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LevButlerov said:
@BeMe always good to take 2 days off, you eat big and train hard, body does need rest :D looking forward to the bloods.
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My doctor requisitioned a couple new tests this time. Not sure if it's related to me telling him I'm on cycle and what I'm running.

You ever heard of a methyl malonic acid test?
He's also added an RBC folate test.

Both new to me @LevButlerov
 
BeMe said:
My doctor requisitioned a couple new tests this time. Not sure if it's related to me telling him I'm on cycle and what I'm running.

You ever heard of a methyl malonic acid test?
He's also added an RBC folate test.

Both new to me @LevButlerov
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This is usually used to detect a vitamin B12 deficiency but I doubt you have any with all the meat you eat. :D @BeMe
 
LevButlerov said:
This is usually used to detect a vitamin B12 deficiency but I doubt you have any with all the meat you eat. :D @BeMe
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Oh ya that was one of the things my doctor was worried about last we spoke. I think it was in relation to my HDL being chronically low. Even pre-trt is was a bit low.
 
Preliminary bloodwork is in @LevButlerov

I think it looks pretty good overall. My liver is really handling things well.

The low urate is a bit worrying and my hematocrit is starting to creep up. This is week 16 and my last week in cycle though.

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BeMe said:
Preliminary bloodwork is in @LevButlerov

I think it looks pretty good overall. My liver is really handling things well.

The low urate is a bit worrying and my hematocrit is starting to creep up. This is week 16 and my last week in cycle though.

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@BeMe I dont see a problem in your bloods so far at all. :D hematocrit a bit high, add fish oil omega 3 daily and you doing ED aspirin?
 
LevButlerov said:
@BeMe I dont see a problem in your bloods so far at all. :D hematocrit a bit high, add fish oil omega 3 daily and you doing ED aspirin?
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No aspirin but I take 8000mg a day of fish oil.

For the aspirin should I just take 1 baby aspirin a day?
 
BeMe said:
I'm just so manly I need poosy food to balance things out lol
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bro i'm gonna bake some spring rolls to take to my neighbors whose roof i blew up by mistake on 4th of july. plus gonna take him ice cream sundae too.
 
Log Day 108

Bloodwork came back looking pretty good for 16 weeks on cycle. My doc didn't order a hormone panel tho which is kind of annoying. I guess my only concern was estradiol but I'm not feeling any estrogenic sides and I was within range on my last test at 250mg test so I doubt 300mg moved the needle too much.

Still hitting strong numbers in the gym. Hit a squat rep PR and then a deadlift rep PR right after.

This will be my last week in my training cycle, so balls to the wall. Also my last week on cycle before I start to taper off. Gotta make the most of it this week.

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BeMe said:
Bro I've been on 400g+ protein for the last 13-14 weeks lol. One of the first tips I got from @LevButlerov when he saw I was pretty low carb was to up my protein to 400g. Most days I'm 400 protein, 120 far, 250 carbs. I went high carb last night cuz I felt like my body really needed it
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bros if it works then it works
 
BeMe said:
Ya bang for your buck Vietnamese food is some of the best
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we got a lot of chinese in my area, not so much vietnamese they are more along the coasts in fishing areas
 
BeMe said:
Log Day 108

Bloodwork came back looking pretty good for 16 weeks on cycle. My doc didn't order a hormone panel tho which is kind of annoying. I guess my only concern was estradiol but I'm not feeling any estrogenic sides and I was within range on my last test at 250mg test so I doubt 300mg moved the needle too much.

Still hitting strong numbers in the gym. Hit a squat rep PR and then a deadlift rep PR right after.

This will be my last week in my training cycle, so balls to the wall. Also my last week on cycle before I start to taper off. Gotta make the most of it this week.

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@BeMe good detailed updates man.........
 
BeMe said:
No aspirin but I take 8000mg a day of fish oil.

For the aspirin should I just take 1 baby aspirin a day?
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1 baby aspirin EOD 80mgs or so. Start today :D
 
BeMe said:
Already took one haha. This is my last week on cycle anyway. Monday I will start tapering off back to sports TRT and 2iu of GH
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it's the perfect start :D
 
BeMe said:
Hopefully it will help me hold onto most of my gains til my next cycle in October. I should have a gear porn pic for that cycle any day now
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The aspirin? I think it will help health only :D
 
LevButlerov said:
Aspirin size lol :P
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If only lol

One thing I am curious about is my macros. Currently I need around 4000kcal to run a bit of a surplus to gain. If I go off cycle how much do I need to decrease that by? I'm usually aiming for 400 protein, 100 fat, 250 carbs each day but the carbs I cycle. I'm the podcast they said you need to decrease your macros but mobster didn't say by how much.
 
BeMe said:
If only lol

One thing I am curious about is my macros. Currently I need around 4000kcal to run a bit of a surplus to gain. If I go off cycle how much do I need to decrease that by? I'm usually aiming for 400 protein, 100 fat, 250 carbs each day but the carbs I cycle. I'm the podcast they said you need to decrease your macros but mobster didn't say by how much.
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Off cycle I would say 250 grams of protein, 80 fat, 150-200 carbs, you want to keep it balanced.
 
LevButlerov said:
Off cycle I would say 250 grams of protein, 80 fat, 150-200 carbs, you want to keep it balanced.
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Life's going to be so easy only eating 250g of protein. I remember thinking 250g of protein in a day was work before, but it's child's play now lol. 400g+ a day for 15 weeks felt like too but not anymore. Funny what you get used too.
 
BeMe said:
You know I gotta ask...how did you blow up his roof?
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bro with fireworks. set them off and they landed on his roof. he came by next morning with shotgun ready for trouble but when he saw my fat wife and pit he turned around and went home
 
BodyMonster34 said:
bro with fireworks. set them off and they landed on his roof. he came by next morning with shotgun ready for trouble but when he saw my fat wife and pit he turned around and went home
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I wonder which one scared him more. Maybe he figured the shotty wouldn't have enough stopping power for the wife
 
Log Day 109

I had my worst training session all cycle yesterday. I dropped 2 or 3 reps on a lot of my movements. Cooked myself at work and had nothing left in the tank for training. I was up and down a 28' extension ladder all day roasting in the sun. Should've taken my pre-workout for a boost but I didn't think about it. Just started week 7 of a training cycle so there's probably some systemic fatigue built up as well. Just gotta dig deep and push harder this week.

Cycled up my carbs to try and aid recovery after a heavy day. Ate a ton of beef last night. Slept pretty good and work up feeling better this morning.

High libido is really costing me a lot of sleep. The psychology of it all is pretty funny. It's like ego lifting. Everytime I tell myself just a quicky my ego kicks in and there goes half an hour of sleep lol.

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BeMe said:
Life's going to be so easy only eating 250g of protein. I remember thinking 250g of protein in a day was work before, but it's child's play now lol. 400g+ a day for 15 weeks felt like too but not anymore. Funny what you get used too.
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I mean my suggestion is the base. You should cycle that on leg day 320 grams on chest day back day 300 grams then drop down to 250 on rest and small muscle groups, same with carbs. We should protein carb cycle. :D @BeMe
 
LevButlerov said:
I mean my suggestion is the base. You should cycle that on leg day 320 grams on chest day back day 300 grams then drop down to 250 on rest and small muscle groups, same with carbs. We should protein carb cycle. :D @BeMe
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Sounds like a good plan. I will do just that. I'm gonna do an arm focused 5 day split to try and catch my arms up to my chest and back.

What about calories? Currently my maintenance calories are somewhere around 3700-3800kcal. Would that be a good surplus level once I'm off cycle and just on TRT+ with 2iu GH.

Is there a general rule of maintenance calories on cycle vs off cycle?
 
BeMe said:
Sounds like a good plan. I will do just that. I'm gonna do an arm focused 5 day split to try and catch my arms up to my chest and back.
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@BeMe 5 days is good, and you need cardio pre and post, and 1 day cardio.
BeMe said:
What about calories? Currently my maintenance calories are somewhere around 3700-3800kcal. Would that be a good surplus level once I'm off cycle and just on TRT+ with 2iu GH.
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I would NOT worry about calories at all, those mean nothing. Only macros matter.

whats your TRT dose plan?
BeMe said:
Is there a general rule of maintenance calories on cycle vs off cycle?
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No rules, calories is a number for fat obese guys which you're not :D
 
LevButlerov said:
@BeMe 5 days is good, and you need cardio pre and post, and 1 day cardio.

I would NOT worry about calories at all, those mean nothing. Only macros matter.

whats your TRT dose plan?

No rules, calories is a number for fat obese guys which you're not :D
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Lol I've heard bodybuilders say only normal people worry about calories.

Only macros matter, got it! That I can manage no prob.

For TRT I was previously running 180mg a week before this cycle. That had me just below 900 free.

You and I discussed sports TRT at 250mg. Given my bloodwork I think that would be a manageable dose even when I drop the Primo. I'm gonna run the 250mg/week and I have full bloodwork coming up in late August and I can see how I'm looking then. I have some Aromasin on hand already just in case I start getting itchy nipples lol.
 
BeMe said:
Lol I've heard bodybuilders say only normal people worry about calories.

Only macros matter, got it! That I can manage no prob.

For TRT I was previously running 180mg a week before this cycle. That had me just below 900 free.

You and I discussed sports TRT at 250mg. Given my bloodwork I think that would be a manageable dose even when I drop the Primo. I'm gonna run the 250mg/week and I have full bloodwork coming up in late August and I can see how I'm looking then. I have some Aromasin on hand already just in case I start getting itchy nipples lol.
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For TRT, 250mgs/week is a better dose for you IMO, you're already advanced enough to run closer to sports TRT IMO. @BeMe
 
LevButlerov said:
For TRT, 250mgs/week is a better dose for you IMO, you're already advanced enough to run closer to sports TRT IMO. @BeMe
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I think it should be good to. Plus I have bloodwork setup so we will know for sure how I'm looking at that dose.
 
BeMe said:
I wonder which one scared him more. Maybe he figured the shotty wouldn't have enough stopping power for the wife
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bro in texas you better be ready to fight if you challenge another redneck especially when drunk on hooch
 
LevButlerov said:
Tasty high protein dinner :D @BeMe made me hungry looking at those ribs!
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Not me anymore....I ate all 595g of them lol. I'm stuffed. Higher fat than I'd like but I can treat it like a cheat. I've had 3 really big days in a row.
 
BeMe said:
Not me anymore....I ate all 595g of them lol. I'm stuffed. Higher fat than I'd like but I can treat it like a cheat. I've had 3 really big days in a row.
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Higher fat is fine, you're growing from it too. :D @BeMe
 
BeMe said:
Definitely...you should see the size of my belly right now. I've got Palumboism lol
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Don't hate on Palumbo lol :P you take some digestive enzymes and probiotics with it? @BeMe
 
LevButlerov said:
Don't hate on Palumbo lol :P you take some digestive enzymes and probiotics with it? @BeMe
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No hate, he shares a lot of great info on YouTube I just literally had that turtle shell that Arnold hates so much lol

I messed up and forgot to take my enzymes and citrus Bergamot before the meal...realized right when I finished

Probiotics and p husk everyday, and I did take digestive enzymes before meal 3.
 
BeMe said:
Life's going to be so easy only eating 250g of protein. I remember thinking 250g of protein in a day was work before, but it's child's play now lol. 400g+ a day for 15 weeks felt like too but not anymore. Funny what you get used too.
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You’ll probably go over your protein by accident now hahahaha
 
BeMe said:
No hate, he shares a lot of great info on YouTube I just literally had that turtle shell that Arnold hates so much lol

I messed up and forgot to take my enzymes and citrus Bergamot before the meal...realized right when I finished

Probiotics and p husk everyday, and I did take digestive enzymes before meal 3.
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Man, I think I just had a bad experience with psyllium husk. I was feeling a little backed up, I took my psyllium husk before bed like I always do. I woke up early feeling weird. Really weird. Really early. I started feeling like my heart was racing. It was scary. And I could feel I was backed up. I vomitted. Felt better a little, not like I was going to die, but was really worried and I could just hear Steve’s voice in my head “if you take psyllium husk you could die” hahahaha. Finally got the number two done. Rough night. Not sure if the psyllium husk hurt me or helped me.
 
toddthelineman said:
Man, I think I just had a bad experience with psyllium husk. I was feeling a little backed up, I took my psyllium husk before bed like I always do. I woke up early feeling weird. Really weird. Really early. I started feeling like my heart was racing. It was scary. And I could feel I was backed up. I vomitted. Felt better a little, not like I was going to die, but was really worried and I could just hear Steve’s voice in my head “if you take psyllium husk you could die” hahahaha. Finally got the number two done. Rough night. Not sure if the psyllium husk hurt me or helped me.
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Who's Steve that says p husk can kill you?

Man that sounds scary. Stomach problems get super painful too. Opiates will have you literally shitting bricks no matter how much fiber you take lol.

My digestion runs like clockwork these days. I don't think I really need the p husk but everyone says it's a must so I just take 8g a day. My dietary fiber is so high already I don't think I need as much as most. Might be keeping me alive lol
 
BeMe said:
Who's Steve that says p husk can kill you?
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it’s in the podcast, @stevesmi says it a few times.

For sure I was being dramatic but there was a time that I apparently couldn’t tolerate very much fiber at all. My stomach was a wreck for years and I’m absolutely convinced that being 99.9% carnivore is what allowed it to heal. So this whole episode kind of game me flashbacks hahaha. But also possibly things like the dozens of vials of bpc157 I’ve gone through healed me. That was later in my carnivore thing, and led me to PEDs eventually.

I was scared of fiber for a long time, didn’t feel like I needed it. As I found I could tolerate it, little by little it’s been nice to crap like a normal human instead of such low volume. Then I read about the benefits of PH on here, decided to try it out. I feel like it sort of just locks in the regularity. I don’t know if I’m getting any above and beyond benefits. 2 tsp at night is what I take.
 
toddthelineman said:
it’s in the podcast, @stevesmi says it a few times.

For sure I was being dramatic but there was a time that I apparently couldn’t tolerate very much fiber at all. My stomach was a wreck for years and I’m absolutely convinced that being 99.9% carnivore is what allowed it to heal. So this whole episode kind of game me flashbacks hahaha. But also possibly things like the dozens of vials of bpc157 I’ve gone through healed me. That was later in my carnivore thing, and led me to PEDs eventually.

I was scared of fiber for a long time, didn’t feel like I needed it. As I found I could tolerate it, little by little it’s been nice to crap like a normal human instead of such low volume. Then I read about the benefits of PH on here, decided to try it out. I feel like it sort of just locks in the regularity. I don’t know if I’m getting any above and beyond benefits. 2 tsp at night is what I take.
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Yep that's basically the same dose I'm on. I think I remember @Npcclassicphysique champ mentioned in someone's log that psyllium husk also protects the prostate. I could be misremembering tho. I'm sure he can clarify
 
BeMe said:
Yep that's basically the same dose I'm on. I think I remember @Npcclassicphysique champ mentioned in someone's log that psyllium husk also protects the prostate. I could be misremembering tho. I'm sure he can clarify
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Yeah Lev said that recently for sure. I’m pretty interested in that. When I was a drinker I had prostate issues, I believe. Didn’t know what it was at the time. Was always thinking I was getting stds from banging every girl I knew hahaha. But I was always clean, well, almost always
 
toddthelineman said:
Yeah Lev said that recently for sure. I’m pretty interested in that. When I was a drinker I had prostate issues, I believe. Didn’t know what it was at the time. Was always thinking I was getting stds from banging every girl I knew hahaha. But I was always clean, well, almost always
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Yea drinking on the regular causes so many problems.. better off with a drug addiction unless it's meth lol
 
BeMe said:
Yea drinking on the regular causes so many problems.. better off with a drug addiction unless it's meth lol
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People think I’m crazy when I tell them that, but it’s basically true. Even traditional heroin is technically less toxic than alcohol, other than that pesky respiratory repression that… kills you sometimes. Fentanyl probably not. And even though meth is completely disgusting, if you tightly controlled your dosing, frequency, eating and sleep, you could use it with minimal repercussions. But that would be true of alcohol too. One drink a day very unlikely to hurt you, but that’s no fun. We’re trying to get smashed and naked and fall on each other hahaha
 
BeMe said:
How you gonna be the BM if you're drinking bro. Why not just get high on life...or weed lol
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bro i don't drink very much. occasional hooch here and there. but lovin life. everyone jealous of the life i have. i got paid off trailer. SSBBW wife who loves sex 5x a day, great job making good $$. and big family. what else not to love?
 
BodyMonster34 said:
bro i don't drink very much. occasional hooch here and there. but lovin life. everyone jealous of the life i have. i got paid off trailer. SSBBW wife who loves sex 5x a day, great job making good $$. and big family. what else not to love?
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I would call that a good life worth living. You get to lift weights, chase lot lizards and got plenty of beef to eat! I say your living the life!
 
toddthelineman said:
People think I’m crazy when I tell them that, but it’s basically true. Even traditional heroin is technically less toxic than alcohol, other than that pesky respiratory repression that… kills you sometimes. Fentanyl probably not. And even though meth is completely disgusting, if you tightly controlled your dosing, frequency, eating and sleep, you could use it with minimal repercussions. But that would be true of alcohol too. One drink a day very unlikely to hurt you, but that’s no fun. We’re trying to get smashed and naked and fall on each other hahaha
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Yea who can stop at 1 drink lol.
 
BodyMonster34 said:
bro i don't drink very much. occasional hooch here and there. but lovin life. everyone jealous of the life i have. i got paid off trailer. SSBBW wife who loves sex 5x a day, great job making good $$. and big family. what else not to love?
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All you need is some Tren and Mast and you're good to go
 
Log Day 110

Pretty average day in the gym yesterday. Just basically hit the same numbers as the week before with a bit of progression on a few sets. I think the systemic fatigue of being in week 7 of a training cycle and the hot and heavy working conditions lately are taking their toll. Definitely in need of a rest day and my upcoming deload week.

Sleep has been a bit below average lately. Not sure what's going on there. I seem to wake up early for no reason, but fall back asleep no problem. I don't feel like I'm sleeping as deeply. My body is pretty sore so maybe that's effecting my sleep quality.

Only 2 days left on cycle and then time to taper.

Felt like Tom Platz in my mind doing tib bar raises yesterday lol.

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BeMe said:
Also got a TD from @Fusion Canada today

Ready for my next cycle towards the end of October. Think I might just run the Tren with my test and GH but I'm open to suggestions.

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When will you start the tren?! What will you dose it at? How long? 500mg/wk for 8 weeks?! 400 for 10? You’re not playing around now. My buddy ran tren, he’s naturally tiny. He was benching 360 for reps and was like 220 pounds.
 
toddthelineman said:
When will you start the tren?! What will you dose it at? How long? 500mg/wk for 8 weeks?! 400 for 10? You’re not playing around now. My buddy ran tren, he’s naturally tiny. He was benching 360 for reps and was like 220 pounds.
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I'm gonna low dose it to start and see how I feel. That's why I grabbed ace so quick in and quick out if it's a problem. First week 75mg, then 2nd week 150mg then maybe 225mg. Sounds like 225mg is the max effective dose and afterwards the benefits to sides ratio starts to get pretty bad. I'll probably have some bloodwork scheduled for week 4 so I can see how I'm doing at 225mg.

I'm not sure though cuz I've always had I high tolerance for every drug and alcohol. I always needed twice as much as my buddies to get the same experience and I'm still trying to sort out if that applies to peds too. I've seen some people have explained they had the same issues with fun drugs and peds.

I'm really gonna just go with the flow and see what my body tells me. If anything I saw vigorous Steve talk about the benefits of running very low dose Tren so I can always use it that way if need be and run it with other cycles.
 
BeMe said:
I'm gonna low dose it to start and see how I feel. That's why I grabbed ace so quick in and quick out if it's a problem. First week 75mg, then 2nd week 150mg then maybe 225mg. Sounds like 225mg is the max effective dose and afterwards the benefits to sides ratio starts to get pretty bad. I'll probably have some bloodwork scheduled for week 4 so I can see how I'm doing at 225mg.

I'm not sure though cuz I've always had I high tolerance for every drug and alcohol. I always needed twice as much as my buddies to get the same experience and I'm still trying to sort out if that applies to peds too. I've seen some people have explained they had the same issues with fun drugs and peds.

I'm really gonna just go with the flow and see what my body tells me. If anything I saw vigorous Steve talk about the benefits of running very low dose Tren so I can always use it that way if need be and run it with other cycles.
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I was very much that way with rec drugs and alcohol. To the extreme. But I seem to get a lot out of PEDs without going very high dose. Of course, I haven’t ever ran a gram and I never was huge or especially strong. But aesthetically it seems like I got a lot out of not that much. Fast too.
 
BeMe said:
No hate, he shares a lot of great info on YouTube I just literally had that turtle shell that Arnold hates so much lol

I messed up and forgot to take my enzymes and citrus Bergamot before the meal...realized right when I finished

Probiotics and p husk everyday, and I did take digestive enzymes before meal 3.
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I think Arnold hates it because he can't win lol :P @BeMe
 
toddthelineman said:
I was very much that way with rec drugs and alcohol. To the extreme. But I seem to get a lot out of PEDs without going very high dose. Of course, I haven’t ever ran a gram and I never was huge or especially strong. But aesthetically it seems like I got a lot out of not that much. Fast too.
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I hope that's true for me too. It would save me a lot of money lol. I figured I already paid my dues on the fun drugs lol
 
kcates said:
I would call that a good life worth living. You get to lift weights, chase lot lizards and got plenty of beef to eat! I say your living the life!
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bro hell yeah so many jealous people wish they had my life. plus i'm a breeder. i want to hit 100 kids by the time i die
 
RoidRage69 said:
So his wife likes sex 5 times a day. I wonder how many lot lizards she chases while he is on tanker for days on end.
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bro why don't you cum to texas and find out. you don't got clean lot lizards where you from
 
BeMe said:
So if I want to be like BM I gotta run my Tren as my base. Got it! I'm stocked up and ready to be a man lol
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There’s a YouTuber that does that. He takes a small amount of oestrogen and runs tren replacement therapy and he loves it. He actually seems like a sort of well put together dude until he starts oversharing and you’re like, nah, this guy is a ticking bomb. Idk. Maybe he’s got it all figured out, but I’m not placing bets on him
 
toddthelineman said:
There’s a YouTuber that does that. He takes a small amount of oestrogen and runs tren replacement therapy and he loves it. He actually seems like a sort of well put together dude until he starts oversharing and you’re like, nah, this guy is a ticking bomb. Idk. Maybe he’s got it all figured out, but I’m not placing bets on him
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Tren replacement therapy lol. That's pretty jokes.
 
BeMe said:
So if I want to be like BM I gotta run my Tren as my base. Got it! I'm stocked up and ready to be a man lol
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bro tren should be base of all cycles
 
RoidRage69 said:
I have RoidRageWife to take care of. She is all I need.
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bro men supposed to breed. you don't see a dog walking down the street sticking to one bish. gotta have multiple to scratch that itch
 
Log Day 111

Yesterday was a much needed rest day. Made sure I got my 10k steps in and just took it easy for the rest of the night. Ate a semi cheat meal for dinner and got a quesadilla and taco bowl. Carbs got up a bit higher then I wanted but sometimes that helps with my recovery. Unfortunately I'm still feeling a bit run down but it is what it is given my situation. This is the first time I've tried pushing my training cycle to 7 weeks then deload, but I think it's a bit too long. Lesson learned.

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BeMe said:
Log Day 111

Yesterday was a much needed rest day. Made sure I got my 10k steps in and just took it easy for the rest of the night. Ate a semi cheat meal for dinner and got a quesadilla and taco bowl. Carbs got up a bit higher then I wanted but sometimes that helps with my recovery. Unfortunately I'm still feeling a bit run down but it is what it is given my situation. This is the first time I've tried pushing my training cycle to 7 weeks then deload, but I think it's a bit too long. Lesson learned.

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Semi rest went well, and we need to see the pic of semi cheat next time please lol :P @BeMe you are keeping protein high very intense, true protein KING!
 
LevButlerov said:
Semi rest went well, and we need to see the pic of semi cheat next time please lol :P @BeMe you are keeping protein high very intense, true protein KING!
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Thanks @LevButlerov

It comes some easy now. I'm hungry lol. I eat a lot of meat and then at the end of the day I'm like oh 450g of protein, or 480, or 500!!! It just happens.

I think the NPP has really spiked my appetite a lot
 
I had a quick question for you @LevButlerov

I'm getting a little bit of heart burn these past few days. Nothing terrible but it's definitely noticeable. I'm taking by digestive enzymes and p husk.

I seems to flare up randomly sometimes just after I drink water. After meals as well.

I remember Dr. Todd Lee made a video about hydration and said bodybuilders wouldn't get heartburn if they drink sea salt water. Is that true?

I've only had the heart burn for a few days so I'm hoping it just goes away on its own but I figured I'd ask if I need to do something about this.
 
BeMe said:
Thanks @LevButlerov

It comes some easy now. I'm hungry lol. I eat a lot of meat and then at the end of the day I'm like oh 450g of protein, or 480, or 500!!! It just happens.

I think the NPP has really spiked my appetite a lot
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As long as you feel good on it eat it :D
 
BeMe said:
I had a quick question for you @LevButlerov

I'm getting a little bit of heart burn these past few days. Nothing terrible but it's definitely noticeable. I'm taking by digestive enzymes and p husk.

I seems to flare up randomly sometimes just after I drink water. After meals as well.

I remember Dr. Todd Lee made a video about hydration and said bodybuilders wouldn't get heartburn if they drink sea salt water. Is that true?

I've only had the heart burn for a few days so I'm hoping it just goes away on its own but I figured I'd ask if I need to do something about this.
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I would not do salt water, but try 1 tbps of apple cider vinegar in warm water big cup after meal, should help :D @BeMe
 
Log Day 112

16 weeks on cycle. Started really low so not sure if I'd call it a true 16 week cycle. More just finding my footing as a first timer.

Still feeling pretty fatigued. I was able to hit my numbers during training yesterday but I felt like I had no endurance to keep the numbers up for sets 3 or sometimes 2. I think I'm going to take 2 days off in a row before hitting my last day in this training cycle. We'll see how I feel on Sunday.

I was looking really good with a pump yesterday. Had to take a pic and post it. When I compared it to previous pictures I could really see my progression and it felt great.

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BeMe said:
Got a pretty nice pump working tri's today

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ripped and big, huge arms big chest brother @BeMe vascular too
BeMe said:
Log Day 112

16 weeks on cycle. Started really low so not sure if I'd call it a true 16 week cycle. More just finding my footing as a first timer.

Still feeling pretty fatigued. I was able to hit my numbers during training yesterday but I felt like I had no endurance to keep the numbers up for sets 3 or sometimes 2. I think I'm going to take 2 days off in a row before hitting my last day in this training cycle. We'll see how I feel on Sunday.

I was looking really good with a pump yesterday. Had to take a pic and post it. When I compared it to previous pictures I could really see my progression and it felt great.

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if you tired a bit you need to take 2 days off weekend
 
Npcclassicphysique champ said:
ripped and big, huge arms big chest brother @BeMe vascular too

if you tired a bit you need to take 2 days off weekend
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Thanks bro!

Ya it's looking like I'm going to need both days off. Struggled with endurance training today as well. I only have 1 day left in this training cycle before my deload so I have a nice break coming soon. I tried this 7 week plus deload training cycle for the first time but it's just a bit too much.
 
BeMe said:
Thanks bro!

Ya it's looking like I'm going to need both days off. Struggled with endurance training today as well. I only have 1 day left in this training cycle before my deload so I have a nice break coming soon. I tried this 7 week plus deload training cycle for the first time but it's just a bit too much.
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take both days off and on both day get cheat meals in! not protein carbs that you lack brother ;) @BeMe
 
Npcclassicphysique champ said:
take both days off and on both day get cheat meals in! not protein carbs that you lack brother ;) @BeMe
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Got it. I'm going outta town for the long weekend here so cheat meals won't be a problem. Guess I'll have to eat some higher fat...doctors orders right
 
willipede said:
Solid physique bro, killer pump

I find I do better with moderate/lower volume than I see most guys doing because that's all I can recover from.
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Ive tried really high volume too and it didn't work for me. I work on the tools all day so I burn a ton of energy at work.

This split I'm doing right now I'd class as moderate. Typically between 80-90 sets a week. I'm just run down cuz it's been so hot here at work and then I'm doing at the end of week 7 in this training cycle. You're in Aus right? Our heat is obviously not as bad as yours but up here in Canada we aren't built for it lol
 
BeMe said:
Got it. I'm going outta town for the long weekend here so cheat meals won't be a problem. Guess I'll have to eat some higher fat...doctors orders right
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we going to get some pics of your trip brother? ;)
 
BeMe said:
Ive tried really high volume too and it didn't work for me. I work on the tools all day so I burn a ton of energy at work.

This split I'm doing right now I'd class as moderate. Typically between 80-90 sets a week. I'm just run down cuz it's been so hot here at work and then I'm doing at the end of week 7 in this training cycle. You're in Aus right? Our heat is obviously not as bad as yours but up here in Canada we aren't built for it lol
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Especially if you don't get a chance to eat every couple hours while doing manual labour, it wasn't until I was injured and couldn't work like that, then I was able to put on size a lot quicker.

Wet, cold and miserable over here at the moment. Nearly through with our winter

I dont think we are built for the cold here like you guys either
 
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