Approved Log First cycle – Second iteration - Testosterone Masteron Winstrol Anavar -vascularity for the summer Log

[Ulter]

@Ulter thanks doing my best with the little knowledge I have but more importantly, want to keep the process enjoyable. Evo family helps me a lot with guidance


@ceo my splits tend to be old school but I like it. And if I don't enjoy it, I won't adhere to it. Next winter I'm finding a good gym to train legs. Mine is missing a few pieces of equipment I like such as belt squat.

@Masonic Bodybuilder thank you for your input. I'm really eager to get my blood work done next week and how the estrogen evolved after my dose adjustment 6 weeks ago.

that sounds like a plan

 

[2Thick]

@ROIDDERS @2Thick thank you guys Much appreciated!

EVO love

 

[haldencapital]

Well, two days ago I thought i had lost every tiny gained i made during the bulk. It was only the diet that started depleting.

I ate lots of carbs two days ago, slept like a baby and was able to crank the best back workout in a freaking while. Holy hell. Everything felt so good, I took the opportunity to do a more heavy volume while I have the energy and the food in my system to recover.

Like Vaillant says, the pump is the cure !! My right lat seems to be lagging a bit but I'm not the best at posing so i might just need to better open it up.

God, i love this sport so much! The ups and the downs. Pic dump from the office gym with no editing or filter from my patato cam. I should really invest in good lightening and camera gear lol

Next step is to shave the legs a bit and see what is under there. And see how i can improve my acne. Masteron is really bursting out the acne side effect

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Well, two days ago I thought i had lost every tiny gained i made during the bulk. It was only the diet that started depleting.

I ate lots of carbs two days ago, slept like a baby and was able to crank the best back workout in a freaking while. Holy hell. Everything felt so good, I took the opportunity to do a more heavy volume while I have the energy and the food in my system to recover.

Like Vaillant says, the pump is the cure !! My right lat seems to be lagging a bit but I'm not the best at posing so i might just need to better open it up.

God, i love this sport so much! The ups and the downs. Pic dump from the office gym with no editing or filter from my patato cam. I should really invest in good lightening and camera gear lol

Next step is to shave the legs a bit and see what is under there. And see how i can improve my acne. Masteron is really bursting out the acne side effect

you a beast broly you filled out in days THICK AF and big AF ripped @haldencapital

 

[haldencapital]

you a beast broly you filled out in days THICK AF and big AF ripped @haldencapital

@Npcclassicphysique champ thanks! And I really appreciate your input from 2-3 days ago when i was doubting myself. I was able to get out of my head and trust the process. It's not going to be linear so I might enjoy it regardless of how I look. I'm only a few hundred grams of carbs away from being full

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

@Npcclassicphysique champ thanks! And I really appreciate your input from 2-3 days ago when i was doubting myself. I was able to get out of my head and trust the process. It's not going to be linear so I might enjoy it regardless of how I look. I'm only a few hundred grams of carbs away from being full

you shouldnt doubt yourself broly you are hella ripped and strong

 

[Noah Wixx]

Weekly update.

Morning weight now down to 178 - 179 from 181 - 183.

I feel flat as hell. Honestly, by the feeling of it, i think i might have cut the testosterone too much. I was over-aromatizing at 200mg a week. Now that I'm saturated at a lower level of 140 mg a week, i look completely deflated. My bloodtest is on June 11th. I really wanted to see where my estrogen would fall at 140mg a week before doing any adjustement. 200mg was a 70 reading on estrogen. If 140mg yields below 30 i might crank it up a bit because i don't know what to expect really but i feel like i've lost a lot of size despite the weight being the around the same. I was looking very tight at 200mg a week and 70 estrogen... Like my profile picture. Now i just look flat and weak

Maybe I should just stop being a b*tch and run with a high estrogen level during my cycles... Am I tripping? lol First bulk and cut cycle. Lots to learn for next time.

New split :

Day 1: chest (incline BB press, flies, decline DB press), shoulders (mostly side laterals) and triceps (skullcrusher, dips). Abs
Day 2 : Legs (squats, legs extension, curls, split-squats). If leg press available, this is prioritized to save my back.
Day 3 : back (one arm DB row to grow my weaker and less develped lat, 25 lbs weighted pull-ups, v-bar row or Meadows rows (RIP John) and biceps (curls)
Day 4: rest/abs
Repeat

Mountain biking season has started. By being an ex-competitive cyclist I know that this means I will lose most of my leg muscles again this summer. I just cannot help it. No leg picture for today, i need to shave. With 2 inches of hair, there is nothing to see there lol

Diet : 2000-2100 calories as of now. With 235 gr of protein. Chicken, greek yogourt, ground beef, egg whites, whey. 35 gr of fats mostly eggs and olive oil. Rest is carbs on pre-workout meal such as oatmeal and whey.

I don't plan, unless an emergency, to work 16h a day anymore. So, caloric deficit should start now. 6 weeks late but better now than never.

Really waiting for blood levels in about 10 days to adjust the testosterone. After the results are in, i'll get the orals and start running them for the last 8 weeks. I expect most of the results to come in this 2 month time. I will keep using 300 mg of masteron a week until the end of the 8 weeks.

Pictures of this morning, no pump, no food, no filter. :/ Nothing too impressive. Crazy how the testosterone adjustment i made seemed to have killed the train from going...

U sure as hell dont look fucking flat at all lol maybe in your head brother.

 

[ballin2504]

Weekly update.

Morning weight now down to 178 - 179 from 181 - 183.

I feel flat as hell. Honestly, by the feeling of it, i think i might have cut the testosterone too much. I was over-aromatizing at 200mg a week. Now that I'm saturated at a lower level of 140 mg a week, i look completely deflated. My bloodtest is on June 11th. I really wanted to see where my estrogen would fall at 140mg a week before doing any adjustement. 200mg was a 70 reading on estrogen. If 140mg yields below 30 i might crank it up a bit because i don't know what to expect really but i feel like i've lost a lot of size despite the weight being the around the same. I was looking very tight at 200mg a week and 70 estrogen... Like my profile picture. Now i just look flat and weak

Maybe I should just stop being a b*tch and run with a high estrogen level during my cycles... Am I tripping? lol First bulk and cut cycle. Lots to learn for next time.

New split :

Day 1: chest (incline BB press, flies, decline DB press), shoulders (mostly side laterals) and triceps (skullcrusher, dips). Abs
Day 2 : Legs (squats, legs extension, curls, split-squats). If leg press available, this is prioritized to save my back.
Day 3 : back (one arm DB row to grow my weaker and less develped lat, 25 lbs weighted pull-ups, v-bar row or Meadows rows (RIP John) and biceps (curls)
Day 4: rest/abs
Repeat

Mountain biking season has started. By being an ex-competitive cyclist I know that this means I will lose most of my leg muscles again this summer. I just cannot help it. No leg picture for today, i need to shave. With 2 inches of hair, there is nothing to see there lol

Diet : 2000-2100 calories as of now. With 235 gr of protein. Chicken, greek yogourt, ground beef, egg whites, whey. 35 gr of fats mostly eggs and olive oil. Rest is carbs on pre-workout meal such as oatmeal and whey.

I don't plan, unless an emergency, to work 16h a day anymore. So, caloric deficit should start now. 6 weeks late but better now than never.

Really waiting for blood levels in about 10 days to adjust the testosterone. After the results are in, i'll get the orals and start running them for the last 8 weeks. I expect most of the results to come in this 2 month time. I will keep using 300 mg of masteron a week until the end of the 8 weeks.

Pictures of this morning, no pump, no food, no filter. :/ Nothing too impressive. Crazy how the testosterone adjustment i made seemed to have killed the train from going...

@haldencapital looking phenomenal man. Way to kill it.

 

[haldencapital]

U sure as hell dont look fucking flat at all lol maybe in your head brother.

@Noah Wixx most definitely in my head

@haldencapital looking phenomenal man. Way to kill it.

@ballin2504 thank you boss

 

[25homes]

Good update

 

[haldencapital]

Got the bloodwork done yesterday. Should have the results early next week and will be able to see where i stand at in order to get the orals and adjust the dosing of my inectables if required.

So far, i inject twice a week. i've been on 140 mg of test cyp per week and now at 300 mg of masteron since last week. I didn't lose much weight, my hunger is up probably due to masteron. I'm having a hard time being in a deficit, like if i was fighting the anabolic that wants me to keep growing. Even though i did not lose weight, i look tighther. So i guess the weight does not matter as much. I'm trying to curb my hunger down with 8 mg of ephedrine per day, one pill. This is like clen, the effect will taper off in a few days but i'll take the help while i can. I really want to be in a steady deficit before starting the orals.

8 weeks oral:

- 40 mg anavar per day on training day;
- 40 mg winstrol per day on training day (or would 20 mg be enough?)
- 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, total of 6 weeks on clen at a 25 mcg to 75 mcg dose per day.

Quick picture of the legs. I have too much hair to show any definition, but i think they grew a bit since February. Nothing too impressive, but for a 180 lbs frame, i think it's ok.

 

[LevButlerov]

Got the bloodwork done yesterday. Should have the results early next week and will be able to see where i stand at in order to get the orals and adjust the dosing of my inectables if required.

So far, i inject twice a week. i've been on 140 mg of test cyp per week and now at 300 mg of masteron since last week. I didn't lose much weight, my hunger is up probably due to masteron. I'm having a hard time being in a deficit, like if i was fighting the anabolic that wants me to keep growing. Even though i did not lose weight, i look tighther. So i guess the weight does not matter as much. I'm trying to curb my hunger down with 8 mg of ephedrine per day, one pill. This is like clen, the effect will taper off in a few days but i'll take the help while i can. I really want to be in a steady deficit before starting the orals.

8 weeks oral:

- 40 mg anavar per day on training day;
- 40 mg winstrol per day on training day (or would 20 mg be enough?)
- 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, total of 6 weeks on clen at a 25 mcg to 75 mcg dose per day.

Quick picture of the legs. I have too much hair to show any definition, but i think they grew a bit since February. Nothing too impressive, but for a 180 lbs frame, i think it's ok.

Will be waiting on your bloods. int he meantime the legs look good, actually growing nicely. @haldencapital
The winstrol, 40mgs is a better dose for you imo on training days and 20mgs off the days.

 

[RoySimpson]

Got the bloodwork done yesterday. Should have the results early next week and will be able to see where i stand at in order to get the orals and adjust the dosing of my inectables if required.

So far, i inject twice a week. i've been on 140 mg of test cyp per week and now at 300 mg of masteron since last week. I didn't lose much weight, my hunger is up probably due to masteron. I'm having a hard time being in a deficit, like if i was fighting the anabolic that wants me to keep growing. Even though i did not lose weight, i look tighther. So i guess the weight does not matter as much. I'm trying to curb my hunger down with 8 mg of ephedrine per day, one pill. This is like clen, the effect will taper off in a few days but i'll take the help while i can. I really want to be in a steady deficit before starting the orals.

8 weeks oral:

- 40 mg anavar per day on training day;
- 40 mg winstrol per day on training day (or would 20 mg be enough?)
- 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, total of 6 weeks on clen at a 25 mcg to 75 mcg dose per day.

Quick picture of the legs. I have too much hair to show any definition, but i think they grew a bit since February. Nothing too impressive, but for a 180 lbs frame, i think it's ok.

@haldencapital legs are looking brolic bro awesome work right here!!

 

[Mobster]

Got the bloodwork done yesterday. Should have the results early next week and will be able to see where i stand at in order to get the orals and adjust the dosing of my inectables if required.

So far, i inject twice a week. i've been on 140 mg of test cyp per week and now at 300 mg of masteron since last week. I didn't lose much weight, my hunger is up probably due to masteron. I'm having a hard time being in a deficit, like if i was fighting the anabolic that wants me to keep growing. Even though i did not lose weight, i look tighther. So i guess the weight does not matter as much. I'm trying to curb my hunger down with 8 mg of ephedrine per day, one pill. This is like clen, the effect will taper off in a few days but i'll take the help while i can. I really want to be in a steady deficit before starting the orals.

8 weeks oral:

- 40 mg anavar per day on training day;
- 40 mg winstrol per day on training day (or would 20 mg be enough?)
- 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, total of 6 weeks on clen at a 25 mcg to 75 mcg dose per day.

Quick picture of the legs. I have too much hair to show any definition, but i think they grew a bit since February. Nothing too impressive, but for a 180 lbs frame, i think it's ok.

There might be a little recomping going on

 

[stevesmi]

Got the bloodwork done yesterday. Should have the results early next week and will be able to see where i stand at in order to get the orals and adjust the dosing of my inectables if required.

So far, i inject twice a week. i've been on 140 mg of test cyp per week and now at 300 mg of masteron since last week. I didn't lose much weight, my hunger is up probably due to masteron. I'm having a hard time being in a deficit, like if i was fighting the anabolic that wants me to keep growing. Even though i did not lose weight, i look tighther. So i guess the weight does not matter as much. I'm trying to curb my hunger down with 8 mg of ephedrine per day, one pill. This is like clen, the effect will taper off in a few days but i'll take the help while i can. I really want to be in a steady deficit before starting the orals.

8 weeks oral:

- 40 mg anavar per day on training day;
- 40 mg winstrol per day on training day (or would 20 mg be enough?)
- 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, total of 6 weeks on clen at a 25 mcg to 75 mcg dose per day.

Quick picture of the legs. I have too much hair to show any definition, but i think they grew a bit since February. Nothing too impressive, but for a 180 lbs frame, i think it's ok.

@haldencapital i like winstrol lower personally
i have always found 25mgs is better as the sides are less
but it is your choice try both ways

 

[Ulter]

Got the bloodwork done yesterday. Should have the results early next week and will be able to see where i stand at in order to get the orals and adjust the dosing of my inectables if required.

So far, i inject twice a week. i've been on 140 mg of test cyp per week and now at 300 mg of masteron since last week. I didn't lose much weight, my hunger is up probably due to masteron. I'm having a hard time being in a deficit, like if i was fighting the anabolic that wants me to keep growing. Even though i did not lose weight, i look tighther. So i guess the weight does not matter as much. I'm trying to curb my hunger down with 8 mg of ephedrine per day, one pill. This is like clen, the effect will taper off in a few days but i'll take the help while i can. I really want to be in a steady deficit before starting the orals.

8 weeks oral:

- 40 mg anavar per day on training day;
- 40 mg winstrol per day on training day (or would 20 mg be enough?)
- 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, total of 6 weeks on clen at a 25 mcg to 75 mcg dose per day.

Quick picture of the legs. I have too much hair to show any definition, but i think they grew a bit since February. Nothing too impressive, but for a 180 lbs frame, i think it's ok.

8 week oral hit will tighten you up nicely
you sure you want to hit the clen? why not do some GLP1?

@haldencapital

 

[haldencapital]

@haldencapital legs are looking brolic bro awesome work right here!!

@RoySimpson thank you boss ! Next winter, i will increase training volume on the legs. Impossible to do it in the summer with mountain biking but i want to grow these legs. Always been a challenge but i'm up for it

 

[haldencapital]

8 week oral hit will tighten you up nicely
you sure you want to hit the clen? why not do some GLP1?

@haldencapital

@Ulter clen is a love hate relationship. It works like nothing else i've tried. DO i like the side effects like no sleep and nasty cramps. Hell no... GLP1 as Ozempic I really don't know how to get this stuff in Canada honestly.

 

[haldencapital]

Will be waiting on your bloods. int he meantime the legs look good, actually growing nicely. @haldencapital
The winstrol, 40mgs is a better dose for you imo on training days and 20mgs off the days.

@haldencapital i like winstrol lower personally
i have always found 25mgs is better as the sides are less
but it is your choice try both ways

@LevButlerov @stevesmi since i've never tried winstrol before, as opposed to clen, I'll start with 20 mg to see how i feel and how much sides i get. Then ramp up if only required. If i get get away with the minimal effective dose i'll do it.

 

[haldencapital]

Bloodwork update. It only took 24h for the doc to send it to me. That was way quicker than usual.

Last reading was from April 17th. I was only using testosterone cypionate. I had been running it for 8 weeks prior at an average of 160 mg a week with a peak dose of 200mg the week before the reading. Estrogen was very high at 69.5 pg/ml.

After the reading in an attempt to lower estrogen, I decided to lower the dose to 140 mg a week. I added masteron with an average dose of 250 mg a week for the 8 weeks leading to the new reading with a peak dose of 300 mg the week before the reading. I also added 6.25 mg of aromasin per week.

Now, the reading comes in. I thought that masteron did not aromatize, that it would be neutral. It might be right. I thought that lowering the dose of test with 6.25 mg of aromasin would have somewhat reduced estrogen. At least a bit!

Well, i'm surprised to say that my estrogen, despite all that, did not move one bit Still at 69.

I'm a bit lost but this high estrogen is most certainly why i have a hard time controlling my hunger.

Now, is there a point of even running test over 75 mg a week with an estrogen this high? Just thinking of keeping the masteron as is, taking 75 - 100 mg a week of test and maybe take 6.25 mg of aromasin twice a week instead of once a week. I'll be done with this cycle within 8-10 weeks anyway, so i know i'm gonna have to reduce the test sooner or later. I might be able to live with the estrogen this high for the 8-10 weeks, but it will have to go down at some point.

The problem here is that the doc did not request estradiol in the bloodtests prior to me jumping on gear after I started my TRT a year ago. The estradiol could have been higher than normal from a base level... That i don't know.

 

[stevesmi]

@LevButlerov @stevesmi since i've never tried winstrol before, as opposed to clen, I'll start with 20 mg to see how i feel and how much sides i get. Then ramp up if only required. If i get get away with the minimal effective dose i'll do it.

thats a good idea. watch out for hair loss and joints

 

[haldencapital]

Bloodwork update. It only took 24h for the doc to send it to me. That was way quicker than usual.

Last reading was from April 17th. I was only using testosterone cypionate. I had been running it for 8 weeks prior at an average of 160 mg a week with a peak dose of 200mg the week before the reading. Estrogen was very high at 69.5 pg/ml.

After the reading in an attempt to lower estrogen, I decided to lower the dose to 140 mg a week. I added masteron with an average dose of 250 mg a week for the 8 weeks leading to the new reading with a peak dose of 300 mg the week before the reading. I also added 6.25 mg of aromasin per week.

Now, the reading comes in. I thought that masteron did not aromatize, that it would be neutral. It might be right. I thought that lowering the dose of test with 6.25 mg of aromasin would have somewhat reduced estrogen. At least a bit!

Well, i'm surprised to say that my estrogen, despite all that, did not move one bit Still at 69.

I'm a bit lost but this high estrogen is most certainly why i have a hard time controlling my hunger.

Now, is there a point of even running test over 75 mg a week with an estrogen this high? Just thinking of keeping the masteron as is, taking 75 - 100 mg a week of test and maybe take 6.25 mg of aromasin twice a week instead of once a week. I'll be done with this cycle within 8-10 weeks anyway, so i know i'm gonna have to reduce the test sooner or later. I might be able to live with the estrogen this high for the 8-10 weeks, but it will have to go down at some point.

The problem here is that the doc did not request estradiol in the bloodtests prior to me jumping on gear after I started my TRT a year ago. The estradiol could have been higher than normal from a base level... That i don't know.


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oops, seems i cannot edit the post no more so i'll add it here. In fact, the testosterone dose is probably not the issue here, in the bodybuilding context. Estrogen is. The aromasin baby dose i had, 6.25 mg a week, might simply be too low. I went low because i don't want to block 95% of the estrogen. 25mg a day seems to achieve that clinically. So, might be sound to keep testosterone as is, but take 12.5 mg of aromasin every other day?

 

[BodyMonster34]

Got the bloodwork done yesterday. Should have the results early next week and will be able to see where i stand at in order to get the orals and adjust the dosing of my inectables if required.

So far, i inject twice a week. i've been on 140 mg of test cyp per week and now at 300 mg of masteron since last week. I didn't lose much weight, my hunger is up probably due to masteron. I'm having a hard time being in a deficit, like if i was fighting the anabolic that wants me to keep growing. Even though i did not lose weight, i look tighther. So i guess the weight does not matter as much. I'm trying to curb my hunger down with 8 mg of ephedrine per day, one pill. This is like clen, the effect will taper off in a few days but i'll take the help while i can. I really want to be in a steady deficit before starting the orals.

8 weeks oral:

- 40 mg anavar per day on training day;
- 40 mg winstrol per day on training day (or would 20 mg be enough?)
- 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, total of 6 weeks on clen at a 25 mcg to 75 mcg dose per day.

Quick picture of the legs. I have too much hair to show any definition, but i think they grew a bit since February. Nothing too impressive, but for a 180 lbs frame, i think it's ok.

Bro, your legs look really strong.
8 week orals not bad. how about doing some superdrol or halo if you a real man?

@haldencapital

 

[2Thick]

Got the bloodwork done yesterday. Should have the results early next week and will be able to see where i stand at in order to get the orals and adjust the dosing of my inectables if required.

So far, i inject twice a week. i've been on 140 mg of test cyp per week and now at 300 mg of masteron since last week. I didn't lose much weight, my hunger is up probably due to masteron. I'm having a hard time being in a deficit, like if i was fighting the anabolic that wants me to keep growing. Even though i did not lose weight, i look tighther. So i guess the weight does not matter as much. I'm trying to curb my hunger down with 8 mg of ephedrine per day, one pill. This is like clen, the effect will taper off in a few days but i'll take the help while i can. I really want to be in a steady deficit before starting the orals.

8 weeks oral:

- 40 mg anavar per day on training day;
- 40 mg winstrol per day on training day (or would 20 mg be enough?)
- 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, total of 6 weeks on clen at a 25 mcg to 75 mcg dose per day.

Quick picture of the legs. I have too much hair to show any definition, but i think they grew a bit since February. Nothing too impressive, but for a 180 lbs frame, i think it's ok.

140mgs of test cyp and 300mgs of masteron from last week is good
you don't need crazy gear to build a nice physique
ephedrine will kill appetite yes but watch your heart health taking it

@haldencapital

 

[ceo]

Got the bloodwork done yesterday. Should have the results early next week and will be able to see where i stand at in order to get the orals and adjust the dosing of my inectables if required.

So far, i inject twice a week. i've been on 140 mg of test cyp per week and now at 300 mg of masteron since last week. I didn't lose much weight, my hunger is up probably due to masteron. I'm having a hard time being in a deficit, like if i was fighting the anabolic that wants me to keep growing. Even though i did not lose weight, i look tighther. So i guess the weight does not matter as much. I'm trying to curb my hunger down with 8 mg of ephedrine per day, one pill. This is like clen, the effect will taper off in a few days but i'll take the help while i can. I really want to be in a steady deficit before starting the orals.

8 weeks oral:

- 40 mg anavar per day on training day;
- 40 mg winstrol per day on training day (or would 20 mg be enough?)
- 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, total of 6 weeks on clen at a 25 mcg to 75 mcg dose per day.

Quick picture of the legs. I have too much hair to show any definition, but i think they grew a bit since February. Nothing too impressive, but for a 180 lbs frame, i think it's ok.

@haldencapital bros this is a damn good layout
good anavar and winstrol on this
A++ work. keep it going

 

[ROIDDERS]

Got the bloodwork done yesterday. Should have the results early next week and will be able to see where i stand at in order to get the orals and adjust the dosing of my inectables if required.

So far, i inject twice a week. i've been on 140 mg of test cyp per week and now at 300 mg of masteron since last week. I didn't lose much weight, my hunger is up probably due to masteron. I'm having a hard time being in a deficit, like if i was fighting the anabolic that wants me to keep growing. Even though i did not lose weight, i look tighther. So i guess the weight does not matter as much. I'm trying to curb my hunger down with 8 mg of ephedrine per day, one pill. This is like clen, the effect will taper off in a few days but i'll take the help while i can. I really want to be in a steady deficit before starting the orals.

8 weeks oral:

- 40 mg anavar per day on training day;
- 40 mg winstrol per day on training day (or would 20 mg be enough?)
- 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, total of 6 weeks on clen at a 25 mcg to 75 mcg dose per day.

Quick picture of the legs. I have too much hair to show any definition, but i think they grew a bit since February. Nothing too impressive, but for a 180 lbs frame, i think it's ok.

40mgs var and 40mgs winstrol is very strong
gonna really harden up on this as you go. i used ephedrine years ago. didn't really like it messed with my sleep too much

@haldencapital

 

[LevButlerov]

Bloodwork update. It only took 24h for the doc to send it to me. That was way quicker than usual.

Last reading was from April 17th. I was only using testosterone cypionate. I had been running it for 8 weeks prior at an average of 160 mg a week with a peak dose of 200mg the week before the reading. Estrogen was very high at 69.5 pg/ml.

After the reading in an attempt to lower estrogen, I decided to lower the dose to 140 mg a week. I added masteron with an average dose of 250 mg a week for the 8 weeks leading to the new reading with a peak dose of 300 mg the week before the reading. I also added 6.25 mg of aromasin per week.

Now, the reading comes in. I thought that masteron did not aromatize, that it would be neutral. It might be right. I thought that lowering the dose of test with 6.25 mg of aromasin would have somewhat reduced estrogen. At least a bit!

Well, i'm surprised to say that my estrogen, despite all that, did not move one bit Still at 69.

I'm a bit lost but this high estrogen is most certainly why i have a hard time controlling my hunger.

Now, is there a point of even running test over 75 mg a week with an estrogen this high? Just thinking of keeping the masteron as is, taking 75 - 100 mg a week of test and maybe take 6.25 mg of aromasin twice a week instead of once a week. I'll be done with this cycle within 8-10 weeks anyway, so i know i'm gonna have to reduce the test sooner or later. I might be able to live with the estrogen this high for the 8-10 weeks, but it will have to go down at some point.

The problem here is that the doc did not request estradiol in the bloodtests prior to me jumping on gear after I started my TRT a year ago. The estradiol could have been higher than normal from a base level... That i don't know.


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@haldencapital nothing to worry about here. Lets move to 12mgs aromasin EOD to start off.

And your total test is still high so not bad at all.

 

[haldencapital]

@haldencapital nothing to worry about here. Lets move to 12mgs aromasin EOD to start off.

And your total test is still high so not bad at all.

@LevButlerov thanks boss

yes, after reflecting on the facts the only adjustment is the aromasin. I know this stuff is strong and I went very cautiously at first.

One pill of 12.5 mg every other day starting tomorrow should yield results. The good thing is that it reaches full efficacy fast so it should help with my hunger. Estrogen never been this high, hunger never been this high so there is got to be a relationship. No way I can shed weight without fasting right now, this is how pregnant women must feel.

 

[haldencapital]

40mgs var and 40mgs winstrol is very strong
gonna really harden up on this as you go. i used ephedrine years ago. didn't really like it messed with my sleep too much

@haldencapital

@ROIDDERS now that my blood test is out and that I still see high estrogen on deck, ephedrine is not required. It's my aromasin dose that was way too low. I'm sure the hunger comes from the high estrogen, I've never been this hungry all the time. I'll attempt to reach a middle ground and control my hunger this way. I can't sleep on ephedrine and it gives my severe anxiety.

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov thanks boss

yes, after reflecting on the facts the only adjustment is the aromasin. I know this stuff is strong and I went very cautiously at first.

One pill of 12.5 mg every other day starting tomorrow should yield results. The good thing is that it reaches full efficacy fast so it should help with my hunger. Estrogen never been this high, hunger never been this high so there is got to be a relationship. No way I can shed weight without fasting right now, this is how pregnant women must feel.

If you have tamoxifen on hand, add 10mgs eod too if not no issues.

 

[stevesmi]

Bloodwork update. It only took 24h for the doc to send it to me. That was way quicker than usual.

Last reading was from April 17th. I was only using testosterone cypionate. I had been running it for 8 weeks prior at an average of 160 mg a week with a peak dose of 200mg the week before the reading. Estrogen was very high at 69.5 pg/ml.

After the reading in an attempt to lower estrogen, I decided to lower the dose to 140 mg a week. I added masteron with an average dose of 250 mg a week for the 8 weeks leading to the new reading with a peak dose of 300 mg the week before the reading. I also added 6.25 mg of aromasin per week.

Now, the reading comes in. I thought that masteron did not aromatize, that it would be neutral. It might be right. I thought that lowering the dose of test with 6.25 mg of aromasin would have somewhat reduced estrogen. At least a bit!

Well, i'm surprised to say that my estrogen, despite all that, did not move one bit Still at 69.

I'm a bit lost but this high estrogen is most certainly why i have a hard time controlling my hunger.

Now, is there a point of even running test over 75 mg a week with an estrogen this high? Just thinking of keeping the masteron as is, taking 75 - 100 mg a week of test and maybe take 6.25 mg of aromasin twice a week instead of once a week. I'll be done with this cycle within 8-10 weeks anyway, so i know i'm gonna have to reduce the test sooner or later. I might be able to live with the estrogen this high for the 8-10 weeks, but it will have to go down at some point.

The problem here is that the doc did not request estradiol in the bloodtests prior to me jumping on gear after I started my TRT a year ago. The estradiol could have been higher than normal from a base level... That i don't know.


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wow that is great your doctor is so quick with the response.
the bloodwork does not lie man. but it can be volatile but adjust as needed
@haldencapital

 

[ROIDDERS]

Bloodwork update. It only took 24h for the doc to send it to me. That was way quicker than usual.

Last reading was from April 17th. I was only using testosterone cypionate. I had been running it for 8 weeks prior at an average of 160 mg a week with a peak dose of 200mg the week before the reading. Estrogen was very high at 69.5 pg/ml.

After the reading in an attempt to lower estrogen, I decided to lower the dose to 140 mg a week. I added masteron with an average dose of 250 mg a week for the 8 weeks leading to the new reading with a peak dose of 300 mg the week before the reading. I also added 6.25 mg of aromasin per week.

Now, the reading comes in. I thought that masteron did not aromatize, that it would be neutral. It might be right. I thought that lowering the dose of test with 6.25 mg of aromasin would have somewhat reduced estrogen. At least a bit!

Well, i'm surprised to say that my estrogen, despite all that, did not move one bit Still at 69.

I'm a bit lost but this high estrogen is most certainly why i have a hard time controlling my hunger.

Now, is there a point of even running test over 75 mg a week with an estrogen this high? Just thinking of keeping the masteron as is, taking 75 - 100 mg a week of test and maybe take 6.25 mg of aromasin twice a week instead of once a week. I'll be done with this cycle within 8-10 weeks anyway, so i know i'm gonna have to reduce the test sooner or later. I might be able to live with the estrogen this high for the 8-10 weeks, but it will have to go down at some point.

The problem here is that the doc did not request estradiol in the bloodtests prior to me jumping on gear after I started my TRT a year ago. The estradiol could have been higher than normal from a base level... That i don't know.


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you won't go wrong with this update man. the numbers are right there for you to see. Now, you can adjust things.

@haldencapital

 

[ROIDDERS]

@ROIDDERS now that my blood test is out and that I still see high estrogen on deck, ephedrine is not required. It's my aromasin dose that was way too low. I'm sure the hunger comes from the high estrogen, I've never been this hungry all the time. I'll attempt to reach a middle ground and control my hunger this way. I can't sleep on ephedrine and it gives my severe anxiety.

good to hear

 

[Mobster]

Starting with the positive - great to get it back so quickly

 

[2Thick]

Bloodwork update. It only took 24h for the doc to send it to me. That was way quicker than usual.

Last reading was from April 17th. I was only using testosterone cypionate. I had been running it for 8 weeks prior at an average of 160 mg a week with a peak dose of 200mg the week before the reading. Estrogen was very high at 69.5 pg/ml.

After the reading in an attempt to lower estrogen, I decided to lower the dose to 140 mg a week. I added masteron with an average dose of 250 mg a week for the 8 weeks leading to the new reading with a peak dose of 300 mg the week before the reading. I also added 6.25 mg of aromasin per week.

Now, the reading comes in. I thought that masteron did not aromatize, that it would be neutral. It might be right. I thought that lowering the dose of test with 6.25 mg of aromasin would have somewhat reduced estrogen. At least a bit!

Well, i'm surprised to say that my estrogen, despite all that, did not move one bit Still at 69.

I'm a bit lost but this high estrogen is most certainly why i have a hard time controlling my hunger.

Now, is there a point of even running test over 75 mg a week with an estrogen this high? Just thinking of keeping the masteron as is, taking 75 - 100 mg a week of test and maybe take 6.25 mg of aromasin twice a week instead of once a week. I'll be done with this cycle within 8-10 weeks anyway, so i know i'm gonna have to reduce the test sooner or later. I might be able to live with the estrogen this high for the 8-10 weeks, but it will have to go down at some point.

The problem here is that the doc did not request estradiol in the bloodtests prior to me jumping on gear after I started my TRT a year ago. The estradiol could have been higher than normal from a base level... That i don't know.


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the bloodwork looks good overall. estrogen can be complicated sometimes, but don't panic. worst case you can always slam letro to get it down easily but i don't think we are there yet
@haldencapital

 

[BodyMonster34]

Bloodwork update. It only took 24h for the doc to send it to me. That was way quicker than usual.

Last reading was from April 17th. I was only using testosterone cypionate. I had been running it for 8 weeks prior at an average of 160 mg a week with a peak dose of 200mg the week before the reading. Estrogen was very high at 69.5 pg/ml.

After the reading in an attempt to lower estrogen, I decided to lower the dose to 140 mg a week. I added masteron with an average dose of 250 mg a week for the 8 weeks leading to the new reading with a peak dose of 300 mg the week before the reading. I also added 6.25 mg of aromasin per week.

Now, the reading comes in. I thought that masteron did not aromatize, that it would be neutral. It might be right. I thought that lowering the dose of test with 6.25 mg of aromasin would have somewhat reduced estrogen. At least a bit!

Well, i'm surprised to say that my estrogen, despite all that, did not move one bit Still at 69.

I'm a bit lost but this high estrogen is most certainly why i have a hard time controlling my hunger.

Now, is there a point of even running test over 75 mg a week with an estrogen this high? Just thinking of keeping the masteron as is, taking 75 - 100 mg a week of test and maybe take 6.25 mg of aromasin twice a week instead of once a week. I'll be done with this cycle within 8-10 weeks anyway, so i know i'm gonna have to reduce the test sooner or later. I might be able to live with the estrogen this high for the 8-10 weeks, but it will have to go down at some point.

The problem here is that the doc did not request estradiol in the bloodtests prior to me jumping on gear after I started my TRT a year ago. The estradiol could have been higher than normal from a base level... That i don't know.


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@haldencapital bro my estrogen stay high cause i on tren year round. tren mess with E number
so if you ever use tren you remember that

 

[Ulter]

@Ulter clen is a love hate relationship. It works like nothing else i've tried. DO i like the side effects like no sleep and nasty cramps. Hell no... GLP1 as Ozempic I really don't know how to get this stuff in Canada honestly.

retatrutide or tirzepatide. i'm sure the canada sponsors sell it
you will love it

 

[Ulter]

Bloodwork update. It only took 24h for the doc to send it to me. That was way quicker than usual.

Last reading was from April 17th. I was only using testosterone cypionate. I had been running it for 8 weeks prior at an average of 160 mg a week with a peak dose of 200mg the week before the reading. Estrogen was very high at 69.5 pg/ml.

After the reading in an attempt to lower estrogen, I decided to lower the dose to 140 mg a week. I added masteron with an average dose of 250 mg a week for the 8 weeks leading to the new reading with a peak dose of 300 mg the week before the reading. I also added 6.25 mg of aromasin per week.

Now, the reading comes in. I thought that masteron did not aromatize, that it would be neutral. It might be right. I thought that lowering the dose of test with 6.25 mg of aromasin would have somewhat reduced estrogen. At least a bit!

Well, i'm surprised to say that my estrogen, despite all that, did not move one bit Still at 69.

I'm a bit lost but this high estrogen is most certainly why i have a hard time controlling my hunger.

Now, is there a point of even running test over 75 mg a week with an estrogen this high? Just thinking of keeping the masteron as is, taking 75 - 100 mg a week of test and maybe take 6.25 mg of aromasin twice a week instead of once a week. I'll be done with this cycle within 8-10 weeks anyway, so i know i'm gonna have to reduce the test sooner or later. I might be able to live with the estrogen this high for the 8-10 weeks, but it will have to go down at some point.

The problem here is that the doc did not request estradiol in the bloodtests prior to me jumping on gear after I started my TRT a year ago. The estradiol could have been higher than normal from a base level... That i don't know.


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@haldencapital it might not have had enough time to really work with the masteron
that could be the issue here
i would try some letro if you can't get it down

 

[haldencapital]

the bloodwork looks good overall. estrogen can be complicated sometimes, but don't panic. worst case you can always slam letro to get it down easily but i don't think we are there yet
@haldencapital

I'll schedule a blood test before the usual 8 weeks mark and follow it closely after the aromasin adjustment. And yes, ephedrine is out of the window now that I have the blood test results and that I can probably be somewhat sure the hunger comes from the high estrogen, I've never been this hungry all the time. I'll attempt to reach a middle ground and control my hunger this way. I can't sleep on ephedrine and it gives my severe anxiety. @2Thick

retatrutide or tirzepatide. i'm sure the canada sponsors sell it
you will love it

@haldencapital it might not have had enough time to really work with the masteron
that could be the issue here
i would try some letro if you can't get it down

I'll look up the sponsors. Retatrutide looks very strong. @Ulter

Could be. But 6 mg a week of aromasin was mostly nothing too. Haha! It's fairly strong so i always tend to start lower to have the ability to raise the dose later. Crashing the E2 by snacking on it would be another set of problems, i want to avoid. Slowly i'll get the sweet spot.

 

[ceo]

Bloodwork update. It only took 24h for the doc to send it to me. That was way quicker than usual.

Last reading was from April 17th. I was only using testosterone cypionate. I had been running it for 8 weeks prior at an average of 160 mg a week with a peak dose of 200mg the week before the reading. Estrogen was very high at 69.5 pg/ml.

After the reading in an attempt to lower estrogen, I decided to lower the dose to 140 mg a week. I added masteron with an average dose of 250 mg a week for the 8 weeks leading to the new reading with a peak dose of 300 mg the week before the reading. I also added 6.25 mg of aromasin per week.

Now, the reading comes in. I thought that masteron did not aromatize, that it would be neutral. It might be right. I thought that lowering the dose of test with 6.25 mg of aromasin would have somewhat reduced estrogen. At least a bit!

Well, i'm surprised to say that my estrogen, despite all that, did not move one bit Still at 69.

I'm a bit lost but this high estrogen is most certainly why i have a hard time controlling my hunger.

Now, is there a point of even running test over 75 mg a week with an estrogen this high? Just thinking of keeping the masteron as is, taking 75 - 100 mg a week of test and maybe take 6.25 mg of aromasin twice a week instead of once a week. I'll be done with this cycle within 8-10 weeks anyway, so i know i'm gonna have to reduce the test sooner or later. I might be able to live with the estrogen this high for the 8-10 weeks, but it will have to go down at some point.

The problem here is that the doc did not request estradiol in the bloodtests prior to me jumping on gear after I started my TRT a year ago. The estradiol could have been higher than normal from a base level... That i don't know.


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you won't go wrong with keeping estrogen upper limit. but you don't want it over the top either
high estrogen can end up with gyno sneak up on you. i had it long time ago and no fun

@haldencapital

 

[2Thick]

I'll schedule a blood test before the usual 8 weeks mark and follow it closely after the aromasin adjustment. And yes, ephedrine is out of the window now that I have the blood test results and that I can probably be somewhat sure the hunger comes from the high estrogen, I've never been this hungry all the time. I'll attempt to reach a middle ground and control my hunger this way. I can't sleep on ephedrine and it gives my severe anxiety. @2Thick



I'll look up the sponsors. Retatrutide looks very strong. @Ulter

Could be. But 6 mg a week of aromasin was mostly nothing too. Haha! It's fairly strong so i always tend to start lower to have the ability to raise the dose later. Crashing the E2 by snacking on it would be another set of problems, i want to avoid. Slowly i'll get the sweet spot.

ephedrine is outdated.

look at the GLP-1's

 

[Ulter]

I'll schedule a blood test before the usual 8 weeks mark and follow it closely after the aromasin adjustment. And yes, ephedrine is out of the window now that I have the blood test results and that I can probably be somewhat sure the hunger comes from the high estrogen, I've never been this hungry all the time. I'll attempt to reach a middle ground and control my hunger this way. I can't sleep on ephedrine and it gives my severe anxiety. @2Thick



I'll look up the sponsors. Retatrutide looks very strong. @Ulter

Could be. But 6 mg a week of aromasin was mostly nothing too. Haha! It's fairly strong so i always tend to start lower to have the ability to raise the dose later. Crashing the E2 by snacking on it would be another set of problems, i want to avoid. Slowly i'll get the sweet spot.

look into them

 

[ballin2504]

Got the bloodwork done yesterday. Should have the results early next week and will be able to see where i stand at in order to get the orals and adjust the dosing of my inectables if required.

So far, i inject twice a week. i've been on 140 mg of test cyp per week and now at 300 mg of masteron since last week. I didn't lose much weight, my hunger is up probably due to masteron. I'm having a hard time being in a deficit, like if i was fighting the anabolic that wants me to keep growing. Even though i did not lose weight, i look tighther. So i guess the weight does not matter as much. I'm trying to curb my hunger down with 8 mg of ephedrine per day, one pill. This is like clen, the effect will taper off in a few days but i'll take the help while i can. I really want to be in a steady deficit before starting the orals.

8 weeks oral:

- 40 mg anavar per day on training day;
- 40 mg winstrol per day on training day (or would 20 mg be enough?)
- 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, total of 6 weeks on clen at a 25 mcg to 75 mcg dose per day.

Quick picture of the legs. I have too much hair to show any definition, but i think they grew a bit since February. Nothing too impressive, but for a 180 lbs frame, i think it's ok.

@haldencapital legs are coming in nicely

 

[ballin2504]

Bloodwork update. It only took 24h for the doc to send it to me. That was way quicker than usual.

Last reading was from April 17th. I was only using testosterone cypionate. I had been running it for 8 weeks prior at an average of 160 mg a week with a peak dose of 200mg the week before the reading. Estrogen was very high at 69.5 pg/ml.

After the reading in an attempt to lower estrogen, I decided to lower the dose to 140 mg a week. I added masteron with an average dose of 250 mg a week for the 8 weeks leading to the new reading with a peak dose of 300 mg the week before the reading. I also added 6.25 mg of aromasin per week.

Now, the reading comes in. I thought that masteron did not aromatize, that it would be neutral. It might be right. I thought that lowering the dose of test with 6.25 mg of aromasin would have somewhat reduced estrogen. At least a bit!

Well, i'm surprised to say that my estrogen, despite all that, did not move one bit Still at 69.

I'm a bit lost but this high estrogen is most certainly why i have a hard time controlling my hunger.

Now, is there a point of even running test over 75 mg a week with an estrogen this high? Just thinking of keeping the masteron as is, taking 75 - 100 mg a week of test and maybe take 6.25 mg of aromasin twice a week instead of once a week. I'll be done with this cycle within 8-10 weeks anyway, so i know i'm gonna have to reduce the test sooner or later. I might be able to live with the estrogen this high for the 8-10 weeks, but it will have to go down at some point.

The problem here is that the doc did not request estradiol in the bloodtests prior to me jumping on gear after I started my TRT a year ago. The estradiol could have been higher than normal from a base level... That i don't know.


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@haldencapital man that is quick on getting bloods back

 

[Noah Wixx]

Bloodwork update. It only took 24h for the doc to send it to me. That was way quicker than usual.

Last reading was from April 17th. I was only using testosterone cypionate. I had been running it for 8 weeks prior at an average of 160 mg a week with a peak dose of 200mg the week before the reading. Estrogen was very high at 69.5 pg/ml.

After the reading in an attempt to lower estrogen, I decided to lower the dose to 140 mg a week. I added masteron with an average dose of 250 mg a week for the 8 weeks leading to the new reading with a peak dose of 300 mg the week before the reading. I also added 6.25 mg of aromasin per week.

Now, the reading comes in. I thought that masteron did not aromatize, that it would be neutral. It might be right. I thought that lowering the dose of test with 6.25 mg of aromasin would have somewhat reduced estrogen. At least a bit!

Well, i'm surprised to say that my estrogen, despite all that, did not move one bit Still at 69.

I'm a bit lost but this high estrogen is most certainly why i have a hard time controlling my hunger.

Now, is there a point of even running test over 75 mg a week with an estrogen this high? Just thinking of keeping the masteron as is, taking 75 - 100 mg a week of test and maybe take 6.25 mg of aromasin twice a week instead of once a week. I'll be done with this cycle within 8-10 weeks anyway, so i know i'm gonna have to reduce the test sooner or later. I might be able to live with the estrogen this high for the 8-10 weeks, but it will have to go down at some point.

The problem here is that the doc did not request estradiol in the bloodtests prior to me jumping on gear after I started my TRT a year ago. The estradiol could have been higher than normal from a base level... That i don't know.


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Everyone responds differently with these compounds its not always black and white in nature, masteron in theory could act like a serum... dont count on it, its important and good you get bloods so you can see how you respond, i know for me i can run 300 test with 300 primo no ai and estrogen will be at 16.7 some people can do the same thing and estrogen is sky high. I also recommend AI day one and adjusting after bloods dose wise.

 

[Noah Wixx]

Got the bloodwork done yesterday. Should have the results early next week and will be able to see where i stand at in order to get the orals and adjust the dosing of my inectables if required.

So far, i inject twice a week. i've been on 140 mg of test cyp per week and now at 300 mg of masteron since last week. I didn't lose much weight, my hunger is up probably due to masteron. I'm having a hard time being in a deficit, like if i was fighting the anabolic that wants me to keep growing. Even though i did not lose weight, i look tighther. So i guess the weight does not matter as much. I'm trying to curb my hunger down with 8 mg of ephedrine per day, one pill. This is like clen, the effect will taper off in a few days but i'll take the help while i can. I really want to be in a steady deficit before starting the orals.

8 weeks oral:

- 40 mg anavar per day on training day;
- 40 mg winstrol per day on training day (or would 20 mg be enough?)
- 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, total of 6 weeks on clen at a 25 mcg to 75 mcg dose per day.

Quick picture of the legs. I have too much hair to show any definition, but i think they grew a bit since February. Nothing too impressive, but for a 180 lbs frame, i think it's ok.

Honestly in my experience 20mg is plenty for winstrol i run it at that solo it was awesome crazy pumps and good endurance gains, when i combined it with 50mg anavar both taken 45 minutes before trianing... took my trianing into a whole new level.

 

[haldencapital]

Everyone responds differently with these compounds its not always black and white in nature, masteron in theory could act like a serum... dont count on it, its important and good you get bloods so you can see how you respond, i know for me i can run 300 test with 300 primo no ai and estrogen will be at 16.7 some people can do the same thing and estrogen is sky high. I also recommend AI day one and adjusting after bloods dose wise.

Honestly in my experience 20mg is plenty for winstrol i run it at that solo it was awesome crazy pumps and good endurance gains, when i combined it with 50mg anavar both taken 45 minutes before trianing... took my trianing into a whole new level.

@Noah Wixx thank you for your input! As you said and relates in your two messages, there is no one size fits all dosing. It's also what makes being enhanced so much more complicated and interesting (in my opinion) by adding multiple new variables in the process and why I tend to approach this very cautiously especially for the first year. It is certainly not a cheat code. Honestly, with my pretty new experience from natty to enhanced i can tell that it is not easy by any mean. Any bad habits (sleep, diet etc...) while natty would simply become exponentially worse on gear. The good and the bad gets amplified. My health would be in a very bad spot right now had I blasted 300 mg of test with other coumpounds from the start. There was no need for it to begin with, as most of the work has been done in the last 7 years of natty training.

 

[LevButlerov]

@Noah Wixx thank you for your input! As you said and relates in your two messages, there is no one size fits all dosing. It's also what makes being enhanced so much more complicated and interesting (in my opinion) by adding multiple new variables in the process and why I tend to approach this very cautiously especially for the first year. It is certainly not a cheat code. Honestly, with my pretty new experience from natty to enhanced i can tell that it is not easy by any mean. Any bad habits (sleep, diet etc...) while natty would simply become exponentially worse on gear. The good and the bad gets amplified. My health would be in a very bad spot right now had I blasted 300 mg of test with other coumpounds from the start. There was no need for it to begin with, as most of the work has been done in the last 7 years of natty training.

I think it's all relative to what you're doing and each person is different. I've trained guys that kill it on 20mgs of winstrol and others that need 100mgs. @haldencapital

 

[25homes]

Nice work

 

[25homes]

What ai u takin

 

[haldencapital]

What ai u takin

@25homes right now i have increased the dose to 12.5 mg of aromasin every other day.

 

[LevButlerov]

@25homes right now i have increased the dose to 12.5 mg of aromasin every other day.

how do you feel now? @haldencapital

 

[haldencapital]

how do you feel now? @haldencapital

I feel great. Hormones are bouncy for sure right now. Irritability is a bit increasing, mood swings. Guess the aromasin is doing something

 

[haldencapital]

Weekly update : i decided to take 3.5 weeks of vacation up North in a cabin. No phone, no internet, no electricity. I go in town one a week for laundry and food and i am pretty much just doing outdoor works on the land. I write this from my phone as I was able to get wifi at the laundrymat. Sweating a ton. Today is 118 degree fahrenheit. Tomorrow is the last day of the heat wave. Will get a more manageable 86 to 90 degrees after that.

So that means i get to workout by carrying wood and building stuff for the cabin. I will be able to maintain for sure but I might postponed the die hard cut due to that. My mind was on tilt before i left, lots of stress going on in my life and i don't feel like I can devote my all to it. Sleep, stress, legal & family stuff etc. Just not a good time. I keep by BW at a steady 181 - 183 lbs, somewhat lean. Which is a great foundation for this winter. I assume i will lose about 10 pounds when i will come off masteron and will reduce my testosterone to TRT levels but that would still be about 10 lbs above what i started with in January this year. I shall see.

I just don't feel like pushing another 8 weeks of cut after my vacation. I've been on cycle for about 17 weeks now. Seems plenty. I might slowly cut without orals instead of going for an aggressive and short-term cut. Give my mind some rest and come back with more motivation when all the stars will align.

So these were the last pics i took before i left. Will probably update next week or in two weeks when i'll get back home. Then i'll decide how to go about it. Probably will be the slow and steady cut only to remove some fluff.

Cheers guys! Hope everybody is doing great!

 

[LevButlerov]

Weekly update : i decided to take 3.5 weeks of vacation up North in a cabin. No phone, no internet, no electricity. I go in town one a week for laundry and food and i am pretty much just doing outdoor works on the land. I write this from my phone as I was able to get wifi at the laundrymat. Sweating a ton. Today is 118 degree fahrenheit. Tomorrow is the last day of the heat wave. Will get a more manageable 86 to 90 degrees after that.

So that means i get to workout by carrying wood and building stuff for the cabin. I will be able to maintain for sure but I might postponed the die hard cut due to that. My mind was on tilt before i left, lots of stress going on in my life and i don't feel like I can devote my all to it. Sleep, stress, legal & family stuff etc. Just not a good time. I keep by BW at a steady 181 - 183 lbs, somewhat lean. Which is a great foundation for this winter. I assume i will lose about 10 pounds when i will come off masteron and will reduce my testosterone to TRT levels but that would still be about 10 lbs above what i started with in January this year. I shall see.

I just don't feel like pushing another 8 weeks of cut after my vacation. I've been on cycle for about 17 weeks now. Seems plenty. I might slowly cut without orals instead of going for an aggressive and short-term cut. Give my mind some rest and come back with more motivation when all the stars will align.

So these were the last pics i took before i left. Will probably update next week or in two weeks when i'll get back home. Then i'll decide how to go about it. Probably will be the slow and steady cut only to remove some fluff.

Cheers guys! Hope everybody is doing great!

Dont push too hard but it's worth to cut again a bit. @haldencapital

 

[stevesmi]

Weekly update : i decided to take 3.5 weeks of vacation up North in a cabin. No phone, no internet, no electricity. I go in town one a week for laundry and food and i am pretty much just doing outdoor works on the land. I write this from my phone as I was able to get wifi at the laundrymat. Sweating a ton. Today is 118 degree fahrenheit. Tomorrow is the last day of the heat wave. Will get a more manageable 86 to 90 degrees after that.

So that means i get to workout by carrying wood and building stuff for the cabin. I will be able to maintain for sure but I might postponed the die hard cut due to that. My mind was on tilt before i left, lots of stress going on in my life and i don't feel like I can devote my all to it. Sleep, stress, legal & family stuff etc. Just not a good time. I keep by BW at a steady 181 - 183 lbs, somewhat lean. Which is a great foundation for this winter. I assume i will lose about 10 pounds when i will come off masteron and will reduce my testosterone to TRT levels but that would still be about 10 lbs above what i started with in January this year. I shall see.

I just don't feel like pushing another 8 weeks of cut after my vacation. I've been on cycle for about 17 weeks now. Seems plenty. I might slowly cut without orals instead of going for an aggressive and short-term cut. Give my mind some rest and come back with more motivation when all the stars will align.

So these were the last pics i took before i left. Will probably update next week or in two weeks when i'll get back home. Then i'll decide how to go about it. Probably will be the slow and steady cut only to remove some fluff.

Cheers guys! Hope everybody is doing great!

@haldencapital 118 degrees? damn that is nuts man. where is this ? i don't know how you have no AC

 

[BodyMonster34]

Weekly update : i decided to take 3.5 weeks of vacation up North in a cabin. No phone, no internet, no electricity. I go in town one a week for laundry and food and i am pretty much just doing outdoor works on the land. I write this from my phone as I was able to get wifi at the laundrymat. Sweating a ton. Today is 118 degree fahrenheit. Tomorrow is the last day of the heat wave. Will get a more manageable 86 to 90 degrees after that.

So that means i get to workout by carrying wood and building stuff for the cabin. I will be able to maintain for sure but I might postponed the die hard cut due to that. My mind was on tilt before i left, lots of stress going on in my life and i don't feel like I can devote my all to it. Sleep, stress, legal & family stuff etc. Just not a good time. I keep by BW at a steady 181 - 183 lbs, somewhat lean. Which is a great foundation for this winter. I assume i will lose about 10 pounds when i will come off masteron and will reduce my testosterone to TRT levels but that would still be about 10 lbs above what i started with in January this year. I shall see.

I just don't feel like pushing another 8 weeks of cut after my vacation. I've been on cycle for about 17 weeks now. Seems plenty. I might slowly cut without orals instead of going for an aggressive and short-term cut. Give my mind some rest and come back with more motivation when all the stars will align.

So these were the last pics i took before i left. Will probably update next week or in two weeks when i'll get back home. Then i'll decide how to go about it. Probably will be the slow and steady cut only to remove some fluff.

Cheers guys! Hope everybody is doing great!

@haldencapital bro in trailer i only got 3 channels on tv. we got electricity but sometimes it goes down if bad weather
and we don't got any AC either
wife super fat so when she snuggles me at night i sweat like crazy while on tren

 

[2Thick]

Weekly update : i decided to take 3.5 weeks of vacation up North in a cabin. No phone, no internet, no electricity. I go in town one a week for laundry and food and i am pretty much just doing outdoor works on the land. I write this from my phone as I was able to get wifi at the laundrymat. Sweating a ton. Today is 118 degree fahrenheit. Tomorrow is the last day of the heat wave. Will get a more manageable 86 to 90 degrees after that.

So that means i get to workout by carrying wood and building stuff for the cabin. I will be able to maintain for sure but I might postponed the die hard cut due to that. My mind was on tilt before i left, lots of stress going on in my life and i don't feel like I can devote my all to it. Sleep, stress, legal & family stuff etc. Just not a good time. I keep by BW at a steady 181 - 183 lbs, somewhat lean. Which is a great foundation for this winter. I assume i will lose about 10 pounds when i will come off masteron and will reduce my testosterone to TRT levels but that would still be about 10 lbs above what i started with in January this year. I shall see.

I just don't feel like pushing another 8 weeks of cut after my vacation. I've been on cycle for about 17 weeks now. Seems plenty. I might slowly cut without orals instead of going for an aggressive and short-term cut. Give my mind some rest and come back with more motivation when all the stars will align.

So these were the last pics i took before i left. Will probably update next week or in two weeks when i'll get back home. Then i'll decide how to go about it. Probably will be the slow and steady cut only to remove some fluff.

Cheers guys! Hope everybody is doing great!

@haldencapital Oh yeah, this is one Heck of a heat wave for sure.A lot of the country is burning. Crazy that summer just started too.

 

[Mobster]

Getting some head space. I've done 115f/50c once. Oof

 

[ROIDDERS]

Weekly update : i decided to take 3.5 weeks of vacation up North in a cabin. No phone, no internet, no electricity. I go in town one a week for laundry and food and i am pretty much just doing outdoor works on the land. I write this from my phone as I was able to get wifi at the laundrymat. Sweating a ton. Today is 118 degree fahrenheit. Tomorrow is the last day of the heat wave. Will get a more manageable 86 to 90 degrees after that.

So that means i get to workout by carrying wood and building stuff for the cabin. I will be able to maintain for sure but I might postponed the die hard cut due to that. My mind was on tilt before i left, lots of stress going on in my life and i don't feel like I can devote my all to it. Sleep, stress, legal & family stuff etc. Just not a good time. I keep by BW at a steady 181 - 183 lbs, somewhat lean. Which is a great foundation for this winter. I assume i will lose about 10 pounds when i will come off masteron and will reduce my testosterone to TRT levels but that would still be about 10 lbs above what i started with in January this year. I shall see.

I just don't feel like pushing another 8 weeks of cut after my vacation. I've been on cycle for about 17 weeks now. Seems plenty. I might slowly cut without orals instead of going for an aggressive and short-term cut. Give my mind some rest and come back with more motivation when all the stars will align.

So these were the last pics i took before i left. Will probably update next week or in two weeks when i'll get back home. Then i'll decide how to go about it. Probably will be the slow and steady cut only to remove some fluff.

Cheers guys! Hope everybody is doing great!

@haldencapital careful with the heat
you can die from heat exposure of that type
maybe take some cold showers or dip in the water

 

[ceo]

Weekly update : i decided to take 3.5 weeks of vacation up North in a cabin. No phone, no internet, no electricity. I go in town one a week for laundry and food and i am pretty much just doing outdoor works on the land. I write this from my phone as I was able to get wifi at the laundrymat. Sweating a ton. Today is 118 degree fahrenheit. Tomorrow is the last day of the heat wave. Will get a more manageable 86 to 90 degrees after that.

So that means i get to workout by carrying wood and building stuff for the cabin. I will be able to maintain for sure but I might postponed the die hard cut due to that. My mind was on tilt before i left, lots of stress going on in my life and i don't feel like I can devote my all to it. Sleep, stress, legal & family stuff etc. Just not a good time. I keep by BW at a steady 181 - 183 lbs, somewhat lean. Which is a great foundation for this winter. I assume i will lose about 10 pounds when i will come off masteron and will reduce my testosterone to TRT levels but that would still be about 10 lbs above what i started with in January this year. I shall see.

I just don't feel like pushing another 8 weeks of cut after my vacation. I've been on cycle for about 17 weeks now. Seems plenty. I might slowly cut without orals instead of going for an aggressive and short-term cut. Give my mind some rest and come back with more motivation when all the stars will align.

So these were the last pics i took before i left. Will probably update next week or in two weeks when i'll get back home. Then i'll decide how to go about it. Probably will be the slow and steady cut only to remove some fluff.

Cheers guys! Hope everybody is doing great!

@haldencapital bros 1 month vacation in a remote cabin sound fun
just be careful of ax murderers lol
keep us updated on how it goes

 

[Ulter]

@haldencapital yeah a lot of cool things to do in a cabin
you can do the rocky thing and train with logs lol
show us the pics and such

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

It is definitely mentally refreshing to unplug like that. Not so much physically refreshing with those temperatures!

 

[RoySimpson]

Weekly update : i decided to take 3.5 weeks of vacation up North in a cabin. No phone, no internet, no electricity. I go in town one a week for laundry and food and i am pretty much just doing outdoor works on the land. I write this from my phone as I was able to get wifi at the laundrymat. Sweating a ton. Today is 118 degree fahrenheit. Tomorrow is the last day of the heat wave. Will get a more manageable 86 to 90 degrees after that.

So that means i get to workout by carrying wood and building stuff for the cabin. I will be able to maintain for sure but I might postponed the die hard cut due to that. My mind was on tilt before i left, lots of stress going on in my life and i don't feel like I can devote my all to it. Sleep, stress, legal & family stuff etc. Just not a good time. I keep by BW at a steady 181 - 183 lbs, somewhat lean. Which is a great foundation for this winter. I assume i will lose about 10 pounds when i will come off masteron and will reduce my testosterone to TRT levels but that would still be about 10 lbs above what i started with in January this year. I shall see.

I just don't feel like pushing another 8 weeks of cut after my vacation. I've been on cycle for about 17 weeks now. Seems plenty. I might slowly cut without orals instead of going for an aggressive and short-term cut. Give my mind some rest and come back with more motivation when all the stars will align.

So these were the last pics i took before i left. Will probably update next week or in two weeks when i'll get back home. Then i'll decide how to go about it. Probably will be the slow and steady cut only to remove some fluff.

Cheers guys! Hope everybody is doing great!

@haldencapital looking jacked bro! cabin life must be fun!

 

[Noah Wixx]

Weekly update : i decided to take 3.5 weeks of vacation up North in a cabin. No phone, no internet, no electricity. I go in town one a week for laundry and food and i am pretty much just doing outdoor works on the land. I write this from my phone as I was able to get wifi at the laundrymat. Sweating a ton. Today is 118 degree fahrenheit. Tomorrow is the last day of the heat wave. Will get a more manageable 86 to 90 degrees after that.

So that means i get to workout by carrying wood and building stuff for the cabin. I will be able to maintain for sure but I might postponed the die hard cut due to that. My mind was on tilt before i left, lots of stress going on in my life and i don't feel like I can devote my all to it. Sleep, stress, legal & family stuff etc. Just not a good time. I keep by BW at a steady 181 - 183 lbs, somewhat lean. Which is a great foundation for this winter. I assume i will lose about 10 pounds when i will come off masteron and will reduce my testosterone to TRT levels but that would still be about 10 lbs above what i started with in January this year. I shall see.

I just don't feel like pushing another 8 weeks of cut after my vacation. I've been on cycle for about 17 weeks now. Seems plenty. I might slowly cut without orals instead of going for an aggressive and short-term cut. Give my mind some rest and come back with more motivation when all the stars will align.

So these were the last pics i took before i left. Will probably update next week or in two weeks when i'll get back home. Then i'll decide how to go about it. Probably will be the slow and steady cut only to remove some fluff.

Cheers guys! Hope everybody is doing great!

An isolation is much needed for reflection and relaxation

 

[ballin2504]

Weekly update : i decided to take 3.5 weeks of vacation up North in a cabin. No phone, no internet, no electricity. I go in town one a week for laundry and food and i am pretty much just doing outdoor works on the land. I write this from my phone as I was able to get wifi at the laundrymat. Sweating a ton. Today is 118 degree fahrenheit. Tomorrow is the last day of the heat wave. Will get a more manageable 86 to 90 degrees after that.

So that means i get to workout by carrying wood and building stuff for the cabin. I will be able to maintain for sure but I might postponed the die hard cut due to that. My mind was on tilt before i left, lots of stress going on in my life and i don't feel like I can devote my all to it. Sleep, stress, legal & family stuff etc. Just not a good time. I keep by BW at a steady 181 - 183 lbs, somewhat lean. Which is a great foundation for this winter. I assume i will lose about 10 pounds when i will come off masteron and will reduce my testosterone to TRT levels but that would still be about 10 lbs above what i started with in January this year. I shall see.

I just don't feel like pushing another 8 weeks of cut after my vacation. I've been on cycle for about 17 weeks now. Seems plenty. I might slowly cut without orals instead of going for an aggressive and short-term cut. Give my mind some rest and come back with more motivation when all the stars will align.

So these were the last pics i took before i left. Will probably update next week or in two weeks when i'll get back home. Then i'll decide how to go about it. Probably will be the slow and steady cut only to remove some fluff.

Cheers guys! Hope everybody is doing great!

@haldencapital damn I thought the 105 where I’m at was bad

 

[25homes]

Good work

 

[haldencapital]

@haldencapital 118 degrees? damn that is nuts man. where is this ? i don't know how you have no AC

@haldencapital bro in trailer i only got 3 channels on tv. we got electricity but sometimes it goes down if bad weather
and we don't got any AC either
wife super fat so when she snuggles me at night i sweat like crazy while on tren

@haldencapital Oh yeah, this is one Heck of a heat wave for sure.A lot of the country is burning. Crazy that summer just started too.

Getting some head space. I've done 115f/50c once. Oof

@haldencapital careful with the heat
you can die from heat exposure of that type
maybe take some cold showers or dip in the water

@haldencapital bros 1 month vacation in a remote cabin sound fun
just be careful of ax murderers lol
keep us updated on how it goes

@haldencapital yeah a lot of cool things to do in a cabin
you can do the rocky thing and train with logs lol
show us the pics and such

It is definitely mentally refreshing to unplug like that. Not so much physically refreshing with those temperatures!

@haldencapital looking jacked bro! cabin life must be fun!

An isolation is much needed for reflection and relaxation

@haldencapital damn I thought the 105 where I’m at was bad

@stevesmi @BodyMonster34 @2Thick @Mobster @ROIDDERS @ceo @Ulter @Masonic Bodybuilder @RoySimpson @Noah Wixx @ballin2504

Just saw your message guys. I'm back home now. Heat wave was nasty. Two days over 115 degrees. Overall, two weeks of almost 100+ degrees. There is a small lake at the end of the river nearby so i was able to get some good dips when i was overheating.

Good thing is i was so active while under-eating, I think i have lost a net 4 pounds without thinking about it too much. I had to cook on propane grills but with no fridge or electricity, the diet was mostly whey, tuna cans, pastas and fruits. I think I was able to maintain pretty well despite not being able to go to the gym. I was still doing manual labor around the lot so muscles were still active.

But the heat made it very difficult to sleep. I will have to catch up on bad sleep in the next few days.

Small workout to make to blood flow a bit this morning. I'll make sure to crank up my protein intake. -4 pounds, no noticeable strength loss. Energy is fair. Looking forward to see how I can get back on track from here for the next few weeks.

 

[2Thick]

@stevesmi @BodyMonster34 @2Thick @Mobster @ROIDDERS @ceo @Ulter @Masonic Bodybuilder @RoySimpson @Noah Wixx @ballin2504

Just saw your message guys. I'm back home now. Heat wave was nasty. Two days over 115 degrees. Overall, two weeks of almost 100+ degrees. There is a small lake at the end of the river nearby so i was able to get some good dips when i was overheating.

Good thing is i was so active while under-eating, I think i have lost a net 4 pounds without thinking about it too much. I had to cook on propane grills but with no fridge or electricity, the diet was mostly whey, tuna cans, pastas and fruits. I think I was able to maintain pretty well despite not being able to go to the gym. I was still doing manual labor around the lot so muscles were still active.

But the heat made it very difficult to sleep. I will have to catch up on bad sleep in the next few days.

Small workout to make to blood flow a bit this morning. I'll make sure to crank up my protein intake. -4 pounds, no noticeable strength loss. Energy is fair. Looking forward to see how I can get back on track from here for the next few weeks.

yeah the heat wave was nuts!

 

[stevesmi]

@stevesmi @BodyMonster34 @2Thick @Mobster @ROIDDERS @ceo @Ulter @Masonic Bodybuilder @RoySimpson @Noah Wixx @ballin2504

Just saw your message guys. I'm back home now. Heat wave was nasty. Two days over 115 degrees. Overall, two weeks of almost 100+ degrees. There is a small lake at the end of the river nearby so i was able to get some good dips when i was overheating.

Good thing is i was so active while under-eating, I think i have lost a net 4 pounds without thinking about it too much. I had to cook on propane grills but with no fridge or electricity, the diet was mostly whey, tuna cans, pastas and fruits. I think I was able to maintain pretty well despite not being able to go to the gym. I was still doing manual labor around the lot so muscles were still active.

But the heat made it very difficult to sleep. I will have to catch up on bad sleep in the next few days.

Small workout to make to blood flow a bit this morning. I'll make sure to crank up my protein intake. -4 pounds, no noticeable strength loss. Energy is fair. Looking forward to see how I can get back on track from here for the next few weeks.

good to see you were able to cool off

 

[Noah Wixx]

@stevesmi @BodyMonster34 @2Thick @Mobster @ROIDDERS @ceo @Ulter @Masonic Bodybuilder @RoySimpson @Noah Wixx @ballin2504

Just saw your message guys. I'm back home now. Heat wave was nasty. Two days over 115 degrees. Overall, two weeks of almost 100+ degrees. There is a small lake at the end of the river nearby so i was able to get some good dips when i was overheating.

Good thing is i was so active while under-eating, I think i have lost a net 4 pounds without thinking about it too much. I had to cook on propane grills but with no fridge or electricity, the diet was mostly whey, tuna cans, pastas and fruits. I think I was able to maintain pretty well despite not being able to go to the gym. I was still doing manual labor around the lot so muscles were still active.

But the heat made it very difficult to sleep. I will have to catch up on bad sleep in the next few days.

Small workout to make to blood flow a bit this morning. I'll make sure to crank up my protein intake. -4 pounds, no noticeable strength loss. Energy is fair. Looking forward to see how I can get back on track from here for the next few weeks.

U look incredible dude

 

[BodyMonster34]

@stevesmi @BodyMonster34 @2Thick @Mobster @ROIDDERS @ceo @Ulter @Masonic Bodybuilder @RoySimpson @Noah Wixx @ballin2504

Just saw your message guys. I'm back home now. Heat wave was nasty. Two days over 115 degrees. Overall, two weeks of almost 100+ degrees. There is a small lake at the end of the river nearby so i was able to get some good dips when i was overheating.

Good thing is i was so active while under-eating, I think i have lost a net 4 pounds without thinking about it too much. I had to cook on propane grills but with no fridge or electricity, the diet was mostly whey, tuna cans, pastas and fruits. I think I was able to maintain pretty well despite not being able to go to the gym. I was still doing manual labor around the lot so muscles were still active.

But the heat made it very difficult to sleep. I will have to catch up on bad sleep in the next few days.

Small workout to make to blood flow a bit this morning. I'll make sure to crank up my protein intake. -4 pounds, no noticeable strength loss. Energy is fair. Looking forward to see how I can get back on track from here for the next few weeks.

bro you look like a beast

 

[haldencapital]

Came back from the woods last week. The heat really got me tired and I did not train for most of the week. Did not have the motivation either so i decided to take it easy. Now, motivation is here again and i am going back into the groove. quick legs + back/biceps yesterday and chest + shoulders/triceps today.

I will get back to my normal routine and might start doing the last stretch of dieting for about 6 weeks. Currently down 4 to 5 pounds net. Now between 179 and 180 pounds, evening weight.

Nothing too fancy here. Just avoiding dull workouts to keep the motivation in check while I get my full strength back. Once I get my optimal routine, I'll have a better idea of where I stand.

I hope y'all had a great weekend so far ! And happy independence day to my american online friends

 

[LevButlerov]

Came back from the woods last week. The heat really got me tired and I did not train for most of the week. Did not have the motivation either so i decided to take it easy. Now, motivation is here again and i am going back into the groove. quick legs + back/biceps yesterday and chest + shoulders/triceps today.

I will get back to my normal routine and might start doing the last stretch of dieting for about 6 weeks. Currently down 4 to 5 pounds net. Now between 179 and 180 pounds, evening weight.

Nothing too fancy here. Just avoiding dull workouts to keep the motivation in check while I get my full strength back. Once I get my optimal routine, I'll have a better idea of where I stand.

I hope y'all had a great weekend so far ! And happy independence day to my american online friends

@haldencapital we missed you in the EVO family big chest pump there, you look great. How is your food intake?
and happy 4th to you too.

 

[haldencapital]

@haldencapital we missed you in the EVO family big chest pump there, you look great. How is your food intake?
and happy 4th to you too.

@LevButlerov
I'm still trying to find a footing. I maintain at around 2100 calories right now.

I tried eating the same thing everyday since I got back last week to find my maintenance.

1: 2/3 cup oats + 2 scoops protein pre-work at noon
2 : Two cans of tuna with green veggies or salad.
3: 450 GR of eggs white + 2 eggs + 200 GR Greek yogurt
4: 200 gr of Chicken breast + 100gr rice
5: fill the rest with carbs if calories allow.

But, most of the time I aim for my 220 GR of protein and fill the rest with carbs mostly pre workout and at my last meal. Minimal fat right now, I just don't like having too much of my calories from fat when I'm not in a surplus. I just like eating carbs

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov
I'm still trying to find a footing. I maintain at around 2100 calories right now.

I tried eating the same thing everyday since I got back last week to find my maintenance.

1: 2/3 cup oats + 2 scoops protein pre-work at noon
2 : Two cans of tuna with green veggies or salad.
3: 450 GR of eggs white + 2 eggs + 200 GR Greek yogurt
4: 200 gr of Chicken breast + 100gr rice
5: fill the rest with carbs if calories allow.

But, most of the time I aim for my 220 GR of protein and fill the rest with carbs mostly pre workout and at my last meal. Minimal fat right now, I just don't like having too much of my calories from fat when I'm not in a surplus. I just like eating carbs

2100 cal is good but you modding the diet with avocado and more fats? consider it. @haldencapital

 

[haldencapital]

2100 cal is good but you modding the diet with avocado and more fats? consider it. @haldencapital

@LevButlerov from time to time, I eat more whole eggs to kill cravings but avocados are a good idea to add with my salad

 

[stevesmi]

Came back from the woods last week. The heat really got me tired and I did not train for most of the week. Did not have the motivation either so i decided to take it easy. Now, motivation is here again and i am going back into the groove. quick legs + back/biceps yesterday and chest + shoulders/triceps today.

I will get back to my normal routine and might start doing the last stretch of dieting for about 6 weeks. Currently down 4 to 5 pounds net. Now between 179 and 180 pounds, evening weight.

Nothing too fancy here. Just avoiding dull workouts to keep the motivation in check while I get my full strength back. Once I get my optimal routine, I'll have a better idea of where I stand.

I hope y'all had a great weekend so far ! And happy independence day to my american online friends

@haldencapital yeah its been super crazy weather. not just heat but i know people who got destroyed by severe weather as well. its pretty kooky stuff but glad you had fun

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov from time to time, I eat more whole eggs to kill cravings but avocados are a good idea to add with my salad

Add avocados and walnuts too @haldencapital

 

[haldencapital]

@haldencapital yeah its been super crazy weather. not just heat but i know people who got destroyed by severe weather as well. its pretty kooky stuff but glad you had fun

@stevesmi I was not complaining too much besides when I was trying to sleep because while I was chilling near the water, I was thinking of construction workers roofing and employees doing paving. Oh my goodness. I had no business pushing to the limit, I simply was enjoying my time off.

 

[Mobster]

Came back from the woods last week. The heat really got me tired and I did not train for most of the week. Did not have the motivation either so i decided to take it easy. Now, motivation is here again and i am going back into the groove. quick legs + back/biceps yesterday and chest + shoulders/triceps today.

I will get back to my normal routine and might start doing the last stretch of dieting for about 6 weeks. Currently down 4 to 5 pounds net. Now between 179 and 180 pounds, evening weight.

Nothing too fancy here. Just avoiding dull workouts to keep the motivation in check while I get my full strength back. Once I get my optimal routine, I'll have a better idea of where I stand.

I hope y'all had a great weekend so far ! And happy independence day to my american online friends

Working right?

 

[RoySimpson]

Came back from the woods last week. The heat really got me tired and I did not train for most of the week. Did not have the motivation either so i decided to take it easy. Now, motivation is here again and i am going back into the groove. quick legs + back/biceps yesterday and chest + shoulders/triceps today.

I will get back to my normal routine and might start doing the last stretch of dieting for about 6 weeks. Currently down 4 to 5 pounds net. Now between 179 and 180 pounds, evening weight.

Nothing too fancy here. Just avoiding dull workouts to keep the motivation in check while I get my full strength back. Once I get my optimal routine, I'll have a better idea of where I stand.

I hope y'all had a great weekend so far ! And happy independence day to my american online friends

@haldencapital chest is looking brolic bro!

 

[stevesmi]

@stevesmi I was not complaining too much besides when I was trying to sleep because while I was chilling near the water, I was thinking of construction workers roofing and employees doing paving. Oh my goodness. I had no business pushing to the limit, I simply was enjoying my time off.

Yeah good to see you clear ur mind

 

[BodyMonster34]

Came back from the woods last week. The heat really got me tired and I did not train for most of the week. Did not have the motivation either so i decided to take it easy. Now, motivation is here again and i am going back into the groove. quick legs + back/biceps yesterday and chest + shoulders/triceps today.

I will get back to my normal routine and might start doing the last stretch of dieting for about 6 weeks. Currently down 4 to 5 pounds net. Now between 179 and 180 pounds, evening weight.

Nothing too fancy here. Just avoiding dull workouts to keep the motivation in check while I get my full strength back. Once I get my optimal routine, I'll have a better idea of where I stand.

I hope y'all had a great weekend so far ! And happy independence day to my american online friends

@haldencapital bro thanks i had good weekend. now gotta pack up and go to tanker. gotta be at port in 3 hours

 

[ROIDDERS]

Came back from the woods last week. The heat really got me tired and I did not train for most of the week. Did not have the motivation either so i decided to take it easy. Now, motivation is here again and i am going back into the groove. quick legs + back/biceps yesterday and chest + shoulders/triceps today.

I will get back to my normal routine and might start doing the last stretch of dieting for about 6 weeks. Currently down 4 to 5 pounds net. Now between 179 and 180 pounds, evening weight.

Nothing too fancy here. Just avoiding dull workouts to keep the motivation in check while I get my full strength back. Once I get my optimal routine, I'll have a better idea of where I stand.

I hope y'all had a great weekend so far ! And happy independence day to my american online friends

A nice to see you had an enjoyable week even though the weather was not your friend. Maybe next year, plan it a little bit earlier before it gets too hot. Maybe 2 or 3 weeks sooner.@haldencapital

 

[ceo]

Came back from the woods last week. The heat really got me tired and I did not train for most of the week. Did not have the motivation either so i decided to take it easy. Now, motivation is here again and i am going back into the groove. quick legs + back/biceps yesterday and chest + shoulders/triceps today.

I will get back to my normal routine and might start doing the last stretch of dieting for about 6 weeks. Currently down 4 to 5 pounds net. Now between 179 and 180 pounds, evening weight.

Nothing too fancy here. Just avoiding dull workouts to keep the motivation in check while I get my full strength back. Once I get my optimal routine, I'll have a better idea of where I stand.

I hope y'all had a great weekend so far ! And happy independence day to my american online friends

bros you have emerged from the woods. sounds like a fun break. now make sure you kill it @haldencapital you lookin as good as ever

 

[Ulter]

Came back from the woods last week. The heat really got me tired and I did not train for most of the week. Did not have the motivation either so i decided to take it easy. Now, motivation is here again and i am going back into the groove. quick legs + back/biceps yesterday and chest + shoulders/triceps today.

I will get back to my normal routine and might start doing the last stretch of dieting for about 6 weeks. Currently down 4 to 5 pounds net. Now between 179 and 180 pounds, evening weight.

Nothing too fancy here. Just avoiding dull workouts to keep the motivation in check while I get my full strength back. Once I get my optimal routine, I'll have a better idea of where I stand.

I hope y'all had a great weekend so far ! And happy independence day to my american online friends

@haldencapital the EVO family would appreciate some pics of your trip! It sounds like you had a fun time. I'm looking forward to seeing those pictures if you have them.

 

[25homes]

Good pics

 

[2Thick]

Came back from the woods last week. The heat really got me tired and I did not train for most of the week. Did not have the motivation either so i decided to take it easy. Now, motivation is here again and i am going back into the groove. quick legs + back/biceps yesterday and chest + shoulders/triceps today.

I will get back to my normal routine and might start doing the last stretch of dieting for about 6 weeks. Currently down 4 to 5 pounds net. Now between 179 and 180 pounds, evening weight.

Nothing too fancy here. Just avoiding dull workouts to keep the motivation in check while I get my full strength back. Once I get my optimal routine, I'll have a better idea of where I stand.

I hope y'all had a great weekend so far ! And happy independence day to my american online friends

@haldencapital wow you look terrific man. the physique is ripped to shreds. you got striations all over the place

 

[haldencapital]

Working right?

@Mobster yes sir ! Working on the land to clear some trees for a future construction.

@haldencapital chest is looking brolic bro!

It's not bad indeed. It's been better so i always have something to aim for @RoySimpson

A nice to see you had an enjoyable week even though the weather was not your friend. Maybe next year, plan it a little bit earlier before it gets too hot. Maybe 2 or 3 weeks sooner.@haldencapital

@ROIDDERS next year i'm planning a trip west to Waterton Park in Alberta for a week of hiking. Sometime in May so heat won't be an issue.

bros you have emerged from the woods. sounds like a fun break. now make sure you kill it @haldencapital you lookin as good as ever

@ceo not too bad for someone who wasn't able to train at a gym for two weeks. That's what i tell myself Manual labor still helps maintain for sure.

@haldencapital wow you look terrific man. the physique is ripped to shreds. you got striations all over the place

@2Thick hunger is much more manageable since i got back so that should help the striations a little more. I probably was very stressed before I leave and ghrelin/insulin sensitivity was probably out of whack. And my high estrogen did not help either and was probably somewhat related.

 

[ROIDDERS]

@Mobster yes sir ! Working on the land to clear some trees for a future construction.



It's not bad indeed. It's been better so i always have something to aim for @RoySimpson



@ROIDDERS next year i'm planning a trip west to Waterton Park in Alberta for a week of hiking. Sometime in May so heat won't be an issue.



@ceo not too bad for someone who wasn't able to train at a gym for two weeks. That's what i tell myself Manual labor still helps maintain for sure.



@2Thick hunger is much more manageable since i got back so that should help the striations a little more. I probably was very stressed before I leave and ghrelin/insulin sensitivity was probably out of whack. And my high estrogen did not help either and was probably somewhat related.

its nice to be canadian. you all vacation all the damn time

 

[2Thick]

@Mobster yes sir ! Working on the land to clear some trees for a future construction.



It's not bad indeed. It's been better so i always have something to aim for @RoySimpson



@ROIDDERS next year i'm planning a trip west to Waterton Park in Alberta for a week of hiking. Sometime in May so heat won't be an issue.



@ceo not too bad for someone who wasn't able to train at a gym for two weeks. That's what i tell myself Manual labor still helps maintain for sure.



@2Thick hunger is much more manageable since i got back so that should help the striations a little more. I probably was very stressed before I leave and ghrelin/insulin sensitivity was probably out of whack. And my high estrogen did not help either and was probably somewhat related.

i hear you on that

 

[ceo]

@Mobster yes sir ! Working on the land to clear some trees for a future construction.



It's not bad indeed. It's been better so i always have something to aim for @RoySimpson



@ROIDDERS next year i'm planning a trip west to Waterton Park in Alberta for a week of hiking. Sometime in May so heat won't be an issue.



@ceo not too bad for someone who wasn't able to train at a gym for two weeks. That's what i tell myself Manual labor still helps maintain for sure.



@2Thick hunger is much more manageable since i got back so that should help the striations a little more. I probably was very stressed before I leave and ghrelin/insulin sensitivity was probably out of whack. And my high estrogen did not help either and was probably somewhat related.

bros yeah it does

 

[ballin2504]

Came back from the woods last week. The heat really got me tired and I did not train for most of the week. Did not have the motivation either so i decided to take it easy. Now, motivation is here again and i am going back into the groove. quick legs + back/biceps yesterday and chest + shoulders/triceps today.

I will get back to my normal routine and might start doing the last stretch of dieting for about 6 weeks. Currently down 4 to 5 pounds net. Now between 179 and 180 pounds, evening weight.

Nothing too fancy here. Just avoiding dull workouts to keep the motivation in check while I get my full strength back. Once I get my optimal routine, I'll have a better idea of where I stand.

I hope y'all had a great weekend so far ! And happy independence day to my american online friends

@haldencapital looking thick man. Keep up that training. It’s working well.

 

[haldencapital]

The addition of 12.5 mg of aromasin every other day must have done something great. I'm dialed in since last week and my hunger is much more controllable. Over the last 14 days, i have not had any craving and can maintain my calorie deficit without any issue.

I feel more in control of everything right now.

Still at 300 mg of masteron each week and 140 mg of testosterone.

I went from 184 to 177 pounds (full at night after my last meal). And this seems to be consistent since Monday.

I usually have my cup of oats with whey at 10h30 before my workout. I have one scoop of whey and greek yogourt + berries at 1PM after training and then, what I do during a diet phase, I push my last two meals in the evening so i can sleep with food in my system.

Working beautifully so far. Strength is still there. I simply look a bit flat as i am in a deficit but i had a surplus day on Sunday and I can tell that the flatness leaves very quickly with an increased food intake. Not worried about being flat at all.

I want to work with the diet and training + deficit as long as I can before introducing any orals.

Looking like this so far, after a workout. It's weird but i feel like the gear gave me a larger gut and i seem to have developed a bit of additional skin on the abs from it. But, i'm still 17 pounds heavier than my natural weight i had so mightjust be an extra layer of fat i need to dig in

I hope you are all doing well. Stay blessed !

 

[LevButlerov]

The addition of 12.5 mg of aromasin every other day must have done something great. I'm dialed in since last week and my hunger is much more controllable. Over the last 14 days, i have not had any craving and can maintain my calorie deficit without any issue.

I feel more in control of everything right now.

Still at 300 mg of masteron each week and 140 mg of testosterone.

I went from 184 to 177 pounds (full at night after my last meal). And this seems to be consistent since Monday.

I usually have my cup of oats with whey at 10h30 before my workout. I have one scoop of whey and greek yogourt + berries at 1PM after training and then, what I do during a diet phase, I push my last two meals in the evening so i can sleep with food in my system.

Working beautifully so far. Strength is still there. I simply look a bit flat as i am in a deficit but i had a surplus day on Sunday and I can tell that the flatness leaves very quickly with an increased food intake. Not worried about being flat at all.

I want to work with the diet and training + deficit as long as I can before introducing any orals.

Looking like this so far, after a workout. It's weird but i feel like the gear gave me a larger gut and i seem to have developed a bit of additional skin on the abs from it. But, i'm still 17 pounds heavier than my natural weight i had so mightjust be an extra layer of fat i need to dig in

I hope you are all doing well. Stay blessed !

Adding aromasin does help especially as you clean up the aromatase enzyme more. @haldencapital
High estrogen = high hunger its just a fact, looking at your pics you're not flat at all you look awesome.

You want to slice? I dont see why you can keep growing easy

 

[haldencapital]

Been a while folks. Thanks to @LevButlerov and @BeMe for the tags on the recent Fusion Canada change while I was away.

Indeed, I went back to work to stack up as much bills as I could before the slow season. So, I didn't go as deep in the cut as I wanted to but I'm happy with the progress I've made in this log with regards to using a second compound.

To me, this is the most important as I always preached. It was my second cycle and the first one with a second compound. I did learn a lot by doing monthly blood work and had I not gone the prudent route I would have caused lots of damage due to my estrogen conversion. Next time I know not to be afraid of using an AI even if I only push 200mg of test a week or else, I need to keep the dose unnecessarily low.

As for masteron, I got really bad acne at 300mg a week. That was to be expected and I'll see what I can do next time.

Anybody saying that it's easier on gear is probably doing it blindly. It is not easier. That's in fact the opposite to me. We are adding so much more variables to the mix, yes it helps building muscles but if the rest is shit (eat, sleep, training, education, blood work) it does nothing but damage.

So, since my last update there has been no change to the physique really. I ended up maintaining 176 pounds. I stopped the gear 4 weeks ago and am now back to my normal prescribe TRT. I will get blood work in 6 weeks to see how the profiles landed to and take it slow this fall in order to create another goal for the winter. I really want to get the estrogen in control before going back in. I also need to get back on a clean diet. Eating camp food for weeks really does not help.

Looking back, I gained a solid 10-12 pounds since my first cycle in February. Even though I lost a bit of size compared to when my estrogen was through the roof, most of the gains are muscles despite having accumulated a bit more fat in the lower belly. I notice that my gut is bigger than when I was natural.

Now that I will be working less, the plan is to continue lifting through Fall . I just want to enjoy my time, no real goal but to keep what I gained on the frame. I don't want to burnout before the next iteration. And mostly enjoy the rest of the mountain biking season.

When winter comes, I'll be focusing on a real lean bulk. I want to get a nice set of legs. Until then, I will have to study the best compounds to achieve so. Test, Dbol, deca ?? Who knows I have not structured anything yet but I'll be reading and studying the possibilities.

Looking forward to the future and thanks to the EVO fam for the support as always

 

[BeMe]

Been a while folks. Thanks to @LevButlerov and @BeMe for the tags on the recent Fusion Canada change while I was away.

Indeed, I went back to work to stack up as much bills as I could before the slow season. So, I didn't go as deep in the cut as I wanted to but I'm happy with the progress I've made in this log with regards to using a second compound.

To me, this is the most important as I always preached. It was my second cycle and the first one with a second compound. I did learn a lot by doing monthly blood work and had I not gone the prudent route I would have caused lots of damage due to my estrogen conversion. Next time I know not to be afraid of using an AI even if I only push 200mg of test a week or else, I need to keep the dose unnecessarily low.

As for masteron, I got really bad acne at 300mg a week. That was to be expected and I'll see what I can do next time.

Anybody saying that it's easier on gear is probably doing it blindly. It is not easier. That's in fact the opposite to me. We are adding so much more variables to the mix, yes it helps building muscles but if the rest is shit (eat, sleep, training, education, blood work) it does nothing but damage.

So, since my last update there has been no change to the physique really. I ended up maintaining 176 pounds. I stopped the gear 4 weeks ago and am now back to my normal prescribe TRT. I will get blood work in 6 weeks to see how the profiles landed to and take it slow this fall in order to create another goal for the winter. I really want to get the estrogen in control before going back in. I also need to get back on a clean diet. Eating camp food for weeks really does not help.

Looking back, I gained a solid 10-12 pounds since my first cycle in February. Even though I lost a bit of size compared to when my estrogen was through the roof, most of the gains are muscles despite having accumulated a bit more fat in the lower belly. I notice that my gut is bigger than when I was natural.

Now that I will be working less, the plan is to continue lifting through Fall . I just want to enjoy my time, no real goal but to keep what I gained on the frame. I don't want to burnout before the next iteration. And mostly enjoy the rest of the mountain biking season.

When winter comes, I'll be focusing on a real lean bulk. I want to get a nice set of legs. Until then, I will have to study the best compounds to achieve so. Test, Dbol, deca ?? Who knows I have not structured anything yet but I'll be reading and studying the possibilities.

Looking forward to the future and thanks to the EVO fam for the support as always

It's nice to have you back bro!

Wow I had no idea you'd only been on your second cycle. You look insanely good. You probably started with a long natty training history right?

If you shaped up that nice while busy at work it will be interesting to see what you can do with more free time on your hands. You're gonna look like a weapon!

I'm trying to lean bulk this fall/winter too. I'm planning on just running Tren A and seeing how my body handles it. I'm gonna start in late October early November. If you want me to be your lab rat you can wait on me and I can tell you how it goes lol.

 

[haldencapital]

It's nice to have you back bro!

Wow I had no idea you'd only been on your second cycle. You look insanely good. You probably started with a long natty training history right?

If you shaped up that nice while busy at work it will be interesting to see what you can do with more free time on your hands. You're gonna look like a weapon!

I'm trying to lean bulk this fall/winter too. I'm planning on just running Tren A and seeing how my body handles it. I'm gonna start in late October early November. If you want me to be your lab rat you can wait on me and I can tell you how it goes lol.

@BeMe yeah! Thanks!

Started February 2025, 3 months of 150 mg of testosterone only. Then, the "second cycle" if we can call it that way, with 180 mg test + 300 mg masteron until last month. That is it. I had a 6+ years of military regimen training and dieting prior to that. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to extract all the benefits from the gear with the mad work schedule this summer but what I wanted to achieve was a success : getting to know my tolerance to the testosterone and studying the data behind the blood work + the interaction between 2 mild compounds. Good thing I went step by step, I'm very prone to aromatization as you saw a few months ago in the data we shared. I could have end up in a very bad situation very quickly with the "bro doses".

I really want to get dialed in next time with the same rigid structure I had on my natural build up. Diet, sleep, training and all.

Man, tren A. I've looked into it. Honestly, the looks of it is disgusting loll. But I've looked at some opinions and Todd Lee I believe is his name, mentioned that the minimal effective dose could be as low as 40-50 mg a week. And in my opinion I won't go beyond that knowing the side effects. That is the core of my approach too. Finding the minimal effective dose in everything. That's why I liked masteron so much. I can tolerate lots of it for my size. Only thing I will need to look into is the acne. But, if you ever get on tren before me, I'll be more than happy to see how you feel on it. Just be careful though, I don't want to be a p*ussy but tren seems very letal, I just don't see myself pinning 200-300 mg a week without having to spend the rest of my life in jail due to blowing a fuse on someone loll

 

[BeMe]

@BeMe yeah! Thanks!

Started February 2025, 3 months of 150 mg of testosterone only. Then, the "second cycle" if we can call it that way, with 180 mg test + 300 mg masteron until last month. That is it. I had a 6+ years of military regimen training and dieting prior to that. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to extract all the benefits from the gear with the mad work schedule this summer but what I wanted to achieve was a success : getting to know my tolerance to the testosterone and studying the data behind the blood work + the interaction between 2 mild compounds. Good thing I went step by step, I'm very prone to aromatization as you saw a few months ago in the data we shared. I could have end up in a very bad situation very quickly with the "bro doses".

I really want to get dialed in next time with the same rigid structure I had on my natural build up. Diet, sleep, training and all.

Man, tren A. I've looked into it. Honestly, the looks of it is disgusting loll. But I've looked at some opinions and Todd Lee I believe is his name, mentioned that the minimal effective dose could be as low as 40-50 mg a week. And in my opinion I won't go beyond that knowing the side effects. That is the core of my approach too. Finding the minimal effective dose in everything. That's why I liked masteron so much. I can tolerate lots of it for my size. Only thing I will need to look into is the acne. But, if you ever get on tren before me, I'll be more than happy to see how you feel on it. Just be careful though, I don't want to be a p*ussy but tren seems very letal, I just don't see myself pinning 200-300 mg a week without having to spend the rest of my life in jail due to blowing a fuse on someone loll

You got some amazing results from a really low dose cycle. You could be a hyper responder based on your results and the level of aromatization you experienced. That's great news because it means you can get more from less.

I took the same cautious approach as you for the same reasons. I had the opposite reaction, where my dosing was definitely too low and I could've handled a lot more. But we live and learn and try to do it without doing any serious long term damage.

I have some guardrails in place with my Tren cycle and I'm running Ace so if things get hectic I can back off pretty quick. My wife knows if I change at all to let me know. I trust her so if something does go wrong with me mentally she'll see it and set me straight. Going to start low around 150mg a week and titrate up to 300mg if tolerable.