Approved Log Testosterone and HGH cycle Log

[panic_jam]

Log

Bio (from a previous post)

You are all such great brothers and I just can't tell you all how much I appreciate all of your feedback/guidance..., and I am SO FREAKING SORRY for how inconsistent I have been with my post. I work 24 on 48 off shifts as a firefighter/paramedic at a busy station and take a lot of overtime shifts, so many times that equates to 48 on 24 off for the week. I work out at work mostly. When I'm off, I'm usually either catching up on sleep or doing family stuff or catching up on house chores.

As for this stuff about a log, I really don't know what you want to know exactly.

As for a background,
I was very active as a veteran/vip of thesteroidworld for several years back when it was around, which at the time was known as being one of the most solid forums there was. So many brothers on there that I felt like I knew like family. It was shutdown not long after PEDs were getting a lot of media attention (when Mark McGuire, etc had to testify before a congressional committee). That was the last forum I was really apart of.

I'm now 48 years old. I am 5' 11" and weigh 220 lbs. My bf% is around 18 now. I lift weights, I take AAS occasionally, and I eat accordingly. Same thing I've done for over 20 years now.


For starters, I am currently taking test and GH. I did 4 weeks of dbol @ 30 mg/day plus liver protection and recently stopped. For cycles I prefer to mainly stick to test, but occassionally add tren or deca. My test dosage is 500/week, which I honestly don't feel is really doing very much at all... most likely because of the number of years I've taken test for muscle growth and for the last 4 years, TRT. I've always tried to take a relatively lower dose than what I probably needed to. So I have debated increasing my dose or adding some tren. I've always had a good response with tren. I also routinely have my labs drawn

Diet -- as much protein as possible. My target is 200 grams/day but it usually ends up being between 125-150 grams if my shift is busy.

I also had surgery for gynecomastia about 20 years ago, and so I don't have an issue with bitch tits from aromatization. However, I still get progestogenic flares from deca and tren.

The GH I'm taking is generic blue top Eurotropin from PSL.

As I have gotten older, my approach to training has shifted from heavier weight-lower rep, to lower weight-higher rep. This seems to be working just fine and helps with cardio which is huge being a firefighter.

Training

• Frequency - varies, depends on work schedule. Avg 4 days/wk
• Intensity - Moderately High (90 sec rest btw sets)
• Approach - Low - Mod weight, high rep
• Curated more for endurance/fitness

Diet

• 150 - 200 grams protein/day
• Calories/day = 3500-4000 (estimated)
• Meals: varies
• Frequency: varies. Usually 4-5 meals/24 hours

Sleep

• On duty: 0-4 hrs/night
• Off duty: 6-8 hrs/night

Health

• Major Depressive Disorder = Treated, stable
• Adult ADHD = Treated with medication; Significantly hinders tasks requiring sustained attention.
• Intermittent Explosive Disorder = Treated with medication. Routinely problematic, but hugely improved since beginning treatment
• Life Scan done annually
• Labs taken frequently (every other month or so on average)

Otherwise in good health


Supplements

• Liver protection when on dbol

Gear

Test Cyp - 600 wk
HGH - 4 IU/day


Injuries

• Rotator Cuff Tear - surgery recommended. May schedule sometime next year.

Goals

• Maintain good health status
• Maintain overall muscular appearance without drastic gains (not trying to be Mr. Olympia)
• Continue to perform job duties effectively (job heavily dependent on physical fitness)

Cardio

• Fighting structure fires (avg. 1 every week or so) = incredibly strenuous
• Stair climber 3-4 times/wk until I see spots or can't feel my legs

 

[LevButlerov]

Log

Bio (from a previous post)

You are all such great brothers and I just can't tell you all how much I appreciate all of your feedback/guidance..., and I am SO FREAKING SORRY for how inconsistent I have been with my post. I work 24 on 48 off shifts as a firefighter/paramedic at a busy station and take a lot of overtime shifts, so many times that equates to 48 on 24 off for the week. I work out at work mostly. When I'm off, I'm usually either catching up on sleep or doing family stuff or catching up on house chores.

As for this stuff about a log, I really don't know what you want to know exactly.

As for a background,
I was very active as a veteran/vip of thesteroidworld for several years back when it was around, which at the time was known as being one of the most solid forums there was. So many brothers on there that I felt like I knew like family. It was shutdown not long after PEDs were getting a lot of media attention (when Mark McGuire, etc had to testify before a congressional committee). That was the last forum I was really apart of.

I'm now 48 years old. I am 5' 11" and weigh 220 lbs. My bf% is around 18 now. I lift weights, I take AAS occasionally, and I eat accordingly. Same thing I've done for over 20 years now.


For starters, I am currently taking test and GH. I did 4 weeks of dbol @ 30 mg/day plus liver protection and recently stopped. For cycles I prefer to mainly stick to test, but occassionally add tren or deca. My test dosage is 500/week, which I honestly don't feel is really doing very much at all... most likely because of the number of years I've taken test for muscle growth and for the last 4 years, TRT. I've always tried to take a relatively lower dose than what I probably needed to. So I have debated increasing my dose or adding some tren. I've always had a good response with tren. I also routinely have my labs drawn

Diet -- as much protein as possible. My target is 200 grams/day but it usually ends up being between 125-150 grams if my shift is busy.

I also had surgery for gynecomastia about 20 years ago, and so I don't have an issue with bitch tits from aromatization. However, I still get progestogenic flares from deca and tren.

The GH I'm taking is generic blue top Eurotropin from PSL.

As I have gotten older, my approach to training has shifted from heavier weight-lower rep, to lower weight-higher rep. This seems to be working just fine and helps with cardio which is huge being a firefighter.

Training

• Frequency - varies, depends on work schedule. Avg 4 days/wk
• Intensity - Moderately High (90 sec rest btw sets)
• Approach - Low - Mod weight, high rep
• Curated more for endurance/fitness

Diet

• 150 - 200 grams protein/day
• Calories/day = 3500-4000 (estimated)
• Meals: varies
• Frequency: varies. Usually 4-5 meals/24 hours

Sleep

• On duty: 0-4 hrs/night
• Off duty: 6-8 hrs/night

Health

• Major Depressive Disorder = Treated, stable
• Adult ADHD = Treated with medication; Significantly hinders tasks requiring sustained attention.
• Intermittent Explosive Disorder = Treated with medication. Routinely problematic, but hugely improved since beginning treatment
• Life Scan done annually
• Labs taken frequently (every other month or so on average)

Otherwise in good health


Supplements

• Liver protection when on dbol

Gear

Test Cyp - 600 wk
HGH - 4 IU/day


Injuries

• Rotator Cuff Tear - surgery recommended. May schedule sometime next year.

Goals

• Maintain good health status
• Maintain overall muscular appearance without drastic gains (not trying to be Mr. Olympia)
• Continue to perform job duties effectively (job heavily dependent on physical fitness)

Cardio

• Fighting structure fires (avg. 1 every week or so) = incredibly strenuous
• Stair climber 3-4 times/wk until I see spots or can't feel my legs

Welcome now fully to the EVO family @panic_jam after all these years we have a log.
Good to see you starting a full log, that’s exactly the kind of detail that helps us give solid feedback.
You’re juggling a tough firefighter schedule but still keeping training, diet, and recovery going, respect for that grind. EVO family big respect!

Test cyp 600mg with 4iu GH is a strong base but your protein needs to hit closer to 250g ed to match the workload, especially with those shifts and cardio intensity.
Tren or deca can both fit but let’s get a couple weeks of consistent logs first before changing anything so we can see how your recovery, sleep, and labs hold. though tbh I wouldn't touch tren with your job and temper, you're better off with eq or deca.

Post some current pics next time, face blurred of course, so we can see your base and muscle balance. It’ll help fine tune your setup around that shoulder issue too. Really easier to see from actual pics.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

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[panic_jam]

Thanks for the good feedback. Honestly brother, my biggest problem has always been calorie counting. As a desperate last resort to keep track of my diet to somewhat of a reasonable degree, I tend to become very repetitive/monotonous with my meals. I'll figure out the calories and macros of a particular meal, and just cook it over and over.

I would be interested in any general guidance in calorie counting. If anyone has figured out a good life hack for that, I'd love for you to share.

 

[panic_jam]

As for supplements, I'm not very sophisticated in that area. I mostly take TUCA and NAC.
Any suggestions in this area are certainly welcomed.

Also forgot to mention that I am starting a trial of BPC-157 soon. I'm not elderly yet, but no spring chicken either, and frequently get the dreaded "pains and strains" that just seem to happen. Will be my first experience with it. Honestly I'm skeptical and feel that most likely it's a snake oil fad. I just feel like if it had even 10% of the therapeutic effects as is claimed, some greedy pharmaceutical company would figure out someway to patent it, or patent a delivery mechanism (like an epi pen) and make money from it. I do so badly hope that I am wrong.

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks for the good feedback. Honestly brother, my biggest problem has always been calorie counting. As a desperate last resort to keep track of my diet to somewhat of a reasonable degree, I tend to become very repetitive/monotonous with my meals. I'll figure out the calories and macros of a particular meal, and just cook it over and over.

I would be interested in any general guidance in calorie counting. If anyone has figured out a good life hack for that, I'd love for you to share.

are you able to do some meal pics? you can do pics and auto count in apps like cronometer myfitnesspal @panic_jam

 

[LevButlerov]

As for supplements, I'm not very sophisticated in that area. I mostly take TUCA and NAC.
Any suggestions in this area are certainly welcomed.

Start with probiotics digestive enzymes psyllium ED can you do that?

 

[LevButlerov]

Also forgot to mention that I am starting a trial of BPC-157 soon. I'm not elderly yet, but no spring chicken either, and frequently get the dreaded "pains and strains" that just seem to happen. Will be my first experience with it. Honestly I'm skeptical and feel that most likely it's a snake oil fad. I just feel like if it had even 10% of the therapeutic effects as is claimed, some greedy pharmaceutical company would figure out someway to patent it, or patent a delivery mechanism (like an epi pen) and make money from it. I do so badly hope that I am wrong.

that's a start, bpc157 from what suppliers?

 

[LevButlerov]

Post some current pics next time, face blurred of course, so we can see your base and muscle balance. It’ll help fine tune your setup around that shoulder issue too. Really easier to see from actual pics.

can you get some pics up face blurred so we can see your base plase? @panic_jam

 

[Freki]

Log

Bio (from a previous post)

You are all such great brothers and I just can't tell you all how much I appreciate all of your feedback/guidance..., and I am SO FREAKING SORRY for how inconsistent I have been with my post. I work 24 on 48 off shifts as a firefighter/paramedic at a busy station and take a lot of overtime shifts, so many times that equates to 48 on 24 off for the week. I work out at work mostly. When I'm off, I'm usually either catching up on sleep or doing family stuff or catching up on house chores.

As for this stuff about a log, I really don't know what you want to know exactly.

As for a background,
I was very active as a veteran/vip of thesteroidworld for several years back when it was around, which at the time was known as being one of the most solid forums there was. So many brothers on there that I felt like I knew like family. It was shutdown not long after PEDs were getting a lot of media attention (when Mark McGuire, etc had to testify before a congressional committee). That was the last forum I was really apart of.

I'm now 48 years old. I am 5' 11" and weigh 220 lbs. My bf% is around 18 now. I lift weights, I take AAS occasionally, and I eat accordingly. Same thing I've done for over 20 years now.


For starters, I am currently taking test and GH. I did 4 weeks of dbol @ 30 mg/day plus liver protection and recently stopped. For cycles I prefer to mainly stick to test, but occassionally add tren or deca. My test dosage is 500/week, which I honestly don't feel is really doing very much at all... most likely because of the number of years I've taken test for muscle growth and for the last 4 years, TRT. I've always tried to take a relatively lower dose than what I probably needed to. So I have debated increasing my dose or adding some tren. I've always had a good response with tren. I also routinely have my labs drawn

Diet -- as much protein as possible. My target is 200 grams/day but it usually ends up being between 125-150 grams if my shift is busy.

I also had surgery for gynecomastia about 20 years ago, and so I don't have an issue with bitch tits from aromatization. However, I still get progestogenic flares from deca and tren.

The GH I'm taking is generic blue top Eurotropin from PSL.

As I have gotten older, my approach to training has shifted from heavier weight-lower rep, to lower weight-higher rep. This seems to be working just fine and helps with cardio which is huge being a firefighter.

Training

• Frequency - varies, depends on work schedule. Avg 4 days/wk
• Intensity - Moderately High (90 sec rest btw sets)
• Approach - Low - Mod weight, high rep
• Curated more for endurance/fitness

Diet

• 150 - 200 grams protein/day
• Calories/day = 3500-4000 (estimated)
• Meals: varies
• Frequency: varies. Usually 4-5 meals/24 hours

Sleep

• On duty: 0-4 hrs/night
• Off duty: 6-8 hrs/night

Health

• Major Depressive Disorder = Treated, stable
• Adult ADHD = Treated with medication; Significantly hinders tasks requiring sustained attention.
• Intermittent Explosive Disorder = Treated with medication. Routinely problematic, but hugely improved since beginning treatment
• Life Scan done annually
• Labs taken frequently (every other month or so on average)

Otherwise in good health


Supplements

• Liver protection when on dbol

Gear

Test Cyp - 600 wk
HGH - 4 IU/day


Injuries

• Rotator Cuff Tear - surgery recommended. May schedule sometime next year.

Goals

• Maintain good health status
• Maintain overall muscular appearance without drastic gains (not trying to be Mr. Olympia)
• Continue to perform job duties effectively (job heavily dependent on physical fitness)

Cardio

• Fighting structure fires (avg. 1 every week or so) = incredibly strenuous
• Stair climber 3-4 times/wk until I see spots or can't feel my legs

Welcome mate, let's see a physique pic (blurred face)

Congrats on getting a log started your in the right place.

 

[Allupfromhere]

Log

Bio (from a previous post)

You are all such great brothers and I just can't tell you all how much I appreciate all of your feedback/guidance..., and I am SO FREAKING SORRY for how inconsistent I have been with my post. I work 24 on 48 off shifts as a firefighter/paramedic at a busy station and take a lot of overtime shifts, so many times that equates to 48 on 24 off for the week. I work out at work mostly. When I'm off, I'm usually either catching up on sleep or doing family stuff or catching up on house chores.

As for this stuff about a log, I really don't know what you want to know exactly.

As for a background,
I was very active as a veteran/vip of thesteroidworld for several years back when it was around, which at the time was known as being one of the most solid forums there was. So many brothers on there that I felt like I knew like family. It was shutdown not long after PEDs were getting a lot of media attention (when Mark McGuire, etc had to testify before a congressional committee). That was the last forum I was really apart of.

I'm now 48 years old. I am 5' 11" and weigh 220 lbs. My bf% is around 18 now. I lift weights, I take AAS occasionally, and I eat accordingly. Same thing I've done for over 20 years now.


For starters, I am currently taking test and GH. I did 4 weeks of dbol @ 30 mg/day plus liver protection and recently stopped. For cycles I prefer to mainly stick to test, but occassionally add tren or deca. My test dosage is 500/week, which I honestly don't feel is really doing very much at all... most likely because of the number of years I've taken test for muscle growth and for the last 4 years, TRT. I've always tried to take a relatively lower dose than what I probably needed to. So I have debated increasing my dose or adding some tren. I've always had a good response with tren. I also routinely have my labs drawn

Diet -- as much protein as possible. My target is 200 grams/day but it usually ends up being between 125-150 grams if my shift is busy.

I also had surgery for gynecomastia about 20 years ago, and so I don't have an issue with bitch tits from aromatization. However, I still get progestogenic flares from deca and tren.

The GH I'm taking is generic blue top Eurotropin from PSL.

As I have gotten older, my approach to training has shifted from heavier weight-lower rep, to lower weight-higher rep. This seems to be working just fine and helps with cardio which is huge being a firefighter.

Training

• Frequency - varies, depends on work schedule. Avg 4 days/wk
• Intensity - Moderately High (90 sec rest btw sets)
• Approach - Low - Mod weight, high rep
• Curated more for endurance/fitness

Diet

• 150 - 200 grams protein/day
• Calories/day = 3500-4000 (estimated)
• Meals: varies
• Frequency: varies. Usually 4-5 meals/24 hours

Sleep

• On duty: 0-4 hrs/night
• Off duty: 6-8 hrs/night

Health

• Major Depressive Disorder = Treated, stable
• Adult ADHD = Treated with medication; Significantly hinders tasks requiring sustained attention.
• Intermittent Explosive Disorder = Treated with medication. Routinely problematic, but hugely improved since beginning treatment
• Life Scan done annually
• Labs taken frequently (every other month or so on average)

Otherwise in good health


Supplements

• Liver protection when on dbol

Gear

Test Cyp - 600 wk
HGH - 4 IU/day


Injuries

• Rotator Cuff Tear - surgery recommended. May schedule sometime next year.

Goals

• Maintain good health status
• Maintain overall muscular appearance without drastic gains (not trying to be Mr. Olympia)
• Continue to perform job duties effectively (job heavily dependent on physical fitness)

Cardio

• Fighting structure fires (avg. 1 every week or so) = incredibly strenuous
• Stair climber 3-4 times/wk until I see spots or can't feel my legs

Haha for a brother that was worried about how to kick of a log you absolutely nailed this one bro!! Lookg foward to following and supporting you on your journey

 

[Mobster]

All logs, even mine, are constant works in progress. We'll ask questions as we gol and you add to the info by way of replies etc. Look also at other logs for examples. Log entries only need to be 5 minutes a day

 

[stevesmi]

Log

Bio (from a previous post)

You are all such great brothers and I just can't tell you all how much I appreciate all of your feedback/guidance..., and I am SO FREAKING SORRY for how inconsistent I have been with my post. I work 24 on 48 off shifts as a firefighter/paramedic at a busy station and take a lot of overtime shifts, so many times that equates to 48 on 24 off for the week. I work out at work mostly. When I'm off, I'm usually either catching up on sleep or doing family stuff or catching up on house chores.

As for this stuff about a log, I really don't know what you want to know exactly.

As for a background,
I was very active as a veteran/vip of thesteroidworld for several years back when it was around, which at the time was known as being one of the most solid forums there was. So many brothers on there that I felt like I knew like family. It was shutdown not long after PEDs were getting a lot of media attention (when Mark McGuire, etc had to testify before a congressional committee). That was the last forum I was really apart of.

I'm now 48 years old. I am 5' 11" and weigh 220 lbs. My bf% is around 18 now. I lift weights, I take AAS occasionally, and I eat accordingly. Same thing I've done for over 20 years now.


For starters, I am currently taking test and GH. I did 4 weeks of dbol @ 30 mg/day plus liver protection and recently stopped. For cycles I prefer to mainly stick to test, but occassionally add tren or deca. My test dosage is 500/week, which I honestly don't feel is really doing very much at all... most likely because of the number of years I've taken test for muscle growth and for the last 4 years, TRT. I've always tried to take a relatively lower dose than what I probably needed to. So I have debated increasing my dose or adding some tren. I've always had a good response with tren. I also routinely have my labs drawn

Diet -- as much protein as possible. My target is 200 grams/day but it usually ends up being between 125-150 grams if my shift is busy.

I also had surgery for gynecomastia about 20 years ago, and so I don't have an issue with bitch tits from aromatization. However, I still get progestogenic flares from deca and tren.

The GH I'm taking is generic blue top Eurotropin from PSL.

As I have gotten older, my approach to training has shifted from heavier weight-lower rep, to lower weight-higher rep. This seems to be working just fine and helps with cardio which is huge being a firefighter.

Training

• Frequency - varies, depends on work schedule. Avg 4 days/wk
• Intensity - Moderately High (90 sec rest btw sets)
• Approach - Low - Mod weight, high rep
• Curated more for endurance/fitness

Diet

• 150 - 200 grams protein/day
• Calories/day = 3500-4000 (estimated)
• Meals: varies
• Frequency: varies. Usually 4-5 meals/24 hours

Sleep

• On duty: 0-4 hrs/night
• Off duty: 6-8 hrs/night

Health

• Major Depressive Disorder = Treated, stable
• Adult ADHD = Treated with medication; Significantly hinders tasks requiring sustained attention.
• Intermittent Explosive Disorder = Treated with medication. Routinely problematic, but hugely improved since beginning treatment
• Life Scan done annually
• Labs taken frequently (every other month or so on average)

Otherwise in good health


Supplements

• Liver protection when on dbol

Gear

Test Cyp - 600 wk
HGH - 4 IU/day


Injuries

• Rotator Cuff Tear - surgery recommended. May schedule sometime next year.

Goals

• Maintain good health status
• Maintain overall muscular appearance without drastic gains (not trying to be Mr. Olympia)
• Continue to perform job duties effectively (job heavily dependent on physical fitness)

Cardio

• Fighting structure fires (avg. 1 every week or so) = incredibly strenuous
• Stair climber 3-4 times/wk until I see spots or can't feel my legs

@panic_jam man that is a brutal schedule for your work. and a brutal job too. i hope you are paid a very good salary for having to endure that type of work schedule cause its not easy

 

[ceo]

Log

Bio (from a previous post)

You are all such great brothers and I just can't tell you all how much I appreciate all of your feedback/guidance..., and I am SO FREAKING SORRY for how inconsistent I have been with my post. I work 24 on 48 off shifts as a firefighter/paramedic at a busy station and take a lot of overtime shifts, so many times that equates to 48 on 24 off for the week. I work out at work mostly. When I'm off, I'm usually either catching up on sleep or doing family stuff or catching up on house chores.

As for this stuff about a log, I really don't know what you want to know exactly.

As for a background,
I was very active as a veteran/vip of thesteroidworld for several years back when it was around, which at the time was known as being one of the most solid forums there was. So many brothers on there that I felt like I knew like family. It was shutdown not long after PEDs were getting a lot of media attention (when Mark McGuire, etc had to testify before a congressional committee). That was the last forum I was really apart of.

I'm now 48 years old. I am 5' 11" and weigh 220 lbs. My bf% is around 18 now. I lift weights, I take AAS occasionally, and I eat accordingly. Same thing I've done for over 20 years now.


For starters, I am currently taking test and GH. I did 4 weeks of dbol @ 30 mg/day plus liver protection and recently stopped. For cycles I prefer to mainly stick to test, but occassionally add tren or deca. My test dosage is 500/week, which I honestly don't feel is really doing very much at all... most likely because of the number of years I've taken test for muscle growth and for the last 4 years, TRT. I've always tried to take a relatively lower dose than what I probably needed to. So I have debated increasing my dose or adding some tren. I've always had a good response with tren. I also routinely have my labs drawn

Diet -- as much protein as possible. My target is 200 grams/day but it usually ends up being between 125-150 grams if my shift is busy.

I also had surgery for gynecomastia about 20 years ago, and so I don't have an issue with bitch tits from aromatization. However, I still get progestogenic flares from deca and tren.

The GH I'm taking is generic blue top Eurotropin from PSL.

As I have gotten older, my approach to training has shifted from heavier weight-lower rep, to lower weight-higher rep. This seems to be working just fine and helps with cardio which is huge being a firefighter.

Training

• Frequency - varies, depends on work schedule. Avg 4 days/wk
• Intensity - Moderately High (90 sec rest btw sets)
• Approach - Low - Mod weight, high rep
• Curated more for endurance/fitness

Diet

• 150 - 200 grams protein/day
• Calories/day = 3500-4000 (estimated)
• Meals: varies
• Frequency: varies. Usually 4-5 meals/24 hours

Sleep

• On duty: 0-4 hrs/night
• Off duty: 6-8 hrs/night

Health

• Major Depressive Disorder = Treated, stable
• Adult ADHD = Treated with medication; Significantly hinders tasks requiring sustained attention.
• Intermittent Explosive Disorder = Treated with medication. Routinely problematic, but hugely improved since beginning treatment
• Life Scan done annually
• Labs taken frequently (every other month or so on average)

Otherwise in good health


Supplements

• Liver protection when on dbol

Gear

Test Cyp - 600 wk
HGH - 4 IU/day


Injuries

• Rotator Cuff Tear - surgery recommended. May schedule sometime next year.

Goals

• Maintain good health status
• Maintain overall muscular appearance without drastic gains (not trying to be Mr. Olympia)
• Continue to perform job duties effectively (job heavily dependent on physical fitness)

Cardio

• Fighting structure fires (avg. 1 every week or so) = incredibly strenuous
• Stair climber 3-4 times/wk until I see spots or can't feel my legs

bros test cyp 600mgs/week and hgh 4iu's is a big dose. you alone on that gonna do great. be careful on shoulders, depend on how strong the tear is can work around it @panic_jam

 

[Ulter]

Log

Bio (from a previous post)

You are all such great brothers and I just can't tell you all how much I appreciate all of your feedback/guidance..., and I am SO FREAKING SORRY for how inconsistent I have been with my post. I work 24 on 48 off shifts as a firefighter/paramedic at a busy station and take a lot of overtime shifts, so many times that equates to 48 on 24 off for the week. I work out at work mostly. When I'm off, I'm usually either catching up on sleep or doing family stuff or catching up on house chores.

As for this stuff about a log, I really don't know what you want to know exactly.

As for a background,
I was very active as a veteran/vip of thesteroidworld for several years back when it was around, which at the time was known as being one of the most solid forums there was. So many brothers on there that I felt like I knew like family. It was shutdown not long after PEDs were getting a lot of media attention (when Mark McGuire, etc had to testify before a congressional committee). That was the last forum I was really apart of.

I'm now 48 years old. I am 5' 11" and weigh 220 lbs. My bf% is around 18 now. I lift weights, I take AAS occasionally, and I eat accordingly. Same thing I've done for over 20 years now.


For starters, I am currently taking test and GH. I did 4 weeks of dbol @ 30 mg/day plus liver protection and recently stopped. For cycles I prefer to mainly stick to test, but occassionally add tren or deca. My test dosage is 500/week, which I honestly don't feel is really doing very much at all... most likely because of the number of years I've taken test for muscle growth and for the last 4 years, TRT. I've always tried to take a relatively lower dose than what I probably needed to. So I have debated increasing my dose or adding some tren. I've always had a good response with tren. I also routinely have my labs drawn

Diet -- as much protein as possible. My target is 200 grams/day but it usually ends up being between 125-150 grams if my shift is busy.

I also had surgery for gynecomastia about 20 years ago, and so I don't have an issue with bitch tits from aromatization. However, I still get progestogenic flares from deca and tren.

The GH I'm taking is generic blue top Eurotropin from PSL.

As I have gotten older, my approach to training has shifted from heavier weight-lower rep, to lower weight-higher rep. This seems to be working just fine and helps with cardio which is huge being a firefighter.

Training

• Frequency - varies, depends on work schedule. Avg 4 days/wk
• Intensity - Moderately High (90 sec rest btw sets)
• Approach - Low - Mod weight, high rep
• Curated more for endurance/fitness

Diet

• 150 - 200 grams protein/day
• Calories/day = 3500-4000 (estimated)
• Meals: varies
• Frequency: varies. Usually 4-5 meals/24 hours

Sleep

• On duty: 0-4 hrs/night
• Off duty: 6-8 hrs/night

Health

• Major Depressive Disorder = Treated, stable
• Adult ADHD = Treated with medication; Significantly hinders tasks requiring sustained attention.
• Intermittent Explosive Disorder = Treated with medication. Routinely problematic, but hugely improved since beginning treatment
• Life Scan done annually
• Labs taken frequently (every other month or so on average)

Otherwise in good health


Supplements

• Liver protection when on dbol

Gear

Test Cyp - 600 wk
HGH - 4 IU/day


Injuries

• Rotator Cuff Tear - surgery recommended. May schedule sometime next year.

Goals

• Maintain good health status
• Maintain overall muscular appearance without drastic gains (not trying to be Mr. Olympia)
• Continue to perform job duties effectively (job heavily dependent on physical fitness)

Cardio

• Fighting structure fires (avg. 1 every week or so) = incredibly strenuous
• Stair climber 3-4 times/wk until I see spots or can't feel my legs

nice to see you finally getting a log going. we have been pushing you for one lol @panic_jam make sure you get some pics up !

 

[2Thick]

Log

Bio (from a previous post)

You are all such great brothers and I just can't tell you all how much I appreciate all of your feedback/guidance..., and I am SO FREAKING SORRY for how inconsistent I have been with my post. I work 24 on 48 off shifts as a firefighter/paramedic at a busy station and take a lot of overtime shifts, so many times that equates to 48 on 24 off for the week. I work out at work mostly. When I'm off, I'm usually either catching up on sleep or doing family stuff or catching up on house chores.

As for this stuff about a log, I really don't know what you want to know exactly.

As for a background,
I was very active as a veteran/vip of thesteroidworld for several years back when it was around, which at the time was known as being one of the most solid forums there was. So many brothers on there that I felt like I knew like family. It was shutdown not long after PEDs were getting a lot of media attention (when Mark McGuire, etc had to testify before a congressional committee). That was the last forum I was really apart of.

I'm now 48 years old. I am 5' 11" and weigh 220 lbs. My bf% is around 18 now. I lift weights, I take AAS occasionally, and I eat accordingly. Same thing I've done for over 20 years now.


For starters, I am currently taking test and GH. I did 4 weeks of dbol @ 30 mg/day plus liver protection and recently stopped. For cycles I prefer to mainly stick to test, but occassionally add tren or deca. My test dosage is 500/week, which I honestly don't feel is really doing very much at all... most likely because of the number of years I've taken test for muscle growth and for the last 4 years, TRT. I've always tried to take a relatively lower dose than what I probably needed to. So I have debated increasing my dose or adding some tren. I've always had a good response with tren. I also routinely have my labs drawn

Diet -- as much protein as possible. My target is 200 grams/day but it usually ends up being between 125-150 grams if my shift is busy.

I also had surgery for gynecomastia about 20 years ago, and so I don't have an issue with bitch tits from aromatization. However, I still get progestogenic flares from deca and tren.

The GH I'm taking is generic blue top Eurotropin from PSL.

As I have gotten older, my approach to training has shifted from heavier weight-lower rep, to lower weight-higher rep. This seems to be working just fine and helps with cardio which is huge being a firefighter.

Training

• Frequency - varies, depends on work schedule. Avg 4 days/wk
• Intensity - Moderately High (90 sec rest btw sets)
• Approach - Low - Mod weight, high rep
• Curated more for endurance/fitness

Diet

• 150 - 200 grams protein/day
• Calories/day = 3500-4000 (estimated)
• Meals: varies
• Frequency: varies. Usually 4-5 meals/24 hours

Sleep

• On duty: 0-4 hrs/night
• Off duty: 6-8 hrs/night

Health

• Major Depressive Disorder = Treated, stable
• Adult ADHD = Treated with medication; Significantly hinders tasks requiring sustained attention.
• Intermittent Explosive Disorder = Treated with medication. Routinely problematic, but hugely improved since beginning treatment
• Life Scan done annually
• Labs taken frequently (every other month or so on average)

Otherwise in good health


Supplements

• Liver protection when on dbol

Gear

Test Cyp - 600 wk
HGH - 4 IU/day


Injuries

• Rotator Cuff Tear - surgery recommended. May schedule sometime next year.

Goals

• Maintain good health status
• Maintain overall muscular appearance without drastic gains (not trying to be Mr. Olympia)
• Continue to perform job duties effectively (job heavily dependent on physical fitness)

Cardio

• Fighting structure fires (avg. 1 every week or so) = incredibly strenuous
• Stair climber 3-4 times/wk until I see spots or can't feel my legs

@panic_jam are you able to train with that shoulder injury? what is the prognosis on recovery from that? i would think you would want to lay off of it for a while

 

[ROIDDERS]

Log

Bio (from a previous post)

You are all such great brothers and I just can't tell you all how much I appreciate all of your feedback/guidance..., and I am SO FREAKING SORRY for how inconsistent I have been with my post. I work 24 on 48 off shifts as a firefighter/paramedic at a busy station and take a lot of overtime shifts, so many times that equates to 48 on 24 off for the week. I work out at work mostly. When I'm off, I'm usually either catching up on sleep or doing family stuff or catching up on house chores.

As for this stuff about a log, I really don't know what you want to know exactly.

As for a background,
I was very active as a veteran/vip of thesteroidworld for several years back when it was around, which at the time was known as being one of the most solid forums there was. So many brothers on there that I felt like I knew like family. It was shutdown not long after PEDs were getting a lot of media attention (when Mark McGuire, etc had to testify before a congressional committee). That was the last forum I was really apart of.

I'm now 48 years old. I am 5' 11" and weigh 220 lbs. My bf% is around 18 now. I lift weights, I take AAS occasionally, and I eat accordingly. Same thing I've done for over 20 years now.


For starters, I am currently taking test and GH. I did 4 weeks of dbol @ 30 mg/day plus liver protection and recently stopped. For cycles I prefer to mainly stick to test, but occassionally add tren or deca. My test dosage is 500/week, which I honestly don't feel is really doing very much at all... most likely because of the number of years I've taken test for muscle growth and for the last 4 years, TRT. I've always tried to take a relatively lower dose than what I probably needed to. So I have debated increasing my dose or adding some tren. I've always had a good response with tren. I also routinely have my labs drawn

Diet -- as much protein as possible. My target is 200 grams/day but it usually ends up being between 125-150 grams if my shift is busy.

I also had surgery for gynecomastia about 20 years ago, and so I don't have an issue with bitch tits from aromatization. However, I still get progestogenic flares from deca and tren.

The GH I'm taking is generic blue top Eurotropin from PSL.

As I have gotten older, my approach to training has shifted from heavier weight-lower rep, to lower weight-higher rep. This seems to be working just fine and helps with cardio which is huge being a firefighter.

Training

• Frequency - varies, depends on work schedule. Avg 4 days/wk
• Intensity - Moderately High (90 sec rest btw sets)
• Approach - Low - Mod weight, high rep
• Curated more for endurance/fitness

Diet

• 150 - 200 grams protein/day
• Calories/day = 3500-4000 (estimated)
• Meals: varies
• Frequency: varies. Usually 4-5 meals/24 hours

Sleep

• On duty: 0-4 hrs/night
• Off duty: 6-8 hrs/night

Health

• Major Depressive Disorder = Treated, stable
• Adult ADHD = Treated with medication; Significantly hinders tasks requiring sustained attention.
• Intermittent Explosive Disorder = Treated with medication. Routinely problematic, but hugely improved since beginning treatment
• Life Scan done annually
• Labs taken frequently (every other month or so on average)

Otherwise in good health


Supplements

• Liver protection when on dbol

Gear

Test Cyp - 600 wk
HGH - 4 IU/day


Injuries

• Rotator Cuff Tear - surgery recommended. May schedule sometime next year.

Goals

• Maintain good health status
• Maintain overall muscular appearance without drastic gains (not trying to be Mr. Olympia)
• Continue to perform job duties effectively (job heavily dependent on physical fitness)

Cardio

• Fighting structure fires (avg. 1 every week or so) = incredibly strenuous
• Stair climber 3-4 times/wk until I see spots or can't feel my legs

This is a very nice summary right here. Now all we need from you is some pictures that will make the Log complete. @panic_jam

 

[panic_jam]

are you able to do some meal pics? you can do pics and auto count in apps like cronometer myfitnesspal @panic_jam

Seriously man? Had no idea. I actually used to use myfitnesspal but didn't know it could analyze pictures. I'm downloading it back on my phone right now. Thank you sir!

 

[panic_jam]

@panic_jam are you able to train with that shoulder injury? what is the prognosis on recovery from that? i would think you would want to lay off of it for a while

So yeah, about that. I stopped working out for at least a year after my injury and lost every gain I ever made it seems. I couldn't stand it anymore and was miserable not being in the gym, so I decided that something was better than nothing. I started back only doing squats, deadlifts, and very light bicep/tricep exercises... but any sort of "press" exercise is just out of the question. I have recently started to light (and I do mean light) shoulder presses and so far that has been going pretty well. It doesn't seem to make the injury worse and at least it's keeping shoulder tissue somewhat conditioned.

But to answer question, I will ultimately have to undergo surgery. I have asked a few different doctors including my own "how long can I go without the surgery?", and the answer has pretty much been the same: "Until you get tired of dealing with the pain."

Like I said, I lost a lot of gains. Before the injury I was a solid 210, reasonably defined, though certainly not competition level. I got down to 180, and it looked like I'd never touched a weight, almost. Now I'm heavier than I normally am because I've intentionally been trying to regain what I lost, but I'm not very defined... as my pictures will show. (I will try and get some up tonight).

 

[panic_jam]

nice to see you finally getting a log going. we have been pushing you for one lol @panic_jam make sure you get some pics up !

Thank you good brother. REALLY means a lot.

 

[LevButlerov]

Seriously man? Had no idea. I actually used to use myfitnesspal but didn't know it could analyze pictures. I'm downloading it back on my phone right now. Thank you sir!

my fitnesspal has it in the premium section but I think snapcalorie is something you can try as well @panic_jam

 

[2Thick]

So yeah, about that. I stopped working out for at least a year after my injury and lost every gain I ever made it seems. I couldn't stand it anymore and was miserable not being in the gym, so I decided that something was better than nothing. I started back only doing squats, deadlifts, and very light bicep/tricep exercises... but any sort of "press" exercise is just out of the question. I have recently started to light (and I do mean light) shoulder presses and so far that has been going pretty well. It doesn't seem to make the injury worse and at least it's keeping shoulder tissue somewhat conditioned.

But to answer question, I will ultimately have to undergo surgery. I have asked a few different doctors including my own "how long can I go without the surgery?", and the answer has pretty much been the same: "Until you get tired of dealing with the pain."

Like I said, I lost a lot of gains. Before the injury I was a solid 210, reasonably defined, though certainly not competition level. I got down to 180, and it looked like I'd never touched a weight, almost. Now I'm heavier than I normally am because I've intentionally been trying to regain what I lost, but I'm not very defined... as my pictures will show. (I will try and get some up tonight).

I'm sure you have great insurance when you're in your line of work, so you might as well just get the surgery, man. Just make sure you pick the right doctor.

 

[Ulter]

Thank you good brother. REALLY means a lot.

You are definitely going to kick ass. Don't worry.

 

[panic_jam]

Pics as promised. Like I said, I have a lot of work to do. Also, I truly believe that I have a genetic mutation that prevents my arms from growing.

These pics are actually discouraging for me. Kinda feels like I showed up to a big dick contest and pulled out the smallest pecker.

 

[Allupfromhere]

Pics as promised. Like I said, I have a lot of work to do. Also, I truly believe that I have a genetic mutation that prevents my arms from growing.

These pics are actually discouraging for me. Kinda feels like I showed up to a big dick contest and pulled out the smallest pecker.

Dont be too hard on yourself brother your thick as fuck whatever you think you lack in your arms has definitely made up for it in your chest. You got a good recipe to become a beast

 

[LevButlerov]

Pics as promised. Like I said, I have a lot of work to do. Also, I truly believe that I have a genetic mutation that prevents my arms from growing.

These pics are actually discouraging for me. Kinda feels like I showed up to a big dick contest and pulled out the smallest pecker.

You look really good in the pics I actually think your arms look good and thick! @panic_jam
and you should NOT be discouraged, you look much better than many and have a solid base we can work from.
EVO family supports you and we can do this, lets be positive

 

[LevButlerov]

Pics as promised. Like I said, I have a lot of work to do. Also, I truly believe that I have a genetic mutation that prevents my arms from growing.

These pics are actually discouraging for me. Kinda feels like I showed up to a big dick contest and pulled out the smallest pecker.

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @s.gentz @Dreamer @Freki

@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy @Madmax46

 

[Pigsy]

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @s.gentz @Dreamer @Freki

@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy @Madmax46

You made the first step brother, joining EVO and logging

 

[Dreamer]

You have some good arm size man, just need to trim some body fat, but you got some beasts under there, nice chest size too

 

[BeMe]

Pics as promised. Like I said, I have a lot of work to do. Also, I truly believe that I have a genetic mutation that prevents my arms from growing.

These pics are actually discouraging for me. Kinda feels like I showed up to a big dick contest and pulled out the smallest pecker.

There's big dick contests? Where and when lol

That's a hilarious metaphor there! You gotta be an Aussie right?

I can't get your pics to enlarge but judging from the thumbnail you have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of bro. Your physique is wayyyy above average and you're on track to keep making gains. No one is ever truly satisfied with their physique, it's why we all keep pushing. Don't think of it negatively like that..make it a positive and use it as fuel for the fire. You look great bro!

 

[waggat]

Pics as promised. Like I said, I have a lot of work to do. Also, I truly believe that I have a genetic mutation that prevents my arms from growing.

These pics are actually discouraging for me. Kinda feels like I showed up to a big dick contest and pulled out the smallest pecker.

Don't be hard on yourself mate! You're looking thick and have a great base. If you recomp you'll look jacked!

 

[Freki]

Pics as promised. Like I said, I have a lot of work to do. Also, I truly believe that I have a genetic mutation that prevents my arms from growing.

These pics are actually discouraging for me. Kinda feels like I showed up to a big dick contest and pulled out the smallest pecker.

Good on ya bro, throw it out there, cant wait to see your progress over next 6 months

 

[ballin2504]

Log

Bio (from a previous post)

You are all such great brothers and I just can't tell you all how much I appreciate all of your feedback/guidance..., and I am SO FREAKING SORRY for how inconsistent I have been with my post. I work 24 on 48 off shifts as a firefighter/paramedic at a busy station and take a lot of overtime shifts, so many times that equates to 48 on 24 off for the week. I work out at work mostly. When I'm off, I'm usually either catching up on sleep or doing family stuff or catching up on house chores.

As for this stuff about a log, I really don't know what you want to know exactly.

As for a background,
I was very active as a veteran/vip of thesteroidworld for several years back when it was around, which at the time was known as being one of the most solid forums there was. So many brothers on there that I felt like I knew like family. It was shutdown not long after PEDs were getting a lot of media attention (when Mark McGuire, etc had to testify before a congressional committee). That was the last forum I was really apart of.

I'm now 48 years old. I am 5' 11" and weigh 220 lbs. My bf% is around 18 now. I lift weights, I take AAS occasionally, and I eat accordingly. Same thing I've done for over 20 years now.


For starters, I am currently taking test and GH. I did 4 weeks of dbol @ 30 mg/day plus liver protection and recently stopped. For cycles I prefer to mainly stick to test, but occassionally add tren or deca. My test dosage is 500/week, which I honestly don't feel is really doing very much at all... most likely because of the number of years I've taken test for muscle growth and for the last 4 years, TRT. I've always tried to take a relatively lower dose than what I probably needed to. So I have debated increasing my dose or adding some tren. I've always had a good response with tren. I also routinely have my labs drawn

Diet -- as much protein as possible. My target is 200 grams/day but it usually ends up being between 125-150 grams if my shift is busy.

I also had surgery for gynecomastia about 20 years ago, and so I don't have an issue with bitch tits from aromatization. However, I still get progestogenic flares from deca and tren.

The GH I'm taking is generic blue top Eurotropin from PSL.

As I have gotten older, my approach to training has shifted from heavier weight-lower rep, to lower weight-higher rep. This seems to be working just fine and helps with cardio which is huge being a firefighter.

Training

• Frequency - varies, depends on work schedule. Avg 4 days/wk
• Intensity - Moderately High (90 sec rest btw sets)
• Approach - Low - Mod weight, high rep
• Curated more for endurance/fitness

Diet

• 150 - 200 grams protein/day
• Calories/day = 3500-4000 (estimated)
• Meals: varies
• Frequency: varies. Usually 4-5 meals/24 hours

Sleep

• On duty: 0-4 hrs/night
• Off duty: 6-8 hrs/night

Health

• Major Depressive Disorder = Treated, stable
• Adult ADHD = Treated with medication; Significantly hinders tasks requiring sustained attention.
• Intermittent Explosive Disorder = Treated with medication. Routinely problematic, but hugely improved since beginning treatment
• Life Scan done annually
• Labs taken frequently (every other month or so on average)

Otherwise in good health


Supplements

• Liver protection when on dbol

Gear

Test Cyp - 600 wk
HGH - 4 IU/day


Injuries

• Rotator Cuff Tear - surgery recommended. May schedule sometime next year.

Goals

• Maintain good health status
• Maintain overall muscular appearance without drastic gains (not trying to be Mr. Olympia)
• Continue to perform job duties effectively (job heavily dependent on physical fitness)

Cardio

• Fighting structure fires (avg. 1 every week or so) = incredibly strenuous
• Stair climber 3-4 times/wk until I see spots or can't feel my legs

@panic_jam welcome aboard brother. We are glad to have you here on evo. Let’s get it.

 

[panic_jam]

Just dropping an update. No real changes other than so tweaks to my diet. Adding at least one extra protein shake per day and adding another 500 calories/day to my diet for a bit to see how I do. I’m sorta in that catch 22 zone because I need the extra calories to support muscle growth, but I really don’t need to increase my body fat to any significant degree. After looking the pics I posted, I’m definitely over 20%.

Also, just thought I’d share this measurement device I got from Amazon in case it may interest anyone. It’s great and automatically saves the data into the app. Great for people like me with with stubborn arm muscles who want to keep close track of their gains (or lack of).

Hope all is well with everyone.

 

[Dreamer]

Just dropping an update. No real changes other than so tweaks to my diet. Adding at least one extra protein shake per day and adding another 500 calories/day to my diet for a bit to see how I do. I’m sorta in that catch 22 zone because I need the extra calories to support muscle growth, but I really don’t need to increase my body fat to any significant degree. After looking the pics I posted, I’m definitely over 20%.

Also, just thought I’d share this measurement device I got from Amazon in case it may interest anyone. It’s great and automatically saves the data into the app. Great for people like me with with stubborn arm muscles who want to keep close track of their gains (or lack of).

Hope all is well with everyone.

Just keep working the calories up slowly and watching how you gain.
Interested in how that device works for you.

 

[LevButlerov]

Just dropping an update. No real changes other than so tweaks to my diet. Adding at least one extra protein shake per day and adding another 500 calories/day to my diet for a bit to see how I do. I’m sorta in that catch 22 zone because I need the extra calories to support muscle growth, but I really don’t need to increase my body fat to any significant degree. After looking the pics I posted, I’m definitely over 20%.

Also, just thought I’d share this measurement device I got from Amazon in case it may interest anyone. It’s great and automatically saves the data into the app. Great for people like me with with stubborn arm muscles who want to keep close track of their gains (or lack of).

Hope all is well with everyone.

Good update and the extra shake plus a controlled 500 bump should help strength move while you track waist changes weekly. @panic_jam

Stay in that 200g+ protein range and keep carbs steady so you add muscle without drifting body fat up.

 

[panic_jam]

Not sure if this is the appropriate place to post meal recipe stuff..., but I wanted to share a high protein meal that I routinely prepare that will serve me at least 2-3 days, and it's easy to make.
I attached pictures of the main ingredients. Just added 2 lbs of lean hamburger meat, 2 tablespoons of olive oil, and pepper to taste. You'll end up with 4 meals.

Per meal:
Cal -------- 840
Fat -------- 31
Carbs ----- 77
Protein --- 60

*NOTE: The numbers above are based on exactly 2 lbs of meat. The weight per packaged pound is usually slightly higher.

1) Brown and drain the meat.
2) Add:

• 4 cups water
• Rice mix
• 28 oz can of crushed tomatoes
• 2 tablespoons olive oil
• Pepper
• Banana peppers (I add half of a 12 oz jar)
• Few splashes of Worcestershire sauce

3) Bring to a boil
4) Simmer on low for 30 min


This works great for me because it's quick and easy to make and I don't have to worry about meals when I'm on shift.
If anyone has their own quick, down-and-dirty recipe, please share.

(can't get the pictures to post upright )

 

[LevButlerov]

Not sure if this is the appropriate place to post meal recipe stuff..., but I wanted to share a high protein meal that I routinely prepare that will serve me at least 2-3 days, and it's easy to make.
I attached pictures of the main ingredients. Just added 2 lbs of lean hamburger meat, 2 tablespoons of olive oil, and pepper to taste. You'll end up with 4 meals.

Per meal:
Cal -------- 840
Fat -------- 31
Carbs ----- 77
Protein --- 60

*NOTE: The numbers above are based on exactly 2 lbs of meat. The weight per packaged pound is usually slightly higher.

1) Brown and drain the meat.
2) Add:

• 4 cups water
• Rice mix
• 28 oz can of crushed tomatoes
• 2 tablespoons olive oil
• Pepper
• Banana peppers (I add half of a 12 oz jar)
• Few splashes of Worcestershire sauce

3) Bring to a boil
4) Simmer on low for 30 min


This works great for me because it's quick and easy to make and I don't have to worry about meals when I'm on shift.
If anyone has their own quick, down-and-dirty recipe, please share.

(can't get the pictures to post upright )

This is the very much perfect place to post meals and that prep looks solid @panic_jam
Easy bulk prep like this is exactly what we need, good ratios too 60 grams of protein is perfect!
and personally I think it looks beautiful

 

[Mobster]

Perfectly fine to post it here. Equally I think there is a recipe thread you can add it too

 

[stevesmi]

Not sure if this is the appropriate place to post meal recipe stuff..., but I wanted to share a high protein meal that I routinely prepare that will serve me at least 2-3 days, and it's easy to make.
I attached pictures of the main ingredients. Just added 2 lbs of lean hamburger meat, 2 tablespoons of olive oil, and pepper to taste. You'll end up with 4 meals.

Per meal:
Cal -------- 840
Fat -------- 31
Carbs ----- 77
Protein --- 60

*NOTE: The numbers above are based on exactly 2 lbs of meat. The weight per packaged pound is usually slightly higher.

1) Brown and drain the meat.
2) Add:

• 4 cups water
• Rice mix
• 28 oz can of crushed tomatoes
• 2 tablespoons olive oil
• Pepper
• Banana peppers (I add half of a 12 oz jar)
• Few splashes of Worcestershire sauce

3) Bring to a boil
4) Simmer on low for 30 min


This works great for me because it's quick and easy to make and I don't have to worry about meals when I'm on shift.
If anyone has their own quick, down-and-dirty recipe, please share.

(can't get the pictures to post upright )

@panic_jam hey man really appreciates this easy recipe! that will help people. you are the man ! check out @MarkNV log he has tons of recipes too! and my log does as well

 

[MarkNV]

@panic_jam hey man really appreciates this easy recipe! that will help people. you are the man ! check out @MarkNV log he has tons of recipes too! and my log does as well

I like this one!! I think I would roast fresh tomatoes on the the smoker, skin them and crush them myself. With the peppers it is almost like a Mediterranean chili!!
Yummy!!!

 

[ceo]

Not sure if this is the appropriate place to post meal recipe stuff..., but I wanted to share a high protein meal that I routinely prepare that will serve me at least 2-3 days, and it's easy to make.
I attached pictures of the main ingredients. Just added 2 lbs of lean hamburger meat, 2 tablespoons of olive oil, and pepper to taste. You'll end up with 4 meals.

Per meal:
Cal -------- 840
Fat -------- 31
Carbs ----- 77
Protein --- 60

*NOTE: The numbers above are based on exactly 2 lbs of meat. The weight per packaged pound is usually slightly higher.

1) Brown and drain the meat.
2) Add:

• 4 cups water
• Rice mix
• 28 oz can of crushed tomatoes
• 2 tablespoons olive oil
• Pepper
• Banana peppers (I add half of a 12 oz jar)
• Few splashes of Worcestershire sauce

3) Bring to a boil
4) Simmer on low for 30 min


This works great for me because it's quick and easy to make and I don't have to worry about meals when I'm on shift.
If anyone has their own quick, down-and-dirty recipe, please share.

(can't get the pictures to post upright )

bros post up meals for sure why not. we want to see what you eating and how you prepping too. my wife cooks my food but i want to learn in case she leaves me for another BBC @panic_jam

 

[MarkNV]

bros post up meals for sure why not. we want to see what you eating and how you prepping too. my wife cooks my food but i want to learn in case she leaves me for another BBC @panic_jam

@ceo Bro, put some Cholula on it and she will stick to that BBC for life!!

 

[Ulter]

Not sure if this is the appropriate place to post meal recipe stuff..., but I wanted to share a high protein meal that I routinely prepare that will serve me at least 2-3 days, and it's easy to make.
I attached pictures of the main ingredients. Just added 2 lbs of lean hamburger meat, 2 tablespoons of olive oil, and pepper to taste. You'll end up with 4 meals.

Per meal:
Cal -------- 840
Fat -------- 31
Carbs ----- 77
Protein --- 60

*NOTE: The numbers above are based on exactly 2 lbs of meat. The weight per packaged pound is usually slightly higher.

1) Brown and drain the meat.
2) Add:

• 4 cups water
• Rice mix
• 28 oz can of crushed tomatoes
• 2 tablespoons olive oil
• Pepper
• Banana peppers (I add half of a 12 oz jar)
• Few splashes of Worcestershire sauce

3) Bring to a boil
4) Simmer on low for 30 min


This works great for me because it's quick and easy to make and I don't have to worry about meals when I'm on shift.
If anyone has their own quick, down-and-dirty recipe, please share.

(can't get the pictures to post upright )

i wonder how it would taste if you used fresh beans @panic_jam and not out of cans. i think overall thats a good protein meal!

 

[ROIDDERS]

Not sure if this is the appropriate place to post meal recipe stuff..., but I wanted to share a high protein meal that I routinely prepare that will serve me at least 2-3 days, and it's easy to make.
I attached pictures of the main ingredients. Just added 2 lbs of lean hamburger meat, 2 tablespoons of olive oil, and pepper to taste. You'll end up with 4 meals.

Per meal:
Cal -------- 840
Fat -------- 31
Carbs ----- 77
Protein --- 60

*NOTE: The numbers above are based on exactly 2 lbs of meat. The weight per packaged pound is usually slightly higher.

1) Brown and drain the meat.
2) Add:

• 4 cups water
• Rice mix
• 28 oz can of crushed tomatoes
• 2 tablespoons olive oil
• Pepper
• Banana peppers (I add half of a 12 oz jar)
• Few splashes of Worcestershire sauce

3) Bring to a boil
4) Simmer on low for 30 min


This works great for me because it's quick and easy to make and I don't have to worry about meals when I'm on shift.
If anyone has their own quick, down-and-dirty recipe, please share.

(can't get the pictures to post upright )

@panic_jam how are you doing on the digestion with that? Are you taking some enzymes? Seems like that's a lot of spices and a lot of tough to digest nutrition, but it's a good mix you put together a lot of people can't handle tomatoes and that sort of thing.

 

[2Thick]

Not sure if this is the appropriate place to post meal recipe stuff..., but I wanted to share a high protein meal that I routinely prepare that will serve me at least 2-3 days, and it's easy to make.
I attached pictures of the main ingredients. Just added 2 lbs of lean hamburger meat, 2 tablespoons of olive oil, and pepper to taste. You'll end up with 4 meals.

Per meal:
Cal -------- 840
Fat -------- 31
Carbs ----- 77
Protein --- 60

*NOTE: The numbers above are based on exactly 2 lbs of meat. The weight per packaged pound is usually slightly higher.

1) Brown and drain the meat.
2) Add:

• 4 cups water
• Rice mix
• 28 oz can of crushed tomatoes
• 2 tablespoons olive oil
• Pepper
• Banana peppers (I add half of a 12 oz jar)
• Few splashes of Worcestershire sauce

3) Bring to a boil
4) Simmer on low for 30 min


This works great for me because it's quick and easy to make and I don't have to worry about meals when I'm on shift.
If anyone has their own quick, down-and-dirty recipe, please share.

(can't get the pictures to post upright )

I had no clue you were a whiz in the kitchen as well. We got some really good cooks on here. Did you go to school for this or is this something that's just a hobby? @panic_jam

 

[BeMe]

Not sure if this is the appropriate place to post meal recipe stuff..., but I wanted to share a high protein meal that I routinely prepare that will serve me at least 2-3 days, and it's easy to make.
I attached pictures of the main ingredients. Just added 2 lbs of lean hamburger meat, 2 tablespoons of olive oil, and pepper to taste. You'll end up with 4 meals.

Per meal:
Cal -------- 840
Fat -------- 31
Carbs ----- 77
Protein --- 60

*NOTE: The numbers above are based on exactly 2 lbs of meat. The weight per packaged pound is usually slightly higher.

1) Brown and drain the meat.
2) Add:

• 4 cups water
• Rice mix
• 28 oz can of crushed tomatoes
• 2 tablespoons olive oil
• Pepper
• Banana peppers (I add half of a 12 oz jar)
• Few splashes of Worcestershire sauce

3) Bring to a boil
4) Simmer on low for 30 min


This works great for me because it's quick and easy to make and I don't have to worry about meals when I'm on shift.
If anyone has their own quick, down-and-dirty recipe, please share.

(can't get the pictures to post upright )

A meal any man can make. I like the thoughtfulness that went into this post. Thanks bro.

 

[RoySimpson]

Not sure if this is the appropriate place to post meal recipe stuff..., but I wanted to share a high protein meal that I routinely prepare that will serve me at least 2-3 days, and it's easy to make.
I attached pictures of the main ingredients. Just added 2 lbs of lean hamburger meat, 2 tablespoons of olive oil, and pepper to taste. You'll end up with 4 meals.

Per meal:
Cal -------- 840
Fat -------- 31
Carbs ----- 77
Protein --- 60

*NOTE: The numbers above are based on exactly 2 lbs of meat. The weight per packaged pound is usually slightly higher.

1) Brown and drain the meat.
2) Add:

• 4 cups water
• Rice mix
• 28 oz can of crushed tomatoes
• 2 tablespoons olive oil
• Pepper
• Banana peppers (I add half of a 12 oz jar)
• Few splashes of Worcestershire sauce

3) Bring to a boil
4) Simmer on low for 30 min


This works great for me because it's quick and easy to make and I don't have to worry about meals when I'm on shift.
If anyone has their own quick, down-and-dirty recipe, please share.

(can't get the pictures to post upright )

@panic_jam food prep is on point bro!

 

[ceo]

@ceo Bro, put some Cholula on it and she will stick to that BBC for life!!

bros haha. not sure if she like adding it to asian dishes

 

[MarkNV]

bros haha. not sure if she like adding it to asian dishes

Kung Pao Cholula!!!

 

[ceo]

Kung Pao Cholula!!!

bros hell yeahs. you should invent an asian version

 

[panic_jam]

@panic_jam how are you doing on the digestion with that? Are you taking some enzymes? Seems like that's a lot of spices and a lot of tough to digest nutrition, but it's a good mix you put together a lot of people can't handle tomatoes and that sort of thing.

Fortunately I haven't had any issues. Fingers crossed it will stay that way

 

[panic_jam]

I had no clue you were a whiz in the kitchen as well. We got some really good cooks on here. Did you go to school for this or is this something that's just a hobby? @panic_jam

Brother, I could screw up a bowl of cereal—definitely no cooking talent. I was looking for something high in protein and easy to make. Basically, I just added ingredients to the recipe on the box (more beef, and the tomato and banana peppers), and hoped it would work out. It turned out fairly decent.

 

[panic_jam]

**LAB UPDATE**

So I am prescribed TRT and mistakenly thought I had another 3 months before I had to update my labs. I decided to hold off on taking any test the week before my labs were scheduled, hoping that my levels would drop low enough for my prescriber to refill my TRT. My prescriber by the way is cool, and knows I cycle, but obviously can't prescribe me testosterone if my levels were outrageously high.

So after about 4-5 weeks on 600mg test/wk and holding off a week, here are the results. Does this look right to you guys? I really expected my levels to have been a little higher.

 

[panic_jam]

I think I posted that in the wrong thread

 

[2Thick]

Brother, I could screw up a bowl of cereal—definitely no cooking talent. I was looking for something high in protein and easy to make. Basically, I just added ingredients to the recipe on the box (more beef, and the tomato and banana peppers), and hoped it would work out. It turned out fairly decent.

Some people are like that. You should try it though and try to learn your best.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Fortunately I haven't had any issues. Fingers crossed it will stay that way

well if something happens that is why a log is important. so you can look at the food that caused it

 

[RoidRage69]

Get the surgery scheduled.

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Not sure if this is the appropriate place to post meal recipe stuff..., but I wanted to share a high protein meal that I routinely prepare that will serve me at least 2-3 days, and it's easy to make.
I attached pictures of the main ingredients. Just added 2 lbs of lean hamburger meat, 2 tablespoons of olive oil, and pepper to taste. You'll end up with 4 meals.

Per meal:
Cal -------- 840
Fat -------- 31
Carbs ----- 77
Protein --- 60

*NOTE: The numbers above are based on exactly 2 lbs of meat. The weight per packaged pound is usually slightly higher.

1) Brown and drain the meat.
2) Add:

• 4 cups water
• Rice mix
• 28 oz can of crushed tomatoes
• 2 tablespoons olive oil
• Pepper
• Banana peppers (I add half of a 12 oz jar)
• Few splashes of Worcestershire sauce

3) Bring to a boil
4) Simmer on low for 30 min


This works great for me because it's quick and easy to make and I don't have to worry about meals when I'm on shift.
If anyone has their own quick, down-and-dirty recipe, please share.

(can't get the pictures to post upright )

@panic_jam Good updates.......

 

[panic_jam]

Hope everyone had a happy and safe Thanksgiving!

No real changes on my end. I'm still puzzled as to why my test levels (posted above) were not significantly higher, and it's only logical that I'm now questioning whether I may have gotten a batch that was underdosed. To reiterate, I had been on 600 mg of Testosterone for several weeks and only took one week off from it because I knew that I had to get bloodwork for TRT refills, and still thought it would come back too high to get the refill. (I mistakenly thought I had another 3 months to worry about labs for me TRT, so it was sorta last minute that I realized..., which is why I was only able to skip one week)

I'm back full speed now with the test and in a couple of weeks I'm gonna get another lab test. If it comes back any less than 3000, I'm chunking it.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hope everyone had a happy and safe Thanksgiving!

No real changes on my end. I'm still puzzled as to why my test levels (posted above) were not significantly higher, and it's only logical that I'm now questioning whether I may have gotten a batch that was underdosed. To reiterate, I had been on 600 mg of Testosterone for several weeks and only took one week off from it because I knew that I had to get bloodwork for TRT refills, and still thought it would come back too high to get the refill. (I mistakenly thought I had another 3 months to worry about labs for me TRT, so it was sorta last minute that I realized..., which is why I was only able to skip one week)

I'm back full speed now with the test and in a couple of weeks I'm gonna get another lab test. If it comes back any less than 3000, I'm chunking it.

with 600mg test your serum should in theory be higher but hard to say.
you could have metabolized it fasted etc
or pin it wrong, can you show us how much you pinned please?

**LAB UPDATE**

So I am prescribed TRT and mistakenly thought I had another 3 months before I had to update my labs. I decided to hold off on taking any test the week before my labs were scheduled, hoping that my levels would drop low enough for my prescriber to refill my TRT. My prescriber by the way is cool, and knows I cycle, but obviously can't prescribe me testosterone if my levels were outrageously high.

So after about 4-5 weeks on 600mg test/wk and holding off a week, here are the results. Does this look right to you guys? I really expected my levels to have been a little higher.

this looks right, sorry I missed this post @panic_jam testosterone has a long half life dont be surprised at any type of tests, who knows how you metabolize it

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy

 

[Dreamer]

with 600mg test your serum should in theory be higher but hard to say.
you could have metabolized it fasted etc
or pin it wrong, can you show us how much you pinned please?

this looks right, sorry I missed this post @panic_jam testosterone has a long half life dont be surprised at any type of tests, who knows how you metabolize it

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy

Doing labs a week after last dose probably isnt ideal to ascertain if its underdosed or not too, how often were you pinning before that

 

[LevButlerov]

Doing labs a week after last dose probably isnt ideal to ascertain if its underdosed or not too, how often were you pinning before that

@Dreamer can you please quote the OP in the future
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-and-hgh-cycle-log.107510/post-1900702
click on who I quoted and quote him. thank you

 

[Dreamer]

@Dreamer can you please quote the OP in the future
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-and-hgh-cycle-log.107510/post-1900702
click on who I quoted and quote him. thank you

My apologies, didnt realise I had done that

 

[panic_jam]

Doing labs a week after last dose probably isnt ideal to ascertain if its underdosed or not too, how often were you pinning before that

I was injecting 300 mg twice/week -- 3 days apart.

I don't know fellas. I'm using the same source that I've used for years and never had a problem. Coincidentally, these lab results have come on the heels of two other issues that seemed a little sketchy.
First, the labeling of the products used to be very professionally applied. The lettering in previous purchases was laser printed right onto the bottle. Now the bottles are labeled with the same kind of peel-off stickers that are used to stick on your windshield after getting an oil change. It just peels right off. I realize that doesn't necessarily mean anything, but I did think it was odd that there was a switch from something very professional appearing to a plastic peel-off sticker wrapped around the bottle.

Secondly, after getting such unexpectedly low test numbers, I went to the manufacturer's website listed on the plastic sticker to confirm the lot #. However, the website had been taken down. I have visited the website off and on, and it was always up and running. Not too sure what to make of it.

Regardless, I'm just gonna keep on keeping on. If the gear is bunk, I will know for sure in another week or so..., and if it is, oh well, lesson learned.


I wonder if there is a lab where you can send samples of your gear to get tested. If not, there should be..., and the person who does it will probably be driving a new Porsche in under a year

 

[LevButlerov]

My apologies, didnt realise I had done that

No problem many do it who I @ , I didnt tell anyone I should have , this way when you quote the OP they can know your response, now only I do @Dreamer