Test E pip

stevedude19 · Mar 11, 2026

Alright so I've done two injections now for trt.
Teragon labs test e. Seems like some people have no problem with it and others do. ( Like terrible pip or some claim it's under dosed)

Brother in law recommended it to me and has used it for a year no problem.

March 5th. First injection right quad. Hurt the next morning almost walking with a limp but that pain is gone now. Felt like a big bruise minor redness started on the 7th pain gone on the 9th

March 9th second injection left quad this time I heated up the oil in the syringe first. Pain started soon after maybe not quite as bad. But again almost walking with a limp the day after. After I left the gym yesterday I thought all pain was gone but it's back today .

Next pin is tomorrow and I'm on the fence of where to do it. Even thinking sub q but no clue how the pain will be. From discussions including the site that supplied it, I am thinking it has to do with the included benzyl benzoate. They (proroid) figures the lab includes more of it in the winter months to protect the test.

I wonder if I was doing sub q as I only used a half inch in my glutes. (Some YouTube video claimed that was all I needed)

Also I'll mention I was using 29g .5ml syringe. Pinning 32 units of test e 250mg/ML which should be 80mg

Any advice? Before I started I was planning on just doing delt but I gotta work Friday yet and I need my arms to work properly.

I already ordered test c from pur pharma (good reviews claiming no pip) but my damn credit union blocked payment on Monday so product still hasn't been sent. Might have to pin with the stuff I have 2 or 3 more times yet.

toddthelineman · Mar 11, 2026

stevedude19 said:
Alright so I've done two injections now for trt.
Teragon labs test e. Seems like some people have no problem with it and others do. ( Like terrible pip or some claim it's under dosed)

Brother in law recommended it to me and has used it for a year no problem.

March 5th. First injection right quad. Hurt the next morning almost walking with a limp but that pain is gone now. Felt like a big bruise minor redness started on the 7th pain gone on the 9th

March 9th second injection left quad this time I heated up the oil in the syringe first. Pain started soon after maybe not quite as bad. But again almost walking with a limp the day after. After I left the gym yesterday I thought all pain was gone but it's back today .

Next pin is tomorrow and I'm on the fence of where to do it. Even thinking sub q but no clue how the pain will be. From discussions including the site that supplied it, I am thinking it has to do with the included benzyl benzoate. They (proroid) figures the lab includes more of it in the winter months to protect the test.

I wonder if I was doing sub q as I only used a half inch in my glutes. (Some YouTube video claimed that was all I needed)

Also I'll mention I was using 29g .5ml syringe. Pinning 32 units of test e 250mg/ML which should be 80mg

Any advice? Before I started I was planning on just doing delt but I gotta work Friday yet and I need my arms to work properly.

I already ordered test c from pur pharma (good reviews claiming no pip) but my damn credit union blocked payment on Monday so product still hasn't been sent. Might have to pin with the stuff I have 2 or 3 more times yet.

Test e should be fine especially 250 mg/ml. Most likely the issue is you are pinning your quads. Glutes, ventroglutes, hip flexors. If you get real pip in your ventroglute from test e, something is wrong with your gear, throw it out. Or at very least try that pur pharma stuff out and see if it’s better.

Also, idk how you pin so much with an insulin syringe. I never use them. I use a 27g 1” luer lock needle and I bury it. No matter if I’m doing small daily injections or big weekly ones

jerseyshoremuscles · Mar 11, 2026

I use 25g glute and shoulders all day. No issues. Smooth like butter

LevButlerov · Mar 11, 2026

stevedude19 said:
Alright so I've done two injections now for trt.
Teragon labs test e. Seems like some people have no problem with it and others do. ( Like terrible pip or some claim it's under dosed)

Brother in law recommended it to me and has used it for a year no problem.

March 5th. First injection right quad. Hurt the next morning almost walking with a limp but that pain is gone now. Felt like a big bruise minor redness started on the 7th pain gone on the 9th

March 9th second injection left quad this time I heated up the oil in the syringe first. Pain started soon after maybe not quite as bad. But again almost walking with a limp the day after. After I left the gym yesterday I thought all pain was gone but it's back today .

Next pin is tomorrow and I'm on the fence of where to do it. Even thinking sub q but no clue how the pain will be. From discussions including the site that supplied it, I am thinking it has to do with the included benzyl benzoate. They (proroid) figures the lab includes more of it in the winter months to protect the test.

I wonder if I was doing sub q as I only used a half inch in my glutes. (Some YouTube video claimed that was all I needed)

Also I'll mention I was using 29g .5ml syringe. Pinning 32 units of test e 250mg/ML which should be 80mg

Any advice? Before I started I was planning on just doing delt but I gotta work Friday yet and I need my arms to work properly.

I already ordered test c from pur pharma (good reviews claiming no pip) but my damn credit union blocked payment on Monday so product still hasn't been sent. Might have to pin with the stuff I have 2 or 3 more times yet.

welcome again to the EVO family

@stevedude19 we just talked in your other thread on CA.
That sounds like classic PIP from the carrier or high BB, and quads are the worst place to pin that because they punish you for even mild irritation.
Move the next pins to ventroglute or glute with a 1inch needle so you know it is actually IM, keep the same 80mg dose, inject slow, and stop training legs the day of and day after.
I think your testosterone maybe not the best, have you tried baking it with pin on top?
you check this site? https://trtinjections.com

Also get a TRT log up now with your exact pin days, sites, needle length, dose, sleep, training, and any redness swelling or fever so the EVO family can see if this is just PIP or trending toward a reaction. 15min of your time

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
It will take 15-20 minutes max.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Nasser1997o2 · Mar 11, 2026

Quads always hurt.

Try your glutes, delts, lats, tricep or ventra-glute

All way better places.

Mobster · Mar 12, 2026

I do quads but others struggle with it.

stevesmi · Mar 12, 2026

stevedude19 said:
Alright so I've done two injections now for trt.
Teragon labs test e. Seems like some people have no problem with it and others do. ( Like terrible pip or some claim it's under dosed)

Brother in law recommended it to me and has used it for a year no problem.

March 5th. First injection right quad. Hurt the next morning almost walking with a limp but that pain is gone now. Felt like a big bruise minor redness started on the 7th pain gone on the 9th

March 9th second injection left quad this time I heated up the oil in the syringe first. Pain started soon after maybe not quite as bad. But again almost walking with a limp the day after. After I left the gym yesterday I thought all pain was gone but it's back today .

Next pin is tomorrow and I'm on the fence of where to do it. Even thinking sub q but no clue how the pain will be. From discussions including the site that supplied it, I am thinking it has to do with the included benzyl benzoate. They (proroid) figures the lab includes more of it in the winter months to protect the test.

I wonder if I was doing sub q as I only used a half inch in my glutes. (Some YouTube video claimed that was all I needed)

Also I'll mention I was using 29g .5ml syringe. Pinning 32 units of test e 250mg/ML which should be 80mg

Any advice? Before I started I was planning on just doing delt but I gotta work Friday yet and I need my arms to work properly.

I already ordered test c from pur pharma (good reviews claiming no pip) but my damn credit union blocked payment on Monday so product still hasn't been sent. Might have to pin with the stuff I have 2 or 3 more times yet.

This is the second thread on injection issues that I've seen. At the end of the day injections are a skill and it's important that you learn what muscles like to be injected and you also improve your injection technique. This will help you over time.

hypertrophydoug · Mar 12, 2026

If you're not on the leaner side I'd recommend using 1" needles for the time being.

I was around 15-17% body fat using 25g 1.25" needles in my quads when I started TRT a year ago. After a good course of Retatrutide, I'd imagine I'm closer to 10-12% body fat now and can now comfortably pin my delts with 27g 0.5" needles with proper cycle dosages. They give me no PIP other than the first couple due to them being virgin muscles. I had minor PIP for a day or two every quad injection even at TRT dosage. As @Mobster some people struggle with them.

You could be having some creeping into subQ territory if you are on the heavier side brother. Get that thing in there deep if so.

ceo · Mar 12, 2026

stevedude19 said:
Alright so I've done two injections now for trt.
Teragon labs test e. Seems like some people have no problem with it and others do. ( Like terrible pip or some claim it's under dosed)

Brother in law recommended it to me and has used it for a year no problem.

March 5th. First injection right quad. Hurt the next morning almost walking with a limp but that pain is gone now. Felt like a big bruise minor redness started on the 7th pain gone on the 9th

March 9th second injection left quad this time I heated up the oil in the syringe first. Pain started soon after maybe not quite as bad. But again almost walking with a limp the day after. After I left the gym yesterday I thought all pain was gone but it's back today .

Next pin is tomorrow and I'm on the fence of where to do it. Even thinking sub q but no clue how the pain will be. From discussions including the site that supplied it, I am thinking it has to do with the included benzyl benzoate. They (proroid) figures the lab includes more of it in the winter months to protect the test.

I wonder if I was doing sub q as I only used a half inch in my glutes. (Some YouTube video claimed that was all I needed)

Also I'll mention I was using 29g .5ml syringe. Pinning 32 units of test e 250mg/ML which should be 80mg

Any advice? Before I started I was planning on just doing delt but I gotta work Friday yet and I need my arms to work properly.

I already ordered test c from pur pharma (good reviews claiming no pip) but my damn credit union blocked payment on Monday so product still hasn't been sent. Might have to pin with the stuff I have 2 or 3 more times yet.

Bros, at the end of the day maybe you are allergic to the gear. It's hard to really say.

ROIDDERS · Mar 12, 2026

stevedude19 said:
Alright so I've done two injections now for trt.
Teragon labs test e. Seems like some people have no problem with it and others do. ( Like terrible pip or some claim it's under dosed)

Brother in law recommended it to me and has used it for a year no problem.

March 5th. First injection right quad. Hurt the next morning almost walking with a limp but that pain is gone now. Felt like a big bruise minor redness started on the 7th pain gone on the 9th

March 9th second injection left quad this time I heated up the oil in the syringe first. Pain started soon after maybe not quite as bad. But again almost walking with a limp the day after. After I left the gym yesterday I thought all pain was gone but it's back today .

Next pin is tomorrow and I'm on the fence of where to do it. Even thinking sub q but no clue how the pain will be. From discussions including the site that supplied it, I am thinking it has to do with the included benzyl benzoate. They (proroid) figures the lab includes more of it in the winter months to protect the test.

I wonder if I was doing sub q as I only used a half inch in my glutes. (Some YouTube video claimed that was all I needed)

Also I'll mention I was using 29g .5ml syringe. Pinning 32 units of test e 250mg/ML which should be 80mg

Any advice? Before I started I was planning on just doing delt but I gotta work Friday yet and I need my arms to work properly.

I already ordered test c from pur pharma (good reviews claiming no pip) but my damn credit union blocked payment on Monday so product still hasn't been sent. Might have to pin with the stuff I have 2 or 3 more times yet.

You can always just make a rule: if an injection doesn't go well maybe consider not injecting in that spot again.

2Thick · Mar 12, 2026

stevedude19 said:
Alright so I've done two injections now for trt.
Teragon labs test e. Seems like some people have no problem with it and others do. ( Like terrible pip or some claim it's under dosed)

Brother in law recommended it to me and has used it for a year no problem.

March 5th. First injection right quad. Hurt the next morning almost walking with a limp but that pain is gone now. Felt like a big bruise minor redness started on the 7th pain gone on the 9th

March 9th second injection left quad this time I heated up the oil in the syringe first. Pain started soon after maybe not quite as bad. But again almost walking with a limp the day after. After I left the gym yesterday I thought all pain was gone but it's back today .

Next pin is tomorrow and I'm on the fence of where to do it. Even thinking sub q but no clue how the pain will be. From discussions including the site that supplied it, I am thinking it has to do with the included benzyl benzoate. They (proroid) figures the lab includes more of it in the winter months to protect the test.

I wonder if I was doing sub q as I only used a half inch in my glutes. (Some YouTube video claimed that was all I needed)

Also I'll mention I was using 29g .5ml syringe. Pinning 32 units of test e 250mg/ML which should be 80mg

Any advice? Before I started I was planning on just doing delt but I gotta work Friday yet and I need my arms to work properly.

I already ordered test c from pur pharma (good reviews claiming no pip) but my damn credit union blocked payment on Monday so product still hasn't been sent. Might have to pin with the stuff I have 2 or 3 more times yet.

I wouldn't listen to a brother-in-law when it comes to what to do. At the end of the day not everyone out there really knows what they are talking about even if they think they do.

Ulter · Mar 12, 2026

Some people are more prone to post-injection pain. It just depends on each person. Me personally, I'm an alpha. Nothing bothers me at all. I don't feel pain and I don't sense pain.

stevedude19 · Mar 12, 2026

toddthelineman said:
Test e should be fine especially 250 mg/ml. Most likely the issue is you are pinning your quads. Glutes, ventroglutes, hip flexors. If you get real pip in your ventroglute from test e, something is wrong with your gear, throw it out. Or at very least try that pur pharma stuff out and see if it’s better.

Also, idk how you pin so much with an insulin syringe. I never use them. I use a 27g 1” luer lock needle and I bury it. No matter if I’m doing small daily injections or big weekly one

It's actually been fine with the insulin syringe. Takes maybe 30 seconds to get it loaded properly but I don't like how long it takes to inject I just want to get the needle out ASAP I'm sure I'll get more comfortable with it yet. And I'll be honest I was hoping to not go longer then 1/2" I guess its just a physiological thing but I'll be a big boy and pick up several 27g 1" from the pharmacy before I go home. Idk I was thinking deltoid or try sub q with my 5/16 needle into belly fat.

Nasser1997o2 said:
Quads always hurt.

Try your glutes, delts, lats, tricep or ventra-glute

All way better places.

So many YouTube videos on trt injection sites. I just happened to watch the wrong one. Damnit!

Thanks for the tip.

ROIDDERS said:
You can always just make a rule: if an injection doesn't go well maybe consider not injecting in that spot again.

Ya I wasn't sure if I should try again yet because a few people told me "virgin muscle" hurts the first time but ya seems like quad might be one of the "worst" spots

2Thick said:
I wouldn't listen to a brother-in-law when it comes to what to do. At the end of the day not everyone out there really knows what they are talking about even if they think they do.

Well he's the only one I know whose on testosterone. So I figured if he's used it for a year already and that same source it should be g2g. But I also found out that's he's never once has his t levels checked. But I've learned so much in these last few weeks. Definitely going to continue to learn a lot here.

stevedude19 · Mar 12, 2026

LevButlerov said:
welcome again to the EVO family @stevedude19 we just talked in your other thread on CA.
That sounds like classic PIP from the carrier or high BB, and quads are the worst place to pin that because they punish you for even mild irritation.
Move the next pins to ventroglute or glute with a 1inch needle so you know it is actually IM, keep the same 80mg dose, inject slow, and stop training legs the day of and day after.
I think your testosterone maybe not the best, have you tried baking it with pin on top?
you check this site? https://trtinjections.com

Also get a TRT log up now with your exact pin days, sites, needle length, dose, sleep, training, and any redness swelling or fever so the EVO family can see if this is just PIP or trending toward a reaction. 15min of your time

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.

Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.

The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.

Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

It will take 15-20 minutes max.

We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

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Okay I'm going to start it this evening . Ya I've heard of heating the vial up with a needle in the top to vent. I just want to stop using the brand I have so hopefully my syn test c gets here soon. But we'll see how it goes today doing my delt with 27g 1" or maybe I'll try sub q in my belly . Eventually I'll have the balls to pin my ass haha just need to work up to it and get more confidence. Just gotta stop getting worried that I'm gonna have to go to the hospital because I did something wrong.

Thanks for the help!

ballin2504 · Mar 12, 2026

The guys got ya covered.

LevButlerov · Mar 12, 2026

stevedude19 said:
Okay I'm going to start it this evening . Ya I've heard of heating the vial up with a needle in the top to vent. I just want to stop using the brand I have so hopefully my syn test c gets here soon. But we'll see how it goes today doing my delt with 27g 1" or maybe I'll try sub q in my belly . Eventually I'll have the balls to pin my ass haha just need to work up to it and get more confidence. Just gotta stop getting worried that I'm gonna have to go to the hospital because I did something wrong.

Thanks for the help!

awesome

lets start the log asap and we'll talk there more details @stevedude19

stevedude19 · Mar 12, 2026

hypertrophydoug said:
If you're not on the leaner side I'd recommend using 1" needles for the time being.

I was around 15-17% body fat using 25g 1.25" needles in my quads when I started TRT a year ago. After a good course of Retatrutide, I'd imagine I'm closer to 10-12% body fat now and can now comfortably pin my delts with 27g 0.5" needles with proper cycle dosages. They give me no PIP other than the first couple due to them being virgin muscles. I had minor PIP for a day or two every quad injection even at TRT dosage. As @Mobster some people struggle with them.

You could be having some creeping into subQ territory if you are on the heavier side brother. Get that thing in there deep if so.

Okay just picked up 25 gauge 1 inch I think that would be okay for delt . No more then 22% body fat

LevButlerov · Mar 12, 2026

stevedude19 said:
Okay just picked up 25 gauge 1 inch I think that would be okay for delt . No more then 22% body fat

add the 25g pics in your new log please

@stevedude19

2Thick · Mar 13, 2026

stevedude19 said:
So many YouTube videos on trt injection sites. I just happened to watch the wrong one. Damnit!

Well he's the only one I know whose on testosterone. So I figured if he's used it for a year already and that same source it should be g2g. But I also found out that's he's never once has his t levels checked. But I've learned so much in these last few weeks. Definitely going to continue to learn a lot here.

You would be surprised. Most people who are using these things have no clue what they're doing. The misconception out there is that people think if a YouTuber has 100,000 followers it means they know their stuff and it's usually the opposite.

ROIDDERS · Mar 13, 2026

stevedude19 said:
Ya I wasn't sure if I should try again yet because a few people told me "virgin muscle" hurts the first time but ya seems like quad might be one of the "worst" spots

You have to keep practicing injecting. You're not going to get anywhere unless you learn from trial and error, just like anything else in life.

stevedude19 · Mar 13, 2026

ROIDDERS said:
You have to keep practicing injecting. You're not going to get anywhere unless you learn from trial and error, just like anything else in life.

Did my delt last night. A lot less pain.
Here's my log. Can't find how to put it in my sig

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-and-reta-log.109809/

ROIDDERS · Mar 13, 2026

stevedude19 said:
Did my delt last night. A lot less pain.
Here's my log. Can't find how to put it in my sig

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-and-reta-log.109809/

don't worry. They will put it in your signature for you man. Good job putting up a log.

stevedude19 · Mar 13, 2026

ROIDDERS said:
don't worry. They will put it in your signature for you man. Good job putting up a log.

Thanks appreciate it!

LevButlerov · Mar 13, 2026

stevedude19 said:
Did my delt last night. A lot less pain.
Here's my log. Can't find how to put it in my sig

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-and-reta-log.109809/

going to check it soon

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