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Approved Log NPP Anavar Shoulder recovery training log

Also taking Oidine, Tumuric , selesium from brazilian nuts. What i seem missing is only the 3 last ingredient in the right side red yeast rice etc
Iodine why? that might not be needed @yoluigi
and why take 30 supplements when you can get it all in 1 with n2guard smarter and supports EVO family
 
Iodine why? that might not be needed @yoluigi
and why take 30 supplements when you can get it all in 1 with n2guard smarter and supports EVO family
Oidine am hypothyroidism taking synthroide which help alot. I'l probably get it next cycle it's like almost 200$ canadian with shipping our economy is shit at the moment lol
 
Oidine am hypothyroidism taking synthroide which help alot. I'l probably get it next cycle it's like almost 200$ canadian with shipping our economy is shit at the moment lol
you have bloods for your hypothyroidsm? @yoluigi
 
ya been on it since am 19 (35 now) got sick in the army which fucked my thyroid etc. But now it's stable
please share blood work on the thyroid issue thank you :)
 
please share blood work on the thyroid issue thank you :)
Sorry late reply am waiting from a test from 9 days ago will upload when it's out
But in MAY felt like shit and had 20 in t4 (norm is 11-22) but my TSH was 18 instead of 0.35-3.5
Took some selesium and other stuff was healthy but still kinda "meh" and got in JULY TSH down to 9.9
and now waiting for the 1-2 weeks ago but i feel alot better than before. Stopped taking any kind of soy helped also.
Been taking for Years now

SYNTHROID 137MCG​

 
Was wandering if my ideal cycle for less Test Suppresion (recovery faster after cycle) for short (6weeks) cycle
Was thinking using
Npp start 1- 5 week 300
Anavar 6 weeks + proviron
Vs
6 Weeks anavar 20 mg
Week 2-6 20 Dianabol + proviron
what i've seen from this book https://archive.org/.../william.../page/201/mode/2up...
Anavar dont suppress much

"twelve weeks of 20 mg or 40 mg per day caused an approximate 45% reduction in serum testosterone levels. The group taking 80 mg noticed a 66% decrease in testosterone. Similar trends of decrease were noticed in LH production, with the 20 mg and 40 mg doses causing a 25-30% reduction, and the 80 mg group noticing a decline of more than 50%. "

and dianabol "15 mg per day to resistancetraining males for 8 weeks caused the mean plasma testosterone level to fall by 69%"

Compare to NPP

"Studies administering 100 mg_ injection of nandrolone phenylpropionate demonstrated a rapid suppression of serum testosterone following a single injection. Testosterone levels declined to approximately 30% of initial level by day 3 after drug administration, and stayed suppressed for approximately 13 days."
13 days make senses if it's 4 days the half-life.
I guess in the end you gonna end up suppress both but the chance to recovery probably harder from 19 nor anabolics?
 
Sorry late reply am waiting from a test from 9 days ago will upload when it's out
But in MAY felt like shit and had 20 in t4 (norm is 11-22) but my TSH was 18 instead of 0.35-3.5
Took some selesium and other stuff was healthy but still kinda "meh" and got in JULY TSH down to 9.9
and now waiting for the 1-2 weeks ago but i feel alot better than before. Stopped taking any kind of soy helped also.
Been taking for Years now

SYNTHROID 137MCG​

do you have the actual blood work? @yoluigi

Was wandering if my ideal cycle for less Test Suppresion (recovery faster after cycle) for short (6weeks) cycle
Was thinking using
Npp start 1- 5 week 300
Anavar 6 weeks + proviron
Vs
6 Weeks anavar 20 mg
Week 2-6 20 Dianabol + proviron
what i've seen from this book https://archive.org/.../william.../page/201/mode/2up...
Anavar dont suppress much

"twelve weeks of 20 mg or 40 mg per day caused an approximate 45% reduction in serum testosterone levels. The group taking 80 mg noticed a 66% decrease in testosterone. Similar trends of decrease were noticed in LH production, with the 20 mg and 40 mg doses causing a 25-30% reduction, and the 80 mg group noticing a decline of more than 50%. "

and dianabol "15 mg per day to resistancetraining males for 8 weeks caused the mean plasma testosterone level to fall by 69%"

Compare to NPP

"Studies administering 100 mg_ injection of nandrolone phenylpropionate demonstrated a rapid suppression of serum testosterone following a single injection. Testosterone levels declined to approximately 30% of initial level by day 3 after drug administration, and stayed suppressed for approximately 13 days."
13 days make senses if it's 4 days the half-life.
I guess in the end you gonna end up suppress both but the chance to recovery probably harder from 19 nor anabolics?
hard to understand are you basing this on bloods or a book?
 
do you have the actual blood work? @yoluigi


hard to understand are you basing this on bloods or a book?
Unfortunatly that's the only information they give us in Canada. It's on a APP and that's the only info they give us the rest only the Doc can see. (It's pain in the ass)
But should have a fellow up on it in a few days.


About the referance i meant in the book.
 
Unfortunatly that's the only information they give us in Canada. It's on a APP and that's the only info they give us the rest only the Doc can see. (It's pain in the ass)
But should have a fellow up on it in a few days.


About the referance i meant in the book.
To rephrase what i meant (sorry am french canadian)
Is NPP worth taking if it's a short cycle like 6 weeks. Instead of taking something that has a smaller half life. (orals)
you cant do private blood work in Canada ? @yoluigi
 
you cant do private blood work in Canada ? @yoluigi
Tried but gota go to a private doctor just for the bloodwork and it cost 500$+ just for the consultation and they might not even give it to you the paper for bloodwork for testosterone. I'l try to search other places but it's a pain in the ass. Our docs here gonna hand you anti depressent like candy but no bloodwork test on testosterone unless you dying.
 
Tried but gota go to a private doctor just for the bloodwork and it cost 500$+ just for the consultation and they might not even give it to you the paper for bloodwork for testosterone. I'l try to search other places but it's a pain in the ass. Our docs here gonna hand you anti depressent like candy but no bloodwork test on testosterone unless you dying.
@yoluigi seems crazy price for bloods but best check even if $500 as a bloods plan for cycling
 
On the NPP question - in a word - no.

I've explained this many times.

NPP (short ester version of Deca) only shows an uptick in collagen synthesis in lab studies. Not to any useful level in practise.

This is a combination of factors but mostly any uptick becomes negated by users still training the worn joint. At best you get pain relief on cycle which allows you to push harder and again negating recovery. You'll be back to square one when you come off.

The best approach is:
1) Actual rest, recovery and rehab
2) Changing exercises
3) Long terms use of joint products (inc bone broths and the like) and health oils

On 1: take time off. Just to reduce inflammation. Use ice and or heat. Get a massage gun or similar. Look at and set aside time to do rotator cuff work.
On 2: think about, as per what we see in other members logs, how much volume you see them doing. If, by way of example, you do flyes, bench, press, do lateral raises and pretty much all kinds of rows - ALL of that is around the shoulder. You'll see 5, 6 and even 8 exercises PER WORKOUT. All with 4-6 sets. And that'll be just a chest session. There is NOTHING to stop these members splitting those workouts into 2 sessions.
On 3: use a properly formulated product at an EFFECTIVE dose. Too many cheap ass products are NOT set at the right dose. Example Glucosomine needs to be 1500mg PER DAY and not, as I've seen 300-500mg a day
 
@yoluigi seems crazy price for bloods but best check even if $500 as a bloods plan for cycling
In the US, for othert members, use Stevesmi's discount link.

And when others bitch about blood tests costs look at what you're spending on some orders of PEDs (easily double or more)
 
Price on blood aint what cost alot is seeing the doc and telling him i want a full bloodtest the hard part. I'l search for a private one this week with just getting blood done.
With my problem is my rotator cuff is fine (IRM) I dont have any inflamation it's really just instability of the joint.(took 2-3 years off that's a shit load of time trust me) Soo the goal would just get more mass where my muscles has a hard time contracting. After 3-4 years i can finaly feel my bicep contracting now (took a long time labrum was pinching the bicep nerve)
Soo right now am at a point where i just need more muscles mass to make my work easier.

Thanks mobster for the tips. I never tried Glocosamine probably gonna buy some this week and try it out at a higher dose.
I got a shoulder day where i do 9-10 differant exercices and progressive overload it works. All rotator with lower trap and rear delt etc (mutliple rows variation)
 
Price on blood aint what cost alot is seeing the doc and telling him i want a full bloodtest the hard part. I'l search for a private one this week with just getting blood done.
With my problem is my rotator cuff is fine (IRM) I dont have any inflamation it's really just instability of the joint.(took 2-3 years off that's a shit load of time trust me) Soo the goal would just get more mass where my muscles has a hard time contracting. After 3-4 years i can finaly feel my bicep contracting now (took a long time labrum was pinching the bicep nerve)
Soo right now am at a point where i just need more muscles mass to make my work easier.

Thanks mobster for the tips. I never tried Glocosamine probably gonna buy some this week and try it out at a higher dose.
I got a shoulder day where i do 9-10 differant exercices and progressive overload it works. All rotator with lower trap and rear delt etc (mutliple rows variation)
Arguably only if you ARE recovering.

Plus show me a pro who does 9-10 exercises per workout (even if some are shoulder and some back etc). It is, at a minimum, 5-6 exercises too many. Esp while you're trying to recover. Like I mentioned above think about having 1/2 in one session and the other half in another.
 
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