feel hungry i know my dose is too low

3xCharm · Jan 11, 2026

Hey EVO Fam!

The results are here, I did consult ChatGPT and me and robot discussed that FOR ME my test was quite high (once again FOR ME) considering in the past when I am not using PEDs my test normally comes up 0.5nmol, I took 1000mg the day before I left for PH and the robot said id likely still have residuals in my system and then it told me my natural production is shut down at the moment.

My liver seems to be healing and the Cholesterol seems high but my white blood cell count is up because I still had a sore throat and low energy when I took the test so it couldve thrown the samples off

Anyway that was my Layman analysis with AI, let me know your thoughts

stevesmi · Jan 11, 2026

3xCharm said:
HOLY FUCK I AM GETTING CLOSE TO 85kg I CAN TASTE IT!!!

Day 4 on Reta, I have zero complaints, the transition from Sema has been absolutely fine and I hadnt had Sema since 22/12 (12/22), strangely enough (and I am not saying it is related to Reta because its early days) but I ate like 1.5 boxes of frozen yogurt on stick (popsicles I think they are called in the North American vernacular) over the weekend, I should check the macros but my sweet tooth has really flared up since stopping drinking but that was to be expected with my Hedonic levels being all over the place at the moment (and will be for quite some time)

I have managed to get to physical AA meetings twice since I have been home from PH (Physical meetings meaning in person vs online), as previously mentioned I was ill on Friday and Saturday and started to come good Sunday, back to my twice a day gym routine Sunday and went to the gym at 0500 this morning before work. Tonight consists of Muay Thai and then Gym.

Everything is good at the moment, no complaints, too early on Reta to know if its doing what its meant to be doing but I am confident it will but obviously my appetite has been stunted for a long time since being on and off Sema.

Many thanks for the support, especially from @ZenithHealth

Take car EVO Fam!!! Live long and Prosper!!

@3xCharm glad you are still killing it, man. It's good that you're also open about your AA stuff. That is really cool. It's hard for me to understand where you're coming from with that, but I'm happy to see you're doing better.

3xCharm · Jan 11, 2026

stevesmi said:
@3xCharm glad you are still killing it, man. It's good that you're also open about your AA stuff. That is really cool. It's hard for me to understand where you're coming from with that, but I'm happy to see you're doing better.

Thanks man, there's nothing wrong with not getting it, the main thing is pray you never get to point where you need one

If you ever want a deep dive; I am happy to explain it further

EvoNexus · Jan 11, 2026

HarleyGuy said:
Bro! You look better in those pics than the ones you sent me privately! Fantastic transformation happening for you here bro!

I will explain more in your Recovery Journal why it might be that you're keeping so busy and burning yourself out, which is 'avoidance'.

You need a complete deload of at least two days off of sleep and hydration. Let's not treat your transformation the way we drink (all or nothing). Like I always say this is a marathon not a spring so take a couple days off to deload and rest and I'll be with you on text/messenger to help you through how busy you're keeping and the inevitable crash those two days will feel like.

Having said that, great fackin work bro this is next level hitting it hard!

As usual I'm gonna pester you to put up some of your diet onoce you've figured out where your macros will come from based on the macro breakdown we decided on for your goals.

And as for the tren, be sure and keep it low like we talked about and post it here first to get feeedback before dosing anything.

Keep up the amazing work you you're looking much leaner and your back looks intimidating and thick bro!

facts… u can’t out-grind 4.5 hrs sleep + 1 meal man, recovery’s the real sauce here

EvoNexus · Jan 11, 2026

3xCharm said:
Wow I am getting a kick up the arse on all fronts!!!

Hello EVO Family!!

Here is a snippet from my 'Sobriety Journal: An Alcoholic's Journey'

'Yesterday I bailed out of my morning boxing session and came to the afternoon one and my trainer said "You can't focus and your punches are physically weak" to which I explained to him what I have been doing "0600 Gym, 1000 Boxing, 1700 Boxing, 2100 Gym, sleeping roughly 4.5 hours maybe a nap for 1.5 hours and eating one meal a day" and he said "you have clearly burnt yourself out" which I cannot argue with, I have burnt myself out!'

Retatrutide starts 30/01 (01/30) which coincides with day 30 of sobriety (maybe there is meaning behind that?) and discussing with @HarleyGuy I plan on crusing on Test and starting the big TrenBologna sandwich (Tren) and then incorporating a proper diet for size.

As previously mentioned I still want to get to 85kg (187.39lbs) just to say I did it and then put on mass from there.

My current method of working out is 6 days a week and trying to add 2.5kg to every work out or at least every week (i.e. last week you benched 55kg this week you will bench 57.5kg) which is easier on some muscle groups vs others but still try to stick to it.

I am currently 88.3kg (194.66lbs) I would like to add that when I was a gym rat in my early 20s I never did legs and this time around I am so my legs are extremely underdeveloped but I am making gains in strengh and some shape and I have added in one armed lateral pull down for my left lat to combat the lop sidedness

Thanks to everyone for your support and as always; Live long and Prosper!

bro i respect the hustle but that’s straight burnout territory. the “0600 gym / 1000 boxing / 1700 boxing / 2100 gym + 1 meal + 4.5 hrs sleep” is basically asking ur body to tap out

if u wanna keep this sustainable, pick your battles: keep boxing (since u love it), but make the gym sessions short + quality, and force a real rest day. also with the liver history you mentioned earlier, getting proper bloods + keeping stress/sleep in check is gonna pay off big time

post how ur sleep + appetite looks this week and if the fatigue/backslide urges change when u back off a bit

HarleyGuy · Jan 11, 2026

3xCharm said:
Hey EVO Fam!

The results are here, I did consult ChatGPT and me and robot discussed that FOR ME my test was quite high (once again FOR ME) considering in the past when I am not using PEDs my test normally comes up 0.5nmol, I took 1000mg the day before I left for PH and the robot said id likely still have residuals in my system and then it told me my natural production is shut down at the moment.

My liver seems to be healing and the Cholesterol seems high but my white blood cell count is up because I still had a sore throat and low energy when I took the test so it couldve thrown the samples off

Anyway that was my Layman analysis with AI, let me know your thoughts

These bloods are very promising considering you're only 5 weeks off a decade long bender! ALT is a little bit raised but nothing some N2Guard can't handle maybe with one extra cap of Tudka. Overall these bloods look great I think you're ready for a cycle.

3xCharm · Jan 11, 2026

EvoNexus said:
bro i respect the hustle but that’s straight burnout territory. the “0600 gym / 1000 boxing / 1700 boxing / 2100 gym + 1 meal + 4.5 hrs sleep” is basically asking ur body to tap out

if u wanna keep this sustainable, pick your battles: keep boxing (since u love it), but make the gym sessions short + quality, and force a real rest day. also with the liver history you mentioned earlier, getting proper bloods + keeping stress/sleep in check is gonna pay off big time

post how ur sleep + appetite looks this week and if the fatigue/backslide urges change when u back off a bit

Since ive got home I have dropped off a bit but it need to keep busy, my sleep is completely fucked at the moment which is annoying, for example I fell asleep at 0300 and work up at 0400 to go to the gym and then go to work.

I am hoping to get home this afternoon and have a wee sleep and then go to boxing

HarleyGuy · Jan 11, 2026

3xCharm said:
Since ive got home I have dropped off a bit but it need to keep busy, my sleep is completely fucked at the moment which is annoying, for example I fell asleep at 0300 and work up at 0400 to go to the gym and then go to work.

I am hoping to get home this afternoon and have a wee sleep and then go to boxing

Remember we talked about this that's a part of PAWS, which can last up to 6-12 months. Just listen to your body and focus on recovery first, then training. Burnout can lead to all sorts of mental fuckery which you're going through enough of already. Keep posting this type of sharing on here and you will have an outlet for what you're going through.

Mobster · Jan 12, 2026

3xCharm said:
HOLY FUCK I AM GETTING CLOSE TO 85kg I CAN TASTE IT!!!

Day 4 on Reta, I have zero complaints, the transition from Sema has been absolutely fine and I hadnt had Sema since 22/12 (12/22), strangely enough (and I am not saying it is related to Reta because its early days) but I ate like 1.5 boxes of frozen yogurt on stick (popsicles I think they are called in the North American vernacular) over the weekend, I should check the macros but my sweet tooth has really flared up since stopping drinking but that was to be expected with my Hedonic levels being all over the place at the moment (and will be for quite some time)

I have managed to get to physical AA meetings twice since I have been home from PH (Physical meetings meaning in person vs online), as previously mentioned I was ill on Friday and Saturday and started to come good Sunday, back to my twice a day gym routine Sunday and went to the gym at 0500 this morning before work. Tonight consists of Muay Thai and then Gym.

Everything is good at the moment, no complaints, too early on Reta to know if its doing what its meant to be doing but I am confident it will but obviously my appetite has been stunted for a long time since being on and off Sema.

Many thanks for the support, especially from @ZenithHealth

Take car EVO Fam!!! Live long and Prosper!!

Nearly there bro - go get it!!

stevesmi · Jan 12, 2026

3xCharm said:
Thanks man, there's nothing wrong with not getting it, the main thing is pray you never get to point where you need one

If you ever want a deep dive; I am happy to explain it further

Yeah you explained it good on the podcast for sure

2Thick · Jan 12, 2026

3xCharm said:
HOLY FUCK I AM GETTING CLOSE TO 85kg I CAN TASTE IT!!!

Day 4 on Reta, I have zero complaints, the transition from Sema has been absolutely fine and I hadnt had Sema since 22/12 (12/22), strangely enough (and I am not saying it is related to Reta because its early days) but I ate like 1.5 boxes of frozen yogurt on stick (popsicles I think they are called in the North American vernacular) over the weekend, I should check the macros but my sweet tooth has really flared up since stopping drinking but that was to be expected with my Hedonic levels being all over the place at the moment (and will be for quite some time)

I have managed to get to physical AA meetings twice since I have been home from PH (Physical meetings meaning in person vs online), as previously mentioned I was ill on Friday and Saturday and started to come good Sunday, back to my twice a day gym routine Sunday and went to the gym at 0500 this morning before work. Tonight consists of Muay Thai and then Gym.

Everything is good at the moment, no complaints, too early on Reta to know if its doing what its meant to be doing but I am confident it will but obviously my appetite has been stunted for a long time since being on and off Sema.

Many thanks for the support, especially from @ZenithHealth

Take car EVO Fam!!! Live long and Prosper!!

Keep up the good work man. 85 kg is fantastic. If you're used to using semaglutide then retatrutide would be really easy to transition to. @3xCharm

ROIDDERS · Jan 12, 2026

3xCharm said:
HOLY FUCK I AM GETTING CLOSE TO 85kg I CAN TASTE IT!!!

Day 4 on Reta, I have zero complaints, the transition from Sema has been absolutely fine and I hadnt had Sema since 22/12 (12/22), strangely enough (and I am not saying it is related to Reta because its early days) but I ate like 1.5 boxes of frozen yogurt on stick (popsicles I think they are called in the North American vernacular) over the weekend, I should check the macros but my sweet tooth has really flared up since stopping drinking but that was to be expected with my Hedonic levels being all over the place at the moment (and will be for quite some time)

I have managed to get to physical AA meetings twice since I have been home from PH (Physical meetings meaning in person vs online), as previously mentioned I was ill on Friday and Saturday and started to come good Sunday, back to my twice a day gym routine Sunday and went to the gym at 0500 this morning before work. Tonight consists of Muay Thai and then Gym.

Everything is good at the moment, no complaints, too early on Reta to know if its doing what its meant to be doing but I am confident it will but obviously my appetite has been stunted for a long time since being on and off Sema.

Many thanks for the support, especially from @ZenithHealth

Take car EVO Fam!!! Live long and Prosper!!

Great job man. I'm glad that you are staying straight. I quit alcohol a long time ago and I don't regret it at all. It's just completely pointless to go into the body. @3xCharm

kamsikazee · Jan 12, 2026

3xCharm said:
HOLY FUCK I AM GETTING CLOSE TO 85kg I CAN TASTE IT!!!

Day 4 on Reta, I have zero complaints, the transition from Sema has been absolutely fine and I hadnt had Sema since 22/12 (12/22), strangely enough (and I am not saying it is related to Reta because its early days) but I ate like 1.5 boxes of frozen yogurt on stick (popsicles I think they are called in the North American vernacular) over the weekend, I should check the macros but my sweet tooth has really flared up since stopping drinking but that was to be expected with my Hedonic levels being all over the place at the moment (and will be for quite some time)

I have managed to get to physical AA meetings twice since I have been home from PH (Physical meetings meaning in person vs online), as previously mentioned I was ill on Friday and Saturday and started to come good Sunday, back to my twice a day gym routine Sunday and went to the gym at 0500 this morning before work. Tonight consists of Muay Thai and then Gym.

Everything is good at the moment, no complaints, too early on Reta to know if its doing what its meant to be doing but I am confident it will but obviously my appetite has been stunted for a long time since being on and off Sema.

Many thanks for the support, especially from @ZenithHealth

Take car EVO Fam!!! Live long and Prosper!!

Get it brother!!

ceo · Jan 12, 2026

3xCharm said:
HOLY FUCK I AM GETTING CLOSE TO 85kg I CAN TASTE IT!!!

Day 4 on Reta, I have zero complaints, the transition from Sema has been absolutely fine and I hadnt had Sema since 22/12 (12/22), strangely enough (and I am not saying it is related to Reta because its early days) but I ate like 1.5 boxes of frozen yogurt on stick (popsicles I think they are called in the North American vernacular) over the weekend, I should check the macros but my sweet tooth has really flared up since stopping drinking but that was to be expected with my Hedonic levels being all over the place at the moment (and will be for quite some time)

I have managed to get to physical AA meetings twice since I have been home from PH (Physical meetings meaning in person vs online), as previously mentioned I was ill on Friday and Saturday and started to come good Sunday, back to my twice a day gym routine Sunday and went to the gym at 0500 this morning before work. Tonight consists of Muay Thai and then Gym.

Everything is good at the moment, no complaints, too early on Reta to know if its doing what its meant to be doing but I am confident it will but obviously my appetite has been stunted for a long time since being on and off Sema.

Many thanks for the support, especially from @ZenithHealth

Take car EVO Fam!!! Live long and Prosper!!

@3xCharm Bros, I am curious to see your day-to-day updates on the retatrutide. I want to see if it affects your fat loss and affects your appetite, how much versus semaglutide. I know it's a lot better. I've never used semaglutide before.

LevButlerov · Jan 12, 2026

3xCharm said:
Hey EVO Fam!

The results are here, I did consult ChatGPT and me and robot discussed that FOR ME my test was quite high (once again FOR ME) considering in the past when I am not using PEDs my test normally comes up 0.5nmol, I took 1000mg the day before I left for PH and the robot said id likely still have residuals in my system and then it told me my natural production is shut down at the moment.

My liver seems to be healing and the Cholesterol seems high but my white blood cell count is up because I still had a sore throat and low energy when I took the test so it couldve thrown the samples off

Anyway that was my Layman analysis with AI, let me know your thoughts

i hate ai tbh a lot of bad info @3xCharm
but your bloods are good actually, though test levels is before you pinned any testosterone? or after? I remember you were on self TRT already or am i wrong?

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
@Coolguy @toddthelineman @Sheshredz
@Trenhead3cc

Ulter · Jan 12, 2026

3xCharm said:
Hey Evo Fam,

Had a pretty shitty start to getting back on the horse (the fitness horse not falling off the wagon of drinking) I have brought something back with me from PH (not AIDS) I had a little bit of sore throat on the flight home, get a little bit worse yesterday at work and really woke up this morning with a throat full of gunk and generally low energy.

I dont feel too bad now so heres hoping I can get up tomorrow and do what I need to. By getting up late I missed my blood test too but they are open again tomorrow morning (Sunday) so I will hopefully go after the Gym tomorrow morning and if I am still ill I will just go and get the blood test anyway.

I have had 2 shots of Reta @ 10 units which I am told is "if you do it everyday that would be 0.57 * 7 = 4mg per week" so 0.57mg x 2? I am taking it slow as I overdosed Sema (overdosed my wife too) not long ago the the side effects were quite uncomfortable which I will do a tiny update on the Sema blog.

Monday night I am (hopefully) starting Boxing as per mentioned, Schedule consists of;
Monday - 2000 - Muay Thai
Tuesday - 1900 - Boxing Technique
Wednesday - 2000 - Muay Thai
Thursday - 1900 Boxing Technique
Friday - 1800 - Boxing Technique

It will be interesting to start the Muay Thai but I will be surprised if I progress as well as I did whilst in PH with the 1 on 1 Lessons with Traditional Boxing (I miss my Coach and lessons)

I am pretty to keen to get in to my diet, TRT and Tren but thats all dependent on my bloods.

that is a heck of a schedule for the week! that boxing looks fun! and so does the muay thai @3xCharm

3xCharm · Jan 12, 2026

ceo said:
@3xCharm Bros, I am curious to see your day-to-day updates on the retatrutide. I want to see if it affects your fat loss and affects your appetite, how much versus semaglutide. I know it's a lot better. I've never used semaglutide before.

Will do, I havnt noticed anything yet; Once it starts kicking in full hog I will do plenty of updates in photos and journal

3xCharm · Jan 12, 2026

LevButlerov said:
i hate ai tbh a lot of bad info @3xCharm
but your bloods are good actually, though test levels is before you pinned any testosterone? or after? I remember you were on self TRT already or am i wrong?

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
@Coolguy @toddthelineman @Sheshredz
@Trenhead3cc

When I went in to rehab I knew the rehab did boxing and gym daily so I decided to use OLD PEDs I had lying around from the last time I was sober which wouldve been maybe 18-24 months before my last stint in Rehab (2nd time I was in)

So from what the AI told me and please correct the AI and myself if we are wrong but it said my body isnt producing any Test and the test I still have which is abnormally high for me is what is left over from my last shot I had before I went to PH.

Before my 2nd child was born I was on Reandron 1000 (testosterone undecanoate) which was prescribed by a Endocrinologist, I stopped taking it when my wife wanted to fall pregnant and never went back on it even though my wife and mother kept asking if I would as they were concerned for my long term health with having such low test naturally but admittedly my Self Esteem got in the way with me saying dumb shit like "Oh well I look like a bag of shit anyway".

So on the tail end of my 2nd sobriety I started PEDs but then fell off the wagon and never went back to PEDs or the gym.

ceo · Jan 12, 2026

3xCharm said:
Will do, I havnt noticed anything yet; Once it starts kicking in full hog I will do plenty of updates in photos and journal

bros hell yeah let's hear it

3xCharm · Jan 12, 2026

Ulter said:
that is a heck of a schedule for the week! that boxing looks fun! and so does the muay thai @3xCharm

I did my first Muay Thai class last night, it was interesting and I will keep going however I do enjoy Boxing more (for now) I didn't get home until 2120, my wife and the kids went out to dinner with her friends so they got home 20 mins after and my wife said she would come to the gym but then she fucked around and it got late to which she says "Just give it a miss tonight" but I couldn't help myself, I don't particularly enjoy the gym at the moment (I have mentioned before; I hope I catch the gym bug again).

I am completely driven by compulsion at the moment to go and do gym/boxing as I was in PH, I am not complaining but I am sure I am over training and my sleep is horrendous at the moment but that would make a difference because no matter what my sleep will stay horrendous with exception that I might've fell asleep 1 hour earlier had I not gone to the gym.

ballin2504 · Jan 12, 2026

3xCharm said:
HOLY FUCK I AM GETTING CLOSE TO 85kg I CAN TASTE IT!!!

Day 4 on Reta, I have zero complaints, the transition from Sema has been absolutely fine and I hadnt had Sema since 22/12 (12/22), strangely enough (and I am not saying it is related to Reta because its early days) but I ate like 1.5 boxes of frozen yogurt on stick (popsicles I think they are called in the North American vernacular) over the weekend, I should check the macros but my sweet tooth has really flared up since stopping drinking but that was to be expected with my Hedonic levels being all over the place at the moment (and will be for quite some time)

I have managed to get to physical AA meetings twice since I have been home from PH (Physical meetings meaning in person vs online), as previously mentioned I was ill on Friday and Saturday and started to come good Sunday, back to my twice a day gym routine Sunday and went to the gym at 0500 this morning before work. Tonight consists of Muay Thai and then Gym.

Everything is good at the moment, no complaints, too early on Reta to know if its doing what its meant to be doing but I am confident it will but obviously my appetite has been stunted for a long time since being on and off Sema.

Many thanks for the support, especially from @ZenithHealth

Take car EVO Fam!!! Live long and Prosper!!

@3xCharm hell yea man! Making some awesome progress brother!

LevButlerov · Jan 12, 2026

3xCharm said:
When I went in to rehab I knew the rehab did boxing and gym daily so I decided to use OLD PEDs I had lying around from the last time I was sober which wouldve been maybe 18-24 months before my last stint in Rehab (2nd time I was in)

So from what the AI told me and please correct the AI and myself if we are wrong but it said my body isnt producing any Test and the test I still have which is abnormally high for me is what is left over from my last shot I had before I went to PH.

Before my 2nd child was born I was on Reandron 1000 (testosterone undecanoate) which was prescribed by a Endocrinologist, I stopped taking it when my wife wanted to fall pregnant and never went back on it even though my wife and mother kept asking if I would as they were concerned for my long term health with having such low test naturally but admittedly my Self Esteem got in the way with me saying dumb shit like "Oh well I look like a bag of shit anyway".

So on the tail end of my 2nd sobriety I started PEDs but then fell off the wagon and never went back to PEDs or the gym.

thank you I get this

@3xCharm i'm not very clear on the factual dates though remember this is very personal to you so i might miss something.
I see the test is on 11 january 2026, please give me the date of your last testosterone injection before this? thanks

HarleyGuy · Jan 12, 2026

3xCharm said:
I hope I catch the gym bug again

Fake it til you make it brother

3xCharm said:
I am completely driven by compulsion at the moment to go and do gym/boxing as I was in PH

Remember this is a 'mind' disease not a 'body' disease (only a 'body' disease once a drink is in us) so your addict brain is switching to obsessing about boxing. As addicts we tend to obsess and overdo things such that it affects our life in some negative way... my point being.... (see your quote below)

3xCharm said:
I am sure I am over training and my sleep is horrendous at the moment

So... see how it's manifesting differently and still 'active'? Treat the boxing right now like you would an obsession... you're in early recovery and your mind disease is wanting to hurt you so practice moderation with the boxing and include the gym along with it. Let's keep everything in balance. For addicts like us too much of a bad thing is death, and too much of a good thing can be bad and we will often make it bad and take the good out of it.

Step 1: We're fucked and can't mange our own lives.
As per our text messages etc.

3xCharm · Jan 12, 2026

LevButlerov said:
thank you I get this @3xCharm i'm not very clear on the factual dates though remember this is very personal to you so i might miss something.
I see the test is on 11 january 2026, please give me the date of your last testosterone injection before this? thanks

So started the PEDs at high doses (maybe 500mg a week) of Test E and then was eating Dbol and Anavar as well, think about 20mg each around late November with some consistency but really those numbers are completely accurate from 09/12 (12/09) and then 21/12 (12/21 500mg and 22/12 (12/22) 500mg again, so nothing from 23/12 (12/23)

3xCharm · Jan 12, 2026

Day 5 on Reta;
I still have zero complaints, I am snacking somewhat and last night when I ate dinner I only at half a plate of Peas, Carrots, 2 sausages and mash potato (so ate the sausages and mixed the spuds, peas carrots together and at maybe half)

It is definitely starting to work just hope it starts to kill off the snacking, no negative side effects to report

Many thanks for the support, especially from @ZenithHealth

Live long and Prosper!!

HarleyGuy · Jan 12, 2026

3xCharm said:
So started the PEDs at high doses (maybe 500mg a week) of Test E and then was eating Dbol and Anavar as well, think about 20mg each around late November with some consistency but really those numbers are completely accurate from 09/12 (12/09) and then 21/12 (12/21 500mg and 22/12 (12/22) 500mg again, so nothing from 23/12 (12/23)

You crazy addict you! Love you bro

HarleyGuy · Jan 12, 2026

3xCharm said:
Day 5 on Reta;
I still have zero complaints, I am snacking somewhat and last night when I ate dinner I only at half a plate of Peas, Carrots, 2 sausages and mash potato (so ate the sausages and mixed the spuds, peas carrots together and at maybe half)

It is definitely starting to work just hope it starts to kill off the snacking, no negative side effects to report

Many thanks for the support, especially from @ZenithHealth

Live long and Prosper!!

Give it a couple weeks... Reta takes longer than Sema for appetite suppression but works much better after 24+ weeks.

Ulter · Jan 13, 2026

3xCharm said:
I did my first Muay Thai class last night, it was interesting and I will keep going however I do enjoy Boxing more (for now) I didn't get home until 2120, my wife and the kids went out to dinner with her friends so they got home 20 mins after and my wife said she would come to the gym but then she fucked around and it got late to which she says "Just give it a miss tonight" but I couldn't help myself, I don't particularly enjoy the gym at the moment (I have mentioned before; I hope I catch the gym bug again).

I am completely driven by compulsion at the moment to go and do gym/boxing as I was in PH, I am not complaining but I am sure I am over training and my sleep is horrendous at the moment but that would make a difference because no matter what my sleep will stay horrendous with exception that I might've fell asleep 1 hour earlier had I not gone to the gym.

That's great man. You can get an addiction to boxing and really enjoy it.

waggat · Jan 13, 2026

3xCharm said:
I did my first Muay Thai class last night, it was interesting and I will keep going however I do enjoy Boxing more (for now) I didn't get home until 2120, my wife and the kids went out to dinner with her friends so they got home 20 mins after and my wife said she would come to the gym but then she fucked around and it got late to which she says "Just give it a miss tonight" but I couldn't help myself, I don't particularly enjoy the gym at the moment (I have mentioned before; I hope I catch the gym bug again).

I am completely driven by compulsion at the moment to go and do gym/boxing as I was in PH, I am not complaining but I am sure I am over training and my sleep is horrendous at the moment but that would make a difference because no matter what my sleep will stay horrendous with exception that I might've fell asleep 1 hour earlier had I not gone to the gym.

What's the story with your sleep mate? Based on your current situation I would say the issue would be due to overtraining. But your saying you always have sleep issues?

3xCharm said:
So started the PEDs at high doses (maybe 500mg a week) of Test E and then was eating Dbol and Anavar as well, think about 20mg each around late November with some consistency but really those numbers are completely accurate from 09/12 (12/09) and then 21/12 (12/21 500mg and 22/12 (12/22) 500mg again, so nothing from 23/12 (12/23)

So last dose just short of 3 weeks before the blood test. Results show natural production is shut down. What is your plan going forward?

3xCharm · Jan 13, 2026

waggat said:
What's the story with your sleep mate? Based on your current situation I would say the issue would be due to overtraining. But your saying you always have sleep issues?

So last dose just short of 3 weeks before the blood test. Results show natural production is shut down. What is your plan going forward?

My sleep has been shit for years, I average 4 hours but since I stopped drinking its even lower and what is the question sorry relating to the shut down?

3xCharm · Jan 13, 2026

Day 6 on Reta;
Zero complaints, Noticeable decrease in hunger, do feel a little 'different' in a slightly negative way but cant put my finger on it and its tolerable

Cant tell if theres any added bonuses for the addiction side of things but I certainly dont feel like drinking, see what happens if i see something that would normally trigger me.

Good product thus far @ZenithHealth

Here are some photos as well, I have started doing 1 armed lateral pull down (if thats a thing?) which I think is starting to work?

Thanks everyone

!!

waggat · Jan 13, 2026

3xCharm said:
My sleep has been shit for years, I average 4 hours but since I stopped drinking its even lower and what is the question sorry relating to the shut down?

Have you tried anything to help sleep? Supplements etc.

Re the shut down, just saying the bloods show your natural production is shut down. Which is expected based on doing the T in December.

3xCharm said:
Day 6 on Reta;
Zero complaints, Noticeable decrease in hunger, do feel a little 'different' in a slightly negative way but cant put my finger on it and its tolerable

Cant tell if theres any added bonuses for the addiction side of things but I certainly dont feel like drinking, see what happens if i see something that would normally trigger me.

Good product thus far @ZenithHealth

Here are some photos as well, I have started doing 1 armed lateral pull down (if thats a thing?) which I think is starting to work?

Thanks everyone !!

Looking good in the photos. Were the photos at the start of this log current at the time? If so, that's massive progress in only a few weeks. How has the scale changed?

ZenithHealth · Jan 13, 2026

3xCharm said:
Day 6 on Reta;
Zero complaints, Noticeable decrease in hunger, do feel a little 'different' in a slightly negative way but cant put my finger on it and its tolerable

Cant tell if theres any added bonuses for the addiction side of things but I certainly dont feel like drinking, see what happens if i see something that would normally trigger me.

Good product thus far @ZenithHealth

Here are some photos as well, I have started doing 1 armed lateral pull down (if thats a thing?) which I think is starting to work?

Thanks everyone !!

Damn man from your first photos you shared of yourself to now thats a huge change! Should be very proud of yourself brother.

HarleyGuy · Jan 13, 2026

3xCharm said:
Day 6 on Reta;
Zero complaints, Noticeable decrease in hunger, do feel a little 'different' in a slightly negative way but cant put my finger on it and its tolerable

Cant tell if theres any added bonuses for the addiction side of things but I certainly dont feel like drinking, see what happens if i see something that would normally trigger me.

Good product thus far @ZenithHealth

Here are some photos as well, I have started doing 1 armed lateral pull down (if thats a thing?) which I think is starting to work?

Thanks everyone !!

Bro this is some amazing progress. You should post the before shot you texted me too (for reference) so people can see what a huge transformation you've already done! Great work.

LevButlerov · Jan 13, 2026

3xCharm said:
So started the PEDs at high doses (maybe 500mg a week) of Test E and then was eating Dbol and Anavar as well, think about 20mg each around late November with some consistency but really those numbers are completely accurate from 09/12 (12/09) and then 21/12 (12/21 500mg and 22/12 (12/22) 500mg again, so nothing from 23/12 (12/23)

am I correct to understand this blood work was about 19 days after your last injection of 500mgs of testosterone? @3xCharm clarify please

LevButlerov · Jan 13, 2026

3xCharm said:
Day 6 on Reta;
Zero complaints, Noticeable decrease in hunger, do feel a little 'different' in a slightly negative way but cant put my finger on it and its tolerable

Cant tell if theres any added bonuses for the addiction side of things but I certainly dont feel like drinking, see what happens if i see something that would normally trigger me.

Good product thus far @ZenithHealth

Here are some photos as well, I have started doing 1 armed lateral pull down (if thats a thing?) which I think is starting to work?

Thanks everyone !!

looking good

leaner and stronger filling out! @3xCharm

3xCharm · Jan 13, 2026

HarleyGuy said:
Bro this is some amazing progress. You should post the before shot you texted me too (for reference) so people can see what a huge transformation you've already done! Great work.

Here ya go since I know how much you want to wank to my fat tits and spooge on my big belly

As I said to you, my poor wife use to have that on top of her..... GROTESQUE!

ZenithHealth · Jan 13, 2026

3xCharm said:
Here ya go since I know how much you want to wank to my fat tits and spooge on my big belly

As I said to you, my poor wife use to have that on top of her..... GROTESQUE!

Your wife must be over the moon at how you are now and especially over what you will become in the future, amazing work brother, truly

3xCharm · Jan 13, 2026

ZenithHealth said:
Your wife must be over the moon at how you are now and especially over what you will become in the future, amazing work brother, truly

Yeah she hasnt called me sexy in 10 years, I get told that a fair bit now

and when she hugs me she comments on how slim I am almost everytime

LevButlerov · Jan 13, 2026

3xCharm said:
Here ya go since I know how much you want to wank to my fat tits and spooge on my big belly

As I said to you, my poor wife use to have that on top of her..... GROTESQUE!

huge before and after changes

wow! @3xCharm

3xCharm · Jan 13, 2026

waggat said:
Have you tried anything to help sleep? Supplements etc.

Re the shut down, just saying the bloods show your natural production is shut down. Which is expected based on doing the T in December.

Looking good in the photos. Were the photos at the start of this log current at the time? If so, that's massive progress in only a few weeks. How has the scale changed?

So the photos of me at my worst were taken 25 of January 2025 when I first started taking Sema and the original point of project was that I read that Sema could help with alcohol which it was semi failed experiment or a 'mythbust' so to speak.

I went on and off Sema over the course of 2025 which I lost a total of 20kg (44lbs) but the real work only started late November/Early December with rehab.

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