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heyheyheybro22

heyheyheybro22

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So far ive ran a cycle if 500mgs of test w an ai (arimidex)
So this is my 2nd cycle
I ordered test e, tren e, and mast p
Test will be dosed at 200mgs, tren at 200, masteron aswell
Right now ive just gotten finished with bulking
height: 6ft
Weight:93.5kg
age: just turned 25
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Pic is with bad lighting ans no pump but i dont have any shirtless pump pics
 
Tren for a second cycle is not the best idea you dont have enough experience for running that kind of compound, that is for experienced users, that is a huge leap into the deep end of the pool. I like that your dosing is very reasonable, I would highly consider dropping the tren and replacing with decca, or just run test and mast.
 
Noah Wixx said:
Tren for a second cycle is not the best idea you dont have enough experience for running that kind of compound, that is for experienced users, that is a huge leap into the deep end of the pool. I like that your dosing is very reasonable, I would highly consider dropping the tren and replacing with decca, or just run test and mast.
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Agreed. Tren at 25 and a 2nd cycle? No.
 
Mobster said:
Agreed. Tren at 25 and a 2nd cycle? No.
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Absolutely not, I feel the excitement and putting the cart before the horse is what is happening at the moment, instead of taking a step back and really understanding and thinking about what he is doing, I think he might possibly be blinded by the allure of what others are doing or what he might be seeing in social media atm.
 
Mobster said:
I'd like to see you leaner. More so before the next cycle. I DO like the biceps peak
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Yea i will get leaner this cycle will be a cutting cycle thats why i ordered masteron and tren and im doing the test at a slightly above trt dose
 
Noah Wixx said:
Tren for a second cycle is not the best idea you dont have enough experience for running that kind of compound, that is for experienced users, that is a huge leap into the deep end of the pool. I like that your dosing is very reasonable, I would highly consider dropping the tren and replacing with decca, or just run test and mast.
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I was gonna do deca but i dont think thats a good option for a cutting cycle maybe my next bulking cycle ill consider 500 test w 300 deca and maybe dbol
 
heyheyheybro22 said:
I was gonna do deca but i dont think thats a good option for a cutting cycle maybe my next bulking cycle ill consider 500 test w 300 deca and maybe dbol
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Cutting would be more of a mast, primo, winny, anavar as far as compounds go, you could in theory even cut or recomp on npp if your diet is in check. Tren isn't good for cutting or good for cardio at all its gonna destroy your ability to preform cardio properly.
 
Noah Wixx said:
Cutting would be more of a mast, primo, winny, anavar as far as compounds go, you could in theory even cut or recomp on npp if your diet is in check. Tren isn't good for cutting or good for cardio at all its gonna destroy your ability to preform cardio properly.
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Yea i know but my endurance is already great like above average so if it bumps it down to average ill probably be fine
 
heyheyheybro22 said:
Its retarded cuz its my 2nd cycle and im using a hardcore compound
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just reread fhis and realised i answered the wrong question lol i emant its retarded cuz i still had alot of natty gains left in the tank and just hopped on gear
 
heyheyheybro22 said:
Yea i know but my endurance is already great like above average so if it bumps it down to average ill probably be fine
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No you won't and that is not how it works
 
heyheyheybro22 said:
just reread fhis and realised i answered the wrong question lol i emant its retarded cuz i still had alot of natty gains left in the tank and just hopped on gear
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Thats not the right way to do it brother i didn't start gear till I was in my 30s
 
RoidRage69 said:
Don't use Tren until you have a ton of muscle mass and you have peaked on other gear. Tren is for preserving muscle mass in extreme calorie deficit.
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Yea ik but i already ordered it tho
How abt 100mgs? ill get somewhat body recomp and low sides
 
heyheyheybro22 said:
Lots of other guys atrt gear in their 20s like me tho
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You aren't other guys and that doesn't mean that is the best ir correct decision, you are missing out on so many things, under 2 years of training and jumping on gear, you haven't built up a nautral base which if you did it would enhance cycles and produce better gains and transformations down the line.

Gear isn't a magic pill you are gonna super disappointed in the end after these two cycles I just have a feeling. Shutting down your hpta, no bloodwork no mention of ai or organ and liver support. Cycle on tren is also to long, you see my point ?

You have alot of holes in this and red flags that you aren't prepared for.

At the end of the day you run what you want and do what you want to do, guys like me and others who have experience being enhanced we will tell u the truth of the matter on things.
 
heyheyheybro22 said:
So far ive ran a cycle if 500mgs of test w an ai (arimidex)
So this is my 2nd cycle
I ordered test e, tren e, and mast p
Test will be dosed at 200mgs, tren at 200, masteron aswell
Right now ive just gotten finished with bulking
height: 6ft
Weight:93.5kg
age: just turned 25
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Pic is with bad lighting ans no pump but i dont have any shirtless pump pics
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heyheyheybro22 said:
Will start the tren test mast tmr
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heyheyheybro22 said:
Its retarded cuz its my 2nd cycle and im using a hardcore compound
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heyheyheybro22 said:
Yea i will get leaner this cycle will be a cutting cycle thats why i ordered masteron and tren and im doing the test at a slightly above trt dose
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heyheyheybro22 said:
Yea ik but i already ordered it tho
How abt 100mgs? ill get somewhat body recomp and low sides
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@heyheyheybro22 first I want to comment you, thank you for being honest and starting your log for the EVO family and welcome to our big EVO family bro :)
As you will see many guys have different views on steroid use.

While I dont think you should be using trenbolone, I dont see why you cant make your own life decisions at 25. So if thats the path you want to take, it's fair to support you and guide you.

Lets talk.

Cycle
Since you've done 500mgs testosterone before, this cycle you need to moderate a bit more.
250mgs testosterone (start 250-300 range) sports TRT+
100mgs trenbolone/week
100mgs masteron/week
split dose all compounds, mon/thur
this is first 3 weeks, we need your feedback every week to understand how you feeling on this dose

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?
do you have organ liver support n2guard? you have to have it on cycle

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

eBooks
download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

Podcast
are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

thank you and share more :)
 
I don't need to know how long you've been lifting just based on your picture
you have very raw physique meaning I can tell your muscles aren't matured at all
you really need to train at least 3 to 5 years and frankly I would train at least 6 years before you touch steroids
having said that it's your body and your choice and if you're gonna go through with the cycle know the risks and know the consequences
 
heyheyheybro22 said:
just reread fhis and realised i answered the wrong question lol i emant its retarded cuz i still had alot of natty gains left in the tank and just hopped on gear
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So max out the natty gains. Thank us later
 
Npcclassicphysique champ said:
@heyheyheybro22 first I want to comment you, thank you for being honest and starting your log for the EVO family and welcome to our big EVO family bro :)
As you will see many guys have different views on steroid use.

While I dont think you should be using trenbolone, I dont see why you cant make your own life decisions at 25. So if thats the path you want to take, it's fair to support you and guide you.

Lets talk.

Cycle
Since you've done 500mgs testosterone before, this cycle you need to moderate a bit more.
250mgs testosterone (start 250-300 range) sports TRT+
100mgs trenbolone/week
100mgs masteron/week
split dose all compounds, mon/thur
this is first 3 weeks, we need your feedback every week to understand how you feeling on this dose

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy. I will

supplements
what supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?
do you have organ liver support n2guard? you have to have it on cycle

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

eBooks
download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

Podcast
are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

thank you and share more :)
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For my diet, i was eating around 4k calories during my bulk and this cut im eating 2k-2.5k calories a day
Cardio- On bulk 30mins daily on cut 1-2 hours
For supps i use a multivitamin, fish oil, and im abt to buy some liver support pills
Pic of my face blurred idk why youd need it but idk how to blur so if u could teach me ill post one
for pics of traibing supps gear and meals ill try to take pics every now and then but not every single meal or training sesh and tje gear ill show when it arrives
 
if you want to go through with this it's your decision
I personally would wait till you build a stronger base
 
it is what it is you're going to go through with it
keep in mind if you have really good results you just cheated yourself out of building a base
 
during your steroid journey is not the time to dial in your diet
nor is it the time to figure out how to train properly
 
tell us about how much you're lifting
you have some good size arms but your chest still has a lot of room to get bigger
 
you need to dial in your training
your shoulders and arms look good but your neck and your chest are lagging
 
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Hey bros i just finished an arm day and took this pic with a pump, put a filter on but it just adds a bit more detail doesnt change my bodys size, would like to know what i could expect from the tren
 
I would start over with planning this cycle. Masteron makes no sense here. It is a cosmetic steroid for competitors. You have too much fat to notice any difference with mast. No shot running tren at your age and only a second cycle. You have a good base to work with so my advice would be to focus on cutting down first. Get those abs popping. Then look to run a cycle to add lean mass. Something like test and deca.
 
heyheyheybro22 said:
Squats - dont do them
Deadlift - 110kg 12 reps
Bench - 100kg 7 reps
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heyheyheybro22 said:
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Hey bros i just finished an arm day and took this pic with a pump, put a filter on but it just adds a bit more detail doesnt change my bodys size, would like to know what i could expect from the tren
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@heyheyheybro22 you're looking pretty good bro :) pumped

on the tren, make sure you dont go over 100mgs /week for now and we'll see

but your diet and training is key

you havent posted anything about diet updates and meal pics
same for detailed training
 
what to expect with tren? lots of sides.

using tren at this point is like giving an 18 year old keys to an electric sports car. you are going to have so much torque and speed that you will crash it and hurt yourself
 
Npcclassicphysique champ said:
@heyheyheybro22 you're looking pretty good bro :) pumped

on the tren, make sure you dont go over 100mgs /week for now and we'll see

but your diet and training is key

you havent posted anything about diet updates and meal pics
same for detailed training
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Well for my diet and training i dont do anything specific
Like for example
my arm day consists of usually 3 bicep excercises, 3 tricep, 3 forearm, and esch excercise changes everytime sometimes ill feel like doing preacher curls instead of like regular or something idk it all changes everytime
and the diet i try to eat as much clean food as possible w high protein
and yea ill start w 200 test 200 mast 100 tren
If i feel good i might up the tren to 200 after 6 weeks
 
heyheyheybro22 said:
Well for my diet and training i dont do anything specific
Like for example
my arm day consists of usually 3 bicep excercises, 3 tricep, 3 forearm, and esch excercise changes everytime sometimes ill feel like doing preacher curls instead of like regular or something idk it all changes everytime
and the diet i try to eat as much clean food as possible w high protein
and yea ill start w 200 test 200 mast 100 tren
If i feel good i might up the tren to 200 after 6 weeks
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Then what works and what doesn't?

You need structure.

Another reason for not using Tren
 
many of us have learned harsh lessons over the years when it comes to steroid use
 
Having a workout plan is one thing but executing it and being consistent is another
 
there are a lot of side effects with any steroid especially tren
 
you are definitely going to be needing n2guard if you do go through with this
 
my ex turned into a different person while on tren. mentally and physically
he would come home from the gym and rape me and hit me. if you were my son i would tell you don't do it
 
you will experience harsh sides on tren. very rough. its a smart idea to log exactly the sides you experience
 
heyheyheybro22 said:
So far ive ran a cycle if 500mgs of test w an ai (arimidex)
So this is my 2nd cycle
I ordered test e, tren e, and mast p
Test will be dosed at 200mgs, tren at 200, masteron aswell
Right now ive just gotten finished with bulking
height: 6ft
Weight:93.5kg
age: just turned 25
View attachment 57615
Pic is with bad lighting ans no pump but i dont have any shirtless pump pics
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@heyheyheybro22 stay on the grind bro!
 
BookerTNY said:
lay out your split for us
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Arnold split
zedhed said:
you will experience harsh sides on tren. very rough. its a smart idea to log exactly the sides you experience
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Yea i will, pinned 50mgs today, will start at 100 a week then up it to 200 at week 6 so far i feel nothing
 
You seriously need to get on n2guard or something strong for organ and liver protection, tren is no joke even at 200mg you have no idea how toxic it is and you are young so you are asking for problems by not protecting yourself.

Tren cough
Night sweats to the point you will soak through sheets and towels.
Constant paranoid feeling
Anxiety
Anger
Depression

All things that can happen and come along with tren as the cycle goes deeper in duration. I also would look at changing your split, you are very underdeveloped and I don't think you are putting enough intensity or reps into your current training program.

Also what drugs and protocol will be utilizing for a pct ?
 
heyheyheybro22 said:
Well for my diet and training i dont do anything specific
Like for example
my arm day consists of usually 3 bicep excercises, 3 tricep, 3 forearm, and esch excercise changes everytime sometimes ill feel like doing preacher curls instead of like regular or something idk it all changes everytime
and the diet i try to eat as much clean food as possible w high protein
and yea ill start w 200 test 200 mast 100 tren
If i feel good i might up the tren to 200 after 6 weeks
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@heyheyheybro22 you should have a proper diet and training plan.........
 
heyheyheybro22 said:
Well for my diet and training i dont do anything specific
Like for example
my arm day consists of usually 3 bicep excercises, 3 tricep, 3 forearm, and esch excercise changes everytime sometimes ill feel like doing preacher curls instead of like regular or something idk it all changes everytime
and the diet i try to eat as much clean food as possible w high protein
and yea ill start w 200 test 200 mast 100 tren
If i feel good i might up the tren to 200 after 6 weeks
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This is the point at which you will start seeing major side effects from the tren. I promise you will start feeling like shit after week 7.
 
Noah Wixx said:
You seriously need to get on n2guard or something strong for organ and liver protection, tren is no joke even at 200mg you have no idea how toxic it is and you are young so you are asking for problems by not protecting yourself.

Tren cough
Night sweats to the point you will soak through sheets and towels.
Constant paranoid feeling
Anxiety
Anger
Depression

All things that can happen and come along with tren as the cycle goes deeper in duration. I also would look at changing your split, you are very underdeveloped and I don't think you are putting enough intensity or reps into your current training program.

Also what drugs and protocol will be utilizing for a pct ?
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Nolvadex and clomid and hcg also n2gaurd idnt available where i live i got liver n kidney suppirt tho
 
heyheyheybro22 said:
Nolvadex and clomid and hcg also n2gaurd idnt available where i live i got liver n kidney suppirt tho
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What does are you gonna run of those compounds and for how long ?
 
Noah Wixx said:
What does are you gonna run of those compounds and for how long ?
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For the dose clomid start with 25mgs for 2 weeks then up it to 50mgs for 4 more
For nolva start with 10mgs for 2 weeks then 30 for 4
For the hcg cobstant 1.5kius weekly
 
LevButlerov said:
I think this is big Rami backed @heyheyheybro22
it's 200mgs/ml so only 1/2ml/week to start

you havent been posting your training, any updates?
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Dont own a tripod, but my split is arnold split 3 sets per excercise and 3 excercises per muscle group (except chest i do 5-6)
 
Keep it detailed so we can help great start
 
Good k job
 
heyheyheybro22 said:
Also where did u get that its big rami backed
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there are rumors big rami is behind some big labs in Egypt @heyheyheybro22

heyheyheybro22 said:
Dont own a tripod, but my split is arnold split 3 sets per excercise and 3 excercises per muscle group (except chest i do 5-6)
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you dont need a tripod , you can put in your log actual training reps sets and weights and exercises
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2nd-cycle-log.101565/
here in your log
 
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This tren is amazing im loving it my shoulders definintely look rounder than usual and my definition seems to have increased and the pumps are skin-splitting, this is my favorite compound so far i love it the only side effect so far is that it feels a tiny bit harder to sleep
 
heyheyheybro22 said:
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This tren is amazing im loving it my shoulders definintely look rounder than usual and my definition seems to have increased and the pumps are skin-splitting, this is my favorite compound so far i love it the only side effect so far is that it feels a tiny bit harder to sleep
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@heyheyheybro22 you look good but I do see some possible gyno, a side chest shot of the nipple please man share it
 
Eddie Haskell said:
@heyheyheybro22 you look good but I do see some possible gyno, a side chest shot of the nipple please man share it
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I do have some gyno, ive had it ever since i was a teenager i think i got it when i was 13 because i was obese and had alot of estrogen
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LevButlerov said:
please do @heyheyheybro22 waiting on your update :D
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Chest day
Bench press 3 sets (2 warmup first) 5 total
Chest press 3 sets
Pec flys 2 sets
Db press flat 2 sets
db press incline 3 sets
Incline bench press 2 sets
all sets were to failure and dropsets except warmup
 
heyheyheybro22 said:
I do have some gyno, ive had it ever since i was a teenager i think i got it when i was 13 because i was obese and had alot of estrogen View attachment 58743
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@heyheyheybro22 yes that looks like gynecomastia for sure
you should start 40mgs of tamoxifen every day (nolvadex)

heyheyheybro22 said:
Chest day
Bench press 3 sets (2 warmup first) 5 total
Chest press 3 sets
Pec flys 2 sets
Db press flat 2 sets
db press incline 3 sets
Incline bench press 2 sets
all sets were to failure and dropsets except warmup
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2-3 set is good but what weight? please share actual weights man :)
also hows your cardio? didnt see any
 
Eddie Haskell said:
@heyheyheybro22 yes that looks like gynecomastia for sure
you should start 40mgs of tamoxifen every day (nolvadex)


2-3 set is good but what weight? please share actual weights man :)
also hows your cardio? didnt see any
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Yea i will during my pct ill prolly try raloxifene aswell, for the weights i dont know the exact for each excercise but i do around 8-12 reps which is failure then dropset 6 more reps till failure again
Also for the cardio i take a 30 min walk outside after each gym sesh and a 10 min walk before i forgot to mention it
 
The leaner you get the less you will notice it
 
using steroids wont help your gynecomastia
be careful on this
 
do you feel any type of growth in their
if there's like a small piece sized lump that is definitely gyno
 
when you Flex really hard your chest
if you can still see that puffiness then that means yes it's gyno
 
over time you're going to have to get that treated
it's not going to get any better with steroids that I can guarantee you
 
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