Frequent traveller: TRT with Undecanoate?

[CountryWA]

I'm approx 50, had been off gear about 25 years, but maintained training, but recently just thriving and feeling great off 140mg/wk split up E3D with Test E (UGL).

I split dosage E3D because I am prone to gyno (family trait), this dosage and routine seems my sweet spot where I get max return and minimal estrogen affect and bloods look good (so far).

One problem is, I have to travel a bit for work soon (mostly 1.5-3 weeks at a time, approx 5 weeks inbetween trips), and so was wondering if Undecanoate might be a good idea, either just before the trip, or become my new regular routine?

Steady levels would be the aim again to the extent it can be (maybe take test E upon return, soon followed by another undecanoate (given U peak will be slow after my return home, and E might trail off and hit it's half life in the ball park of the U peak).

Is there any potential downside to undecanoate vs test e? Does a hybrid approach which tries to manage peaks and troughs seem best? Or just Test U 100mg E5D permanently (pending bloods and health looking good), and take my last dose the day I leave, and live with a small trough later in my trip?

 

[Mobster]

Legit TRT often uses it. It's just that Cyp ended up more popular. Only those that self TRT use Test E really.

 

[Infinity Labs]

I'm approx 50, had been off gear about 25 years, but maintained training, but recently just thriving and feeling great off 140mg/wk split up E3D with Test E (UGL).

I split dosage E3D because I am prone to gyno (family trait), this dosage and routine seems my sweet spot where I get max return and minimal estrogen affect and bloods look good (so far).

One problem is, I have to travel a bit for work soon (mostly 1.5-3 weeks at a time, approx 5 weeks inbetween trips), and so was wondering if Undecanoate might be a good idea, either just before the trip, or become my new regular routine?

Steady levels would be the aim again to the extent it can be (maybe take test E upon return, soon followed by another undecanoate (given U peak will be slow after my return home, and E might trail off and hit it's half life in the ball park of the U peak).

Is there any potential downside to undecanoate vs test e? Does a hybrid approach which tries to manage peaks and troughs seem best? Or just Test U 100mg E5D permanently (pending bloods and health looking good), and take my last dose the day I leave, and live with a small trough later in my trip?

I travel for work all the time and have my oils in a bag there and at home but its no issue to travel domestic with oils.Im in Australia not sure where you are.....Everyone is different but trt on Test E is a better choice in my opinion due to Cyp thats releases a bit slower and half life longer.Both are very close compared but trt only and no gym go cyp.If your into the gym going hard again stick with the Enathate

 

[toddthelineman]

I say try it. Have AI ready. But it’ll probably work just fine. Please report back!

 

[Dreamer]

Are you travelling domestic in Aus?

 

[G-Merc 80]

If you are travelling interstate Australia I have never had an issue, i have it in my carry on.

 

[toddthelineman]

If you are travelling interstate Australia I have never had an issue, i have it in my carry on.

So in Australia it’s just simply not illegal? If found in a search you can’t be arrested, fined, confiscated? It’s not common to hear of steroid possession charges in the states, but I’m quite sure you wouldn’t want to find out the hard way. I actually ate a weeks worth of winstrol when I got pulled over many years ago. I was red as a lobster in jail for three days until my buddy found me and bailed me out. Pretty uncomfortable. My poop turned white. Not healthy

 

[G-Merc 80]

So in Australia it’s just simply not illegal? If found in a search you can’t be arrested, fined, confiscated? It’s not common to hear of steroid possession charges in the states, but I’m quite sure you wouldn’t want to find out the hard way. I actually ate a weeks worth of winstrol when I got pulled over many years ago. I was red as a lobster in jail for three days until my buddy found me and bailed me out. Pretty uncomfortable. My poop turned white. Not healthy

Far out! that does not sound good at all brother, Yes it is illegal in Australia without a script but I travel a lot for work and simply has not occured where your stuff is searched, goes through the scanner and then you are good to go to your gate.

 

[SPOONMAN366]

If you are travelling interstate Australia I have never had an issue, i have it in my carry on.

I travel.every 3 weeks for fifo
Been doing it for years
Always had my oils.pins tabs
Always interstate in Australia
Just keep them in a decent case that's shock proof as baggage handlers arw rough as guts and you'll be fine

 

[SPOONMAN366]

Just keep them in a decent case

Always in my suitcase that is not my carry on

 

[Dreamer]

I also travel a heap, I keep everything in suitcase, cops arent looking for trt level test

 

[toddthelineman]

and simply has not occured where your stuff is searched, goes through the scanner and then you are good to g

Been doing it for years

cops arent looking for trt level test

Honestly, these are all the things that are said before someone goes to jail. Really depends on your risk tolerance. Wouldn’t be worth it in the US. I mean, I travel with my gear, but with my history, I know what they will and won’t search. I’ve had a truck impounded and went to jail and got my truck back out with the real catch still in it. Twice! So if you’re driving you can just put it all in a hard case and bury it with sharp, dirty, heavy stuff. Works great. Traveling with a large vicious dog, even better. Both, and you’re definitely good unless nothing can save you hahaha

I have undecanoate on deck if I need it.

 

[Dreamer]

Honestly, these are all the things that are said before someone goes to jail. Really depends on your risk tolerance. Wouldn’t be worth it in the US. I mean, I travel with my gear, but with my history, I know what they will and won’t search. I’ve had a truck impounded and went to jail and got my truck back out with the real catch still in it. Twice! So if you’re driving you can just put it all in a hard case and bury it with sharp, dirty, heavy stuff. Works great. Traveling with a large vicious dog, even better. Both, and you’re definitely good unless nothing can save you hahaha

I have undecanoate on deck if I need it.

The US is a different world thats for sure, if you were travelling with a suitcase full of vials and pills you’d get some issue in Aus, but largely all personal use of every drug is decriminalised here, our government loves fining you

 

[Freki]

So in Australia it’s just simply not illegal? If found in a search you can’t be arrested, fined, confiscated? It’s not common to hear of steroid possession charges in the states, but I’m quite sure you wouldn’t want to find out the hard way. I actually ate a weeks worth of winstrol when I got pulled over many years ago. I was red as a lobster in jail for three days until my buddy found me and bailed me out. Pretty uncomfortable. My poop turned white. Not healthy

But were you ripped afterwards?

 

[Freki]

I'm approx 50, had been off gear about 25 years, but maintained training, but recently just thriving and feeling great off 140mg/wk split up E3D with Test E (UGL).

I split dosage E3D because I am prone to gyno (family trait), this dosage and routine seems my sweet spot where I get max return and minimal estrogen affect and bloods look good (so far).

One problem is, I have to travel a bit for work soon (mostly 1.5-3 weeks at a time, approx 5 weeks inbetween trips), and so was wondering if Undecanoate might be a good idea, either just before the trip, or become my new regular routine?

Steady levels would be the aim again to the extent it can be (maybe take test E upon return, soon followed by another undecanoate (given U peak will be slow after my return home, and E might trail off and hit it's half life in the ball park of the U peak).

Is there any potential downside to undecanoate vs test e? Does a hybrid approach which tries to manage peaks and troughs seem best? Or just Test U 100mg E5D permanently (pending bloods and health looking good), and take my last dose the day I leave, and live with a small trough later in my trip?

Put it in a pen , if anyone stops you tell them its insulin. For oils I use a 29g 13mm tip

 

[stevesmi]

I'm not on TRT yet, but when i do go down that route i would rather pin a bigger amount LESS frequently. so undec would be a good option, you only have to pin every 10-14 weeks or so. but a bigger amount

 

[CountryWA]

Thanks for the replies!

Mostly Aus domestic travel, and occasional overseas travel. Obviously international I would never chance anything, but interesting to hear about aussie domestic travel!

I'll probably reach out to some of the trusted sources regarding some undecanoate, too.

 

[toddthelineman]

But were you ripped afterwards?

Hahaha yeah. I really was

 

[LevButlerov]

I'm approx 50, had been off gear about 25 years, but maintained training, but recently just thriving and feeling great off 140mg/wk split up E3D with Test E (UGL).

I split dosage E3D because I am prone to gyno (family trait), this dosage and routine seems my sweet spot where I get max return and minimal estrogen affect and bloods look good (so far).

One problem is, I have to travel a bit for work soon (mostly 1.5-3 weeks at a time, approx 5 weeks inbetween trips), and so was wondering if Undecanoate might be a good idea, either just before the trip, or become my new regular routine?

Steady levels would be the aim again to the extent it can be (maybe take test E upon return, soon followed by another undecanoate (given U peak will be slow after my return home, and E might trail off and hit it's half life in the ball park of the U peak).

Is there any potential downside to undecanoate vs test e? Does a hybrid approach which tries to manage peaks and troughs seem best? Or just Test U 100mg E5D permanently (pending bloods and health looking good), and take my last dose the day I leave, and live with a small trough later in my trip?

welcome to the EVO family @CountryWA
Undecanoate will keep serum levels flatter for your travel window, but it takes 4-6 weeks to stabilize and clear slowly, so any adjustment takes longer to correct. A hybrid with test enanthate and undecanoate is better. But why don't you just use sustanon 250 instead?

what is your cycle plan now? you're just doing TRT? tell us more, we'd like to know more about you.

 

[CountryWA]

welcome to the EVO family @CountryWA
Undecanoate will keep serum levels flatter for your travel window, but it takes 4-6 weeks to stabilize and clear slowly, so any adjustment takes longer to correct. A hybrid with test enanthate and undecanoate is better. But why don't you just use sustanon 250 instead?

what is your cycle plan now? you're just doing TRT? tell us more, we'd like to know more about you.

At this point it will never be about competing, or trying to crush some sports again. I am just trying to be in optimal shape: strong, learn, relatively free from injuries, living my best life, with bodyfat and bloods in a good place. Ideally progressing each year rather than declining!

I can't imagine I would ever really start a legit cycle heavy again, unless my joints were happy with me putting that kind of weight on again. But I'll go with the flow and see how my body is coping. Ideally I might start including things beyond lifting and cardio that help joints, balance and flexibility

 

[Mobster]

I'm not on TRT yet, but when i do go down that route i would rather pin a bigger amount LESS frequently. so undec would be a good option, you only have to pin every 10-14 weeks or so. but a bigger amount

Typically every 6 weeks here with the NHS (1000mg) and every 10 weeks in Oz

 

[2Thick]

I'm approx 50, had been off gear about 25 years, but maintained training, but recently just thriving and feeling great off 140mg/wk split up E3D with Test E (UGL).

I split dosage E3D because I am prone to gyno (family trait), this dosage and routine seems my sweet spot where I get max return and minimal estrogen affect and bloods look good (so far).

One problem is, I have to travel a bit for work soon (mostly 1.5-3 weeks at a time, approx 5 weeks inbetween trips), and so was wondering if Undecanoate might be a good idea, either just before the trip, or become my new regular routine?

Steady levels would be the aim again to the extent it can be (maybe take test E upon return, soon followed by another undecanoate (given U peak will be slow after my return home, and E might trail off and hit it's half life in the ball park of the U peak).

Is there any potential downside to undecanoate vs test e? Does a hybrid approach which tries to manage peaks and troughs seem best? Or just Test U 100mg E5D permanently (pending bloods and health looking good), and take my last dose the day I leave, and live with a small trough later in my trip?

You can certainly go down that route. The only thing is, I've heard from some people that there can be post-injection pain with it.

 

[Ulter]

I'm approx 50, had been off gear about 25 years, but maintained training, but recently just thriving and feeling great off 140mg/wk split up E3D with Test E (UGL).

I split dosage E3D because I am prone to gyno (family trait), this dosage and routine seems my sweet spot where I get max return and minimal estrogen affect and bloods look good (so far).

One problem is, I have to travel a bit for work soon (mostly 1.5-3 weeks at a time, approx 5 weeks inbetween trips), and so was wondering if Undecanoate might be a good idea, either just before the trip, or become my new regular routine?

Steady levels would be the aim again to the extent it can be (maybe take test E upon return, soon followed by another undecanoate (given U peak will be slow after my return home, and E might trail off and hit it's half life in the ball park of the U peak).

Is there any potential downside to undecanoate vs test e? Does a hybrid approach which tries to manage peaks and troughs seem best? Or just Test U 100mg E5D permanently (pending bloods and health looking good), and take my last dose the day I leave, and live with a small trough later in my trip?

Definitely an option to use the longer esters. A lot of people don't like the flexibility though.

 

[OldSchoolRyan]

Interesting situation. I've heard mixed things about switching to Undecanoate, especially with travel. Might be worth experimenting with the hybrid approach to see how your body reacts.

 

[Mobster]

You can certainly go down that route. The only thing is, I've heard from some people that there can be post-injection pain with it.

In the examples above the clinics are jabbing 3ml or more at a time so that could be an issue

 

[ceo]

I'm approx 50, had been off gear about 25 years, but maintained training, but recently just thriving and feeling great off 140mg/wk split up E3D with Test E (UGL).

I split dosage E3D because I am prone to gyno (family trait), this dosage and routine seems my sweet spot where I get max return and minimal estrogen affect and bloods look good (so far).

One problem is, I have to travel a bit for work soon (mostly 1.5-3 weeks at a time, approx 5 weeks inbetween trips), and so was wondering if Undecanoate might be a good idea, either just before the trip, or become my new regular routine?

Steady levels would be the aim again to the extent it can be (maybe take test E upon return, soon followed by another undecanoate (given U peak will be slow after my return home, and E might trail off and hit it's half life in the ball park of the U peak).

Is there any potential downside to undecanoate vs test e? Does a hybrid approach which tries to manage peaks and troughs seem best? Or just Test U 100mg E5D permanently (pending bloods and health looking good), and take my last dose the day I leave, and live with a small trough later in my trip?

Bros. It's not a bad idea. Or you can do cypionate and inject it every 2 weeks. Also sustanon you can get away with injecting every 3 weeks.

 

[ROIDDERS]

I'm approx 50, had been off gear about 25 years, but maintained training, but recently just thriving and feeling great off 140mg/wk split up E3D with Test E (UGL).

I split dosage E3D because I am prone to gyno (family trait), this dosage and routine seems my sweet spot where I get max return and minimal estrogen affect and bloods look good (so far).

One problem is, I have to travel a bit for work soon (mostly 1.5-3 weeks at a time, approx 5 weeks inbetween trips), and so was wondering if Undecanoate might be a good idea, either just before the trip, or become my new regular routine?

Steady levels would be the aim again to the extent it can be (maybe take test E upon return, soon followed by another undecanoate (given U peak will be slow after my return home, and E might trail off and hit it's half life in the ball park of the U peak).

Is there any potential downside to undecanoate vs test e? Does a hybrid approach which tries to manage peaks and troughs seem best? Or just Test U 100mg E5D permanently (pending bloods and health looking good), and take my last dose the day I leave, and live with a small trough later in my trip?

i would use test E the first 8 weeks alongside undecanoate. and then come off test E after that and stay with the U

 

[LevButlerov]

At this point it will never be about competing, or trying to crush some sports again. I am just trying to be in optimal shape: strong, learn, relatively free from injuries, living my best life, with bodyfat and bloods in a good place. Ideally progressing each year rather than declining!

I can't imagine I would ever really start a legit cycle heavy again, unless my joints were happy with me putting that kind of weight on again. But I'll go with the flow and see how my body is coping. Ideally I might start including things beyond lifting and cardio that help joints, balance and flexibility

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[CountryWA]

Hopefully can start my log up in the new year! Or more importantly maintain it frequently in the new year!

 

[2Thick]

In the examples above the clinics are jabbing 3ml or more at a time so that could be an issue

yeah i haven't tried it yet