Specific Cycle Expectations

[Kingmoy]

Hey Bros,

I'm 9 days into my first cycle. It is a recommended stack that I found on the site, which I'll share below. I've read up a lot on the individual effects, both good and bad, of each of the different components, but I'm interested to hear any insight as to what I can expect along the way with this particular combination.

I purchased these items from RoidMass, Sarms1, and Need To Build...so I am assuming that they are legit. But right now, I'm not feeling a whole lot. Maybe a couple weird pumps. One when I was doing tri's and another couple in my lower back when I was running. Perhaps I'm just impatient.

So my questions are things like:

When should I be feeling the effects?
What should I be feeling when they do kick in?


Week Anavar Winstrol Cardarine(GW) N2Slin N2Guard HCGenerate
1 50mgs/ED 50mgs/ED 20mgs/ED 4tabs/ED 7caps/ED 5caps/ED
2 50mgs/ED 50mgs/ED 20mgs/ED 4tabs/ED 7caps/ED 5caps/ED
3 50mgs/ED 50mgs/ED 20mgs/ED 4tabs/ED 7caps/ED 5caps/ED
4 50mgs/ED 50mgs/ED 20mgs/ED 4tabs/ED 7caps/ED 5caps/ED
5 50mgs/ED 50mgs/ED 20mgs/ED 4tabs/ED 7caps/ED 5caps/ED
6 50mgs/ED 50mgs/ED 20mgs/ED 4tabs/ED 7caps/ED 5caps/ED

Thanks!

 

[muskate]

Both Anavar and Winstrol have haft lives of less then 24 hours. You should already be noticing the effects of the cycle.

It is very hard to predict results from cycles because it depends on genetics, your training, nutrition etc but you should notice an increase in recovery, increase in strength, increase in endurance and increased fat loss.

Be patient. You are most likely expecting miracles. Steroids will enhance your diet and training but they won't provide results over night. Your cycle looks good. Focus on nailing down your diet and training and you will get the results you want.

 

[Kingmoy]

Thank you, Muskate

 

[jiggaro]

I love anavar to wrap up my cycles along with proviron. Shred me down.

 

[muskate]

Thank you, Muskate

Cheers buddy. Keep training hard.

 

[stevesmi]

with these short acting orals you should start feeling pumps after 10 days. seems like you are starting to feel them.

you are running 2 dry and anabolic compounds though, so you won't get much in the way of weight gain.. plus since you didn't include an androgen you won't get much strength gains either.

you should always stack an androgenic compound with var or winny to give the cycle a kick. not sure who put you on that cycle but its more of a polishing cycle for someone already big, you aren't going to get much in the way of results if that isn't your goal.

this is why the bro science on forums always tell you to run test as a first cycle. a simple 500mg a week and you can stack in some var or winny with it if you want. test will give you the best of both worlds

 

[Crossfit]

Did not feel var until week 3-4

 

[LevButlerov]

Usually, it takes me a couple of weeks to start noticing the effects of SARMs and roughly 10-12 days for the orals. Hence, your effects are about to come I think.

 

[aggirl]

I have used both of those orals. Although never together. I usually start to really feel the effects within 2 weeks.

I get strong pumps when I'm not on cycle.....but Anavar pumps are intense. If your taking legit var you will know what I mean.

Don't expect to blow up on this cycle.....it's not going to happen.

Keep us posted on your progress.

 

[TurnUpTheGAS]

VIP's correct me if i'm wrong please, but even though its only a 6 weeker (short cycle) don't var and winny still pressures natty test production? I was under the impression that test should be the basis of all cycles. sarms also from what i gather do the same, which is why they tell you to run for 21 days on 21 on days off if not running with test because it will start to shut you down, nothign like a 19 nor but will still happen. Should he be running test as a base or is it not neccessary with the 6 week short cycle with only winny and var

 

[muskate]

VIP's correct me if i'm wrong please, but even though its only a 6 weeker (short cycle) don't var and winny still pressures natty test production? I was under the impression that test should be the basis of all cycles. sarms also from what i gather do the same, which is why they tell you to run for 21 days on 21 on days off if not running with test because it will start to shut you down, nothign like a 19 nor but will still happen. Should he be running test as a base or is it not neccessary with the 6 week short cycle with only winny and var

SARMS are VERY minimally suppressive of HPTA so a testosterone base is not needed for a cycle of SARMS. We are talking 5-10% suppression.

Any steroid will suppress natural testosterone levels. I personally would include a TRT testosterone dosage with every cycle you do, but it isn't needed per say. That cycle will still work without a testosterone base, you just might experience some of the symptoms related with low testosterone - lack of sex drive, trouble getting erections etc.

 

[LevButlerov]

VIP's correct me if i'm wrong please, but even though its only a 6 weeker (short cycle) don't var and winny still pressures natty test production? I was under the impression that test should be the basis of all cycles. sarms also from what i gather do the same, which is why they tell you to run for 21 days on 21 on days off if not running with test because it will start to shut you down, nothign like a 19 nor but will still happen. Should he be running test as a base or is it not neccessary with the 6 week short cycle with only winny and var

SARMs cause at most 5-10% of the suppression seen with steroids, so it is not a concern at all, as this kind of suppression can happen to people on a natural basis. As for the cycling 21 days on and off, this will not help one bit, as the steroids will start suppressing your natty test production the moment you start using them. All in all, there is no need to worry about suppression with SARMs.