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Good to hear that your values are normal. In my case, i just might be unlucky with the batch that i got or just something else. The cialis colour is orange to pink
No brother, im not lying and im not blaming raptor for this. Other people are using his products with no issue. We are just trying to see the root of the issue and how to solve it and prevent it from happening again. This will benefit everyone
Good brother, let us know about the results please. We don’t want to blame the vendor before checking
I have an appointment next week
It shouldn’t matter 1.2ml is sufficient
Been tested for Syphilis?
I've actually got no idea what I'm talking about. I just wanted to be a part of the conversation
You had me convinced
What do you mean by "we"? Don't mistake my intentions about having bloods done, I'm loving his GH. And for transparency sake, I'm a sponsored @Raptor Labs athlete. I simply mentioned getting bloods done because it's been planned since day one that I would get bloods after 4 weeks on 200mg test (to check health markers such as lipids, liver and kidney values and not necessarily GH or igf) which happens to be next week.
Sorry for this misunderstanding, i meant that i don’t want to blame the vendor. In case that your blood work is fine, then there is no issue with the hgh. my issue might be that i just got a bad batch or because of other reasons unrelated to the hgh.
I have stopped everything, i will not use anything (not even supplements) for 2-3 weeks and redo the test. If the test is fine, I will use the hgh alone with new bac and test again after 2 week and see. And again, im not blaming the vendor, rather, im trying to find the root of the issue because the enzymes are significantly high
Bro I was getting close to those numbers when I was an alcoholic,
Something isn't right here there's got to be more to the story
How fat are you? It’s possibly fatty liver. Doesn’t have to be from alcohol or drugs.
I can assure you it’s not the bac water. I’ve been using a 30ml from premium for weeks, had bloods done last week and all liver enzymes were perfect. Running trt (true trt not the bullshit doses used on here) and 2iu GH.
Those that know me on here would know well I’m not a marketing tool or endorsing anyone, very experienced veteran user.
I can assure you it’s not the bac water. I’ve been using a 30ml from premium for weeks, had bloods done last week and all liver enzymes were perfect. Running trt (true trt not the bullshit doses used on here) and 2iu GH.
Those that know me on here would know well I’m not a marketing tool or endorsing anyone, very experienced veteran user.
Forgot to mention all vials are clear but their from live well
How much is considered true trt? Not being a smart arse, I agree with you that people run it too high and it puts them well above the high end of normal range.
True trt doesn't exist
Every person is different
Not one person is the same
Like. Mine is 250 mgs a week test e
Others could be 125mgs
Depending on medical condition (co morbidities) they could also add deca
Great post and agree.
For me 0.5ml sits me at about 21nmol. I function perfectly on that and no reason to be chasing higher numbers if non need to. I don’t need any ai either, but I’m super strict with lifestyle and food habits too.
Trt has no one dose fits all, it needs to be trial and error through constant blood work and of course consistent testosterone supply. Jumping from one vendor to another will hinder results and cause fluctuations. If you can go through a clinic would be best for your trt.
Agree good advice brother
Exactly right. I was being somewhat facetious when asking how much "true" trt is. It'll differ for everyone. It's whatever puts someone in a healthy normal range
So about 125mg works for you yeah?
Yeah, I split it to 4x 0.125ml. This for me personally felt my best. That is another thing you need to play around with is frequency. Some people do well with 1 or 2 shots a week, for me it felt like a rollercoaster and being prone to gyno it played around with my estro levels. At 3-4 shots a week ( intra or sub-q made no diffeence and I kept with intra) it kept everything well within normal range, including cholesterol markers. It has taken me almost couple years to narrow down consistency, injection frequency and tonnes of blood work. Roidsafe makes it quite affordable to manage all this.
Trust me, never go off other peoples protocols, it is truly unique to each individual. Start with minimal dose and work from there. Not 1ml a week. go with 0.3-0.4ml and after 6-8 weeks do bloods and see how it looks and of course how you feel but dont except miracles after the first set of bloods.
Hey brother, by chance do you keep your BAC Water in the fridge, I know I remember someone saying that can cause ‘floaties’ or etc when used to reconstitute.
It shouldn't.
Like odin said there should be nothing in the bac water other then sterile water and the alcohol.
The gh should be the same.
If the water has been around for longer then the 28 days it could be that or failing to clean the top each time etc to cause contamination?
Definitely not mate. no need to.
Thanks mate, appreciate your point. It’s good that your blood work is fine.
Im about 18 to 20 % body fat. I was discussing with my family today the possibility that I already have a fatty liver that got triggered by hgh as hgh increase FFA which can cause oxidative stress if the liver does not clear it properly. However, the floating bits in the hgh vial made me worried that the issue might be from a contaminated or poorly made hgh. Worth noting that i have done liver enzymes test many times before and i have not seen them go above 40.
Used perplexity pro deep research for a bit of backup but yes, refrigerated bac can cause crystalisation not from contamination but from temp fluctuations. Realistically, this temp fluctuations can still be seen if the bac water was sufficiently cold enough already ie, cold room etc, to cause this crystalisation. (View the photos). Also, for contiminants, your main and major concerns are LPS and endotoxins, which both are NOT visible to the naked eye. So unless this is like a microplastic or something bizarre like that in the peptide, the hgh is absolutely fine. Remember, reconstituting it too fast to the point where you ‘destabilised’ the peptide to the point where it formed crystals, eg, vacuum seal ripped the water out too fast when reconstituting. For your liver, this is most likely a completely unrelated issue, genetic or environmental where you should do what ‘normal’ people do and get it checked out at the doctors asap. Then again, I could be wrong and what’s in that vial is not hgh or that cialis is not cialis etc. 
But, this is something you risk willingly whenever taking anything like this. Good luck brother 
But, this is something you risk willingly whenever taking anything like this. Good luck brother
HGH doesn't cause fatty liver you are interpreting a. Study you read wrongly.
Post the study on here so I can read it and explain it to you properly please. We don't need anymore bro science misinformation about steroids already enough of that going around with the YouTube cult.
Thanks mate, appreciate your valuable information. Definitely there are many other factors that might cause the enzymes issue. Contaminated cilais, cialis and supplements interaction or i just might have liver issue unrelated to the stuff im using. I booked an appointment with the doctor and he said it’s because the stuff im using which is a typical doctor answerUsed perplexity pro deep research for a bit of backup but yes, refrigerated bac can cause crystalisation not from contamination but from temp fluctuations. Realistically, this temp fluctuations can still be seen if the bac water was sufficiently cold enough already ie, cold room etc, to cause this crystalisation. (View the photos). Also, for contiminants, your main and major concerns are LPS and endotoxins, which both are NOT visible to the naked eye. So unless this is like a microplastic or something bizarre like that in the peptide, the hgh is absolutely fine. Remember, reconstituting it too fast to the point where you ‘destabilised’ the peptide to the point where it formed crystals, eg, vacuum seal ripped the water out too fast when reconstituting. For your liver, this is most likely a completely unrelated issue, genetic or environmental where you should do what ‘normal’ people do and get it checked out at the doctors asap. Then again, I could be wrong and what’s in that vial is not hgh or that cialis is not cialis etc.
. I will redo the test in 2 weeks and see. I wish it’s not hgh, i felt good on it, good muscle fullness, and deep sleep.Definitely brother, hgh does not cause fatty liver. Hgh is one of the safest PED’s, it’s also healthy and proven to reduce liver fat in people with hgh deficiency. However, it certain individuals with NAFLD who don’t metabolise FFA effectively, high hgh levels and the subsequent rise in FFA can increase fat deposition in the liver and cause inflammation and oxidative stress. So what I’m saying is that I already had fatty liver before starting the hgh and the hgh made it worse. I wish this is not the case as i want to resume taking the hgh
. I will do a liver test in 2 weeks and i will know the cause. Let’s hope it is not the hgh Attachments
Brother you still don't understand the study in the ones you have quoted the study is on pediatrics NON ALCHOHOLIC FATTY LIVER DISEASEDefinitely brother, hgh does not cause fatty liver. Hgh is one of the safest PED’s, it’s also healthy and proven to reduce liver fat in people with hgh deficiency. However, it certain individuals with NAFLD who don’t metabolise FFA effectively, high hgh levels and the subsequent rise in FFA can increase fat deposition in the liver and cause inflammation and oxidative stress. So what I’m saying is that I already had fatty liver before starting the hgh and the hgh made it worse. I wish this is not the case as i want to resume taking the hgh
The other excerpt you have tells us about lkver injury due to excess amounts of free fatty acid not mentioning once anything about HGH.
This is why the general public having access to studies can. Be dangerous as you are what we call looking for confirmation bias from small parts of studies ignoring the word Pediatric (in children) etc for example......
I still. Don't see what point you are trying to make it has just gone off the rails onto a strange and slightly incoherent tangent.
Maybe learn the basics of how to read studies before you start to try and unpack the meaning of dependant upregulation of proapoptotic BH3 leading to BAX activation etc.... Studies have to be fully understood in order to fully apply them to your situation not excerpts that you think you understand because it has words that makes sense to you in your own head at that point in time.
Train heavy, eat well, recover wholly use your supplements stop trying to be a scientist it's bodybuilding ffs its fun and physical and truly an amazing experience
Remeber the old adage K I S S
Keep
It
Simple
S.....
See look I can talk smart also but it's fucking exhausting like I'm a scholar but it doesnt make. Me smart I just sound like a tosser when I do it.
Brother, you are totally correct. You did not get my point. I’m not saying hgh causes all this. I used it for one month from another source with no issue. I only had slightly high alt after 15 days of using cialis. Cialis might be the cause of the issue. I went to two doctors and one of them mentioned that the supplement i used are the cause. Im not here trying to blame anyone or saying that hgh does this. Everyone’s body is different, some people get severe allergic reaction from food while others drink in large quantities with issues. I made this post first just to see if it is normal to see floating bits in the hgh, i did not even want to mention the vendor name. This was before doing my liver test. A month ago, everything was normal. The problem started since I started using the new hgh and the supplements and with the continued cialis. Regarding the second study, we all know that hgh causes lipolysis and releases FFA in the blood. And again, FFA in excess (in some individuals, not everyone) may cause (does not mean it will cause) oxidative stress (if not cleared properly). And you are right, it might be the confirmation bias, because Im only using gh, cialis and few supplements and my liver enzymes are in liver inflammation levels and im trying to find the reason why all this happening
You might be right. We leave this for now. I will be waiting for the new blood test and see
