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rayray01 said:
These two just got here!!!
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@rayray01 This is a fantastic touchdown. I love the fact that you're posting these pictures. A lot of people can use these supplements. They really do work.
 
rayray01 said:
These two just got here!!!
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rayray01 said:
I finally took some pics this morning... I am definitely making some progress. Maybe not as quickly as some would expect but I am doing the best I can. I know it's not anywhere near everyone else on the forum but I am chipping away and making a dent in that fat deposit and getting leaner overall so much so that that belly fat sticks out even more. Lol. Still have a long way to go but I will get there I promise slowly but surely. I appreciate all the advice, guidance and support from everyone.
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great job on these pics! got alot of changes happening! the stomach is looking lean! @rayray01
 
Blood Work Result from yesterdays test @LevButlerov the only thing that stood out to me was further drop in eGFR level.


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The higher your Creatinine goes the lower your egfr will go, you are very unlikely having kidney damage, but if you were worried about it - order a Cystatin C, my egfr was like 55 but cystatin c was .73 which is great, its not as sensitive a test to things like high protein diet and muscle turnover
 
rayray01 said:
Ok, I do suffer from CKD, so this may be right. I will ask my doctor to write it out.
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Probably even more reason for you to check that marker it will give you a much more real view of your current kidney health - also consider Astragalus root, it is great for kidneys and most important control that BP
 
Dreamer said:
Probably even more reason for you to check that marker it will give you a much more real view of your current kidney health - also consider Astragalus root, it is great for kidneys and most important control that BP
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BP is a tough one for me, just a lot of crap in life happening... but I got to try harder.
 
rayray01 said:
BP is a tough one for me, just a lot of crap in life happening... but I got to try harder.
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Man I just had a read back through your log, I didnt realise you only had one kidney, even still - with the lifestyle of bodybuilding egfr isnt terribly reliable, so still recommened the cystatin c.

Are you taking any BP meds?
Hope your doing well and stay safe
 
Dreamer said:
Man I just had a read back through your log, I didnt realise you only had one kidney, even still - with the lifestyle of bodybuilding egfr isnt terribly reliable, so still recommened the cystatin c.

Are you taking any BP meds?
Hope your doing well and stay safe
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Yea man kicking it on only one, don't have too much wiggle room left, lol eff hence keeping a close eye on it

Thanks for asking the time and going through the log, appreciate your time you put in it and asking my wellbeing. Yes I am on losartin and my BP was fine prior to the cycle and I am thinking this bump down is temporary and post cycle I recover back up but still want minimize any damage if I can get ahead of things in any which way.

My doc recently reduced my bp.medicstion coz it had been doing so good... lol too soon to celebrate that I guess.. lol
 
rayray01 said:
It fluctuates but last they checked it at blood donation place and it was fine at that point of time. I need to start keeping a log of it.
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log it please
 
rayray01 said:
Taking clen out as well, only other factor is protein will keep it at the minimum required, because that is hard for the kidneys to process. Also.will make an appointment with my nepphrologist and urologist. Just make sure they check everything out as well...
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clen good is a good one
 
Lunch and dinner same as yesterday, plus lift and diet all together.
 

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LevButlerov said:
your bloods aren't that serious nothing too concerning :D yes its high there but creatinine in your situation will always be high @rayray01
and e2 is good perfect cycle test eq in our case
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Good man good to hear.... we will keep course. Will keep you posted on doc appnt or atheist when is it and all when I call them tomorrow.
 
rayray01 said:
Good man good to hear.... we will keep course. Will keep you posted on doc appnt or atheist when is it and all when I call them tomorrow.
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keep me posted :D
 
Mobster said:
As I've said elsewhere for blood tests - fast, no training and no creatine for at least 48 hours pre any test to get a truer pic
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Yes sir, the only thing that I missed was I worked out and went for the test. But had already am good or so invertebrates that to rest. I was fasting. I cannot consume creatine because of my ckd, so that by default will never be am issue for me. I will ask for redo from my doc to put in another order for it will do do so without working out this time. Appreciate the insight.
 
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Brush @stevesmi I believe you but this is my first cycle and at low dose, so I don't think I am in abuse category.yet it's just first use for me, I suffer from Chronic Kodney Disease stage 2 and have one kidney, so it's probably.just working overtime...bout to get it checked 7.different ways, 18 different times just to make sure it's all.good, if not I am.gonna straight up.stop.
 
rayray01 said:
Yes sir, the only thing that I missed was I worked out and went for the test. But had already am good or so invertebrates that to rest. I was fasting. I cannot consume creatine because of my ckd, so that by default will never be am issue for me. I will ask for redo from my doc to put in another order for it will do do so without working out this time. Appreciate the insight.
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There are specific kidney tests that can be done. Sometimes bloodwork can be off. Even going into a test dehydrated could throw the number off a little bit. @rayray01
 
Ulter said:
Before we panic about blood work, it's important to make sure that you get multiple numbers. @rayray01 One blood work doesn't make everything. Sometimes there are blips. Sometimes things happen like you could have been dehydrated going into the test.
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I agree, but this is the 3rd consecutive one where it is down, from 76 to 68 to 61 and now 59. but have an appointment with my nephrologist on coming thursday so am sure she will let me know whats up.
 
rayray01 said:
It fluctuates but last they checked it at blood donation place and it was fine at that point of time. I need to start keeping a log of it.
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@rayray01 bros take blood pressure same time everyday. Because like you said during the day it's going to fluctuate. You should see how high it gets when I'm watching the game.
 
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Yea man kicking it on only one, don't have too much wiggle room left, lol eff hence keeping a close eye on it

Thanks for asking the time and going through the log, appreciate your time you put in it and asking my wellbeing. Yes I am on losartin and my BP was fine prior to the cycle and I am thinking this bump down is temporary and post cycle I recover back up but still want minimize any damage if I can get ahead of things in any which way.

My doc recently reduced my bp.medicstion coz it had been doing so good... lol too soon to celebrate that I guess.. lol
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This is the best news I've heard from this Log right here. Anytime you can get your blood pressure medication lowered, that's a good sign. @rayray01
 
Today's lift and diet
 

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rayray01 said:
I agree, but this is the 3rd consecutive one where it is down, from 76 to 68 to 61 and now 59. but have an appointment with my nephrologist on coming thursday so am sure she will let me know whats up.
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Yeah, hopefully she's a specialist in the field and she can do proper testing.
 
rayray01 said:
Yes sir, had bought felt bad throwing it away so was planning of using it and not v get x anymore, why should I not use it?
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dont use it, get oatmeal or if you want fast carbs honey rice cakes
 

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Dreamer said:
As Lev said, e2 needs to come up, maybe need dose adjustment, also CRP being high is a worry, are you taking anything to combat this?
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Kindly let me know what do I need to do to bring it up and I will do so accordingly. I am not sure what crp is? Please shed some light on it. Also wanted to ask if instead of taking three separate shots, would it be ok if I do i shot with all 3 in shot??
 
rayray01 said:
Kindly let me know what do I need to do to bring it up and I will do so accordingly. I am not sure what crp is? Please shed some light on it. Also wanted to ask if instead of taking three separate shots, would it be ok if I do i shot with all 3 in shot??
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CRP is an inflammation marker, you have some inflammation in your body it can be a marker for cardiovascular risk too, fish oil, curcumin, magnesium are all some things that can lower it - primarily fish oil.

What its from, could be alot of things, you could be sick, solvents in your gear, metabolic issues etc, but you should definitely try and bring it down

and yes - i load all my gear into one shot.

For e2, at that test dose its interesting its that low, seems eq is very powerful for lowering
 
Dreamer said:
CRP is an inflammation marker, you have some inflammation in your body it can be a marker for cardiovascular risk too, fish oil, curcumin, magnesium are all some things that can lower it - primarily fish oil.

What its from, could be alot of things, you could be sick, solvents in your gear, metabolic issues etc, but you should definitely try and bring it down

and yes - i load all my gear into one shot.

For e2, at that test dose its interesting its that low, seems eq is very powerful for lowering
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So I have been taking my test on top of my trt script, should I just be taking one. In total that amount if I add my trt dose it comes to 160mg (trt) + 300mg (cycle) test shot??
 
Dreamer said:
CRP is an inflammation marker, you have some inflammation in your body it can be a marker for cardiovascular risk too, fish oil, curcumin, magnesium are all some things that can lower it - primarily fish oil.

What its from, could be alot of things, you could be sick, solvents in your gear, metabolic issues etc, but you should definitely try and bring it down

and yes - i load all my gear into one shot.

For e2, at that test dose its interesting its that low, seems eq is very powerful for lowering
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I take one fish oil capsules and one capsule of magnesium everyday should I increase it? If so to what??
 
rayray01 said:
So I have been taking my test on top of my trt script, should I just be taking one or in total thst amount if I add my art dose it comes to 160mg (trt) + 300mg (cycle) test shot??
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Honestly, the way I would do it is 460mg divided over 7 days and do daily pins, or if you want to do it over 2-3-4 whatever your doing just divide the total.

Daily pinning is ideal in my opinion, but not absolutely necessary
 
rayray01 said:
Eq is 100mg did the same with eq vial
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Your e2 mitigation might be hyperresponsive due to the EQ. Do you feel any low e2 symptoms? Might have to lower the EQ.
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I am not sure what crp is?
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It's just a protein your liver pushes out saying I'm firing on all cylinders here but we're good to go. It will go down when you're off cycle. If you can get your hands on N2Guard it will help that a lot.
 
Dreamer said:
CRP is an inflammation marker, you have some inflammation in your body it can be a marker for cardiovascular risk too, fish oil, curcumin, magnesium are all some things that can lower it - primarily fish oil.

What its from, could be alot of things, you could be sick, solvents in your gear, metabolic issues etc, but you should definitely try and bring it down

and yes - i load all my gear into one shot.

For e2, at that test dose its interesting its that low, seems eq is very powerful for lowering
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When u share solvents inbthe gear? What does that mean, is that something i am.messing up in pinning that is causing it?
 
rayray01 said:
Rhythm health test results are back... @LevButlerov
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Next time I'd ask for prolactin as well just because it's likely covered and you won't pay. With that little deca you'll be fine though.
 
HarleyGuy said:
Your e2 mitigation might be hyperresponsive due to the EQ. Do you feel any low e2 symptoms? Might have to lower the EQ.
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I am not even sure what would be those symptoms??


HarleyGuy said:
It's just a protein your liver pushes out saying I'm firing on all cylinders here but we're good to go. It will go down when you're off cycle. If you can get your hands on N2Guard it will help that a lot.
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I do have n2gaurd and I started it like 3 days ago...
 
rayray01 said:
When u share solvents inbthe gear? What does that mean, is that something i am.messing up in pinning that is causing it?
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Nope you're obviously pinning perfectly based on your T and FreeT levels hahaha. Solvents in gear will cause inflammation and cause your liver some stress hence the high CRP.
 
rayray01 said:
I do have n2gaurd and I started it like 3 days ago...
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Good! Take the full 7 caps 12 hours around your oral PED's. So if you take your proviron at 8am take the N2Guard after dinner or vice versa, etc.
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I am not even sure what would be those symptoms??
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Biggest warning signs (for me) are irritability, and achy joints.
 
rayray01 said:
Prolactin is that a lab test that I need or something else??
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Prolactin is just added to the tests you had above in your bloodwork. For being on cycle your bloodwork looked decent to be honest.
 
rayray01 said:
would it be ok if I do i shot with all 3 in shot??
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Yes by all means load all your gear into one syringe. Less scar tissue pinning separately for no reason. The body will deal with cleaving the esters and then absorbing the compounds individually as if you took them separate it's all good.
 
HarleyGuy said:
Good! Take the full 7 caps 12 hours around your oral PED's. So if you take your proviron at 8am take the N2Guard after dinner or vice versa, etc.
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Ok i take proviron before going to the gym in the morning and taking 1 n2gaurd with breakfast, lunch and dinner. But will change it to as advised.
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Biggest warning signs (for me) are irritability, and achy joints.
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A little bit of both i would say...
 
rayray01 said:
Ok i take proviron before going to the gym in the morning and taking 1 n2gaurd with breakfast, lunch and dinner. But will change it to as advised.

A little bit of both i would say...
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Ok so take 7 caps of N2Guard with breakfast

And yes those are symptoms of low e2. We might need to have you pause the EQ... I'll bump this up to @LevButlerov
 
HarleyGuy said:
Yes by all means load all your gear into one syringe. Less scar tissue pinning separately for no reason. The body will deal with cleaving the esters and then absorbing the compounds individually as if you took them separate it's all good.
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Great so I assume I use different needles to draw for each vial but the same syringe and then change needle to pin it?
 
rayray01 said:
Great so I assume I use different needles to draw for each vial but the same syringe and then change needle to pin it?
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I have 5CC syringes. I use ONE (1) 18g syringe to load either 1 or 2 (or 5) compounds depending on where I'm at. Then take the 18g or whatever you loaded with and take it off, screw on the one you're going to pin with (for example a 1" 25g for delts) and pin using a fresh needle that hasn't been through up to a half dozen stoppers hence dulling the needle.

Alcohol swab the top of the vials too and let it dry before loading. Alcohol swab the pin area too, let it dry a few seconds, then pin and use swab to stop the little dab of blood that sometimes presents.
 
HarleyGuy said:
I have 5CC syringes. I use ONE (1) 18g syringe to load either 1 or 2 (or 5) compounds depending on where I'm at. Then take the 18g or whatever you loaded with and take it off, screw on the one you're going to pin with (for example a 1" 25g for delts) and pin using a fresh needle that hasn't been through up to a half dozen stoppers hence dulling the needle.

Alcohol swab the top of the vials too and let it dry before loading. Alcohol swab the pin area too, let it dry a few seconds, then pin and use swab to stop the little dab of blood that sometimes presents.
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That helps... thank you so very much... @HarleyGuy
 
Dreamer said:
I take 8000mg of fish oil daily which I have 0.1 crp every test.
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This is what I do too. Start slamming the fish oils but make sure it's both krill oil with more omega 3's added too. You'll mostly find ratios of 600EPA/300DHA
 
HarleyGuy said:
This is what I do too. Start slamming the fish oils but make sure it's both krill oil with more omega 3's added too. You'll mostly find ratios of 600EPA/300DHA
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perfect :D
 
rayray01 said:
Taking 300mg test, last week may have been slightly over 400mg because there was very little bit left in the vial which I used up. Eq is 100mg did the same with eq vial as well and deca is 50mg and 1 proviron.
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you sure you're dosing eq right? @rayray01
 
Dreamer said:
I take 8000mg of fish oil daily which I have 0.1 crp every test.

Anytime man, I am not an expert but will help whereever I can
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Man you are being humble, sharing knowledge, wisdom, experience, however u classify it, goes a long way for a rookie like myself. I promise I am quick a picking things up, and I will follow as advised.
 
Dreamer said:
Oh my, what have you been dosing?
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Man way too much, man been treating it like 1 ml syringe so probably 5 time the amount.. smh..or i dont even know, i will habe her over tomorrow and go with her and get the rigjt stuff and habe her walk me through the dosing and how much and all to makensure i get it right... freaking no one but myself to blame.
 
rayray01 said:
Of eq, test and deca...using the same for all 3... so fucking up all 3.
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Thats a big cycle man, that would explain some of your bloods - the good news your handling those doses not too bad, but need to reset and align
 
Dreamer said:
Thats a big cycle man, that would explain some of your bloods - the good news your handling those doses not too bad, but need to reset and align
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Not sure about handling it...lol freaking everything is out of whack... only positive takeaway is already consistent testing identified and help root cause the issue
 
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