Approved Log First Cycle Journal

[ROIDDERS]

i dont know, sometimes ignorance is bliss...

@rayray01 You are on this forum to learn stuff. A lot of us on here have been in the game a long time. We have the experience so don't think it's ignorance on your part. Everybody had to start somewhere.

 

[2Thick]

thats a letter i rather not ever see or receive. lol so p.o box is the way to go you say will do so today? i hope its cheap, but i am prescribed Testosterone, like how will they flag my address for my medication and how would they know its not Test or its EQ or something else??

customs can check a package if they want. if they see its gear they will seize it and then send you a letter warning you never to do it again. they will also add your address to a blacklist so anything you get sent in the future they will keep an eye on @rayray01

 

[rayray01]

I did once before i knew about naps and domestic, and it came without any issies. I dont order gear from overseas now... just got BPC-157 blend, ipamorelin, reta, stuff like that small.vials from hong long coz better price that's all..

 

[LevButlerov]

I did once before i knew about naps and domestic, and it came without any issies. I dont order gear from overseas now... just got BPC-157 blend, ipamorelin, reta, stuff like that small.vials from hong long coz better price that's all..

you got your delivery from napsgear recently right? @rayray01

 

[rayray01]

Yea everything has come through only one item is.left to be shipped but everything else is here.

you got your delivery from napsgear recently right? @rayray01

 

[LevButlerov]

Yea everything has come through only one item is.left to be shipped but everything else is here.

Post some touchdown pics please @rayray01

 

[rayray01]

Sure thing... here you go and I got couple of vials of test and clen on the way as well

 

[LevButlerov]

Sure thing... here you go and I got couple of vials of test and clen on the way as well

This is a good napsgear touchdown @rayray01
@jasonhill800 check he should get up for this

 

[rayray01]

This is a good napsgear touchdown @rayray01
@jasonhill800 check he should get up for this

My.entire setup with supplies, and peptides and backups and with tons more on the way.

 

[rayray01]

This is a good napsgear touchdown @rayray01
@jasonhill800 check he should get up for this

What is a get up?? I apologize for my ignorance!!

 

[rayray01]

Today diet and workout and still crushing Kathleen... lol

 

[LevButlerov]

What is a get up?? I apologize for my ignorance!!

dont worry this is for @jasonhill800

 

[LevButlerov]

Today diet and workout and still crushing Kathleen... lol

how do you feel with this food level?

 

[rayray01]

how do you feel with this food level?

Feel fine, it is just enough to where I do not feel i are too much out left hungry. It is perfect. Qq, when will I start to see some volume increase or muscle gain reflecting, I know it is only week 3 but when should I anticipate the changes starting to show... please advise.... man 2 days in a row legs and now waking up and gonna head to the gym for day no 3.... am bout to be jello lags... lol

 

[rayray01]

Or should I look for injectible diababol or something to help with mass?

 

[rayray01]

how do you feel with this food level?

But unable to run any kind of decifit of any sort.

 

[rayray01]

Or should I look for injectible diababol or something to help with mass?

I am probably being impatient, not sure whattp expect i guess being a rookie cycle i probably had unrealistic expectations.

 

[LevButlerov]

Feel fine, it is just enough to where I do not feel i are too much out left hungry. It is perfect. Qq, when will I start to see some volume increase or muscle gain reflecting, I know it is only week 3 but when should I anticipate the changes starting to show... please advise.... man 2 days in a row legs and now waking up and gonna head to the gym for day no 3.... am bout to be jello lags... lol

Give it time, you just starting, lets do this 2 weeks first.

Or should I look for injectible diababol or something to help with mass?

Dont use injectable dbol it's dangerous.

But unable to run any kind of decifit of any sort.

It will take time we just started this @rayray01

 

[rayray01]

Yes sir, my apologies, I just need to be more patient. Thank you once again for your patience and guidance and dealing with my million questions.

 

[LevButlerov]

Yes sir, my apologies, I just need to be more patient. Thank you once again for your patience and guidance and dealing with my million questions.

dont worry, everyone starts somewhere, this journey is a marathon not a sprint, lets work slowly in 2-3 week intervals @rayray01

 

[rayray01]

Yesterday diey and lift

 

[LevButlerov]

Yesterday diey and lift

Time for a drop, starting next week drop protein to 250 and carbs to 200 can you do that?

 

[rayray01]

Sure, that is the easy oart.. lol. Next as an week as an one starting tomorrow or next monday?? Please confirm.

 

[LevButlerov]

Sure, that is the easy oart.. lol. Next as an week as an one starting tomorrow or next monday?? Please confirm.

tomorrow is monday start then

 

[rayray01]

tomorrow is monday start then

Got it starting tomorrow keep carbs and protien at 200 or around that, right..

 

[rayray01]

Today's diet and lift.

 

[stevesmi]

Yesterday diey and lift

@rayray01 you certain drink a lot of milk. haven't seen anyone drink that much milk on a log on here in a long time. you okay digesting it?

 

[rayray01]

@rayray01 you certain drink a lot of milk. haven't seen anyone drink that much milk on a log on here in a long time. you okay digesting it?

Yea man, no issues at all... i love me some milk

 

[LevButlerov]

Got it starting tomorrow keep carbs and protien at 200 or around that, right..

right

Today's diet and lift.

good day!

 

[Mobster]

Sure, that is the easy oart.. lol. Next as an week as an one starting tomorrow or next monday?? Please confirm.

Start today

 

[stevesmi]

Yea man, no issues at all... i love me some milk

make sure you get highest quality. grass fed and raw milk.

same with all dairy.. raw cheese vs. fake cheese is completely different. it costs more for a reason

 

[2Thick]

Yea man, no issues at all... i love me some milk

you can always take some enzymes to help digest. usually northern europeans have an easier time digesting milk. pretty normal @rayray01

 

[rayray01]

Man now where in the world am I gonna find grass.fed.raw milk... I just get red cap milk from the groceries.

 

[Ulter]

Man now where in the world am I gonna find grass.fed.raw milk... I just get red cap milk from the groceries.

raw milk is tough to find in the USA unless you can drive to a dairy farm. @rayray01 but you can find grassfed at any health food store. low quality milk is just nasty

 

[ceo]

Today's diet and lift.

@rayray01 bros try no milk for a week or two. see if you notice changes. dairy not really good iMO especially in bodybuilding

 

[rayray01]

@rayray01 bros try no milk for a week or two. see if you notice changes. dairy not really good iMO especially in bodybuilding

Hmmm ok. I was not aware of it. I will cut it out from tomorrow. One would think that milk is good for bones and strength as it is nutritious

 

[ROIDDERS]

Hmmm ok. I was not aware of it. I will cut it out from tomorrow. One would think that milk is good for bones and strength as it is nutritious

yes that is true if we listen to the milk industry. but look around to other logs on here. how often are people drinking milk? how often to do you see animals drink milk ? mammals drink their mothers milk only as infants then never drink it again. treat it like a beverage if you enjoy something different then water. but no its not nutritious unless you want to bloat. @rayray01

 

[rayray01]

Damn I am.gonna run out of things to eat on my already tiny eating list... lol but in all honesty.never thought it that way...ty for the knowledge.

 

[rayray01]

I have ordered one of each of these which one should I stsrt with and will this amount be sufficient or should I place an order for more, please advise?

 

[25homes]

These are my main problem areas, come a long way from 203lbs to 154lbs. But last bit of belly fat is determined sob. No matter how much walking I am doing or abs excersizes I do no luck. Not sure if my kidney removal surgery ruin the muscles underneath because they cut me right above my naval. Please share any advice on how to get ride of it, I moved from good amount ofdecifit to less decifit, but not making the desired progress. Would a cut cycle be helpful in such case?

Diet bro all diet

 

[LevButlerov]

I have ordered one of each of these which one should I stsrt with and will this amount be sufficient or should I place an order for more, please advise?

why do you want to use helios?

 

[rayray01]

why do you want to use helios?

Didn't know just ordered it because had clenbuterol in it

 

[LevButlerov]

Didn't know just ordered it because had clenbuterol in it

lets talk first for a week in the future before you order anything ok? @rayray01
helios is injectable, you should NOT inject clenbuterol

 

[toddthelineman]

I have ordered one of each of these which one should I stsrt with and will this amount be sufficient or should I place an order for more, please advise?

Bro you are ordering a lot of stuff.

 

[rayray01]

Diet bro all diet

lets talk first for a week in the future before you order anything ok? @rayray01
helios is injectable, you should NOT inject clenbuterol

Ok. My dumb ass got click happy not sure if they can cancel.it because not been shipped yet I believe, will reach out to them and check.

 

[rayray01]

Bro you are ordering a lot of stuff.

Man I get click happy... for some reason thinking I know this stuff... smh...

 

[toddthelineman]

Damn I am.gonna run out of things to eat on my already tiny eating list... lol but in all honesty.never thought it that way...ty for the knowledge.

You could look at logs of others who have achieved what you aim to, and see what they eat. Or you could keep it very very simple and eat the things that are well known in the bodybuilding lifestyle because it works.

Chicken, rice, eggs, potatoes, oats, broccoli, fish, shrimp. A lot of bodybuilders eat steak daily, some never do. The trick is eating the foods in the right ratios to get the macros you need. But it’s not that tricky if you make a plan. I don’t plan a perfect diet because I’m pretty happy with my body composition. I would be happy to gain a little fat in the process of gaining significant muscle. I know I can lose the fat.

 

[rayray01]

You could look at logs of others who have achieved what you aim to, and see what they eat. Or you could keep it very very simple and eat the things that are well known in the bodybuilding lifestyle because it works.

Chicken, rice, eggs, potatoes, oats, broccoli, fish, shrimp. A lot of bodybuilders eat steak daily, some never do. The trick is eating the foods in the right ratios to get the macros you need. But it’s not that tricky if you make a plan. I don’t plan a perfect diet because I’m pretty happy with my body composition. I would be happy to gain a little fat in the process of gaining significant muscle. I know I can lose the fat.

Good point.

 

[toddthelineman]

Man I get click happy... for some reason thinking I know this stuff... smh...

We all do it! I ordered all kinds of stuff before i settled in on what I like. I like test, hgh or mk677, primo, proviron. The other things I’ve tried were more experimental. They have different effects and side effects. I don’t necessarily want to feel like I’m on things or that drugs are doing all the work for me. I want things that work with me

 

[rayray01]

Today's diet and lift

 

[LevButlerov]

Ok. My dumb ass got click happy not sure if they can cancel.it because not been shipped yet I believe, will reach out to them and check.

its fine to be excited but go slow

 

[LevButlerov]

Today's diet and lift

Much better macros today
what supplements did you take? @rayray01

 

[rayray01]

Much better macros today
what supplements did you take? @rayray01

My usual, the same i take everyday...cycle support. L catnitine. Fish oil, BPC-157. Ipamorelin, glucosamine chrondatin, collagen liver detox, kidney cleanse, tudca.

 

[LevButlerov]

My usual, the same i take everyday...cycle support. L catnitine. Fish oil, BPC-157. Ipamorelin, glucosamine chrondatin, collagen liver detox, kidney cleanse, tudca.

did you get n2guard? @rayray01

 

[rayray01]

did you get n2guard? @rayray01

No picked up this from Amazon

 

[LevButlerov]

No picked up this from Amazon

how many pills you have left? @rayray01
after you're done you need to switch to n2guard its better for cycle support
https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/cycle-support/n2guard

 

[rayray01]

how many pills you have left? @rayray01
after you're done you need to switch to n2guard its better for cycle support
https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/cycle-support/n2guard

I got quite a bit, but I n will order n2gaurd and start using that

 

[rayray01]

This is what Naps responded in regards to vial being partially less filled. Not sure what to have expected from it...

 

[rayray01]

why do you want to use helios?

If you do not mind me asking @LevButlerov, my goal was to use it as a.fst burner/cutting, is it something not possible. I reached out to.domestic Supply but missed them as it had already been shipped out, which is ok, my fault. It seems like I have more.gear stuff which I cant use than what I can use in my stock... lol

 

[rayray01]

You could look at logs of others who have achieved what you aim to, and see what they eat. Or you could keep it very very simple and eat the things that are well known in the bodybuilding lifestyle because it works.

Chicken, rice, eggs, potatoes, oats, broccoli, fish, shrimp. A lot of bodybuilders eat steak daily, some never do. The trick is eating the foods in the right ratios to get the macros you need. But it’s not that tricky if you make a plan. I don’t plan a perfect diet because I’m pretty happy with my body composition. I would be happy to gain a little fat in the process of gaining significant muscle. I know I can lose the fat.

Man can I est chicken wings? If I can do that, I am bout to destroy me some chicken wings by the pound e everyday... lol

 

[rayray01]

Got the results of the MRI, have a follow up appnt with the doc this thursday...not sure what all this means but hopefully nothing too bad and can be fixed.

 

[rayray01]

already have done physical therapy, medications, cortizone injections, PRP is the only thing left or just get the surgery and be over with it. smh.. let see what the doc advises.

 

[ballin2504]

Yesterday diey and lift

@rayray01 great update. Keep them coming.

 

[rayray01]

Today's diet and lift

 

[LevButlerov]

If you do not mind me asking @LevButlerov, my goal was to use it as a.fst burner/cutting, is it something not possible. I reached out to.domestic Supply but missed them as it had already been shipped out, which is ok, my fault. It seems like I have more.gear stuff which I cant use than what I can use in my stock... lol

It's fine to cut but you ordering things left and right with little planning.
it takes time and slow planning. Lets get you on a routine for 4 weeks before we start adding things, you follow right? @rayray01

 

[LevButlerov]

d

Got the results of the MRI, have a follow up appnt with the doc this thursday...not sure what all this means but hopefully nothing too bad and can be fixed.

View attachment 132253View attachment 132253
View attachment 132256
View attachment 132257
View attachment 132258

looking at these results, I see a lot of smaller injuries, how did you get these? @rayray01

 

[LevButlerov]

Today's diet and lift

This is good but can you add bone broth daily?

 

[rayray01]

It's fine to cut but you ordering things left and right with little planning.
it takes time and slow planning. Lets get you on a routine for 4 weeks before we start adding things, you follow right? @rayray01

Yes sir. Will do as you advise. I am trying my best. I just get a little impatient at times... butnwill do better moving forward, I promise. Only thing I am ordering anymore is test l, that's it

 

[rayray01]

This is good but can you add bone broth daily?

I have figure out where to get that but yes if I can get my hands on it I will include it daily.

 

[rayray01]

If I have to.get surgery which is most likely the case, do I still continue the cycle ? Because post surgery is still plan to work out lower body and do my walking and workout the left side of the body

 

[LevButlerov]

I have figure out where to get that but yes if I can get my hands on it I will include it daily.

amazon bone broth powder no additives

 

[LevButlerov]

If I have to.get surgery which is most likely the case, do I still continue the cycle ? Because post surgery is still plan to work out lower body and do my walking and workout the left side of the body

If you get surgery you can continue self TRT slowly and recover with bpc/tb/deca/test @rayray01

 

[LevButlerov]

Yes sir. Will do as you advise. I am trying my best. I just get a little impatient at times... butnwill do better moving forward, I promise. Only thing I am ordering anymore is test l, that's it

Life is more of a marathon not a race I know you anxious, trust the EVO family we will get there @rayray01

 

[rayray01]

If you get surgery you can continue self TRT slowly and recover with bpc/tb/deca/test @rayray01

I am 100% sure he will recommend surgery, if not u will push for it,, I want to get it fixed and move on in life and make this pain go away once door an all... what is deca, do you mean debsbolon, coz that right side may be out of swords lowering for 6 month or more...

 

[LevButlerov]

I am 100% sure he will recommend surgery, if not u will push for it,, I want to get it fixed and move on in life and make this pain go away once door an all... what is deca, do you mean debsbolon, coz that right side may be out of swords lowering for 6 month or more...

that ca be helpful if you get the surgery right and recovering is fairly simple with peptides and rehab

 

[rayray01]

that ca be helpful if you get the surgery right and recovering is fairly simple with peptides and rehab

Amen to that man. My cousin brother is an orthopedic surgeon , it is his practice that is handling me, he is confident they will have back as new, I am worried about how to not eff it up again... lol..

 

[Mobster]

It could have been a LOT worse

 

[stevesmi]

Got the results of the MRI, have a follow up appnt with the doc this thursday...not sure what all this means but hopefully nothing too bad and can be fixed.

View attachment 132253View attachment 132253
View attachment 132256
View attachment 132257
View attachment 132258

@rayray01 When I got my MRI done on my shoulder, I went to several different doctors and they each interpreted these results differently. That's the problem with medicine is that it's not black and white. One doctor will feel like you should do this. One doctor will feel like you should do that. So it's really tough man. Even professional athletes at the highest level who play football will have doctors give them bad advice or have them do a surgery when they don't need it. It's just the way it works.

 

[Ulter]

Amen to that man. My cousin brother is an orthopedic surgeon , it is his practice that is handling me, he is confident they will have back as new, I am worried about how to not eff it up again... lol..

That's good that you have a relative that you can trust. At least then he has some sort of personal connection to you and hopefully he'll give you the best path forward. @rayray01

 

[toddthelineman]

am worried about how to not eff it up again... lol..

From my experience, and from watching your thread, I think you REALLY need to learn patience. You need to let your body do the work and stop thinking that forcing it being what it can currently do is going to get you what you want. It won’t. You can get the results that you want, within realistic bounds

 

[ceo]

Got the results of the MRI, have a follow up appnt with the doc this thursday...not sure what all this means but hopefully nothing too bad and can be fixed.

View attachment 132253View attachment 132253
View attachment 132256
View attachment 132257
View attachment 132258

Bros. You need to have a very skilled doctor interpret all this. @rayray01 Don't be shy about it. Sit down with them and let them explain and answer any of your questions and let us know. When I had my plumbing accident, I had a doctor sit with me in my hospital bed and he went over everything page by page.

 

[rayray01]

From my experience, and from watching your thread, I think you REALLY need to learn patience. You need to let your body do the work and stop thinking that forcing it being what it can currently do is going to get you what you want. It won’t. You can get the results that you want, within realistic bounds

Yea patience is not my strong suit but I am learning to be more patient.

 

[rayray01]

Td pics, ty napsgear.

 

[2Thick]

From my experience, and from watching your thread, I think you REALLY need to learn patience. You need to let your body do the work and stop thinking that forcing it being what it can currently do is going to get you what you want. It won’t. You can get the results that you want, within realistic bounds

@rayray01 This is great advice right here from Todd. I think what happens is when we're young we push things really hard and get away with it. But as we get older and we push things, our body starts to fall apart and it becomes a chronic issue with injuries.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Got the results of the MRI, have a follow up appnt with the doc this thursday...not sure what all this means but hopefully nothing too bad and can be fixed.

View attachment 132253View attachment 132253
View attachment 132256
View attachment 132257
View attachment 132258

Let us know what the doctor says all of this actually means at the end of the day. Recovery is going to be crucial. That's definitely going to be what we need to know about. @rayray01

 

[rayray01]

@rayray01 This is great advice right here from Todd. I think what happens is when we're young we push things really hard and get away with it. But as we get older and we push things, our body starts to fall apart and it becomes a chronic issue with injuries.

I hear you guys, this injury is from 1999, when I was in College. Trust me I am absolutely not pushing my self or my luck when it comes to training or results. I had not worked out for 15yrs, so didn't care for this injury because it was not a daily nagging pain, now that I am back in the x weight room, even 5lbs deltoid workout hurts like a b****. I just need to get the tear fixed and move forward so I am not in pain for the lightest of activity. Trust me I am almost 50 yrs old and have complex health issues, just now became a dad, last thing I wish to do is put myself in eff around and find out situation. I just wish to be fit, in shape, as a little bit of muscle just so my daughter does not think my dad is lazy and sweet a good example for her... I know I am in for a long haul. And order bunch of supplies is just fun activity for me, it's something new, I have a mindset of always have backup of backup of backup of backup. Hence click happy with it. I have learnt so much from you all and will continue to learn and grow as my journey continues. Please do not take this the wrong way. This group helps me stay focused, motivated and hold my self accountable like never before when it comes to my diet... and the level of support and encouragement is amazing to hear. At my age we rarely get to hear good job for anything in life... lol. A big thank you for everything.

 

[rayray01]

Let us know what the doctor says all of this actually means at the end of the day. Recovery is going to be crucial. That's definitely going to be what we need to know about. @rayray01

I couldn't agree more, and will follow their advice to the T.

 

[rayray01]

This was fast. Ty domestic-supply for being amazing.


With that said can someone help me breakdown the dosage for me, i will be using 1ml syringe, so till what dosage am I suppose to fill it up to, please advise. @LevButlerov

 

[rayray01]

This is good but can you add bone broth daily?

Will this work?? @LevButlerov

 

[LevButlerov]

Will this work?? @LevButlerov

check back panel

 

[LevButlerov]

This was fast. Ty domestic-supply for being amazing.


With that said can someone help me breakdown the dosage for me, i will be using 1ml syringe, so till what dosage am I suppose to fill it up to, please advise. @LevButlerov
View attachment 132551

Dont inject this but you can do oral doses.

 

[LevButlerov]

Amen to that man. My cousin brother is an orthopedic surgeon , it is his practice that is handling me, he is confident they will have back as new, I am worried about how to not eff it up again... lol..

Just go slow

 

[rayray01]

Dont inject this but you can do oral doses.

Damn, ok i guess I will wait for naps clen to show up, of anyone wants let me know i will mail it to ya, it is still sealed... lol better than sitting an collecting dust. I am assuming I cant use this because of my health factor or it is something else?? Kindly share

 

[rayray01]

Todayy diet and lift

 

[LevButlerov]

Damn, ok i guess I will wait for naps clen to show up, of anyone wants let me know i will mail it to ya, it is still sealed... lol better than sitting an collecting dust. I am assuming I cant use this because of my health factor or it is something else?? Kindly share

In theory you can drink it (not inject) but very low dose, but you can offer it to others too @rayray01
@toddthelineman is in USA maybe he would test it

 

[LevButlerov]

Todayy diet and lift

Some of the training can you add drop sets 20 reps? especially back or shoulder issue?

 

[rayray01]

In theory you can drink it (not inject) but very low dose, but you can offer it to others too @rayray01
@toddthelineman is in USA maybe he would test it

Ummm am confused, in theory, as an that are seeking a product as injectible, which is not injectible?? Am I understanding this correctly??

 

[rayray01]

My.body right now itself is a chemistry lab o jist need directions amd I will try it myself or if u like to habe this Todd just hit me up man

 

[LevButlerov]

Ummm am confused, in theory, as an that are seeking a product as injectible, which is not injectible?? Am I understanding this correctly??

You can drink an injectable product but it's complex for you as you're starting out just now.
its bioavailable orally @rayray01 like taking clen and yohimbine

 

[LevButlerov]

My.body right now itself is a chemistry lab o jist need directions amd I will try it myself or if u like to habe this Todd just hit me up man

You should give it to @toddthelineman imo, before surgery clen is not necessary as it puts heart strain on @rayray01