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Scammed by a trusted seller Steven Swatsky Big Waz Big time scammer
- Thread starter MrWonderful
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Where was he tagged as a approved seller?
In a previous post
LevButlerov A “veteran mod” tagged the fkn scammer
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That isnt to tag him as a verified seller, not saying your wrong but @LevButlerov has not listed him as a seller - Lev can you look into this?
Lev clearly tagged him
My arm was not twisted into sending this fag 2k but I definitely trusted that STEVEN SAWATSKY aka @Bigwaz was trusted and good to go!
Bigswaz
SUSPENDED 2025 - Scamming
No one ever messaged me, I sent my info to him yes this is correct, as for receiving any money or making and deals never happened. I’m not a trusted seller at all on this site or am I a seller at all. That’s what our approved sources are for. Check the messages I even asked why he never messaged me? Second my name isn’t even Steven sawatsky totally different last name not the same person he did his deal with? I would have directed him to either fusion or PUR as their the trusted providers on this site. I have zero anything to do with what this new member with 1 post is talking about. I take zero liability when it comes to him sending miney to who ever he sent money to or bought products from but it sure as heck wasn’t me. Why would I sell products when I buy them off our suppliers on this site myslef
And as proof you can read through my messages mods with @BCGains and see we’ve been talking about sources and even I wouldn’t give mine out to him until my stuff landed to ensure his own safety
And as proof you can read through my messages mods with @BCGains and see we’ve been talking about sources and even I wouldn’t give mine out to him until my stuff landed to ensure his own safety
@MrWonderful you sure you got the right guy? Bigswaz does order off our trusted sources here.
@Bigswaz I remember you saying you had an online nutrition company tho. Can you elaborate a bit on that.
And you only msgd me today after I hit you saying the fake tracking number you provided wasn’t working ! Thinking that would prove it wasn’t you or something but your too stupid to realize you clearly gave me your number and told me to hit you on WhatsApp so I did and you fucken scammed me
Bigswaz
SUSPENDED 2025 - Scamming
My company sells water machines not nutrition products
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Are you not able to use your own two eyes and look at the screenshots I provided
Is this source you or @BCGains ?
Are you not able to use your own two eyes and look at the screenshots I provided
speak his side? He fucken clearly scammed me I told him to either refund mY money or ship what I paid for
Bigswaz
SUSPENDED 2025 - Scamming
No one is my source, we talk about sources in china, and give some back and fourth when he asked about mine I said I didn’t want to give it to him until my product landed to ensure his safety and didn’t have his package held at the border. This is the type of person I am I ensure the safety of our members. I never got any messages from @MrWonderful like I said to him already I’m sorry what happened to him but no one ever made any deals with me
You can tag whoever you want in here you scamming scumbag but it’s fucken clear as day what you did ! You sent me your phone number that I called you on today you said you sent me your number in Evo bla bla bla why is this even a question it’s clear he scammed me lol just view the screenshots guys
What do you mean you never got any msgs from me it’s all above in the screenshots ya big dummy! Like what was your plan here to just scamm means not have any repercussions and the worst part is how you fucking acted like you cared about the previous guys that scammed me and kept saying that I’m in good hands and I told you that money is tight because it’s the holidays and you don’t give a fuck because you’re a self-centered piece of shit
Bigswaz
SUSPENDED 2025 - Scamming
Yes you did call me today and I explained to you like I am with everyone else you never sent me any money I’ve never talked to you or gotten any messages from you until today. That’s why I went to the rcmp and filed a report on you after you treated me even after explaining to you that you never talked to me or sent me money or did any deals with me. But you clearly still wanted to take your rage out on me m, and then come on here and do the same.
Again like I told you I’m sorry you had these issues but you’ll be dealing with th rcmp after all the death threats
Yea and your screenshots just show he said he would help you and WhatsApp you. Then he asks if you found someone else. Doesn't say anything about orders.
Bro I tried to help you @MrWonderful
I Dmed you all the info for Nordic fusion and you didn't even reply and obviously you didn't listen either
Like what kind of fucking scumbag does this to a person view the message of me saying to him that money is tight with the holidays around the corner and he responds with don’t worry you’re in good hands fucking scamming self-centered piece of shit. Only cares about himself. @Bigswaz karma will rear her head
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He sent me his fucking number on WhatsApp and it’s the same number that I provided screenshots on so what are you talking about?
Screenshots below of our WhatsApp conversations after he sent me his info on this Evo forum
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Man I don't know what to tell you. Nothing you're sharing is really definitive proof and it sounds like you've been sending death threats and now the cops are involved which means I'm out.
Like I said I tried to help you bro. Sent you to our most trusted source...instead you take another risk and get scammed again. Next time just message Nordic Fusion. Hopefully you learn your lesson this time.
A couple famous quotes come to mind.
"A fool and his money are soon parted"
"A cheap man pays twice" or in your case 3 times bro. Stick to approved sources, not random guys on the internet.
Bigswaz
SUSPENDED 2025 - Scamming
Sigh… again I never got any messages from you. You’re pointing your anger in the wrong direction. I can sit here and argue until my head boil but that’s to exhausting. I’m sorry for what happened to you man I never got anything from you until you called me today and I didn’t even know who you were. Then the death threats ect ect. I’m sorry I really am but who ever you sent money to and were talking to wasn’t me…
I’m done defending myself with someone who’s angry at the wrong guy.
Nothing i’m showing provides definitive proof. Are you fucking nuts? Do your eyes not work view the WhatsApp conversations with the number that he provided me on your Forum.
Shut up, you know you scammed me! Live with yourself you fucking scumbag
Wait you saying you are not the guy in WhatsApp? Screenshot
@MrWonderful
You need to take this down a notch. You need to provide and organized explanation of what you say has transpired. Yelling and carrying on is not going to help. You have a bunch of screen shots from someone who you can’t prove who it is.
You need to show proof tying someone from this site to the WhatsApp or a phone conversation that ended with you losing money by a member here.
This is why we do not use sources outside of the proven sponsors on this site.
Bigswaz
SUSPENDED 2025 - Scamming
Once again I’m not the one in any WhatsApp screen shots. I never got any message on what’s app zero. I didn’t hear from him until he called my number that I have him in our messages on THIS FOURM. As far as that I never spoke to him
That’s exactly what he is trying to fucken say even though he clearly provided the exact number that I hit up! Also he only replied to the dm herein evo today asking if I found someone is because I dm’d him saying the tracking is not working so he tried to cover his ass by sending that msg
This is not you sending him an offer “what are you looking for I can send you prices” ? This is not you or you?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-big-waz-big-time-scammer.108111/post-1912232
Post DM screenshots here please
You are dumb as fuck man you clearly sent me that number to hit up which I did and got scammed by YOU!!!!!
Bigswaz
SUSPENDED 2025 - Scamming
Once again no it’s not. I never got any messages from him on any apps. Only time I heard from him is when he called yelling at me today
How did he get your phone number if not you?
@MrWonderful please show the screenshots of DM messages from @Bigswaz which contain the phone number in the WhatsApp screenshot
Show us DM where he sent you this number please
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-big-waz-big-time-scammer.108111/post-1912398
OK, yes clearly I’m hot right now because I just got scammed for $2000 I will try to be as clear as possible so I made a post in here a while back, saying I was scammed by steroidhubcanada and @LevButlerov replied and tagged Nordic fusion, and then below that tagged @Bigswaz then a week ago I went back to that original post and DM a few people that live tagged big Waz was the first person to my DM which I will provide in the below attachments he then sent me his number and told me to WhatsApp him so I did. He sent me his list and it’s the exact same number that he provided in this evo Forum DM
He provided two fake tracking numbers when I messaged him today, asking him to double check the tracking numbers he didn’t respond and removed his number from WhatsApp I then called him. He answered, acted like he didn’t know me, but it was exact same number that I was talking to him via WhatsApp and I will attach the screenshots below of our WhatsApp conversation as well kindly view the highlighted number. It’s the exact same as provided in the Evo DM so I don’t understand what the confusion is here when he clearly scammed me.
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Bigswaz
SUSPENDED 2025 - Scamming
That’s the message
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He provided it in the DM‘s in this Evo forum
Yes that’s exactly it and here is the number on what’s up and it’s your phone number and here’s my initial text message to him because he wasn’t answering via WhatsApp anymore because he deleted his number off of it thinking he’s slick but he’s just a stupid scammer
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Why were you telling him to WhatsApp you?
Bigswaz
SUSPENDED 2025 - Scamming
I was going to help him out. Atleast on WhatsApp it’s encrypted. Lesson learned should have just told him to use the approve sources in our DM on this site forum instead.
I’ll be clear tho, I never recieved any messages on what’s app, I waited a few days figuring he was going to message me. Then today I messaged him on this forum on this site back asking if he got the help he was looking for. A few hours later I got a phone call while I was cooking supper and he acted like I knew who he was. I hadn’t a clue I was like a deer in the headlights when he kept telling me I knew exactly who he was and what I did. I never messaged him I never got any messages I never sent any products and I never asked recieved any money from said member above. The first time spoke with him outside of the forum was today when he called threatening me when I hadn’t a clue who he was
The confusion is you coming here acting all crazy man. It's hard to tell if you're legit or just some online psycho cuz the way you approached this entire thing.
Anyone can make screenshots now with basic AI prompts. It requires no computer skills. So if you came in like can calm logical normal person I woulda believed you more. The way you're acting raises a lot of doubt in my head and I'm sure other people's as well.
I responded to your DM an hour and 10 mins after you sent it.
According to your screenshots you already had @Bigswaz phone number before you messaged me.
Something seems really off here, @Bigswaz has gone through all the steps right to the point of a sale, but never went through with it, yet @MrWonderful has clearly sent funds somewhere.
A real lesson that members should not be engaging in any type of transaction other than with approved vendors, on both sides.
A real lesson that members should not be engaging in any type of transaction other than with approved vendors, on both sides.
You need to provide proof tying him to this. You keep saying that his number but unless I missed something I don’t see him being tied to that number or WhatsApp.
Yes and unfortunately for me bigswazz replied b4 and I went with him BIG mistake! Here I will post a video of our WhatsApp conversation maybe that will help clear any doubts you may have
He provided that number in the Evo message and then its at the top of the whatsapp
But does the number tie to another forum member. Where is it said that that is his phone number number? If he’s gonna make accusations he needs to have backup.
This again is why we don’t go outside of forum sponsors. If you do then your are at your own risk. If these two guys are making deals through this site they both need to be banned.
View screen recording I could only send a video this short so kindly view them all
You do realize that you came on here as a new member and then did what we try to discourage people from doing for this exact reason.
As far as I’m concerned both of you should be banned and you guys can hash it out between the two of you. There is no reason to air this on EVO.
You guys fucked up.
He said it’s his number and to hit him up! Sure if you guys need to ban me that’s fine! Just know big Waz is a scumbag scammer !!
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Bigswaz
SUSPENDED 2025 - Scamming
Never talked to him outside of the forum, never messaged him on WhatsApp, never had any conversations outside of our DMs. I have no idea who he’s talking to in any of those photos he’s posted. If banning a member who’s actually made a reputation here helping others and being apart of the community for the last 11 months so be it I’ll walk away myself. I’ve explained all that I can and honestly I’m sorry I even attempted to help him outside of the forum. Those conversations are not with me and no money anything was ever given to me.
Bro it’s at the top of all the WhatsApp Screenshots I provided
Here it is
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Is this not your number lol you clearly provided it in the evo chat
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Any name can be assigned to a new contact on WhatsApp. Tie him to that number using screenshots from this site.
You have not proved anything so far. You have gone outside of any help on this site by doing what you did.
Deal with this person whoever they are in private. You did it that way anyway and it bit you and now you expect help. Not gonna happen.
@s.gentz he says here to message him, on that number - but as you and I have both said, there is nothing anyone here can do and they both need to be banned as this is exactly why there is a vendor vetting process - why people choose anything but approved vendors makes no sense to me
I did not add a name I showed his number bro are you sure you are looking at the screenshots correctly
I assumed he was vetted as a mod/admin tagged him in my previous post!
I’m seeing that now. This thread is a fucking train wreck.
As far as I’m concerned this guy went outside of us helping him by trying to but gear from a non sponsor.
Please screen record video of you clicking the phone Number on top of the WhatsApp message and then clicking edit contact to show all info
He was tagged by @LevButlerov in a previous post I had made
Will do
Here I believe this is what you asked me to do
@Bigswaz what do you say to this?
He
was tagged because you asked about a Canadian source. All the guys tagged are Canadian.
Is it possible somebody has set their display name as Bigswaz's phone number and messaged OP? I remember using Telegram years back and people could just set their display name to any @ or phone number.
Does that happen on whatsapp?
Does that happen on whatsapp?
Yeah, clearly, I misunderstood what was happening in that post! Again no one bent my arm to send this fucking scamming scumbag 2 grand that’s on me. I just don’t want anyone else to get scammed by this self-centered loser
It’s not saved under his name. It’s a literally his phone number that he provided in the Evo chat.
Bigswaz
SUSPENDED 2025 - Scamming
Say to what? Where anywhere in this video does it show me physically talking to him, like I’ve said a handful of times. I never had 1 conversation with him outside of this forum until he called my personal line.
Last time I’ll say this, I never had any contact with him on WhatsApp at all zero conversations what so ever. Never had any phone calls on what’s app. Only call I got was after I messaged HIM TODAY ON THIS FOURM. Then I got phone calls of him swearing and threebting to kill me and my family. I recorded the conversation and went straight to the RCMP filed a police report. Going to see my lawyer tomorrow and take legal action against him. I showed my bank records to the RCMP no money nothing was ever sent to me, and I’ll Be making sure the law is upheld against him. Who ever he’s talking to or whatever he’s got going on I can’t explain, but only end I never spoke to him at all
No one was ever threatened you fucking scammer!!
Bigswaz
SUSPENDED 2025 - Scamming
It’s all recorded bro. RCMP already have it.
What?!?! No bro...god no. We have a trusted sellers section. There's like 10 guys tagged and none of them sell gear lol
Got a police report you can share? Obviously redacting personal info
Redo the video recording please
Scroll from top to bottom in the message as your record the WhatsApp chat
After you scroll slowly from 1st to last message, click on phone number top of WhatsApp and click edit button for contact
Bigswaz
SUSPENDED 2025 - Scamming
Hmmm seems like something this guy would be doing
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BCGains
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This is hilarious, the craziest part is trying to charge $400 for 60mg Reta sold by Growthguys for 300. It literally has Growthguys labels on it too lol
@Eddie Haskell you are pathetic to assume I’m any part of this. You really came out of left field throwing my name out there. Goof
@Eddie Haskell you are pathetic to assume I’m any part of this. You really came out of left field throwing my name out there. Goof
Unfortunately, this form only allows me to attach videos that are no longer than five or six seconds long so I won’t be able to scroll slowly I could DM it to you with your phone number if you want
Bigswaz
SUSPENDED 2025 - Scamming
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Oh dear this thread is fucked 
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@mods - obviously I am no one, but I seriously think banning and moving on the best course of action - apparently police are involved, they have both breached TOS, nothing positive to be had in this conversation
. @mods - obviously I am no one, but I seriously think banning and moving on the best course of action - apparently police are involved, they have both breached TOS, nothing positive to be had in this conversation
BCGains
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I’m no detective, and my interaction with bigswaz has been only positive. No selling or anything just discussions personally.
But the photos and phone number and everything is connecting.
photos of the vials, “you are in good hands brother”
Transfers sent.
I don’t know man, looks guilty lmao sorry broski
But the photos and phone number and everything is connecting.
photos of the vials, “you are in good hands brother”
Transfers sent.
I don’t know man, looks guilty lmao sorry broski
Thank you it’s because he is guilty! He definitely scammed me
Bigswaz
SUSPENDED 2025 - Scamming
Hey man I would never accuse you of anything, I was using you as an example that I wouldn’t put members in a situation that would cost them money.
You just scam people forget the accusing
Done !
Upload to image sharing like imgur.com in parts, they allow 200mb
@BCGains feels like you are involved with this? Did I strike a nerve?
Looks like another case of OJ Simpson where all the evidence it pointing pretty clearly but seems like the defendant is saying "If the gloves don't fit, you must acquit!" 
Lol it worked tho. He's just fukn with you. Anytime GG comes up you gotta expect you're gonna get trolled from now on. You did it to yourself so you gotta just roll with it at this point.
In your Hummer H2 lol
Bigswaz
SUSPENDED 2025 - Scamming
This is wonderful lol. Lesson learned never try and help anyone. If you’re going to ban me please just get it over with. I’m done defending myself and wasting my breath. I’m done responding I’ll let legal action take its rightful place. If you don’t decide to ban me thank you, if you do ban me I just want to say thank you for letting me be apart of the community. I enjoyed my time here and I never ment for anything like this to happen.
BCGains
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if I was involved why am I not involved in any of the photos and numbers lmao get a life loser.
