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@Reivax dbol pumps are well known. try running while having them. your calves will explode!
bros you need some taurine for dbol. that will help relieve pumps. you can get n2guard it has it already in formula and a lot of other stuff you using! @Reivax
how do you like those shakes? does it mess with your stomach at all? @Reivax a lot of people have trouble digesting so many different things at once.
if pumps are hurting you that much then they become counter productive. i would either lower the dbol dose or try increasing taurine @Reivax pumps are legendary on dbol
@Reivax if you aren't making out well on dbol then just stop using it. The nice thing about using Dianabol it has a very short half life 4 or 5 hours so it'll be out of your system in a couple of days.
Nah bro its alright im used to it
okay that is goodNah bro its alright im used to it
@Reivax looks like you’re making some really good progress man. Congrats to you. Absolutely that is normal to have pumps like that on dbol.
@Reivax looking legit....keep going.........
Following, any progress pics?
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Running 20mg dbol & 300mg test cyp from elitebody.ca
-Test cyp 300mg/week for 14 weeks
-Dianabol 20 mg/day 10 mg morning & 10 mg at night before my workout for 6 weeks
Starting (natty) weight is 128 lbs. I am now 141.3 lbs (5 weeks in)
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2 high cal shakes + One meal so add mabey 500 cals to the 2800 & 20g protein (I also underestimate macros to be sure)
shake recipe:
•Oats 450 cals/15g protein
•Milk 320/27g protein
•Peanut butter 540/18g protein
•Protein powder 150 cals/24g protein
•1400 cals per shake x 2 = 2800 cals
•84 protein per day x 2 = 168 g protein
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My workout routine is 3 times a week full body, 1 exercise 4 sets per body part.
So for a week after dbol i stayed 150 pounds so i thought mabey i was special but i aimt special but even tho the weightloss im abit stronger. I bench 185 yesterday 4 reps,4reps,4reps,2reps
Bicep curled 35 dumbells for like 8 mabey
I also dont target cardio directly i walk ALOT!!
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-Test cyp 300mg/week for 14 weeks
-Dianabol 20 mg/day 10 mg morning & 10 mg at night before my workout for 6 weeks
Starting (natty) weight is 128 lbs. I am now 141.3 lbs (5 weeks in)
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2 high cal shakes + One meal so add mabey 500 cals to the 2800 & 20g protein (I also underestimate macros to be sure)
shake recipe:
•Oats 450 cals/15g protein
•Milk 320/27g protein
•Peanut butter 540/18g protein
•Protein powder 150 cals/24g protein
•1400 cals per shake x 2 = 2800 cals
•84 protein per day x 2 = 168 g protein
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My workout routine is 3 times a week full body, 1 exercise 4 sets per body part.
So for a week after dbol i stayed 150 pounds so i thought mabey i was special but i aimt special but even tho the weightloss im abit stronger. I bench 185 yesterday 4 reps,4reps,4reps,2reps
Bicep curled 35 dumbells for like 8 mabey
I also dont target cardio directly i walk ALOT!!
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Yo im 8 weeks in not 5 forgot to change
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Good progress so far and solid build up from 128 to 141 lbs, your shoulders chest and arms look good in the pics.
@Reivax am I reading this right, you're only eating 168 grams protein?
Cycle plan is fine but at 8 weeks in you should start planning bloods now.
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Thank you bro and okGood progress so far and solid build up from 128 to 141 lbs, your shoulders chest and arms look good in the pics.
am I reading this right, you're only eating 168 grams protein?
Cycle plan is fine but at 8 weeks in you should start planning bloods now.
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Yea in shakes so average add 20g to that 188
Great work bro! A 185lb bench for reps at 150lbs is really good. I could barely rep 185lbs for 1 when I was 150lbs. Shows really above average strength that your repping for 4. I bet you got close to a 200lb single rep in you.
Thanls bro & i want to set my phone on rack and film myself trying 225 lol
That's always the ultimate goal for guys like us. I didn't do it til I hopped on a cycle. I was stuck for years cuz bench is literally my worst lift. Wanted 2 plates sooooo bad so I definitely feel you on that one.
I was on my first cycle and thought why not give it a shot and see, and I did it. Then I did 230 right after, then 235, then failed at 240. End of cycle I hit 250. Really helped me blow past that bench plateau.
Seems like you're on a similar track so it will definitely come. Just be safe cuz you don't wanna get hurt and have a giant setback.
If you can bench more then you body weight your doing really well. Great stuff brother 
Nice to see your weight going up while keeping BF% in check. Your bench is in great shape to hit 2 plates soon enough just give it time bro.
I’d love to see you up your protein well above 200+g/ED.
Have you thought about taking those 3 days a week you train and doing push/pull/legs instead of full body each day? You might be shortchanging yourself with compound movements being what’s probably going to be your best base builder at your age. Or add a fourth day and work on push one week on the 4th day, then pull, then legs, etc so you have a dedicated day to each large muscle group and compound movement.
Just a thought. And also, don’t be too discouraged if 5-8 pounds of that comes off after the dbol it’s no biggie.
Thankyou broIf you can bench more then you body weight your doing really well. Great stuff brother
Thank you
yea i guess an extra scoop would bring me to 200 so its not to bad. And iv been doing 3 days a week full body forever because iv always been active daily since 16 but i could dabble in a diff split
But ppl iv always found that confusing asfThank you
Day 1 push = chest tricep and a some front delt
Day 2 pull = back bicep and some rear delt
Day 3 legs = glutes hamstrings quads and calves
You can do your core at the end of each workout day too.
Compound heavy movements are best for you for now. Bench for example you’re strong with so make bench be your staple push exercise.
Im goving this a go but i can still continue monday,weds,friday? Also another thing about working out 3 days in my head il burn less cals
Giving*
Just basically i need to be doing more execsises per session for esch bodyparts
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get that way higher to 200 grams please @Reivax
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Chat gpt got me this split can you rate it
3 Day Bulking Split
Day 1 — Push (Chest / Shoulders / Triceps)
Chest:
Barbell Bench Press – 4×6–10
Pec Deck – 4×8–12
Shoulders:
Arnold Press – 4×8–10
Machine Lateral Raises – 3×15–20
Triceps:
Lying Dumbbell Extension – 3×12–15
Day 2 — Pull (Back / Rear Delts / Traps)
Back:
Chin-ups or Neutral-Grip Pulldowns – 4×8–12
Seated Cable Row – 4×8–10
Rear Delts:
Reverse Pec Deck – 3×15–20
Traps:
Barbell Shrugs – 3×12–15
Day 3 — Legs + Forearms + Core
Legs:
Front Squat or Hack Squat – 4×6–10
Leg Curl Machine – 4×10–12
Forearms:
Hammer Curls – 3×12–15
Cable Wrist Extensions – 3×20
Reverse EZ Curls – 3×15
Cable Wrist Curls – 3×20
Core:
Cable Crunches – 3×15
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sorry I can't do a chatgpt convo for you lol @Reivax and same for @HarleyGuy
what training do you want to do yourself? not the ai telling you
Well i modified day 3 but il try it this week
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go for it
Update @Reivax ?
Yes soon i got sick for a whole week still am so let my system relax no gym but obviously have to go to work lol also im gonna have to aim 4000 calories so memtally getting prepared
Glad you're on the mend bro. Check my log if you wanna do 4000-6000+ calories with ease (digestive supps along with some other tips and tricks like carb cycling).
Keep us posted. Get those electrolytes into you!
The height of my log was September but you can check out page 64 too as a 6000+ calorie day.Shit il check it out now thanks gee
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...nomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/page-64
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If you're 4k calories please post foods @Reivax
Yup getting back into it problably tmmrw probably (gym) but yea once im all good il post
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post it up
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Good to see you back, you're looking good in the pic144 lbs
Nothing special to say just dont wanna leave you guys hanging. with the help you give me!
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Thank you!Good to see you back, you're looking good in the pic
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iv been good benched 195 for 3 reps but wont go higher for a while.Sad part is its soon the end of my cycle. all ready for my next
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You should get off PCT and really push to go natty.Thank you!
Sad part is its soon the end of my cycle. all ready for my next
Howcome?
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you dont want to go natty?
Nah bro i like it lolyou dont want to go natty?
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I know you do
We all do.
Sir144 lbs
Nothing special to say just dont wanna leave you guys hanging. with the help you give me!
welcome back! How's your training looking? And nutrition?
Still full body 3xweek cant do more cuz i am already way to active for my metSir
Bulking shake am
Pepsi at work
Pepsi during brake with a big meal
Simewhat medium Meal getting from work back than one last bulking shake
Thats average for a week bro its simple but im ayt with it
But im hitting 3500 cals rn mabey il go 4k soon
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post the foods please @Reivax
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Looks tasty
Yo guys I wanted to do a last cycle but problem with sources and thinking I decided to pct. The dumb part is i stayed shutdown for nothing since im not doing a last cycle anymore but oh well. My balls have not shrunk at all which is mabey good? Anyways here is my pct protocol what do y'all think? (Been shutdown almost 7 months)
• Weeks 1–2:
• Clomid 50 mg
• Nolva 40 mg
• Weeks 3–4:
• Clomid 25 mg
• Nolva 20 mg
• Weeks 5–6:
• Clomid 25 mg
• Nolva 20 mg
• Weeks 7–8:
• Clomid 12.5mg
• Nolva 10–20 mg
• Weeks 1–2:
• Clomid 50 mg
• Nolva 40 mg
• Weeks 3–4:
• Clomid 25 mg
• Nolva 20 mg
• Weeks 5–6:
• Clomid 25 mg
• Nolva 20 mg
• Weeks 7–8:
• Clomid 12.5mg
• Nolva 10–20 mg
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They had a problem accepting payment which they never advised me about. I had to reach out (trying to be a good client) i try not to be too stressful and tried another source had to order two items. (So noway it would arrive on time) I took it as a sign to stop.
I also want to add that i really did try i cancelled like 5 e-transfers total (different sources)
Last injection exactly a week ago, would it be better to start my serms week 2 or 3 since last injection
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week 2 is gtg
Thank you!
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what happened to your training diet? share please
Same training same diet works not complicated lol shakes and heavy weights fullbody 3x week im about 156 pounds scale is always between 155-158what happened to your training diet? share please
I know im not big by any means bit still happy i feel solid
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post up the whole diet i dont know what same thing is
2 x the dame shakes but i add 6 tblsp of oil now 2000 cals per shake and a est a meal at work. varies yesterday was ravioli pastapost up the whole diet i dont know what same thing is
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not very detailed lol you have myfitnesspal? @Reivax
I dont sadly if im not mistaken its the app that can ai track macros? I use chatgpt and gives me macros lol
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it doesnt use ai you just log it
so whats your macros? share please
Oats 450 cals/15g proteinit doesnt use ai you just log it
Milk 320/27g protein
Peanut butter 400 cals/12g protein
Protein powder 140 cals/23g protein
6 tblsp olive oil 720 cals
---2012 cals per shake
83 gram protein per shake
This is x2 but also add a meal mabey 500-600 cals-25g prtoein and a pepsi
I want to say clearly i drink this shake 2 times so 4k cals in shakes
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this is not bad in terms of protein if you're doing big shakes, you dont have full food?
I do. but im not a big eater. Think about it, i have been at it with those shakes for 7 months (even if im sick)
it can happen they wanna come out sometimes
Its also such a time saverI do. but im not a big eater. Think about it, i have been at it with those shakes for 7 months (even if im sick)
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lets get some updated supp list tooI do. but im not a big eater. Think about it, i have been at it with those shakes for 7 months (even if im sick)
Week 1lets get some updated supp list too
Clomiphene 50 mg every day
Tamoxifen 50 mg every day
Week 2
Clomiphene 50 mg every day
Tamoxifen 50 mg every day
Week 3
Clomiphene 50 mg every other day
Tamoxifen 25 mg every day
Week 4
Clomiphene 50 mg every other day
Tamoxifen 25 mg every day
Week 5
Clomiphene 50 mg every other day
Tamoxifen 25 mg every day
Week 6
Clomiphene 50 mg every other day
Tamoxifen 25 mg every day
Week 7
Clomiphene 50 mg every 3 days
Tamoxifen 25 mg every day
Week 8
Clomiphene 50 mg every 3 days
Tamoxifen 25 mg every day
I got nolva 25 capsules
Clomid 50mg capsules is this a good protocol?
I stopped using sups bro only protein powderlets get some updated supp list too
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well did you stop cycling? or hgh?
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did you do bloodwork?
Yes in a week im starting pct
Is it alright?
Im starting my pct in 3 days actually this wednesday
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no bloods done?
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no you need bloods
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