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Approved Log My Summer muscle build cycle log

fingers86 said:
So gh 1iu morning 3 at night glucose still 4.5, reta and mots-c doing there job. No noticeable water retention, no fuzziness. No bp rise so will be going to 2iu tomorrow. This coming week i will be increasing mots-c for 3 weeks at 5mg 3days a week then potentially increasing reta if glucose creeps too high. Under 8 weeks left of this phase. Once phase complete most likely keeping test the same for a little while lowering gh back to 0. Then drop test back a little to cruise somewhere in the middle of the bracket of healthy test levels. Unless there is benifit to keep gh at lower dose with minimal risk? Obviously always risks and different for each person
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Keeping GH at 1-2iu pretty much indefinitey is low risk and has alot of benefits, its much like test levels - they both drop as we get older
 
fingers86 said:
Who's got a log with mots-c use longer than 4 weeks? I was reading on another site that cycle should be 2-4 week, is that what you guys recommend? Was wondering if its worth pushing that a little more or just drop it in 3 weeks.
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I intend to run it for my full cycle and beyond man, I think if your doing daily microdosing it should be fine
 
fingers86 said:
1 hour fasted cardio tredmill 13% incline 3km/h fuck that was sweaty. Now time to go replenish and maybe nap before legs lol
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perfect :D
 
fingers86 said:
Who's got a log with mots-c use longer than 4 weeks? I was reading on another site that cycle should be 2-4 week, is that what you guys recommend? Was wondering if its worth pushing that a little more or just drop it in 3 weeks.
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@Dreamer has a good peptide list on his log
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...d-retatrutide-team-gold-standard-labs.108002/

recent discussion by @Flyingandrei
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/injectable-l-carnitine-mots-c-fat-loss-aid.108595/

@TheOne1 started a mots-c log
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...e-cycle-testosterone-masteron-npp-hgh.108437/

@G-Merc 80 loves mots-c
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...comp-log-changing-my-life.106206/post-1904353
 
 
Monday
Seated leg curl 68kg 10,10,10,10 last one difficult but did it unaided.
Leg extension 61kg 10,10,10,10 first rep first set almost kicked weights into orbit will up next week
Calf raise 125kg 10,10,10,10
Front calf 95kg 10,10,10,10 upped weight from 85kg
Abductor in 45kg 10,10,10 but aid last 2. 10 but aided last 3 upped weights
Abductor out 45kg 10,10,10,10
Leg press 200kg 10,10,10. 150kg 15,15,15. 100kg 20,20,failed 15

30 minute 10%incline 3km/h cooldown and to learn to walk again.

Not quite there @LevButlerov
 
Touchdown @Prymal thanks mate looking fwd to trying these. Touchdown also added to your thread mate.
 

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Dreamer said:
I intend to run it for my full cycle and beyond man, I think if your doing daily microdosing it should be fine
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Loving your log by the way. Havnt listened to your podcast yet but will try to tonight. Currently i do 1 minute break between sets, you think this could be limiting progress? I find i get more fatigued than sorness if you know what i mean
 
fingers86 said:
Loving your log by the way. Havnt listened to your podcast yet but will try to tonight. Currently i do 1 minute break between sets, you think this could be limiting progress? I find i get more fatigued than sorness if you know what i mean
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Just having a quick look, all your reps are the same? Maybe try upping the weight and push to failure? Surely your not hitting 10,10,10,10 for failure?

Thank you brother, aw I hope you like the podcast haha, it was a nerve racking thing to do
 
Dreamer said:
Just having a quick look, all your reps are the same? Maybe try upping the weight and push to failure? Surely your not hitting 10,10,10,10 for failure?

Thank you brother, aw I hope you like the podcast haha, it was a nerve racking thing to do
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Yeah i am starting to up weights, now injuries are settling and arthritis flare has hopefully pissed off i will be starting to push harder. I todays leg sesh was pushed. Had to relearn to walk lol. I was hitting at 10 for most sets as last ones were difficult and thought it was failing to not hit. After reading from urself and comments from @LevButlerov i know that i should get to failure so can grow. New to this whole thing really as used to lift but never really progressed. Now i see why. Lucky i found evo to drain the knowledge pool so i can make real progress. I can already see drastic changes in the month ive been here.
 
fingers86 said:
Who's got a log with mots-c use longer than 4 weeks? I was reading on another site that cycle should be 2-4 week, is that what you guys recommend? Was wondering if its worth pushing that a little more or just drop it in 3 weeks.
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Longterm use bro for mots-c 100%. Mine hasn't arrived yet. Ill let you know when it does and instart taking it.

I will be following ayubace (instagram) how to run it. Also Sam Pearce uses it check his (instagram) real o.g and no nonsense coach.

I'm currently on:
300 test ( 150 2x a week)

3mg reta (1 shot a week)

200mg injectable L Carnitine daily (second week)
 
fingers86 said:
Yeah i am starting to up weights, now injuries are settling and arthritis flare has hopefully pissed off i will be starting to push harder. I todays leg sesh was pushed. Had to relearn to walk lol. I was hitting at 10 for most sets as last ones were difficult and thought it was failing to not hit. After reading from urself and comments from @LevButlerov i know that i should get to failure so can grow. New to this whole thing really as used to lift but never really progressed. Now i see why. Lucky i found evo to drain the knowledge pool so i can make real progress. I can already see drastic changes in the month ive been here.
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Glad to hear the injuries are settling! Now you can push properly, no worries at all, your in good hands here with Evo, plenty of knowledge.

If your going for 10 reps, once you can do those 10 reps pretty comfortably up the weight and go again, doesnt have to be huge increases at a time, just bit by bit you will grow.
 
Flyingandrei said:
Longterm use bro for mots-c 100%. Mine hasn't arrived yet. Ill let you know when it does and instart taking it.

I will be following ayubace (instagram) how to run it. Also Sam Pearce uses it check his (instagram) real o.g and no nonsense coach.

I'm currently on:
300 test ( 150 2x a week)

3mg reta (1 shot a week)

200mg injectable L Carnitine daily (second week)
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Yeah i just upped to 3 x 5mg shots per week. Might look them up. Cheers mate
 
Pinned 25mg npp as soon as received today, lubing up these arthritic joints. Twice a week. Will see how it goes and will report back. I need the wrist good to start doing proper dips instead of seated dips. Havnt attempted seated dips since injection in wrist as wrist kind of feels like a rusty cog. Dont want to use the npp as the driver this cycle just as an enabler.
 
fingers86 said:
Fasting glucose 4.7
Bp 118/78
took first jab of klow hopefully aids keeping inflamation at bay.

Currently on treadmill 10% incline 3km/h staying for an hour an sitting in zone 2.

Post this going to sit in sauna for half hour before going to replenish.
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good cardio :D! @fingers86
fingers86 said:
I also noticed the gym im going to for last few days has low oxygen training rooms. Whats the benifit of these
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basically good for blood flow and health in simple terms, use it if free
fingers86 said:
Pinned 25mg npp as soon as received today, lubing up these arthritic joints. Twice a week. Will see how it goes and will report back. I need the wrist good to start doing proper dips instead of seated dips. Havnt attempted seated dips since injection in wrist as wrist kind of feels like a rusty cog. Dont want to use the npp as the driver this cycle just as an enabler.
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good lets get the npp regular in there
 
LevButlerov said:
good cardio :D! @fingers86

basically good for blood flow and health in simple terms, use it if free

good lets get the npp regular in there
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Yep took npp yesterday when it touched down. Will do again thursday or friday. Finally had a hour nap after brekki feel good. I'll ask about it. Stress levels are up a bit thinking relationship, no longer living at ho.e at the moment so nap definately helped. First pin of klow today so hopefully start getting benifit of that soon too.
 
fingers86 said:
Yep took npp yesterday when it touched down. Will do again thursday or friday. Finally had a hour nap after brekki feel good. I'll ask about it. Stress levels are up a bit thinking relationship, no longer living at ho.e at the moment so nap definately helped. First pin of klow today so hopefully start getting benifit of that soon too.
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post some npp TD pics please @fingers86

and the nap perfect! and try to do some meditation
and you not at home, sorry I hope that settles
 
fingers86 said:
Beutiful touchdown from prymal. After my question about his confidence in the pens he threw one to me to try. I will obviously review very soon. Communication was great. Told me that pens without case were on the way and when he expected them. The following day i checked to see if posted yet as wanted to add to my order if possible and was more than happy to. So far cant fault prymal. Looking fwd to trying the pens, kloh and npp. Thanks mate
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fingers86 said:
Touchdown @Prymal thanks mate looking fwd to trying these. Touchdown also added to your thread mate.
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U missed it @LevButlerov. I read it takes a 3-5 days to notice joint relief so look fwd to that. Ordering some selank today to help fend off any stress flare ups. Looking at positives, more time to train
 
fingers86 said:
I actually like doing legs, thinking of adding a 2nd leg day, then got room for squats, lunges, reverse leg kick and maybe some hip thrusts.
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I agree with this. For me leg exercises are so taxing that if I try to do too many in one session, the ones at the end suffer. Particularly if you train calves with legs. If you do two legs days a week you can get after four or so exercises per session and still have energy for calves.
fingers86 said:
Monday
Seated leg curl 68kg 10,10,10,10 last one difficult but did it unaided.
Leg extension 61kg 10,10,10,10 first rep first set almost kicked weights into orbit will up next week
Calf raise 125kg 10,10,10,10
Front calf 95kg 10,10,10,10 upped weight from 85kg
Abductor in 45kg 10,10,10 but aid last 2. 10 but aided last 3 upped weights
Abductor out 45kg 10,10,10,10
Leg press 200kg 10,10,10. 150kg 15,15,15. 100kg 20,20,failed 15

30 minute 10%incline 3km/h cooldown and to learn to walk again.

Not quite there @LevButlerov
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A lot of volume on the leg press. I would have just done one set to failure at each of the three weights.

As mentioned by @Dreamer doing all sets for 10 reps means you could probably up the weight. I'll preface this by saying I'm not the biggest fan of straight sets with the same weight and same reps. If you can get 10 reps on set 4 that means the 10 reps on set 1 is very easy. I prefer to build up to a certain number of top sets that are taken to failure. This can range from one for low volume people to four for volume people like dreamer. But if multiple top sets at the same weight to failure you'd expect something like: 11, 10, 8 (reps reduce due to fatigue).
 
waggat said:
I agree with this. For me leg exercises are so taxing that if I try to do too many in one session, the ones at the end suffer. Particularly if you train calves with legs. If you do two legs days a week you can get after four or so exercises per session and still have energy for calves.

A lot of volume on the leg press. I would have just done one set to failure at each of the three weights.

As mentioned by @Dreamer doing all sets for 10 reps means you could probably up the weight. I'll preface this by saying I'm not the biggest fan of straight sets with the same weight and same reps. If you can get 10 reps on set 4 that means the 10 reps on set 1 is very easy. I prefer to build up to a certain number of top sets that are taken to failure. This can range from one for low volume people to four for volume people like dreamer. But if multiple top sets at the same weight to failure you'd expect something like: 11, 10, 8 (reps reduce due to fatigue).
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Yeah im currently trying this to failure on bench as we speak. Unfortunately no spotter so cant hard fail. Thanks for advice im learning heaps from you guys
 
fingers86 said:
When u say build to top set do you mean start eg 100kg go to failure, 150kg to failure then 200kg failure?
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To me these are the main options:

1) Low volume (look up Dorian Yates methods). Work up to one top set to all out failure, often with added intensity techniques. For this you make big jumps when you ramp up. So say for 100kg bench press you would go 40kg warmup, 60x10-12, 80x8-10, 100 x as many as possible

2) Standard bodybuilding ramping to one to two top sets. Similar to above but you get more sets near your top set. For the 100kg bench you'd go 40kg warmup, 60x10, 75x10, 90x10, 100 x AMAP. You can then add a second all out set at 100 or drop the weight to say 80-90 and hit higher reps (back off set)

3) As per (2) but keep the reps lower on your ramp up sets. This minimises fatigue until your top sets. If you do this you'd want to do at least two top sets.

4) Straight sets. This approach is for people who like volume. You'd warm up to your top weight, say 100kg, then go 100x10, 100x9, 100x8 etc.

I did ok on (4) when I started (and was young). Don't think I'll ever do that again at nearly 50 though. Would wipe me out. I stick with (1) to (3) now.
 
waggat said:
To me these are the main options:

1) Low volume (look up Dorian Yates methods). Work up to one top set to all out failure, often with added intensity techniques. For this you make big jumps when you ramp up. So say for 100kg bench press you would go 40kg warmup, 60x10-12, 80x8-10, 100 x as many as possible

2) Standard bodybuilding ramping to one to two top sets. Similar to above but you get more sets near your top set. For the 100kg bench you'd go 40kg warmup, 60x10, 75x10, 90x10, 100 x AMAP. You can then add a second all out set at 100 or drop the weight to say 80-90 and hit higher reps (back off set)

3) As per (2) but keep the reps lower on your ramp up sets. This minimises fatigue until your top sets. If you do this you'd want to do at least two top sets.

4) Straight sets. This approach is for people who like volume. You'd warm up to your top weight, say 100kg, then go 100x10, 100x9, 100x8 etc.

I did ok on (3) when I started (and was young). Don't think I'll ever do that again at nearly 50 though. Would wipe me out. I stick with (1) to (3) now.
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Thanks for the tip, something to look at as about to redo my gym plan anyway as want extra leg day to fit all in.
 
Tuesday
Flat bench 50kg 11,11,8. 40kg 8,10 ,7. 30kg 15,14,11
Incline bench 40kg 8,6,8,7
Decline bench 40kg 10,8,5,6
Tricep extension 50kg 13,13,10,7
Rotator cuff 8kg lh 13,10,10,9
Rh 13,10,10,9
Only went as far as weekest shoulder correct?

Should be increasing flat bench next week, wrist still feel shit got this wrist support on so tight lol.

30 minutes treadmill 7%incline 3km/h low oxygen room. That feels wierd. Free on my membership
 
fingers86 said:
I must say im feeling that chest workout. I didnt time rest this time as watch went flat. I think i got more out of it though. Lucky the gh been starting to help recovery. Was feeling flat today but still smashed it. Looking fwd to replanning the workouts incorporating @waggat suggestion. Thinking of number 1 or 2.
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Nice one mate sounds good. Always remember that you can give them all a go and find out what works best for you.
 
fingers86 said:
I also noticed the gym im going to for last few days has low oxygen training rooms. Whats the benifit of these
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Endurance. Makes your lungs and oxygen uptake via the blood more efficient. Same as training and higher altitudes and then come back to, for example, sea level. A previous harder run now feels easier. Of course I'd have googled it... but happened to know
 
fingers86 said:
Fasting glucose 4.7
Bp 118/78
took first jab of klow hopefully aids keeping inflamation at bay.

Currently on treadmill 10% incline 3km/h staying for an hour an sitting in zone 2.

Post this going to sit in sauna for half hour before going to replenish.
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@fingers86 started KLOW for the first time a week ago. so far so good. obviously its hard to know how much it helps cause i can't test out not using it for a week vs. using it. but it seems to be helping my recovery
 
Ok after 1 injection at 5mg and was planning to do 3 days a week. With my training now i am thinking of going to 2-3mg everyday. Still very close to the weekly dose i would have been on but with a short half life i think id get more benifit. Have read a few logs now on it and majority seem to use it as a preworkout. Now question, would it be better used for fasted cardio or when im bout to hit weights? Anyway actually gunna make most of being tired and try to have a longer sleep. Also wondering if should increase slu-too but more reading on that tomorrow. March is fast approaching and so is my first goal of seeing abs even if still a little off lol
 
stevesmi said:
@fingers86 started KLOW for the first time a week ago. so far so good. obviously its hard to know how much it helps cause i can't test out not using it for a week vs. using it. but it seems to be helping my recovery
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Yeah hard for me to tell with my hand/wrist too as usually feels bit better at the end of the day. The old trick used to be stick it under hot water but that stopped working lol.
 
fingers86 said:
Yeah hard for me to tell with my hand/wrist too as usually feels bit better at the end of the day. The old trick used to be stick it under hot water but that stopped working lol.
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Yeah I'm always beat up because it's fishing season and I always have little injuries here and there. I hit my foot pretty good and I also am dealing with a sore shoulder from casting so much.
 
fingers86 said:
Atleast urs is from having fun fishing
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very similar to weight training though. Once the adrenaline is going you don't feel the injury until you get home or the next day. I really injured my foot pretty bad. I'm pretty sure it was knocked into by one of my equipment and I didn't even know it at the time but my foot is swollen. I've been injecting the KLOW into my foot and it seems to be helping but it did take like two or three days for the swelling to go down. maybe it would have taken 6-7 days? hard to know but i think it does help but not a miracle that heals it after 1 injection in minutes
 
fingers86 said:
Fasting glucose 4.7
Bp 118/78
took first jab of klow hopefully aids keeping inflamation at bay.

Currently on treadmill 10% incline 3km/h staying for an hour an sitting in zone 2.

Post this going to sit in sauna for half hour before going to replenish.
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I want to see how you progress on KLOW too. all these new things coming out these days has me dazed. i want to see how good they are @fingers86
 
fingers86 said:
I also noticed the gym im going to for last few days has low oxygen training rooms. Whats the benifit of these
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Bros, when you train like that, it's like training up in the mountains. That's what endurance athletes like to do. It gives you an advantage when you train in a regular room. @fingers86
 
fingers86 said:
I also noticed the gym im going to for last few days has low oxygen training rooms. Whats the benifit of these
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@fingers86 it's going to help boost your endurance by doing it. You train your body not to get oxygen so then when you get oxygen you're going to feel a lot better. Why don't you try it out and let us know? That's a pretty cool room. I've never seen one of those.
 
fingers86 said:
Yep took npp yesterday when it touched down. Will do again thursday or friday. Finally had a hour nap after brekki feel good. I'll ask about it. Stress levels are up a bit thinking relationship, no longer living at ho.e at the moment so nap definately helped. First pin of klow today so hopefully start getting benifit of that soon too.
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KLOW is a good one. it can sting though when you inject it. not sure if you felt that its from the copper @fingers86
 
ROIDDERS said:
@fingers86 it's going to help boost your endurance by doing it. You train your body not to get oxygen so then when you get oxygen you're going to feel a lot better. Why don't you try it out and let us know? That's a pretty cool room. I've never seen one of those.
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Yeah tried it today. For about the first 5 minutes it felt really wierd. But then kind of just got used to it. Still felt different. Going to try my hour fasted cardio in there tomorrow getting hr up slightly higher more in the middle zone 2. Id never seen it before. Got some funky treadmills where simulates sled push and all. This gym has hot yoga and all. Trying hardest to not overdo it in a deficit. Got magnesium pools and all. Qill comment again poat cardio this morning
 
Ordered some l theanine and glycine last night to see if helps prevent waking every 2 hours. Go back to sleep fast but still annoying. Started mots-c 3mg daily today and increased slu to 6mg. Sweating balls currently low oxy cardio room. 13% incline 3km/h fasted. 21minutes in 39 to go. Feeling great. Anyone that gets the oppertunity to train in these worth a shot. Definately different experience.

2nd jab klow not too bad just a bit of sting again. No rash this time.

Ordering more slu today as been reading a bit more about higher doses but cant afford too high. Highest would go is 20mg twice a day if tollerated. But titrating up.
 
fingers86 said:
Fasting glucose 4.7
Bp 118/78
took first jab of klow hopefully aids keeping inflamation at bay.

Currently on treadmill 10% incline 3km/h staying for an hour an sitting in zone 2.

Post this going to sit in sauna for half hour before going to replenish.
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@fingers86 love a good sauna session. I feel so much better after I use one
 
Wanna start by giving a shoutout to @Norvex and @Ascension Peptides for checking in on me today. Great to have people assist more than providing products. Hope you both continue to grow. Wasnt feeling it today but below is what i achieved. Most have gone up in weights using one of the techniques i had explained to me. Correct me if i did it wrong.

Wednesday
Lat pulldown wide grip
Warmup 10kg x 10
25kg x10
40kg x10
55kg x 7
40kg x 13
upper back 45kg
Warmup 10kg x 10
20kg x 10
35kg x 10
50kg x 8
35kg x 9

-bicep curl
Warmup 10kg x 10
20kg x 10
30kg x 10
45kg x 5
30kg x 11
Let down by wrist forgot wrist support. come on npp kick in lol

-low row
Warmup 10kg x 10
25kg x10
35kg x 10
55kg x 16
40kg x 11
Assume could go heavier on top set as got 16

Currently cooling down on treadmill 8% incline 3km/h.

Following this half hour in sauna.

Then replenish.

might try to get into restorative yoga class at 1830.
Hope you all kick goals today
 
fingers86 said:
U missed it @LevButlerov. I read it takes a 3-5 days to notice joint relief so look fwd to that. Ordering some selank today to help fend off any stress flare ups. Looking at positives, more time to train
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you're right I did miss it sorry :D I open 100s of threads I can get lost lol @fingers86
hopefully it helps you!
fingers86 said:
Beutiful touchdown from prymal. After my question about his confidence in the pens he threw one to me to try. I will obviously review very soon. Communication was great. Told me that pens without case were on the way and when he expected them. The following day i checked to see if posted yet as wanted to add to my order if possible and was more than happy to. So far cant fault prymal. Looking fwd to trying the pens, kloh and npp. Thanks mate
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nice TD from @Prymal
 
Finally got my hand on citrus bergamont today so having 500mg morning and night. Defend organ support is at my house so will pick up tomorrow to start. Starting to have everything i need/want. Sleep supps get here tomorrow. Mums an old bitch so she getting some mellatonen for me. Also increasing magnesium from 400mg to 600 unless it should be higher?
 
fingers86 said:
Lunch time
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nice tasty :D
fingers86 said:
Finally got my hand on citrus bergamont today so having 500mg morning and night. Defend organ support is at my house so will pick up tomorrow to start. Starting to have everything i need/want. Sleep supps get here tomorrow. Mums an old bitch so she getting some mellatonen for me. Also increasing magnesium from 400mg to 600 unless it should be higher?
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600mgs magnesium is fine and TD your bergamot when you have it @fingers86
 
fingers86 said:
Yeah i read that i was to stay clear of blends. Had plenty time to read logs lol. Will touchdown defend tomorrow. Hopefully i can get a good supply for next cycle of n2 guard.
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next cycle I suggest this cycle get n2guard if you can :D
 
fingers86 said:
I Will be trying to. They have 200 in stock apparently so just gotta get funds now. Waiting for family to pay back money. Should be right in next cpl weeks
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awesome :D
 
fingers86 said:
Is tudca worth adding too? Read its proven to lower ast/lst or whatever it is. My liver throws a random value every few blood tests. Or would n2 gaurd be enough?
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n2guard has enough tudca when you get it but for now you can get tudca solo to start @fingers86
 
fingers86 said:
Is tudca worth adding too? Read its proven to lower ast/lst or whatever it is. My liver throws a random value every few blood tests. Or would n2 gaurd be enough?
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Tudca is absolutely worth it, I take 1000mg a day, my liver also does - I think alot of it is training stress, but my GGT is always well in range, get caps powder tastes like ass
 
fingers86 said:
Dont mind the sweat rash its hot up here lol. Starting to change. From where i started to now a big difference.
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Looking great brother timming up well!
fingers86 said:
Is tudca worth adding too? Read its proven to lower ast/lst or whatever it is. My liver throws a random value every few blood tests. Or would n2 gaurd be enough?
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Liver health is key for what we do in this game. It plays so many key factors and needs to be kept healthy as possible the whole time. I personally take 1000mg daily
 
fingers86 said:
@Dreamer currently reading your primo,hgh,test,npp log as thats what im thinking next cycle. Great read and very informative.
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Thank you brother, if you have any questions dont be afraid to dm me, I have learnt alot since then haha
 
fingers86 said:
How much tudca is recommended? Defend has 300mg so if could wait till i get n2 guard that would be preference.
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that will be enough to start :D
 
fingers86 said:
Yeah tried it today. For about the first 5 minutes it felt really wierd. But then kind of just got used to it. Still felt different. Going to try my hour fasted cardio in there tomorrow getting hr up slightly higher more in the middle zone 2. Id never seen it before. Got some funky treadmills where simulates sled push and all. This gym has hot yoga and all. Trying hardest to not overdo it in a deficit. Got magnesium pools and all. Qill comment again poat cardio this morning
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if you do fast set cardio in that room, you'll definitely improve a lot of endurance quickly because it's stressing your body out and forcing your body to get stronger.
 
ROIDDERS said:
if you do fast set cardio in that room, you'll definitely improve a lot of endurance quickly because it's stressing your body out and forcing your body to get stronger.
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Yep doing all my fasting cardio in there at moment. Only walking incline. 16% 3km/h hr 139. Dont want to get too high as saving energy for weights as in deficit.
 
fingers86 said:
Yep doing all my fasting cardio in there at moment. Only walking incline. 16% 3km/h hr 139. Dont want to get too high as saving energy for weights as in deficit.
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Yes, and I bet you noticed you breathe a lot heavier too. That's why you see when they play games in Denver or any other high altitude place, some of the players struggle because the higher altitude is less oxygen.
And that's why you see endurance athletes training up in the mountains for a reason.
 
ROIDDERS said:
Yes, and I bet you noticed you breathe a lot heavier too. That's why you see when they play games in Denver or any other high altitude place, some of the players struggle because the higher altitude is less oxygen.
And that's why you see endurance athletes training up in the mountains for a reason.
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Yeah did notice that. Cheers mate. Always takes about 5 minutes to get used to it.
 
That will do donkey, morning fasted cardio. 16%incline 3km/h 1 hour.

Time to replenish and go do dad duties.

Slu increased to 8mg. Definately needed a boost today. Tried mellatonen to get better sleep last night but ended up majority light sleep. Not for me obviously so dropping it. Get the other sleep sups today.
 

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fingers86 said:
That will do donkey, morning fasted cardio. 16%incline 3km/h 1 hour.

Time to replenish and go do dad duties.

Slu increased to 8mg. Definately needed a boost today. Tried mellatonen to get better sleep last night but ended up majority light sleep. Not for me obviously so dropping it. Get the other sleep sups today.
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love that cardio pump! @fingers86
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Sorry, ate the oats while eggs were cooking
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tasty :D
 
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