Approved Log PCT and Peptides Log

[OwEv751]

Acknowledgement

Thanks for @Chowmanly and @CypherOCE for their inspiration to build this log. I'm just a newbie trying to do something new on this forum, and their log seriously help in building it. Please go check their log out for a far more in-depth log on PCT here:

@Chowmanly - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-pct-and-fertility-recovery-log.109286/
@CypherOCE - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tle-operation-baby-cypher-baby-bottle.105563/

Lastly, if you want to really learn more about PCT, and not from some newbie guy here, please check out:

https://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

Background
SE Asian, 40, M, 5' 6" (168cm), 172lb (78kg) - thanks generics lottery....

AAS

I first started my cycle back in Oct 2025. I didn't feel the need to overkill the cycle so I started of at a fairly mild cycle of 250mg test e, 200mg primo with anavar 10mg on training days.

In Jan 2026, I had to drop to TRT cruise dose (120mg) due to an injury and completely removed primo & anavar.

By the end of Feb 2026 I attempted to start up a second cycle with small titration of Test P and NPP (@Southern Cross Labs had a really good deal going that I couldn't refuse). Grudgingly though, I had to cut the cycle short as my missus got annoyed and wants me off the AAS for at least 6months before hopping back on again (YES I KNOW! TRUST ME - I just don't feel like arguing with her...). Of course you need to listen to the missus, so I dropped everything and initiate PCT protocol (Last pin as of Mar 24th).

Now you guys are probably thinking "well - you could have easily went to TRT and conceive" much like @CypherOCE did - and that's a perfectly acceptable approach (again....missus). However for me, firstly I don't have much of a choice, and secondly I don't think I've been on AAS long enough, or severe enough, that I would need to consider TRT approach due to severe HPTA shutdown - so this approach back to natural production should be relatively easier (I hope...). We're on the train now so no point turning back!

Training

I've been consistently training since 2019 to this day. I'm very proud of this journey as it was the turning point in my life where everything about training, nutrition, consistency finally clicked in. I dropped from 85kg to 67kg in a span of 3.5months and never really got obese ever again.

I love everything about powerlifting style training but never competed. I did a couple of blocks and manage to hit the 1000lb club as natty. Since then I embraced AAS to potentially push my body to the absolute limits while trying to maintain as much lean physique as possible.

Unfortunately though, I got injured back in Jan. An adductor got slightly torn near the bone from a really basic warmup protocol (so sad...). This was the main reason why I dropped to TRT dose as there was no point maintaining a low dose blast while the body is in recovery mode. I had to skip legs indefinitely until recently, but hey, at least my upper body strength went up!

Right now I'm currently doing 4day/week training consisting of push mechanics (Chest, Tris, Shoulder, Quads) and pull mechanics (Back, Bis, Hamstring, Adductor). Other than the obvious slow re-entry to leg day, I had to dial down the training to maintenance intensity to support PCT (Max RPE8 and 10-12 reps).

Cardio currently sucks. The only one is my 10k steps a day. I'm not going to be surprised if my prolactin/ spikes next week in my blood test. Trying to start running again 30min a day in the morning.

Objective of this log

The primarily objective of this log is really to document my PCT journey and get some feedback from you great forum members on something I might have missed and may improve.

Equally important though is that I wanted to show this journey to others in this community and inspire those who may be considering stepping back a bit from the AAS scene, either because they feel they made a mistake or they're just wanting more research material into PCT.

As a secondary objective, we are living in the age of peptides. I wanted to show how these peptides can provide the support to that PCT journey, injury recovery, and lifestyle improvement and give further confidence to those who wants to follow in my PCT footsteps in the use of peptides.

Current Protocol
- Week 1/2 - hCG 500IU EOD & hMG 75IU 3x / week <---I'm currently at the start of week2
- Week 3 - Small break (5 days) <---Blood drawn Monday this week
- Week 4/5 - Clomid 50mg/Nolva 40mg / day
- Week 6/7 - Clomid 25mg/Nolva 20mg / day
- Week 8 - blood drawn and MAYBE more clomid 12.5mg/nolva 10mg / day depending where we're at

Nutrition
I won't dive too deep into this one as I'll be in surplus. At bare minimum I'm aiming at 300C/190P/90F for 2680cals.
Definitely will have a good mix of:
- Two whole eggs per day
- Brazillian Nuts (2 per day)
- Preworkout Banana, WPI, Chobani flavoured Greek yoghurt
- Granola Bowl (Greek yoghurt, WPI, Granola, Strawberries, kiwi, honey)
- Overnight Oats every day (oats, WPI, Yoghurt, milk, blueberries)
- Peanut Butter on 85% low carb bread
- Ninja Creamy protein ice cream (milk, almond milk, WPI, pudding mix)
- Toasty Cheese with ham (any white bread, high protein cheese, smoked ham)
- Chicken/Broccoli/Long Beans/Rice
- Rice Cakes with Cottage Cheese and Smoked Salmon (with a dill of course!)
- Lebanese Meat Pizza (Lebanese bread, high protein cheese, pizza sauce, chicken breast pieces, dice lean beef, bbq sauce)
- Steamed Barramundi with soy/garlic sauce and steamed veg (carrot/cauliflower/broccoli)
- Burrito Rice Bowls (Red Kidney Beans, high protein cheese, Guac, Pico, Corn, Grilled Chicken breast with Taco Seasoning, Brown Rice)
- Almonds on hand
- WPI with Almond Milk on hand
- Carrots (with my own secret recipe 0 cal sweet & spicy salt mix),
- Apples, Strawberries and Kiwi on hand

Supplements
Coq10 150mg
Multivitamin
Creatine 20mg / day
Injectable L Carnitine 400mg / week
Vit E 1000iu
Selenium 150mcg
L-theanine 400mg
Magnesium glycinate 655mg
Melatonin 10mg
Berberine 750mg
Maca 3500mg
Fish Oil 3000mg
Silymarin 550mg
Bergamot 500mg
Ashwagandha
Caruso's Fertile Max (Fenugreek, Korean ginseng, Zinc)
Pre-Workout
Electrolytes
Water 3-4L/day

Medications
I have the following on standby:
- Arimidex / Aromasin
- Ezetimbe
- Empagloflozin
- Metformin
- Telmisartan
- Caber
- Ketotifen

Peptides

Sponsored by @Prymal
- Reta (1mg dose / week) (maintain good insulin sensitivity and GLP-1 benefits)
- DSIP (nightly) - sleep support on top of melatonin
- KLOW (daily) - perpetual recovery for adductor tear and general training recovery
- Semax (Pre-Workout motivator)

Other stack
- NAD+ (100mg weekly)
- Mots-C (1mg) (pre workout)
- SS31 (daily)
- HGH (2IU nightly)
- Selank (as needed - maybe everyday )

Thank you for giving your time to following this log! I hope that it can be of benefit to someone someday! I don't think I will have the time or energy to update the log everyday due to my autistic kid and team leader role on my desk job, but definitely can assure it'll be frequent!

P.S. Sorry for the poor quality photo shots. I do monthly cupping / needling / deep tissue massage and cupping marks are still there a couple of days later. I'll do a nice one later.

 

[bss]

Coq10 150mg
Multivitamin

Bro, I can see that a lot of thought went into this protocol, and I have been going through the exact same thing with my wife so I completely understand your situation.

I am glad to see that your are in the right path! Choosing to drop TRT is a big decision but can pay off if you can get it done quick.

I'm excited to watch this log and I wish you and your partner the very best.

When was you last bloods results? Its important to have a baseline to retest after 5/6 weeks post PCT.

 

[UnclePoon]

Following as well brother. I'm a heal practitioner - alot of thought has gone into this PCT. well done.

 

[OwEv751]

Following as well brother. I'm a heal practitioner - alot of thought has gone into this PCT. well done.

Thank you brother for your support!

 

[Southern Cross Labs]

Acknowledgement

Thanks for @Chowmanly and @CypherOCE for their inspiration to build this log. I'm just a newbie trying to do something new on this forum, and their log seriously help in building it. Please go check their log out for a far more in-depth log on PCT here:

@Chowmanly - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-pct-and-fertility-recovery-log.109286/
@CypherOCE - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tle-operation-baby-cypher-baby-bottle.105563/

Lastly, if you want to really learn more about PCT, and not from some newbie guy here, please check out:

https://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

Background
SE Asian, 40, M, 5' 6" (168cm), 172lb (78kg) - thanks generics lottery....

AAS

I first started my cycle back in Oct 2025. I didn't feel the need to overkill the cycle so I started of at a fairly mild cycle of 250mg test e, 200mg primo with anavar 10mg on training days.

In Jan 2026, I had to drop to TRT cruise dose (120mg) due to an injury and completely removed primo & anavar.

By the end of Feb 2026 I attempted to start up a second cycle with small titration of Test P and NPP (@Southern Cross Labs had a really good deal going that I couldn't refuse). Grudgingly though, I had to cut the cycle short as my missus got annoyed and wants me off the AAS for at least 6months before hopping back on again (YES I KNOW! TRUST ME - I just don't feel like arguing with her...). Of course you need to listen to the missus, so I dropped everything and initiate PCT protocol (Last pin as of Mar 24th).

Now you guys are probably thinking "well - you could have easily went to TRT and conceive" much like @CypherOCE did - and that's a perfectly acceptable approach (again....missus). However for me, firstly I don't have much of a choice, and secondly I don't think I've been on AAS long enough, or severe enough, that I would need to consider TRT approach due to severe HPTA shutdown - so this approach back to natural production should be relatively easier (I hope...). We're on the train now so no point turning back!

Training

I've been consistently training since 2019 to this day. I'm very proud of this journey as it was the turning point in my life where everything about training, nutrition, consistency finally clicked in. I dropped from 85kg to 67kg in a span of 3.5months and never really got obese ever again.

I love everything about powerlifting style training but never competed. I did a couple of blocks and manage to hit the 1000lb club as natty. Since then I embraced AAS to potentially push my body to the absolute limits while trying to maintain as much lean physique as possible.

Unfortunately though, I got injured back in Jan. An adductor got slightly torn near the bone from a really basic warmup protocol (so sad...). This was the main reason why I dropped to TRT dose as there was no point maintaining a low dose blast while the body is in recovery mode. I had to skip legs indefinitely until recently, but hey, at least my upper body strength went up!

Right now I'm currently doing 4day/week training consisting of push mechanics (Chest, Tris, Shoulder, Quads) and pull mechanics (Back, Bis, Hamstring, Adductor). Other than the obvious slow re-entry to leg day, I had to dial down the training to maintenance intensity to support PCT (Max RPE8 and 10-12 reps).

Cardio currently sucks. The only one is my 10k steps a day. I'm not going to be surprised if my prolactin/ spikes next week in my blood test. Trying to start running again 30min a day in the morning.

Objective of this log

The primarily objective of this log is really to document my PCT journey and get some feedback from you great forum members on something I might have missed and may improve.

Equally important though is that I wanted to show this journey to others in this community and inspire those who may be considering stepping back a bit from the AAS scene, either because they feel they made a mistake or they're just wanting more research material into PCT.

As a secondary objective, we are living in the age of peptides. I wanted to show how these peptides can provide the support to that PCT journey, injury recovery, and lifestyle improvement and give further confidence to those who wants to follow in my PCT footsteps in the use of peptides.

Current Protocol
- Week 1/2 - hCG 500IU EOD & hMG 75IU 3x / week <---I'm currently at the start of week2
- Week 3 - Small break (5 days) <---Blood drawn Monday this week
- Week 4/5 - Clomid 50mg/Nolva 40mg / day
- Week 6/7 - Clomid 25mg/Nolva 20mg / day
- Week 8 - blood drawn and MAYBE more clomid 12.5mg/nolva 10mg / day depending where we're at

Nutrition
I won't dive too deep into this one as I'll be in surplus. At bare minimum I'm aiming at 300C/190P/90F for 2680cals.
Definitely will have a good mix of:
- Two whole eggs per day
- Brazillian Nuts (2 per day)
- Preworkout Banana, WPI, Chobani flavoured Greek yoghurt
- Granola Bowl (Greek yoghurt, WPI, Granola, Strawberries, kiwi, honey)
- Overnight Oats every day (oats, WPI, Yoghurt, milk, blueberries)
- Peanut Butter on 85% low carb bread
- Ninja Creamy protein ice cream (milk, almond milk, WPI, pudding mix)
- Toasty Cheese with ham (any white bread, high protein cheese, smoked ham)
- Chicken/Broccoli/Long Beans/Rice
- Rice Cakes with Cottage Cheese and Smoked Salmon (with a dill of course!)
- Lebanese Meat Pizza (Lebanese bread, high protein cheese, pizza sauce, chicken breast pieces, dice lean beef, bbq sauce)
- Steamed Barramundi with soy/garlic sauce and steamed veg (carrot/cauliflower/broccoli)
- Burrito Rice Bowls (Red Kidney Beans, high protein cheese, Guac, Pico, Corn, Grilled Chicken breast with Taco Seasoning, Brown Rice)
- Almonds on hand
- WPI with Almond Milk on hand
- Carrots (with my own secret recipe 0 cal sweet & spicy salt mix),
- Apples, Strawberries and Kiwi on hand

Supplements
Coq10 150mg
Multivitamin
Creatine 20mg / day
Injectable L Carnitine 400mg / week
Vit E 1000iu
Selenium 150mcg
L-theanine 400mg
Magnesium glycinate 655mg
Melatonin 10mg
Berberine 750mg
Maca 3500mg
Fish Oil 3000mg
Silymarin 550mg
Bergamot 500mg
Ashwagandha
Caruso's Fertile Max (Fenugreek, Korean ginseng, Zinc)
Pre-Workout
Electrolytes
Water 3-4L/day

Medications
I have the following on standby:
- Arimidex / Aromasin
- Ezetimbe
- Empagloflozin
- Metformin
- Telmisartan
- Caber
- Ketotifen

Peptides

Sponsored by @Prymal
- Reta (1mg dose / week) (maintain good insulin sensitivity and GLP-1 benefits)
- DSIP (nightly) - sleep support on top of melatonin
- KLOW (daily) - perpetual recovery for adductor tear and general training recovery
- Semax (Pre-Workout motivator)

Other stack
- NAD+ (100mg weekly)
- Mots-C (1mg) (pre workout)
- SS31 (daily)
- HGH (2IU nightly)
- Selank (as needed - maybe everyday )

Thank you for giving your time to following this log! I hope that it can be of benefit to someone someday! I don't think I will have the time or energy to update the log everyday due to my autistic kid and team leader role on my desk job, but definitely can assure it'll be frequent!

P.S. Sorry for the poor quality photo shots. I do monthly cupping / needling / deep tissue massage and cupping marks are still there a couple of days later. I'll do a nice one later.

No way! This guy throwing up a log
What an awesome start so much detail, youve had some shit things happen to you with the injuries.

Diet and everything is great.

I'm ready to sponsor you when you're kicking off the first blast once the Mrs gives the greenlight

 

[OwEv751]

No way! This guy throwing up a log
What an awesome start so much detail, youve had some shit things happen to you with the injuries.

Diet and everything is great.

I'm ready to sponsor you when you're kicking off the first blast once the Mrs gives the greenlight

Brother! No joke, your oils are on point and was so keen to kick start my 2nd cycle with your gear all the way! But yea family comes first for all of us!

Thanks for the offer brother! I'll be banging on your door to let me in when the time comes

 

[OwEv751]

Training update:
Pull day with hamstrings tempo control 31X1.
Mood: 8/10 motivation was good. Didn't need for Semax today.
Post: 7/10 not burnt out. Satisfied

The romanian deadlift got a bit sketchy in the middle. I could feel the adductor slightly "pop" a bit on my 1st set so I had to lower the weight. Waiting for the KLOW to come through soon.

Hip adductor feels good with it's current weight. Could easily go higher but just wanting to chill for now.

 

[Southern Cross Labs]

Brother! No joke, your oils are on point and was so keen to kick start my 2nd cycle with your gear all the way! But yea family comes first for all of us!

Thanks for the offer brother! I'll be banging on your door to let me in when the time comes

%100 always family first , you have everything in order to have a good year man. Thank you for the kind words.

 

[OwEv751]

Sleep Log #1 2/4/26

Current sleep protocol:
-Melatonin 10mg
-Magnesium Glycinate
-GH 2IU

Good sleep overall. Only woke up twice.

This is a nice baseline to compare DSIP against the two powerhouses: Melatonin & GH. Since I haven't received DSIP yet I'm going to temporarily remove melatonin and GH now. Hoping I still get really good sleep without them for a couple of days....

 

[bss]

Sleep Log #1 2/4/26... Melatonin 10mg, Mag Glycinate, GH 2IU... removing melatonin and GH to compare baseline

Smart approach logging the sleep like this mate, having a proper baseline before adding DSIP will give you way better data to compare. Interested to see how you go without the melatonin and GH for a few nights

 

[LevButlerov]

Acknowledgement

Thanks for @Chowmanly and @CypherOCE for their inspiration to build this log. I'm just a newbie trying to do something new on this forum, and their log seriously help in building it. Please go check their log out for a far more in-depth log on PCT here:

@Chowmanly - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-pct-and-fertility-recovery-log.109286/
@CypherOCE - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tle-operation-baby-cypher-baby-bottle.105563/

Lastly, if you want to really learn more about PCT, and not from some newbie guy here, please check out:

https://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

Background
SE Asian, 40, M, 5' 6" (168cm), 172lb (78kg) - thanks generics lottery....

AAS

I first started my cycle back in Oct 2025. I didn't feel the need to overkill the cycle so I started of at a fairly mild cycle of 250mg test e, 200mg primo with anavar 10mg on training days.

In Jan 2026, I had to drop to TRT cruise dose (120mg) due to an injury and completely removed primo & anavar.

By the end of Feb 2026 I attempted to start up a second cycle with small titration of Test P and NPP (@Southern Cross Labs had a really good deal going that I couldn't refuse). Grudgingly though, I had to cut the cycle short as my missus got annoyed and wants me off the AAS for at least 6months before hopping back on again (YES I KNOW! TRUST ME - I just don't feel like arguing with her...). Of course you need to listen to the missus, so I dropped everything and initiate PCT protocol (Last pin as of Mar 24th).

Now you guys are probably thinking "well - you could have easily went to TRT and conceive" much like @CypherOCE did - and that's a perfectly acceptable approach (again....missus). However for me, firstly I don't have much of a choice, and secondly I don't think I've been on AAS long enough, or severe enough, that I would need to consider TRT approach due to severe HPTA shutdown - so this approach back to natural production should be relatively easier (I hope...). We're on the train now so no point turning back!

Training

I've been consistently training since 2019 to this day. I'm very proud of this journey as it was the turning point in my life where everything about training, nutrition, consistency finally clicked in. I dropped from 85kg to 67kg in a span of 3.5months and never really got obese ever again.

I love everything about powerlifting style training but never competed. I did a couple of blocks and manage to hit the 1000lb club as natty. Since then I embraced AAS to potentially push my body to the absolute limits while trying to maintain as much lean physique as possible.

Unfortunately though, I got injured back in Jan. An adductor got slightly torn near the bone from a really basic warmup protocol (so sad...). This was the main reason why I dropped to TRT dose as there was no point maintaining a low dose blast while the body is in recovery mode. I had to skip legs indefinitely until recently, but hey, at least my upper body strength went up!

Right now I'm currently doing 4day/week training consisting of push mechanics (Chest, Tris, Shoulder, Quads) and pull mechanics (Back, Bis, Hamstring, Adductor). Other than the obvious slow re-entry to leg day, I had to dial down the training to maintenance intensity to support PCT (Max RPE8 and 10-12 reps).

Cardio currently sucks. The only one is my 10k steps a day. I'm not going to be surprised if my prolactin/ spikes next week in my blood test. Trying to start running again 30min a day in the morning.

Objective of this log

The primarily objective of this log is really to document my PCT journey and get some feedback from you great forum members on something I might have missed and may improve.

Equally important though is that I wanted to show this journey to others in this community and inspire those who may be considering stepping back a bit from the AAS scene, either because they feel they made a mistake or they're just wanting more research material into PCT.

As a secondary objective, we are living in the age of peptides. I wanted to show how these peptides can provide the support to that PCT journey, injury recovery, and lifestyle improvement and give further confidence to those who wants to follow in my PCT footsteps in the use of peptides.

Current Protocol
- Week 1/2 - hCG 500IU EOD & hMG 75IU 3x / week <---I'm currently at the start of week2
- Week 3 - Small break (5 days) <---Blood drawn Monday this week
- Week 4/5 - Clomid 50mg/Nolva 40mg / day
- Week 6/7 - Clomid 25mg/Nolva 20mg / day
- Week 8 - blood drawn and MAYBE more clomid 12.5mg/nolva 10mg / day depending where we're at

Nutrition
I won't dive too deep into this one as I'll be in surplus. At bare minimum I'm aiming at 300C/190P/90F for 2680cals.
Definitely will have a good mix of:
- Two whole eggs per day
- Brazillian Nuts (2 per day)
- Preworkout Banana, WPI, Chobani flavoured Greek yoghurt
- Granola Bowl (Greek yoghurt, WPI, Granola, Strawberries, kiwi, honey)
- Overnight Oats every day (oats, WPI, Yoghurt, milk, blueberries)
- Peanut Butter on 85% low carb bread
- Ninja Creamy protein ice cream (milk, almond milk, WPI, pudding mix)
- Toasty Cheese with ham (any white bread, high protein cheese, smoked ham)
- Chicken/Broccoli/Long Beans/Rice
- Rice Cakes with Cottage Cheese and Smoked Salmon (with a dill of course!)
- Lebanese Meat Pizza (Lebanese bread, high protein cheese, pizza sauce, chicken breast pieces, dice lean beef, bbq sauce)
- Steamed Barramundi with soy/garlic sauce and steamed veg (carrot/cauliflower/broccoli)
- Burrito Rice Bowls (Red Kidney Beans, high protein cheese, Guac, Pico, Corn, Grilled Chicken breast with Taco Seasoning, Brown Rice)
- Almonds on hand
- WPI with Almond Milk on hand
- Carrots (with my own secret recipe 0 cal sweet & spicy salt mix),
- Apples, Strawberries and Kiwi on hand

Supplements
Coq10 150mg
Multivitamin
Creatine 20mg / day
Injectable L Carnitine 400mg / week
Vit E 1000iu
Selenium 150mcg
L-theanine 400mg
Magnesium glycinate 655mg
Melatonin 10mg
Berberine 750mg
Maca 3500mg
Fish Oil 3000mg
Silymarin 550mg
Bergamot 500mg
Ashwagandha
Caruso's Fertile Max (Fenugreek, Korean ginseng, Zinc)
Pre-Workout
Electrolytes
Water 3-4L/day

Medications
I have the following on standby:
- Arimidex / Aromasin
- Ezetimbe
- Empagloflozin
- Metformin
- Telmisartan
- Caber
- Ketotifen

Peptides

Sponsored by @Prymal
- Reta (1mg dose / week) (maintain good insulin sensitivity and GLP-1 benefits)
- DSIP (nightly) - sleep support on top of melatonin
- KLOW (daily) - perpetual recovery for adductor tear and general training recovery
- Semax (Pre-Workout motivator)

Other stack
- NAD+ (100mg weekly)
- Mots-C (1mg) (pre workout)
- SS31 (daily)
- HGH (2IU nightly)
- Selank (as needed - maybe everyday )

Thank you for giving your time to following this log! I hope that it can be of benefit to someone someday! I don't think I will have the time or energy to update the log everyday due to my autistic kid and team leader role on my desk job, but definitely can assure it'll be frequent!

P.S. Sorry for the poor quality photo shots. I do monthly cupping / needling / deep tissue massage and cupping marks are still there a couple of days later. I'll do a nice one later.

Training update:
Pull day with hamstrings tempo control 31X1.
Mood: 8/10 motivation was good. Didn't need for Semax today.
Post: 7/10 not burnt out. Satisfied

The romanian deadlift got a bit sketchy in the middle. I could feel the adductor slightly "pop" a bit on my 1st set so I had to lower the weight. Waiting for the KLOW to come through soon.

Hip adductor feels good with it's current weight. Could easily go higher but just wanting to chill for now.

Sleep Log #1 2/4/26

Current sleep protocol:
-Melatonin 10mg
-Magnesium Glycinate
-GH 2IU

Good sleep overall. Only woke up twice.

This is a nice baseline to compare DSIP against the two powerhouses: Melatonin & GH. Since I haven't received DSIP yet I'm going to temporarily remove melatonin and GH now. Hoping I still get really good sleep without them for a couple of days....

welcome fully to the EVO family now @OwEv751 you have been a member for some time and happy to see you share. You look really good, strong arms, nice chest and wide back impressive base.

do you have bloods going into this?

 

[OwEv751]

welcome fully to the EVO family now @OwEv751 you have been a member for some time and happy to see you share. You look really good, strong arms, nice chest and wide back impressive base.

do you have bloods going into this?

Thanks @LevButlerov for the warm welcome! I've got bloods booked next week on Tuesday (forgot about Easter Monday break!). Full panel with thyroid!

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks @LevButlerov for the warm welcome! I've got bloods booked next week on Tuesday (forgot about Easter Monday break!). Full panel with thyroid!

happy to have you in the EVO family @OwEv751 waiting on bloods

 

[Mobster]

SE Asian, 40, M, 5' 6" (168cm), 172lb (78kg) - thanks genetics lottery....

We all work with what we have

 

[stevesmi]

Acknowledgement

Thanks for @Chowmanly and @CypherOCE for their inspiration to build this log. I'm just a newbie trying to do something new on this forum, and their log seriously help in building it. Please go check their log out for a far more in-depth log on PCT here:

@Chowmanly - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-pct-and-fertility-recovery-log.109286/
@CypherOCE - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tle-operation-baby-cypher-baby-bottle.105563/

Lastly, if you want to really learn more about PCT, and not from some newbie guy here, please check out:

https://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

Background
SE Asian, 40, M, 5' 6" (168cm), 172lb (78kg) - thanks generics lottery....

AAS

I first started my cycle back in Oct 2025. I didn't feel the need to overkill the cycle so I started of at a fairly mild cycle of 250mg test e, 200mg primo with anavar 10mg on training days.

In Jan 2026, I had to drop to TRT cruise dose (120mg) due to an injury and completely removed primo & anavar.

By the end of Feb 2026 I attempted to start up a second cycle with small titration of Test P and NPP (@Southern Cross Labs had a really good deal going that I couldn't refuse). Grudgingly though, I had to cut the cycle short as my missus got annoyed and wants me off the AAS for at least 6months before hopping back on again (YES I KNOW! TRUST ME - I just don't feel like arguing with her...). Of course you need to listen to the missus, so I dropped everything and initiate PCT protocol (Last pin as of Mar 24th).

Now you guys are probably thinking "well - you could have easily went to TRT and conceive" much like @CypherOCE did - and that's a perfectly acceptable approach (again....missus). However for me, firstly I don't have much of a choice, and secondly I don't think I've been on AAS long enough, or severe enough, that I would need to consider TRT approach due to severe HPTA shutdown - so this approach back to natural production should be relatively easier (I hope...). We're on the train now so no point turning back!

Training

I've been consistently training since 2019 to this day. I'm very proud of this journey as it was the turning point in my life where everything about training, nutrition, consistency finally clicked in. I dropped from 85kg to 67kg in a span of 3.5months and never really got obese ever again.

I love everything about powerlifting style training but never competed. I did a couple of blocks and manage to hit the 1000lb club as natty. Since then I embraced AAS to potentially push my body to the absolute limits while trying to maintain as much lean physique as possible.

Unfortunately though, I got injured back in Jan. An adductor got slightly torn near the bone from a really basic warmup protocol (so sad...). This was the main reason why I dropped to TRT dose as there was no point maintaining a low dose blast while the body is in recovery mode. I had to skip legs indefinitely until recently, but hey, at least my upper body strength went up!

Right now I'm currently doing 4day/week training consisting of push mechanics (Chest, Tris, Shoulder, Quads) and pull mechanics (Back, Bis, Hamstring, Adductor). Other than the obvious slow re-entry to leg day, I had to dial down the training to maintenance intensity to support PCT (Max RPE8 and 10-12 reps).

Cardio currently sucks. The only one is my 10k steps a day. I'm not going to be surprised if my prolactin/ spikes next week in my blood test. Trying to start running again 30min a day in the morning.

Objective of this log

The primarily objective of this log is really to document my PCT journey and get some feedback from you great forum members on something I might have missed and may improve.

Equally important though is that I wanted to show this journey to others in this community and inspire those who may be considering stepping back a bit from the AAS scene, either because they feel they made a mistake or they're just wanting more research material into PCT.

As a secondary objective, we are living in the age of peptides. I wanted to show how these peptides can provide the support to that PCT journey, injury recovery, and lifestyle improvement and give further confidence to those who wants to follow in my PCT footsteps in the use of peptides.

Current Protocol
- Week 1/2 - hCG 500IU EOD & hMG 75IU 3x / week <---I'm currently at the start of week2
- Week 3 - Small break (5 days) <---Blood drawn Monday this week
- Week 4/5 - Clomid 50mg/Nolva 40mg / day
- Week 6/7 - Clomid 25mg/Nolva 20mg / day
- Week 8 - blood drawn and MAYBE more clomid 12.5mg/nolva 10mg / day depending where we're at

Nutrition
I won't dive too deep into this one as I'll be in surplus. At bare minimum I'm aiming at 300C/190P/90F for 2680cals.
Definitely will have a good mix of:
- Two whole eggs per day
- Brazillian Nuts (2 per day)
- Preworkout Banana, WPI, Chobani flavoured Greek yoghurt
- Granola Bowl (Greek yoghurt, WPI, Granola, Strawberries, kiwi, honey)
- Overnight Oats every day (oats, WPI, Yoghurt, milk, blueberries)
- Peanut Butter on 85% low carb bread
- Ninja Creamy protein ice cream (milk, almond milk, WPI, pudding mix)
- Toasty Cheese with ham (any white bread, high protein cheese, smoked ham)
- Chicken/Broccoli/Long Beans/Rice
- Rice Cakes with Cottage Cheese and Smoked Salmon (with a dill of course!)
- Lebanese Meat Pizza (Lebanese bread, high protein cheese, pizza sauce, chicken breast pieces, dice lean beef, bbq sauce)
- Steamed Barramundi with soy/garlic sauce and steamed veg (carrot/cauliflower/broccoli)
- Burrito Rice Bowls (Red Kidney Beans, high protein cheese, Guac, Pico, Corn, Grilled Chicken breast with Taco Seasoning, Brown Rice)
- Almonds on hand
- WPI with Almond Milk on hand
- Carrots (with my own secret recipe 0 cal sweet & spicy salt mix),
- Apples, Strawberries and Kiwi on hand

Supplements
Coq10 150mg
Multivitamin
Creatine 20mg / day
Injectable L Carnitine 400mg / week
Vit E 1000iu
Selenium 150mcg
L-theanine 400mg
Magnesium glycinate 655mg
Melatonin 10mg
Berberine 750mg
Maca 3500mg
Fish Oil 3000mg
Silymarin 550mg
Bergamot 500mg
Ashwagandha
Caruso's Fertile Max (Fenugreek, Korean ginseng, Zinc)
Pre-Workout
Electrolytes
Water 3-4L/day

Medications
I have the following on standby:
- Arimidex / Aromasin
- Ezetimbe
- Empagloflozin
- Metformin
- Telmisartan
- Caber
- Ketotifen

Peptides

Sponsored by @Prymal
- Reta (1mg dose / week) (maintain good insulin sensitivity and GLP-1 benefits)
- DSIP (nightly) - sleep support on top of melatonin
- KLOW (daily) - perpetual recovery for adductor tear and general training recovery
- Semax (Pre-Workout motivator)

Other stack
- NAD+ (100mg weekly)
- Mots-C (1mg) (pre workout)
- SS31 (daily)
- HGH (2IU nightly)
- Selank (as needed - maybe everyday )

Thank you for giving your time to following this log! I hope that it can be of benefit to someone someday! I don't think I will have the time or energy to update the log everyday due to my autistic kid and team leader role on my desk job, but definitely can assure it'll be frequent!

P.S. Sorry for the poor quality photo shots. I do monthly cupping / needling / deep tissue massage and cupping marks are still there a couple of days later. I'll do a nice one later.

@OwEv751 i like the peptide layout. seeing a lot of guys loading up on these. they really do work!

 

[Ulter]

Acknowledgement

Thanks for @Chowmanly and @CypherOCE for their inspiration to build this log. I'm just a newbie trying to do something new on this forum, and their log seriously help in building it. Please go check their log out for a far more in-depth log on PCT here:

@Chowmanly - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-pct-and-fertility-recovery-log.109286/
@CypherOCE - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tle-operation-baby-cypher-baby-bottle.105563/

Lastly, if you want to really learn more about PCT, and not from some newbie guy here, please check out:

https://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

Background
SE Asian, 40, M, 5' 6" (168cm), 172lb (78kg) - thanks generics lottery....

AAS

I first started my cycle back in Oct 2025. I didn't feel the need to overkill the cycle so I started of at a fairly mild cycle of 250mg test e, 200mg primo with anavar 10mg on training days.

In Jan 2026, I had to drop to TRT cruise dose (120mg) due to an injury and completely removed primo & anavar.

By the end of Feb 2026 I attempted to start up a second cycle with small titration of Test P and NPP (@Southern Cross Labs had a really good deal going that I couldn't refuse). Grudgingly though, I had to cut the cycle short as my missus got annoyed and wants me off the AAS for at least 6months before hopping back on again (YES I KNOW! TRUST ME - I just don't feel like arguing with her...). Of course you need to listen to the missus, so I dropped everything and initiate PCT protocol (Last pin as of Mar 24th).

Now you guys are probably thinking "well - you could have easily went to TRT and conceive" much like @CypherOCE did - and that's a perfectly acceptable approach (again....missus). However for me, firstly I don't have much of a choice, and secondly I don't think I've been on AAS long enough, or severe enough, that I would need to consider TRT approach due to severe HPTA shutdown - so this approach back to natural production should be relatively easier (I hope...). We're on the train now so no point turning back!

Training

I've been consistently training since 2019 to this day. I'm very proud of this journey as it was the turning point in my life where everything about training, nutrition, consistency finally clicked in. I dropped from 85kg to 67kg in a span of 3.5months and never really got obese ever again.

I love everything about powerlifting style training but never competed. I did a couple of blocks and manage to hit the 1000lb club as natty. Since then I embraced AAS to potentially push my body to the absolute limits while trying to maintain as much lean physique as possible.

Unfortunately though, I got injured back in Jan. An adductor got slightly torn near the bone from a really basic warmup protocol (so sad...). This was the main reason why I dropped to TRT dose as there was no point maintaining a low dose blast while the body is in recovery mode. I had to skip legs indefinitely until recently, but hey, at least my upper body strength went up!

Right now I'm currently doing 4day/week training consisting of push mechanics (Chest, Tris, Shoulder, Quads) and pull mechanics (Back, Bis, Hamstring, Adductor). Other than the obvious slow re-entry to leg day, I had to dial down the training to maintenance intensity to support PCT (Max RPE8 and 10-12 reps).

Cardio currently sucks. The only one is my 10k steps a day. I'm not going to be surprised if my prolactin/ spikes next week in my blood test. Trying to start running again 30min a day in the morning.

Objective of this log

The primarily objective of this log is really to document my PCT journey and get some feedback from you great forum members on something I might have missed and may improve.

Equally important though is that I wanted to show this journey to others in this community and inspire those who may be considering stepping back a bit from the AAS scene, either because they feel they made a mistake or they're just wanting more research material into PCT.

As a secondary objective, we are living in the age of peptides. I wanted to show how these peptides can provide the support to that PCT journey, injury recovery, and lifestyle improvement and give further confidence to those who wants to follow in my PCT footsteps in the use of peptides.

Current Protocol
- Week 1/2 - hCG 500IU EOD & hMG 75IU 3x / week <---I'm currently at the start of week2
- Week 3 - Small break (5 days) <---Blood drawn Monday this week
- Week 4/5 - Clomid 50mg/Nolva 40mg / day
- Week 6/7 - Clomid 25mg/Nolva 20mg / day
- Week 8 - blood drawn and MAYBE more clomid 12.5mg/nolva 10mg / day depending where we're at

Nutrition
I won't dive too deep into this one as I'll be in surplus. At bare minimum I'm aiming at 300C/190P/90F for 2680cals.
Definitely will have a good mix of:
- Two whole eggs per day
- Brazillian Nuts (2 per day)
- Preworkout Banana, WPI, Chobani flavoured Greek yoghurt
- Granola Bowl (Greek yoghurt, WPI, Granola, Strawberries, kiwi, honey)
- Overnight Oats every day (oats, WPI, Yoghurt, milk, blueberries)
- Peanut Butter on 85% low carb bread
- Ninja Creamy protein ice cream (milk, almond milk, WPI, pudding mix)
- Toasty Cheese with ham (any white bread, high protein cheese, smoked ham)
- Chicken/Broccoli/Long Beans/Rice
- Rice Cakes with Cottage Cheese and Smoked Salmon (with a dill of course!)
- Lebanese Meat Pizza (Lebanese bread, high protein cheese, pizza sauce, chicken breast pieces, dice lean beef, bbq sauce)
- Steamed Barramundi with soy/garlic sauce and steamed veg (carrot/cauliflower/broccoli)
- Burrito Rice Bowls (Red Kidney Beans, high protein cheese, Guac, Pico, Corn, Grilled Chicken breast with Taco Seasoning, Brown Rice)
- Almonds on hand
- WPI with Almond Milk on hand
- Carrots (with my own secret recipe 0 cal sweet & spicy salt mix),
- Apples, Strawberries and Kiwi on hand

Supplements
Coq10 150mg
Multivitamin
Creatine 20mg / day
Injectable L Carnitine 400mg / week
Vit E 1000iu
Selenium 150mcg
L-theanine 400mg
Magnesium glycinate 655mg
Melatonin 10mg
Berberine 750mg
Maca 3500mg
Fish Oil 3000mg
Silymarin 550mg
Bergamot 500mg
Ashwagandha
Caruso's Fertile Max (Fenugreek, Korean ginseng, Zinc)
Pre-Workout
Electrolytes
Water 3-4L/day

Medications
I have the following on standby:
- Arimidex / Aromasin
- Ezetimbe
- Empagloflozin
- Metformin
- Telmisartan
- Caber
- Ketotifen

Peptides

Sponsored by @Prymal
- Reta (1mg dose / week) (maintain good insulin sensitivity and GLP-1 benefits)
- DSIP (nightly) - sleep support on top of melatonin
- KLOW (daily) - perpetual recovery for adductor tear and general training recovery
- Semax (Pre-Workout motivator)

Other stack
- NAD+ (100mg weekly)
- Mots-C (1mg) (pre workout)
- SS31 (daily)
- HGH (2IU nightly)
- Selank (as needed - maybe everyday )

Thank you for giving your time to following this log! I hope that it can be of benefit to someone someday! I don't think I will have the time or energy to update the log everyday due to my autistic kid and team leader role on my desk job, but definitely can assure it'll be frequent!

P.S. Sorry for the poor quality photo shots. I do monthly cupping / needling / deep tissue massage and cupping marks are still there a couple of days later. I'll do a nice one later.

You look good, bro. I don't know why you're hard on yourself. Your genetics are perfectly fine. You already look better than 95% of people. @OwEv751

 

[2Thick]

Acknowledgement

Thanks for @Chowmanly and @CypherOCE for their inspiration to build this log. I'm just a newbie trying to do something new on this forum, and their log seriously help in building it. Please go check their log out for a far more in-depth log on PCT here:

@Chowmanly - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-pct-and-fertility-recovery-log.109286/
@CypherOCE - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tle-operation-baby-cypher-baby-bottle.105563/

Lastly, if you want to really learn more about PCT, and not from some newbie guy here, please check out:

https://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

Background
SE Asian, 40, M, 5' 6" (168cm), 172lb (78kg) - thanks generics lottery....

AAS

I first started my cycle back in Oct 2025. I didn't feel the need to overkill the cycle so I started of at a fairly mild cycle of 250mg test e, 200mg primo with anavar 10mg on training days.

In Jan 2026, I had to drop to TRT cruise dose (120mg) due to an injury and completely removed primo & anavar.

By the end of Feb 2026 I attempted to start up a second cycle with small titration of Test P and NPP (@Southern Cross Labs had a really good deal going that I couldn't refuse). Grudgingly though, I had to cut the cycle short as my missus got annoyed and wants me off the AAS for at least 6months before hopping back on again (YES I KNOW! TRUST ME - I just don't feel like arguing with her...). Of course you need to listen to the missus, so I dropped everything and initiate PCT protocol (Last pin as of Mar 24th).

Now you guys are probably thinking "well - you could have easily went to TRT and conceive" much like @CypherOCE did - and that's a perfectly acceptable approach (again....missus). However for me, firstly I don't have much of a choice, and secondly I don't think I've been on AAS long enough, or severe enough, that I would need to consider TRT approach due to severe HPTA shutdown - so this approach back to natural production should be relatively easier (I hope...). We're on the train now so no point turning back!

Training

I've been consistently training since 2019 to this day. I'm very proud of this journey as it was the turning point in my life where everything about training, nutrition, consistency finally clicked in. I dropped from 85kg to 67kg in a span of 3.5months and never really got obese ever again.

I love everything about powerlifting style training but never competed. I did a couple of blocks and manage to hit the 1000lb club as natty. Since then I embraced AAS to potentially push my body to the absolute limits while trying to maintain as much lean physique as possible.

Unfortunately though, I got injured back in Jan. An adductor got slightly torn near the bone from a really basic warmup protocol (so sad...). This was the main reason why I dropped to TRT dose as there was no point maintaining a low dose blast while the body is in recovery mode. I had to skip legs indefinitely until recently, but hey, at least my upper body strength went up!

Right now I'm currently doing 4day/week training consisting of push mechanics (Chest, Tris, Shoulder, Quads) and pull mechanics (Back, Bis, Hamstring, Adductor). Other than the obvious slow re-entry to leg day, I had to dial down the training to maintenance intensity to support PCT (Max RPE8 and 10-12 reps).

Cardio currently sucks. The only one is my 10k steps a day. I'm not going to be surprised if my prolactin/ spikes next week in my blood test. Trying to start running again 30min a day in the morning.

Objective of this log

The primarily objective of this log is really to document my PCT journey and get some feedback from you great forum members on something I might have missed and may improve.

Equally important though is that I wanted to show this journey to others in this community and inspire those who may be considering stepping back a bit from the AAS scene, either because they feel they made a mistake or they're just wanting more research material into PCT.

As a secondary objective, we are living in the age of peptides. I wanted to show how these peptides can provide the support to that PCT journey, injury recovery, and lifestyle improvement and give further confidence to those who wants to follow in my PCT footsteps in the use of peptides.

Current Protocol
- Week 1/2 - hCG 500IU EOD & hMG 75IU 3x / week <---I'm currently at the start of week2
- Week 3 - Small break (5 days) <---Blood drawn Monday this week
- Week 4/5 - Clomid 50mg/Nolva 40mg / day
- Week 6/7 - Clomid 25mg/Nolva 20mg / day
- Week 8 - blood drawn and MAYBE more clomid 12.5mg/nolva 10mg / day depending where we're at

Nutrition
I won't dive too deep into this one as I'll be in surplus. At bare minimum I'm aiming at 300C/190P/90F for 2680cals.
Definitely will have a good mix of:
- Two whole eggs per day
- Brazillian Nuts (2 per day)
- Preworkout Banana, WPI, Chobani flavoured Greek yoghurt
- Granola Bowl (Greek yoghurt, WPI, Granola, Strawberries, kiwi, honey)
- Overnight Oats every day (oats, WPI, Yoghurt, milk, blueberries)
- Peanut Butter on 85% low carb bread
- Ninja Creamy protein ice cream (milk, almond milk, WPI, pudding mix)
- Toasty Cheese with ham (any white bread, high protein cheese, smoked ham)
- Chicken/Broccoli/Long Beans/Rice
- Rice Cakes with Cottage Cheese and Smoked Salmon (with a dill of course!)
- Lebanese Meat Pizza (Lebanese bread, high protein cheese, pizza sauce, chicken breast pieces, dice lean beef, bbq sauce)
- Steamed Barramundi with soy/garlic sauce and steamed veg (carrot/cauliflower/broccoli)
- Burrito Rice Bowls (Red Kidney Beans, high protein cheese, Guac, Pico, Corn, Grilled Chicken breast with Taco Seasoning, Brown Rice)
- Almonds on hand
- WPI with Almond Milk on hand
- Carrots (with my own secret recipe 0 cal sweet & spicy salt mix),
- Apples, Strawberries and Kiwi on hand

Supplements
Coq10 150mg
Multivitamin
Creatine 20mg / day
Injectable L Carnitine 400mg / week
Vit E 1000iu
Selenium 150mcg
L-theanine 400mg
Magnesium glycinate 655mg
Melatonin 10mg
Berberine 750mg
Maca 3500mg
Fish Oil 3000mg
Silymarin 550mg
Bergamot 500mg
Ashwagandha
Caruso's Fertile Max (Fenugreek, Korean ginseng, Zinc)
Pre-Workout
Electrolytes
Water 3-4L/day

Medications
I have the following on standby:
- Arimidex / Aromasin
- Ezetimbe
- Empagloflozin
- Metformin
- Telmisartan
- Caber
- Ketotifen

Peptides

Sponsored by @Prymal
- Reta (1mg dose / week) (maintain good insulin sensitivity and GLP-1 benefits)
- DSIP (nightly) - sleep support on top of melatonin
- KLOW (daily) - perpetual recovery for adductor tear and general training recovery
- Semax (Pre-Workout motivator)

Other stack
- NAD+ (100mg weekly)
- Mots-C (1mg) (pre workout)
- SS31 (daily)
- HGH (2IU nightly)
- Selank (as needed - maybe everyday )

Thank you for giving your time to following this log! I hope that it can be of benefit to someone someday! I don't think I will have the time or energy to update the log everyday due to my autistic kid and team leader role on my desk job, but definitely can assure it'll be frequent!

P.S. Sorry for the poor quality photo shots. I do monthly cupping / needling / deep tissue massage and cupping marks are still there a couple of days later. I'll do a nice one later.

Welcome to the logging world. I'm glad that you started this. @OwEv751 the EVO Family is here to help you. I like that you keep your medications on point. Taking care of your body and especially your heart health is important.

 

[ceo]

Acknowledgement

Thanks for @Chowmanly and @CypherOCE for their inspiration to build this log. I'm just a newbie trying to do something new on this forum, and their log seriously help in building it. Please go check their log out for a far more in-depth log on PCT here:

@Chowmanly - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-pct-and-fertility-recovery-log.109286/
@CypherOCE - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tle-operation-baby-cypher-baby-bottle.105563/

Lastly, if you want to really learn more about PCT, and not from some newbie guy here, please check out:

https://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

Background
SE Asian, 40, M, 5' 6" (168cm), 172lb (78kg) - thanks generics lottery....

AAS

I first started my cycle back in Oct 2025. I didn't feel the need to overkill the cycle so I started of at a fairly mild cycle of 250mg test e, 200mg primo with anavar 10mg on training days.

In Jan 2026, I had to drop to TRT cruise dose (120mg) due to an injury and completely removed primo & anavar.

By the end of Feb 2026 I attempted to start up a second cycle with small titration of Test P and NPP (@Southern Cross Labs had a really good deal going that I couldn't refuse). Grudgingly though, I had to cut the cycle short as my missus got annoyed and wants me off the AAS for at least 6months before hopping back on again (YES I KNOW! TRUST ME - I just don't feel like arguing with her...). Of course you need to listen to the missus, so I dropped everything and initiate PCT protocol (Last pin as of Mar 24th).

Now you guys are probably thinking "well - you could have easily went to TRT and conceive" much like @CypherOCE did - and that's a perfectly acceptable approach (again....missus). However for me, firstly I don't have much of a choice, and secondly I don't think I've been on AAS long enough, or severe enough, that I would need to consider TRT approach due to severe HPTA shutdown - so this approach back to natural production should be relatively easier (I hope...). We're on the train now so no point turning back!

Training

I've been consistently training since 2019 to this day. I'm very proud of this journey as it was the turning point in my life where everything about training, nutrition, consistency finally clicked in. I dropped from 85kg to 67kg in a span of 3.5months and never really got obese ever again.

I love everything about powerlifting style training but never competed. I did a couple of blocks and manage to hit the 1000lb club as natty. Since then I embraced AAS to potentially push my body to the absolute limits while trying to maintain as much lean physique as possible.

Unfortunately though, I got injured back in Jan. An adductor got slightly torn near the bone from a really basic warmup protocol (so sad...). This was the main reason why I dropped to TRT dose as there was no point maintaining a low dose blast while the body is in recovery mode. I had to skip legs indefinitely until recently, but hey, at least my upper body strength went up!

Right now I'm currently doing 4day/week training consisting of push mechanics (Chest, Tris, Shoulder, Quads) and pull mechanics (Back, Bis, Hamstring, Adductor). Other than the obvious slow re-entry to leg day, I had to dial down the training to maintenance intensity to support PCT (Max RPE8 and 10-12 reps).

Cardio currently sucks. The only one is my 10k steps a day. I'm not going to be surprised if my prolactin/ spikes next week in my blood test. Trying to start running again 30min a day in the morning.

Objective of this log

The primarily objective of this log is really to document my PCT journey and get some feedback from you great forum members on something I might have missed and may improve.

Equally important though is that I wanted to show this journey to others in this community and inspire those who may be considering stepping back a bit from the AAS scene, either because they feel they made a mistake or they're just wanting more research material into PCT.

As a secondary objective, we are living in the age of peptides. I wanted to show how these peptides can provide the support to that PCT journey, injury recovery, and lifestyle improvement and give further confidence to those who wants to follow in my PCT footsteps in the use of peptides.

Current Protocol
- Week 1/2 - hCG 500IU EOD & hMG 75IU 3x / week <---I'm currently at the start of week2
- Week 3 - Small break (5 days) <---Blood drawn Monday this week
- Week 4/5 - Clomid 50mg/Nolva 40mg / day
- Week 6/7 - Clomid 25mg/Nolva 20mg / day
- Week 8 - blood drawn and MAYBE more clomid 12.5mg/nolva 10mg / day depending where we're at

Nutrition
I won't dive too deep into this one as I'll be in surplus. At bare minimum I'm aiming at 300C/190P/90F for 2680cals.
Definitely will have a good mix of:
- Two whole eggs per day
- Brazillian Nuts (2 per day)
- Preworkout Banana, WPI, Chobani flavoured Greek yoghurt
- Granola Bowl (Greek yoghurt, WPI, Granola, Strawberries, kiwi, honey)
- Overnight Oats every day (oats, WPI, Yoghurt, milk, blueberries)
- Peanut Butter on 85% low carb bread
- Ninja Creamy protein ice cream (milk, almond milk, WPI, pudding mix)
- Toasty Cheese with ham (any white bread, high protein cheese, smoked ham)
- Chicken/Broccoli/Long Beans/Rice
- Rice Cakes with Cottage Cheese and Smoked Salmon (with a dill of course!)
- Lebanese Meat Pizza (Lebanese bread, high protein cheese, pizza sauce, chicken breast pieces, dice lean beef, bbq sauce)
- Steamed Barramundi with soy/garlic sauce and steamed veg (carrot/cauliflower/broccoli)
- Burrito Rice Bowls (Red Kidney Beans, high protein cheese, Guac, Pico, Corn, Grilled Chicken breast with Taco Seasoning, Brown Rice)
- Almonds on hand
- WPI with Almond Milk on hand
- Carrots (with my own secret recipe 0 cal sweet & spicy salt mix),
- Apples, Strawberries and Kiwi on hand

Supplements
Coq10 150mg
Multivitamin
Creatine 20mg / day
Injectable L Carnitine 400mg / week
Vit E 1000iu
Selenium 150mcg
L-theanine 400mg
Magnesium glycinate 655mg
Melatonin 10mg
Berberine 750mg
Maca 3500mg
Fish Oil 3000mg
Silymarin 550mg
Bergamot 500mg
Ashwagandha
Caruso's Fertile Max (Fenugreek, Korean ginseng, Zinc)
Pre-Workout
Electrolytes
Water 3-4L/day

Medications
I have the following on standby:
- Arimidex / Aromasin
- Ezetimbe
- Empagloflozin
- Metformin
- Telmisartan
- Caber
- Ketotifen

Peptides

Sponsored by @Prymal
- Reta (1mg dose / week) (maintain good insulin sensitivity and GLP-1 benefits)
- DSIP (nightly) - sleep support on top of melatonin
- KLOW (daily) - perpetual recovery for adductor tear and general training recovery
- Semax (Pre-Workout motivator)

Other stack
- NAD+ (100mg weekly)
- Mots-C (1mg) (pre workout)
- SS31 (daily)
- HGH (2IU nightly)
- Selank (as needed - maybe everyday )

Thank you for giving your time to following this log! I hope that it can be of benefit to someone someday! I don't think I will have the time or energy to update the log everyday due to my autistic kid and team leader role on my desk job, but definitely can assure it'll be frequent!

P.S. Sorry for the poor quality photo shots. I do monthly cupping / needling / deep tissue massage and cupping marks are still there a couple of days later. I'll do a nice one later.

@OwEv751 bros seen a lot of dudes using SS31, mots-C and NAD+. and selank seeing more and more too. and semax too those are good ones

 

[ROIDDERS]

Acknowledgement

Thanks for @Chowmanly and @CypherOCE for their inspiration to build this log. I'm just a newbie trying to do something new on this forum, and their log seriously help in building it. Please go check their log out for a far more in-depth log on PCT here:

@Chowmanly - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-pct-and-fertility-recovery-log.109286/
@CypherOCE - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tle-operation-baby-cypher-baby-bottle.105563/

Lastly, if you want to really learn more about PCT, and not from some newbie guy here, please check out:

https://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

Background
SE Asian, 40, M, 5' 6" (168cm), 172lb (78kg) - thanks generics lottery....

AAS

I first started my cycle back in Oct 2025. I didn't feel the need to overkill the cycle so I started of at a fairly mild cycle of 250mg test e, 200mg primo with anavar 10mg on training days.

In Jan 2026, I had to drop to TRT cruise dose (120mg) due to an injury and completely removed primo & anavar.

By the end of Feb 2026 I attempted to start up a second cycle with small titration of Test P and NPP (@Southern Cross Labs had a really good deal going that I couldn't refuse). Grudgingly though, I had to cut the cycle short as my missus got annoyed and wants me off the AAS for at least 6months before hopping back on again (YES I KNOW! TRUST ME - I just don't feel like arguing with her...). Of course you need to listen to the missus, so I dropped everything and initiate PCT protocol (Last pin as of Mar 24th).

Now you guys are probably thinking "well - you could have easily went to TRT and conceive" much like @CypherOCE did - and that's a perfectly acceptable approach (again....missus). However for me, firstly I don't have much of a choice, and secondly I don't think I've been on AAS long enough, or severe enough, that I would need to consider TRT approach due to severe HPTA shutdown - so this approach back to natural production should be relatively easier (I hope...). We're on the train now so no point turning back!

Training

I've been consistently training since 2019 to this day. I'm very proud of this journey as it was the turning point in my life where everything about training, nutrition, consistency finally clicked in. I dropped from 85kg to 67kg in a span of 3.5months and never really got obese ever again.

I love everything about powerlifting style training but never competed. I did a couple of blocks and manage to hit the 1000lb club as natty. Since then I embraced AAS to potentially push my body to the absolute limits while trying to maintain as much lean physique as possible.

Unfortunately though, I got injured back in Jan. An adductor got slightly torn near the bone from a really basic warmup protocol (so sad...). This was the main reason why I dropped to TRT dose as there was no point maintaining a low dose blast while the body is in recovery mode. I had to skip legs indefinitely until recently, but hey, at least my upper body strength went up!

Right now I'm currently doing 4day/week training consisting of push mechanics (Chest, Tris, Shoulder, Quads) and pull mechanics (Back, Bis, Hamstring, Adductor). Other than the obvious slow re-entry to leg day, I had to dial down the training to maintenance intensity to support PCT (Max RPE8 and 10-12 reps).

Cardio currently sucks. The only one is my 10k steps a day. I'm not going to be surprised if my prolactin/ spikes next week in my blood test. Trying to start running again 30min a day in the morning.

Objective of this log

The primarily objective of this log is really to document my PCT journey and get some feedback from you great forum members on something I might have missed and may improve.

Equally important though is that I wanted to show this journey to others in this community and inspire those who may be considering stepping back a bit from the AAS scene, either because they feel they made a mistake or they're just wanting more research material into PCT.

As a secondary objective, we are living in the age of peptides. I wanted to show how these peptides can provide the support to that PCT journey, injury recovery, and lifestyle improvement and give further confidence to those who wants to follow in my PCT footsteps in the use of peptides.

Current Protocol
- Week 1/2 - hCG 500IU EOD & hMG 75IU 3x / week <---I'm currently at the start of week2
- Week 3 - Small break (5 days) <---Blood drawn Monday this week
- Week 4/5 - Clomid 50mg/Nolva 40mg / day
- Week 6/7 - Clomid 25mg/Nolva 20mg / day
- Week 8 - blood drawn and MAYBE more clomid 12.5mg/nolva 10mg / day depending where we're at

Nutrition
I won't dive too deep into this one as I'll be in surplus. At bare minimum I'm aiming at 300C/190P/90F for 2680cals.
Definitely will have a good mix of:
- Two whole eggs per day
- Brazillian Nuts (2 per day)
- Preworkout Banana, WPI, Chobani flavoured Greek yoghurt
- Granola Bowl (Greek yoghurt, WPI, Granola, Strawberries, kiwi, honey)
- Overnight Oats every day (oats, WPI, Yoghurt, milk, blueberries)
- Peanut Butter on 85% low carb bread
- Ninja Creamy protein ice cream (milk, almond milk, WPI, pudding mix)
- Toasty Cheese with ham (any white bread, high protein cheese, smoked ham)
- Chicken/Broccoli/Long Beans/Rice
- Rice Cakes with Cottage Cheese and Smoked Salmon (with a dill of course!)
- Lebanese Meat Pizza (Lebanese bread, high protein cheese, pizza sauce, chicken breast pieces, dice lean beef, bbq sauce)
- Steamed Barramundi with soy/garlic sauce and steamed veg (carrot/cauliflower/broccoli)
- Burrito Rice Bowls (Red Kidney Beans, high protein cheese, Guac, Pico, Corn, Grilled Chicken breast with Taco Seasoning, Brown Rice)
- Almonds on hand
- WPI with Almond Milk on hand
- Carrots (with my own secret recipe 0 cal sweet & spicy salt mix),
- Apples, Strawberries and Kiwi on hand

Supplements
Coq10 150mg
Multivitamin
Creatine 20mg / day
Injectable L Carnitine 400mg / week
Vit E 1000iu
Selenium 150mcg
L-theanine 400mg
Magnesium glycinate 655mg
Melatonin 10mg
Berberine 750mg
Maca 3500mg
Fish Oil 3000mg
Silymarin 550mg
Bergamot 500mg
Ashwagandha
Caruso's Fertile Max (Fenugreek, Korean ginseng, Zinc)
Pre-Workout
Electrolytes
Water 3-4L/day

Medications
I have the following on standby:
- Arimidex / Aromasin
- Ezetimbe
- Empagloflozin
- Metformin
- Telmisartan
- Caber
- Ketotifen

Peptides

Sponsored by @Prymal
- Reta (1mg dose / week) (maintain good insulin sensitivity and GLP-1 benefits)
- DSIP (nightly) - sleep support on top of melatonin
- KLOW (daily) - perpetual recovery for adductor tear and general training recovery
- Semax (Pre-Workout motivator)

Other stack
- NAD+ (100mg weekly)
- Mots-C (1mg) (pre workout)
- SS31 (daily)
- HGH (2IU nightly)
- Selank (as needed - maybe everyday )

Thank you for giving your time to following this log! I hope that it can be of benefit to someone someday! I don't think I will have the time or energy to update the log everyday due to my autistic kid and team leader role on my desk job, but definitely can assure it'll be frequent!

P.S. Sorry for the poor quality photo shots. I do monthly cupping / needling / deep tissue massage and cupping marks are still there a couple of days later. I'll do a nice one later.

Wow what a thorough layout of what you're taking! Absolutely incredible job on these peptides and the medications that you're using as well and I love how you include electrolytes along with your water. Three to four liters is good. @OwEv751

 

[ballin2504]

Acknowledgement

Thanks for @Chowmanly and @CypherOCE for their inspiration to build this log. I'm just a newbie trying to do something new on this forum, and their log seriously help in building it. Please go check their log out for a far more in-depth log on PCT here:

@Chowmanly - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-pct-and-fertility-recovery-log.109286/
@CypherOCE - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tle-operation-baby-cypher-baby-bottle.105563/

Lastly, if you want to really learn more about PCT, and not from some newbie guy here, please check out:

https://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

Background
SE Asian, 40, M, 5' 6" (168cm), 172lb (78kg) - thanks generics lottery....

AAS

I first started my cycle back in Oct 2025. I didn't feel the need to overkill the cycle so I started of at a fairly mild cycle of 250mg test e, 200mg primo with anavar 10mg on training days.

In Jan 2026, I had to drop to TRT cruise dose (120mg) due to an injury and completely removed primo & anavar.

By the end of Feb 2026 I attempted to start up a second cycle with small titration of Test P and NPP (@Southern Cross Labs had a really good deal going that I couldn't refuse). Grudgingly though, I had to cut the cycle short as my missus got annoyed and wants me off the AAS for at least 6months before hopping back on again (YES I KNOW! TRUST ME - I just don't feel like arguing with her...). Of course you need to listen to the missus, so I dropped everything and initiate PCT protocol (Last pin as of Mar 24th).

Now you guys are probably thinking "well - you could have easily went to TRT and conceive" much like @CypherOCE did - and that's a perfectly acceptable approach (again....missus). However for me, firstly I don't have much of a choice, and secondly I don't think I've been on AAS long enough, or severe enough, that I would need to consider TRT approach due to severe HPTA shutdown - so this approach back to natural production should be relatively easier (I hope...). We're on the train now so no point turning back!

Training

I've been consistently training since 2019 to this day. I'm very proud of this journey as it was the turning point in my life where everything about training, nutrition, consistency finally clicked in. I dropped from 85kg to 67kg in a span of 3.5months and never really got obese ever again.

I love everything about powerlifting style training but never competed. I did a couple of blocks and manage to hit the 1000lb club as natty. Since then I embraced AAS to potentially push my body to the absolute limits while trying to maintain as much lean physique as possible.

Unfortunately though, I got injured back in Jan. An adductor got slightly torn near the bone from a really basic warmup protocol (so sad...). This was the main reason why I dropped to TRT dose as there was no point maintaining a low dose blast while the body is in recovery mode. I had to skip legs indefinitely until recently, but hey, at least my upper body strength went up!

Right now I'm currently doing 4day/week training consisting of push mechanics (Chest, Tris, Shoulder, Quads) and pull mechanics (Back, Bis, Hamstring, Adductor). Other than the obvious slow re-entry to leg day, I had to dial down the training to maintenance intensity to support PCT (Max RPE8 and 10-12 reps).

Cardio currently sucks. The only one is my 10k steps a day. I'm not going to be surprised if my prolactin/ spikes next week in my blood test. Trying to start running again 30min a day in the morning.

Objective of this log

The primarily objective of this log is really to document my PCT journey and get some feedback from you great forum members on something I might have missed and may improve.

Equally important though is that I wanted to show this journey to others in this community and inspire those who may be considering stepping back a bit from the AAS scene, either because they feel they made a mistake or they're just wanting more research material into PCT.

As a secondary objective, we are living in the age of peptides. I wanted to show how these peptides can provide the support to that PCT journey, injury recovery, and lifestyle improvement and give further confidence to those who wants to follow in my PCT footsteps in the use of peptides.

Current Protocol
- Week 1/2 - hCG 500IU EOD & hMG 75IU 3x / week <---I'm currently at the start of week2
- Week 3 - Small break (5 days) <---Blood drawn Monday this week
- Week 4/5 - Clomid 50mg/Nolva 40mg / day
- Week 6/7 - Clomid 25mg/Nolva 20mg / day
- Week 8 - blood drawn and MAYBE more clomid 12.5mg/nolva 10mg / day depending where we're at

Nutrition
I won't dive too deep into this one as I'll be in surplus. At bare minimum I'm aiming at 300C/190P/90F for 2680cals.
Definitely will have a good mix of:
- Two whole eggs per day
- Brazillian Nuts (2 per day)
- Preworkout Banana, WPI, Chobani flavoured Greek yoghurt
- Granola Bowl (Greek yoghurt, WPI, Granola, Strawberries, kiwi, honey)
- Overnight Oats every day (oats, WPI, Yoghurt, milk, blueberries)
- Peanut Butter on 85% low carb bread
- Ninja Creamy protein ice cream (milk, almond milk, WPI, pudding mix)
- Toasty Cheese with ham (any white bread, high protein cheese, smoked ham)
- Chicken/Broccoli/Long Beans/Rice
- Rice Cakes with Cottage Cheese and Smoked Salmon (with a dill of course!)
- Lebanese Meat Pizza (Lebanese bread, high protein cheese, pizza sauce, chicken breast pieces, dice lean beef, bbq sauce)
- Steamed Barramundi with soy/garlic sauce and steamed veg (carrot/cauliflower/broccoli)
- Burrito Rice Bowls (Red Kidney Beans, high protein cheese, Guac, Pico, Corn, Grilled Chicken breast with Taco Seasoning, Brown Rice)
- Almonds on hand
- WPI with Almond Milk on hand
- Carrots (with my own secret recipe 0 cal sweet & spicy salt mix),
- Apples, Strawberries and Kiwi on hand

Supplements
Coq10 150mg
Multivitamin
Creatine 20mg / day
Injectable L Carnitine 400mg / week
Vit E 1000iu
Selenium 150mcg
L-theanine 400mg
Magnesium glycinate 655mg
Melatonin 10mg
Berberine 750mg
Maca 3500mg
Fish Oil 3000mg
Silymarin 550mg
Bergamot 500mg
Ashwagandha
Caruso's Fertile Max (Fenugreek, Korean ginseng, Zinc)
Pre-Workout
Electrolytes
Water 3-4L/day

Medications
I have the following on standby:
- Arimidex / Aromasin
- Ezetimbe
- Empagloflozin
- Metformin
- Telmisartan
- Caber
- Ketotifen

Peptides

Sponsored by @Prymal
- Reta (1mg dose / week) (maintain good insulin sensitivity and GLP-1 benefits)
- DSIP (nightly) - sleep support on top of melatonin
- KLOW (daily) - perpetual recovery for adductor tear and general training recovery
- Semax (Pre-Workout motivator)

Other stack
- NAD+ (100mg weekly)
- Mots-C (1mg) (pre workout)
- SS31 (daily)
- HGH (2IU nightly)
- Selank (as needed - maybe everyday )

Thank you for giving your time to following this log! I hope that it can be of benefit to someone someday! I don't think I will have the time or energy to update the log everyday due to my autistic kid and team leader role on my desk job, but definitely can assure it'll be frequent!

P.S. Sorry for the poor quality photo shots. I do monthly cupping / needling / deep tissue massage and cupping marks are still there a couple of days later. I'll do a nice one later.

@OwEv751 nice start to the log. You have a great physique.

 

[OwEv751]

Plan Update 3/4/26:

Last shot of hCG 1000IU & hMG 25IU today 3/4/26. The plan was to give time for hCG acitvity to die down around 3-4 days before bloods to be taken on Tuesday. I don't think I've got enough time for hMG FSH activity to leave the system sadly.

Plan is to start Clomid/Nolva 50mg straight after bloods drawn. Also have Arimidex ready in case E2 spikes really hard.

On the Peptides side of things:

Peptides

Sponsored by @Prymal - care package arriving soon!
- Reta (1mg dose / week) (maintain good insulin sensitivity and GLP-1 benefits) - not yet started (been off for 2 weeks now)
- DSIP (nightly) - sleep support on top of melatonin now removed from this list for the new log posted - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/the-sleep-log.110216/
- KLOW (daily) - perpetual recovery for adductor tear and general training recovery - not yet started also intended to be used ONLY on training days (4x/week)
- Semax (Pre-Workout motivator) - have my own and will use this to finish then swap to new vial next week - also intended administration is intranasal

Other stack
- NAD+ (100mg weekly) - to eventually ramp to 200mg
- Mots-C (1mg) (pre workout) - currently experimenting as I'm having adverse reaction to Mots-c. Update in log later.
- SS31 (daily) - 1mg
- HGH (2IU nightly) removed to allow testing of DSIP in another log
- Selank (as needed day time only intranasal - maybe everyday )

Future peptides to add for longevity:
- TA1 low dose 0.5mg 2x/week intended use: long term background immune modulation signalling, not blast and over activate it

 

[bss]

Good stuff mate, just keep in mind HCG mimics LH but doesn't actually show up as LH on bloods so no stress there. This early in PCT your LH and FSH will probably still look suppressed anyway, thats normal so don't freak out when you see the numbers. Clomid/Nolva combo is solid, keep the Adex handy but don't jump on it unless E2 symptoms are really obvious. Keen to see the results

 

[OwEv751]

happy to have you in the EVO family @OwEv751 waiting on bloods

SE Asian, 40, M, 5' 6" (168cm), 172lb (78kg) - thanks genetics lottery....

We all work with what we have

@OwEv751 i like the peptide layout. seeing a lot of guys loading up on these. they really do work!

You look good, bro. I don't know why you're hard on yourself. Your genetics are perfectly fine. You already look better than 95% of people. @OwEv751

Welcome to the logging world. I'm glad that you started this. @OwEv751 the EVO Family is here to help you. I like that you keep your medications on point. Taking care of your body and especially your heart health is important.

@OwEv751 bros seen a lot of dudes using SS31, mots-C and NAD+. and selank seeing more and more too. and semax too those are good ones

Wow what a thorough layout of what you're taking! Absolutely incredible job on these peptides and the medications that you're using as well and I love how you include electrolytes along with your water. Three to four liters is good. @OwEv751

@OwEv751 nice start to the log. You have a great physique.

Thanks all for your awesome words of encouragement! I found myself really addicted to Evo for a while now with it's amazing community to help each other get better!

 

[OwEv751]

Good stuff mate, just keep in mind HCG mimics LH but doesn't actually show up as LH on bloods so no stress there. This early in PCT your LH and FSH will probably still look suppressed anyway, thats normal so don't freak out when you see the numbers. Clomid/Nolva combo is solid, keep the Adex handy but don't jump on it unless E2 symptoms are really obvious. Keen to see the results

Thank you brother! To be honest being the very first PCT, it's kinda scary and exciting at the same time! I've heard of horror stories as well but I'm going to need to self control and not jump all over the place when some reds come up.

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks all for your awesome words of encouragement! I found myself really addicted to Evo for a while now with it's amazing community to help each other get better!

EVO family love your way! happy to see you addicted to positives and our family, you're a brother forever @OwEv751

 

[bss]

Thank you brother! To be honest being the very first PCT, it's kinda scary and exciting at the same time! I've heard of horror stories as well but I'm going to need to self control and not jump all over the place when some reds come up.

You will be fine =)

 

[Chowmanly]

Good on you for starting this log man, sounds like you’ve done your homework. Happy to help where I can and follow along. PCT proper sucks and we are here for the support.
Main question: did you pull bloods during the cycle? If LH and FSH didn’t get fully crushed (since it was a shorter run), you’re probably in a solid spot to restart your axis quicker and get back on track without needing TRT.
I’m kinda on the fence myself about jumping back on TRT and trying something similar to what Cypher did. First attempt in March didn’t work, and libido’s been all over the place.
Gonna give it another couple of tries, and if it still doesn’t happen, I’ll freeze sperm and then maybe go down that route.
I really like the sleep tracking, what device are you using? Been struggling with sleep since coming off the gear. Doesn’t help I’ve got bad sleep apnea and CPAP was a total fail, but the SomnoMed mouth guard actually keeps it under control.
I’ve messed around with an O2 ring to track sometimes, but that red light straight-up kills my sleep, so I only use it occasionally.

 

[Chowmanly]

If you can get your hands on enclo, do it, the side effects of clomiphene (due to the zuclomilphene in it) hit me hard and it takes a while to go away.

 

[OwEv751]

Good on you for starting this log man, sounds like you’ve done your homework. Happy to help where I can and follow along. PCT proper sucks and we are here for the support.
Main question: did you pull bloods during the cycle? If LH and FSH didn’t get fully crushed (since it was a shorter run), you’re probably in a solid spot to restart your axis quicker and get back on track without needing TRT.
I’m kinda on the fence myself about jumping back on TRT and trying something similar to what Cypher did. First attempt in March didn’t work, and libido’s been all over the place.
Gonna give it another couple of tries, and if it still doesn’t happen, I’ll freeze sperm and then maybe go down that route.
I really like the sleep tracking, what device are you using? Been struggling with sleep since coming off the gear. Doesn’t help I’ve got bad sleep apnea and CPAP was a total fail, but the SomnoMed mouth guard actually keeps it under control.
I’ve messed around with an O2 ring to track sometimes, but that red light straight-up kills my sleep, so I only use it occasionally.

Shame to admit but no I didn't pull bloods during my cycle. Didn't know how iMedical worked earlier and was too scared to ask GP for panel. Stupid mistakes one after the other. Live and let learn.

The blood draw next week was supposed to be for the 2nd cycle but hey we're here with PCT I feel I need to at least experience the natural route first before reconsidering TRT. Firstly as my own punishment for taking aas for granted, and secondly for community data research.

I'm currently using Oura Ring 4 Ceramic. Comfortable to wear but yea sadly you still get the red and green light going off all the time. Lucky I'm a side sleeper so I can slip my hand under the pillow.

After coming off Test Prop and NPP 2 weeks ago, I did feel a crash around day 4-5. My body was aching hard, my supposedly already 90% healed adductors was throbbing and I was feeling random injuries on my knees and lower back. I would think 125mg test and 75mg NPP would keep stable for a while longer until hcg/hmg takes over but my god that didn't happen. Sleep was definitely disruptive back then.

It's definitely way better now though, so far, my sleep data is showing I'm now getting decent sleep (though to be fair I was riding GH and melatonin for abit).

 

[OwEv751]

If you can get your hands on enclo, do it, the side effects of clomiphene (due to the zuclomilphene in it) hit me hard and it takes a while to go away.

I definitely have enclo on hand, but I also have overstock of clomid I was thinking of saving it until I can't handle Clomid anymore. Pray the peptides comes through to soften some of the sides....

 

[OwEv751]

Sleep Log #2 3/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate
-Ashwagandha
-Glycine

Felt abit restless throughout the night despite what Oura is saying. Woke up really groggy and feeling like didn't have enough sleep. What a brutal first night without GH and Melatonin....

Sleep Score: 6.5 / 10

 

[Chowmanly]

Shame to admit but no I didn't pull bloods during my cycle. Didn't know how iMedical worked earlier and was too scared to ask GP for panel. Stupid mistakes one after the other. Live and let learn.

The blood draw next week was supposed to be for the 2nd cycle but hey we're here with PCT I feel I need to at least experience the natural route first before reconsidering TRT. Firstly as my own punishment for taking aas for granted, and secondly for community data research.

I'm currently using Oura Ring 4 Ceramic. Comfortable to wear but yea sadly you still get the red and green light going off all the time. Lucky I'm a side sleeper so I can slip my hand under the pillow.

After coming off Test Prop and NPP 2 weeks ago, I did feel a crash around day 4-5. My body was aching hard, my supposedly already 90% healed adductors was throbbing and I was feeling random injuries on my knees and lower back. I would think 125mg test and 75mg NPP would keep stable for a while longer until hcg/hmg takes over but my god that didn't happen. Sleep was definitely disruptive back then.

It's definitely way better now though, so far, my sleep data is showing I'm now getting decent sleep (though to be fair I was riding GH and melatonin for abit).

Funny you say that, I’ve noticed the same thing. I seem to get injured more often after coming off, happened a few times now, and recovery is way slower too. Currently sidelined with a shoulder and neck injury.
If I were you, I’d try avoid clomid if possible. You really only need about half the dose with enclo vs clomid, especially if you’re already running nolva, more than enough already. Next weeks will be tough but hang in there mate.

Haven’t used peptides much so can’t say too much, only tried BPC-157 + TB-500 once for an injury and it definitely helped. Keen to look into it more though. One thing I’ve learned is not to overdo signaling during PCT more isn’t always better. But yeah, everyone reacts differently.

 

[LevButlerov]

Sleep Log #2 3/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate
-Ashwagandha
-Glycine

Felt abit restless throughout the night despite what Oura is saying. Woke up really groggy and feeling like didn't have enough sleep. What a brutal first night without GH and Melatonin....

Sleep Score: 6.5 / 10

are you taking any valerian root?

 

[OwEv751]

are you taking any valerian root?

I did think about Valerian Root, 5-HTP and L-Theanine but haven't bought them yet. I can add them to the stack and include DSIP as well. Just not sure at this point if DSIP would even be meaningful for peptide data gathering since there's now a few sleep beneficial compounds adding up.

 

[LevButlerov]

I did think about Valerian Root, 5-HTP and L-Theanine but haven't bought them yet. I can add them to the stack and include DSIP as well. Just not sure at this point if DSIP would even be meaningful for peptide data gathering since there's now a few sleep beneficial compounds adding up.

add 5htp to start with valerian to see

 

[ceo]

Thanks all for your awesome words of encouragement! I found myself really addicted to Evo for a while now with it's amazing community to help each other get better!

bros keep pumping that iron. we love you

 

[Ulter]

Thanks all for your awesome words of encouragement! I found myself really addicted to Evo for a while now with it's amazing community to help each other get better!

Keep up the good work, champ. We believe in you.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Thanks all for your awesome words of encouragement! I found myself really addicted to Evo for a while now with it's amazing community to help each other get better!

EVO is definitely the place for family.

 

[OwEv751]

Sleep Log #3 4/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate
-Ashwagandha
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine

(Soon to add )
-5HTP
-Valerian Root
-DSIP

Woke up a bit less last night, less groggy this morning and felt that I had a proper restorative sleep. My sleep onset was rather quick last night as well; probably because we're on long weekend here in oz so feeling 0 stress.

What looks to be freaky is my HR spike to wake me up at 2AM. Maybe my IGF-1 levels are too elevated at that time?

Try aiming to get up only twice a night.

Sleep Score : 8 / 10

Also may as well add some wake up BP data to same post. Nebivolol and Telmisartan can stay deep in the drawer for the time being

 

[LevButlerov]

Sleep Log #3 4/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate
-Ashwagandha
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine

(Soon to add )
-5HTP
-Valerian Root
-DSIP

Woke up a bit less last night, less groggy this morning and felt that I had a proper restorative sleep. My sleep onset was rather quick last night as well; probably because we're on long weekend here in oz so feeling 0 stress.

What looks to be freaky is my HR spike to wake me up at 2AM. Maybe my IGF-1 levels are too elevated at that time?

Try aiming to get up only twice a night.

Sleep Score : 8 / 10

Also may as well add some wake up BP data to same post. Nebivolol and Telmisartan can stay deep in the drawer for the time being

good sleep update and like your bp @OwEv751

 

[bss]

Sleep Log #3 4/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate
-Ashwagandha
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine

(Soon to add )
-5HTP
-Valerian Root
-DSIP

Woke up a bit less last night, less groggy this morning and felt that I had a proper restorative sleep. My sleep onset was rather quick last night as well; probably because we're on long weekend here in oz so feeling 0 stress.

What looks to be freaky is my HR spike to wake me up at 2AM. Maybe my IGF-1 levels are too elevated at that time?

Try aiming to get up only twice a night.

Sleep Score : 8 / 10

Also may as well add some wake up BP data to same post. Nebivolol and Telmisartan can stay deep in the drawer for the time being

Sleep log is looking better mate, less groggy is a win! The 2am HR spike is interesting, could just be cortisol doing its thing rather than IGF-1. Keen to see how the DSIP changes things once it arrives

 

[Noah Wixx]

great work so far man keep grinding its paying off already

 

[Allupfromhere]

Sleep Log #3 4/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate
-Ashwagandha
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine

(Soon to add )
-5HTP
-Valerian Root
-DSIP

Woke up a bit less last night, less groggy this morning and felt that I had a proper restorative sleep. My sleep onset was rather quick last night as well; probably because we're on long weekend here in oz so feeling 0 stress.

What looks to be freaky is my HR spike to wake me up at 2AM. Maybe my IGF-1 levels are too elevated at that time?

Try aiming to get up only twice a night.

Sleep Score : 8 / 10

Also may as well add some wake up BP data to same post. Nebivolol and Telmisartan can stay deep in the drawer for the time being

@RGSX has their elite sleep support range brother, it has significantly helped me and the quality of sleep ive been getting with whatever hours i can get in for the night.

 

[OwEv751]

@RGSX has their elite sleep support range brother, it has significantly helped me and the quality of sleep ive been getting with whatever hours i can get in for the night.

Thanks brother for the recommendation; I'll definitely be getting some soon!

 

[RGSX]

@RGSX has their elite sleep support range brother, it has significantly helped me and the quality of sleep ive been getting with whatever hours i can get in for the night.

Thanks brother

 

[2Thick]

Thanks all for your awesome words of encouragement! I found myself really addicted to Evo for a while now with it's amazing community to help each other get better!

thank you!

 

[OwEv751]

Sleep Log #4 5/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate
-Ashwagandha
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine
-Valerian Root

(Soon to add )
-5HTP
-DSIP

Went to bed highly nauseated most likely due to overdosing my daily supplements at dinner then pre-bed (had to leave early in the morning yesterday and only just got back home in the evening). Lesson learnt: don't do that.

Oura might be saying it's ok but the feeling of nauseousness is still persisting even now. Sleep was definitely not as restorative this time round.

Sleep Score : 5.5 / 10

 

[OwEv751]

PCT Weekly Update:

Last HCG injection Friday @1000IU 3/4/26
Last HMG injection Friday @25IU 3/4/26

The past couple of days, my two friends were rock hard and came back to size (one slightly bigger than the other as well).

New acne flaring as well which might mean my natural testosterone came back and/or E2 symptoms? Currently using benzoyl peroxide wash with doxycycline to manage.

Otherwise no water retention as of yet but libido is super low. Mood somewhat flat and seemingly easily annoyed.

Plan for next week:
- Draw blood Tuesday 7/4
- Start Clomid50/Nolva40 straight after blood draw.
- Adex on standby
- Enclo on standby the next week in case above combo is severe.

 

[OwEv751]

Weekly Check-in

Peptides used this week:

Peptide	Dosage and Frequency	Total Week volume (mg)
SS-31	2mg 7x	14
NAD+	25mg 2x	50
Motsc (paused due to reaction - restart next week)	0.5 2x	1
Reta (@Prymal)	---	---
GHK-Cu	1mg 7x	7
TA-1	1mg 2x	2
KLOW (@Prymal)	---	---
BPC-157	0.5mg 7x	3.5
TB-500	2mg 2x	4

KPV	0.5mg 7x	3.5
DSIP (@Prymal )	---	---
Selank	1mg 5x	5
Semax (Currently using own) (soon @Prymal )	1mg 4x	4

Food & Water:
Definitely happy at 2680 Cals. Very satiated with all my meals. Will definitely need to stop IF to 10AM though as I'm starting to struggle a bit with maintaining hunger - especially reintroducing low dose reta next week. Might also need to swap out some healthy fibre based foods out to more ultra-processed otherwise I'm seeing a struggle coming.
Water intake: 3L average

Training:
Went out to do a couple of runs this week. I signed up for a 14km marathon later this year so I need to get my cardio in shape now. First run 6km was horrendous - had to basically stop at every 10minutes due to poor endurance (and also didn't have my rapihaler with me). Second time 6km, had pre-workout, used @Raptor Labs SR9009 and @CladHQ Yohimbine to improve endurance. Difference was night and day; only had to stop like twice and only because of traffic lights. Definitely recommended for anyone looking to train cardio endurance.

Steps has been super poor effort. Was aiming for 10k steps a day but really not feeling it in the evening. Notice a few days I just slacked off. Need to do better.

Gym Motivation has been average. Feeling like I'm just going through the motion although still completing my sets just fine. Other than the PCT phase, I'm thinking I might need to up my calories a bit more, considering next week is when reta is back on the table as well.

Training program currently at tempo style 31X1, mostly on machine, RPE7-8. Trying to aim more at 10-12 reps but underestimated the brutality of 31X1 tempo training. Will need to dial down the weights a bit next week.

Mental State:
I took the past week off work to deload my work stress and finally kickstarted logging on evo. Definitely no complaints on mental state as there's definitely been heaps of R&R. Next week might be different though as I'll be back to my day job. Hopefully I can maintain my logging momentum here.

 

[LevButlerov]

Sleep Log #4 5/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate
-Ashwagandha
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine
-Valerian Root

(Soon to add )
-5HTP
-DSIP

Went to bed highly nauseated most likely due to overdosing my daily supplements at dinner then pre-bed (had to leave early in the morning yesterday and only just got back home in the evening). Lesson learnt: don't do that.

Oura might be saying it's ok but the feeling of nauseousness is still persisting even now. Sleep was definitely not as restorative this time round.

Sleep Score : 5.5 / 10

how much supps did you take?

 

[LevButlerov]

PCT Weekly Update:

Last HCG injection Friday @1000IU 3/4/26
Last HMG injection Friday @25IU 3/4/26

The past couple of days, my two friends were rock hard and came back to size (one slightly bigger than the other as well).

New acne flaring as well which might mean my natural testosterone came back and/or E2 symptoms? Currently using benzoyl peroxide wash with doxycycline to manage.

Otherwise no water retention as of yet but libido is super low. Mood somewhat flat and seemingly easily annoyed.

Plan for next week:
- Draw blood Tuesday 7/4
- Start Clomid50/Nolva40 straight after blood draw.
- Adex on standby
- Enclo on standby the next week in case above combo is severe.

are you taking salt baths and getting sun? @OwEv751

 

[LevButlerov]

Weekly Check-in

Peptides used this week:

Peptide	Dosage and Frequency	Total Week volume (mg)
SS-31	2mg 7x	14
NAD+	25mg 2x	50
Motsc (paused due to reaction - restart next week)	0.5 2x	1
Reta (@Prymal)	---	---
GHK-Cu	1mg 7x	7
TA-1	1mg 2x	2
KLOW (@Prymal)	---	---
BPC-157	0.5mg 7x	3.5
TB-500	2mg 2x	4

KPV	0.5mg 7x	3.5
DSIP (@Prymal )	---	---
Selank	1mg 5x	5
Semax (Currently using own) (soon @Prymal )	1mg 4x	4

Food & Water:
Definitely happy at 2680 Cals. Very satiated with all my meals. Will definitely need to stop IF to 10AM though as I'm starting to struggle a bit with maintaining hunger - especially reintroducing low dose reta next week. Might also need to swap out some healthy fibre based foods out to more ultra-processed otherwise I'm seeing a struggle coming.
Water intake: 3L average

Training:
Went out to do a couple of runs this week. I signed up for a 14km marathon later this year so I need to get my cardio in shape now. First run 6km was horrendous - had to basically stop at every 10minutes due to poor endurance (and also didn't have my rapihaler with me). Second time 6km, had pre-workout, used @Raptor Labs SR9009 and @CladHQ Yohimbine to improve endurance. Difference was night and day; only had to stop like twice and only because of traffic lights. Definitely recommended for anyone looking to train cardio endurance.

Steps has been super poor effort. Was aiming for 10k steps a day but really not feeling it in the evening. Notice a few days I just slacked off. Need to do better.

Gym Motivation has been average. Feeling like I'm just going through the motion although still completing my sets just fine. Other than the PCT phase, I'm thinking I might need to up my calories a bit more, considering next week is when reta is back on the table as well.

Training program currently at tempo style 31X1, mostly on machine, RPE7-8. Trying to aim more at 10-12 reps but underestimated the brutality of 31X1 tempo training. Will need to dial down the weights a bit next week.

Mental State:
I took the past week off work to deload my work stress and finally kickstarted logging on evo. Definitely no complaints on mental state as there's definitely been heaps of R&R. Next week might be different though as I'll be back to my day job. Hopefully I can maintain my logging momentum here.

you look good clean double bi big arms @OwEv751
training are you doing volume on actual training?

on the food can you post some food screens from app?


@BeMe @HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @waggat @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67 @codezz
@MarkNV @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy @Shakey @Eveflorence @LH5515 @Yuri @Doctakay @catdadironman

 

[Grumpy]

Looking good definitely an interesting log to follow running a heap of different peptides are you also running any oils

 

[OwEv751]

how much supps did you take?

At Dinner (around 7PM):
Coq10 150mg
Multivitamin
Vit E 1000iu
Selenium 150mcg
Berberine 750mg
Maca 3500mg
Fish Oil 1500mg
Silymarin 550mg
Bergamot 500mg
Caruso's Fertile Max (Fenugreek, Korean ginseng, Zinc)

Then 30min before bed (11PM)
-Magnesium Glycinate 655mg
-Ashwagandha 300mg
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine 400mg
-Valerian Root 562.5mg

Water consumed was around 1L all up I think.

 

[OwEv751]

are you taking salt baths and getting sun? @OwEv751

My little granny flat can't fit a bath sadly not alot of sun, maybe around 2hrs max.

I think might be even worse when I'm back to my desk job next week.

 

[OwEv751]

you look good clean double bi big arms @OwEv751
training are you doing volume on actual training?

on the food can you post some food screens from app?


@BeMe @HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @waggat @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67 @codezz
@MarkNV @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy @Shakey @Eveflorence @LH5515 @Yuri @Doctakay @catdadironman

Thanks!

Little bit of volume because I was intending on doing 10-12 reps with 31X1 tempo. However, last week I overreached the weights so fortunately ended up lowering the volume by accident. Might just stick to 6-8 from now on.

I'm using myfitnesspal so don't have fancy food pics. Please see my sample meal prepped days

 

[OwEv751]

Looking good definitely an interesting log to follow running a heap of different peptides are you also running any oils

Wish I could go back to oils . Currently on PCT. Starting clomid/nolva next week.

 

[Grumpy]

Wish I could go back to oils . Currently on PCT. Starting clomid/nolva next week.

Mate you will get back there im sure you will get some good results from the peptides

 

[Yuri]

Weekly Check-in

Peptides used this week:

Peptide	Dosage and Frequency	Total Week volume (mg)
SS-31	2mg 7x	14
NAD+	25mg 2x	50
Motsc (paused due to reaction - restart next week)	0.5 2x	1
Reta (@Prymal)	---	---
GHK-Cu	1mg 7x	7
TA-1	1mg 2x	2
KLOW (@Prymal)	---	---
BPC-157	0.5mg 7x	3.5
TB-500	2mg 2x	4

KPV	0.5mg 7x	3.5
DSIP (@Prymal )	---	---
Selank	1mg 5x	5
Semax (Currently using own) (soon @Prymal )	1mg 4x	4

Food & Water:
Definitely happy at 2680 Cals. Very satiated with all my meals. Will definitely need to stop IF to 10AM though as I'm starting to struggle a bit with maintaining hunger - especially reintroducing low dose reta next week. Might also need to swap out some healthy fibre based foods out to more ultra-processed otherwise I'm seeing a struggle coming.
Water intake: 3L average

Training:
Went out to do a couple of runs this week. I signed up for a 14km marathon later this year so I need to get my cardio in shape now. First run 6km was horrendous - had to basically stop at every 10minutes due to poor endurance (and also didn't have my rapihaler with me). Second time 6km, had pre-workout, used @Raptor Labs SR9009 and @CladHQ Yohimbine to improve endurance. Difference was night and day; only had to stop like twice and only because of traffic lights. Definitely recommended for anyone looking to train cardio endurance.

Steps has been super poor effort. Was aiming for 10k steps a day but really not feeling it in the evening. Notice a few days I just slacked off. Need to do better.

Gym Motivation has been average. Feeling like I'm just going through the motion although still completing my sets just fine. Other than the PCT phase, I'm thinking I might need to up my calories a bit more, considering next week is when reta is back on the table as well.

Training program currently at tempo style 31X1, mostly on machine, RPE7-8. Trying to aim more at 10-12 reps but underestimated the brutality of 31X1 tempo training. Will need to dial down the weights a bit next week.

Mental State:
I took the past week off work to deload my work stress and finally kickstarted logging on evo. Definitely no complaints on mental state as there's definitely been heaps of R&R. Next week might be different though as I'll be back to my day job. Hopefully I can maintain my logging momentum here.

Back and arms is a great shot for you!

Would love to see the full day of eating / melas when you have time

Evo family wants to see you kill this brother!

 

[OwEv751]

Back and arms is a great shot for you!

Would love to see the full day of eating / melas when you have time

Evo family wants to see you kill this brother!

Just finished next week's meal prep and planning @LevButlerov

I didn't break into each sub ingredients otherwise the table will be full

 

[Yuri]

Just finished next week's meal prep and planning @LevButlerov

I didn't break into each sub ingredients otherwise the table will be full

That’s awesome brother!

 

[waggat]

Weekly Check-in

Peptides used this week:

Peptide	Dosage and Frequency	Total Week volume (mg)
SS-31	2mg 7x	14
NAD+	25mg 2x	50
Motsc (paused due to reaction - restart next week)	0.5 2x	1
Reta (@Prymal)	---	---
GHK-Cu	1mg 7x	7
TA-1	1mg 2x	2
KLOW (@Prymal)	---	---
BPC-157	0.5mg 7x	3.5
TB-500	2mg 2x	4

KPV	0.5mg 7x	3.5
DSIP (@Prymal )	---	---
Selank	1mg 5x	5
Semax (Currently using own) (soon @Prymal )	1mg 4x	4

Food & Water:
Definitely happy at 2680 Cals. Very satiated with all my meals. Will definitely need to stop IF to 10AM though as I'm starting to struggle a bit with maintaining hunger - especially reintroducing low dose reta next week. Might also need to swap out some healthy fibre based foods out to more ultra-processed otherwise I'm seeing a struggle coming.
Water intake: 3L average

Training:
Went out to do a couple of runs this week. I signed up for a 14km marathon later this year so I need to get my cardio in shape now. First run 6km was horrendous - had to basically stop at every 10minutes due to poor endurance (and also didn't have my rapihaler with me). Second time 6km, had pre-workout, used @Raptor Labs SR9009 and @CladHQ Yohimbine to improve endurance. Difference was night and day; only had to stop like twice and only because of traffic lights. Definitely recommended for anyone looking to train cardio endurance.

Steps has been super poor effort. Was aiming for 10k steps a day but really not feeling it in the evening. Notice a few days I just slacked off. Need to do better.

Gym Motivation has been average. Feeling like I'm just going through the motion although still completing my sets just fine. Other than the PCT phase, I'm thinking I might need to up my calories a bit more, considering next week is when reta is back on the table as well.

Training program currently at tempo style 31X1, mostly on machine, RPE7-8. Trying to aim more at 10-12 reps but underestimated the brutality of 31X1 tempo training. Will need to dial down the weights a bit next week.

Mental State:
I took the past week off work to deload my work stress and finally kickstarted logging on evo. Definitely no complaints on mental state as there's definitely been heaps of R&R. Next week might be different though as I'll be back to my day job. Hopefully I can maintain my logging momentum here.

Looking good mate. Macros look pretty good too... Carbs maybe just slightly high for me but nothing major.

 

[bss]

Just finished next week's meal prep and planning @LevButlerov

I didn't break into each sub ingredients otherwise the table will be full

Meal prep looking solid mate! Good to see you're getting the nutrition dialled in alongside the PCT. Macros look pretty decent, how you finding the appetite with everything going on?

 

[OwEv751]

Meal prep looking solid mate! Good to see you're getting the nutrition dialled in alongside the PCT. Macros look pretty decent, how you finding the appetite with everything going on?

Thanks mate. To be honest it's much harder than I thought to keep the food down because the main carb sources are all high fibre. Just gotta size up to it over time I guess.

 

[bss]

Thanks mate. To be honest it's much harder than I thought to keep the food down because the main carb sources are all high fibre. Just gotta size up to it over time I guess.

Yeah you can easily dieled that as you go and see what works and what doesn't.

 

[Chowmanly]

Make sure you keep calories up during this phase, plenty of carbs is key.
The acne is pretty much inevitable. I actually had more acne coming off than when I was running sustanon + mast + oxa.
Try glycine + NAC before sleep, that’s helped me. Also magnesium threonate and L-theanine work well too.

 

[OwEv751]

Sleep Log #5 5/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate 655mg
-Ashwagandha 300mg
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine 400mg
-Valerian Root 562.5mg

(Soon to add )
-5HTP
-DSIP

Decent sleep this time. Definitely didn't overdose supps like I did yesterday

Sleep Score : 7 / 10

Peptide Plan today
SS-31 2mg
NAD+ 25mg
Motsc
Reta (@Prymal)
GHK-Cu 1mg
TA-1
KLOW (@Prymal)
BPC-157 0.5mg
TB-500
KPV 0.5mg
DSIP (@Prymal )
Selank 1mg
Semax 1mg

Even after reconstituting with now 10mg/3mL, still getting mast cell activation from Mots-c even at SubQ 0.15mg (5IU). IM next!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Sleep Log #5 5/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate 655mg
-Ashwagandha 300mg
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine 400mg
-Valerian Root 562.5mg

(Soon to add )
-5HTP
-DSIP

Decent sleep this time. Definitely didn't overdose supps like I did yesterday

Sleep Score : 7 / 10

Peptide Plan today
SS-31 2mg
NAD+ 25mg
Motsc
Reta (@Prymal)
GHK-Cu 1mg
TA-1
KLOW (@Prymal)
BPC-157 0.5mg
TB-500
KPV 0.5mg
DSIP (@Prymal )
Selank 1mg
Semax 1mg

Even after reconstituting with now 10mg/3mL, still getting mast cell activation from Mots-c even at SubQ 0.15mg (5IU). IM next!

Great log you got going here bro and nice updates. You're really answering a lot of questions and getting help I see it's really nice to watch. Your pics look great too! Strong back, big arms and wide shoulder.

currently experimenting as I'm having adverse reaction to Mots-c. Update in log later.

See last quote below....

Sleep was definitely disruptive back then.

I hope the DSIP helps soon, nice that @LevButlerov has got some sleep supps on board and we're paying attention to this

Sleep Score : 8 / 10

Some nights good some nights bad

Lesson learnt: don't do that.

Haha this gave me a laugh... this is how we all learn brutha and it's nice to see it in action with a detailed log.

Even after reconstituting with now 10mg/3mL, still getting mast cell activation from Mots-c even at SubQ 0.15mg (5IU). IM next!

What mcg/mg dose are you currently running or plan on landing at? I'll put you in our MOTS-c megathread research article here MOTS-C Peptide - Overview, Dosing, and Reviews

 

[OwEv751]

What mcg/mg dose are you currently running or plan on landing at? I'll put you in our MOTS-c megathread research article here MOTS-C Peptide - Overview, Dosing, and Reviews

I was planning to land at 2mg EOD but been stuck at the moment.

Great log you got going here bro and nice updates. You're really answering a lot of questions and getting help I see it's really nice to watch. Your pics look great too! Strong back, big arms and wide shoulder.

Thanks brother for the feedback! I'm in this for the long term so may as well contribute some of my data.

 

[HarleyGuy]

I was planning to land at 2mg EOD but been stuck at the moment.



Thanks brother for the feedback! I'm in this for the long term so may as well contribute some of my data.

You sir have been added to our MOTS-c Community Research thread! https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mots-c-peptide-overview-dosing-and-reviews.110114/

Feel free to post your dosing struggles with it including any reviews it will help the entire EVO community and you can play a part bro!

 

[OwEv751]

New Mots-c combat plan:
-No Mots-c injection for 2 weeks
-Add Quercetin 500mg a day
-Add Vit-C 1.5mg split 3x a day
-Keep Fish Oil as is at 3mg a day
-Ketotifen 1mg nightly
-Increase TA-1 from original 2mg to 5mg a week for 2 weeks only. Still pulse at 2x shot a week.

Hopefully this will reduce my mast cell activation sensitivity.

 

[LevButlerov]

New Mots-c combat plan:
-No Mots-c injection for 2 weeks
-Add Quercetin 500mg a day
-Add Vit-C 1.5mg split 3x a day
-Keep Fish Oil as is at 3mg a day
-Ketotifen 1mg nightly
-Increase TA-1 from original 2mg to 5mg a week for 2 weeks only. Still pulse at 2x shot a week.

Hopefully this will reduce my mast cell activation sensitivity.

lets see how you do 2 weeks off mots C

 

[OwEv751]

Training update:
Chest Shoulders Tricep tempo control 21XX.
Fasted Morning.
Mood: 9/10 motivation was banging!
Post: 9/10 not even fatigued. Must be all that carb load on the weekend

Who doesn't love a good push day! Everything moves super easy! Kinda upsetting seeing the need to lower the weight but hey that's PCT for ya!

Got nice lil tri pump photo for fun! Got abit of asymmetry going on between my tris

 

[LevButlerov]

Training update:
Chest Shoulders Tricep tempo control 21XX.
Fasted Morning.
Mood: 9/10 motivation was banging!
Post: 9/10 not even fatigued. Must be all that carb load on the weekend

Who doesn't love a good push day! Everything moves super easy! Kinda upsetting seeing the need to lower the weight but hey that's PCT for ya!

Got nice lil tri pump photo for fun! Got abit of asymmetry going on between my tris

good push day strong arms!

 

[OwEv751]

Sleep Log #6 6/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate 655mg
-Ashwagandha 300mg
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine 400mg
-Valerian Root 562.5mg

(Soon to add )
-5HTP
-DSIP

Had to have the supplements earlier last night due to fasting for blood test. Was fighting sleep for a while to sort out late night work . Still manage in the end to get decent sleep.

Sleep Score : 8.5 / 10

Peptide Plan today
SS-31 2mg
NAD+
Motsc
Reta (@Prymal)
GHK-Cu 1mg
TA-1 2.5mg
KLOW (@Prymal)
BPC-157 0.5mg
TB-500
KPV 0.5mg
DSIP (@Prymal )
Selank 1mg
Semax 1mg

 

[LevButlerov]

Sleep Log #6 6/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate 655mg
-Ashwagandha 300mg
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine 400mg
-Valerian Root 562.5mg

(Soon to add )
-5HTP
-DSIP

Had to have the supplements earlier last night due to fasting for blood test. Was fighting sleep for a while to sort out late night work . Still manage in the end to get decent sleep.

Sleep Score : 8.5 / 10

Peptide Plan today
SS-31 2mg
NAD+
Motsc
Reta (@Prymal)
GHK-Cu 1mg
TA-1 2.5mg
KLOW (@Prymal)
BPC-157 0.5mg
TB-500
KPV 0.5mg
DSIP (@Prymal )
Selank 1mg
Semax 1mg

good sleep i would start the 5htp soon see how you feel

 

[bss]

Sleep Log #6 6/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate 655mg
-Ashwagandha 300mg
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine 400mg
-Valerian Root 562.5mg

(Soon to add )
-5HTP
-DSIP

Had to have the supplements earlier last night due to fasting for blood test. Was fighting sleep for a while to sort out late night work . Still manage in the end to get decent sleep.

Sleep Score : 8.5 / 10

Peptide Plan today
SS-31 2mg
NAD+
Motsc
Reta (@Prymal)
GHK-Cu 1mg
TA-1 2.5mg
KLOW (@Prymal)
BPC-157 0.5mg
TB-500
KPV 0.5mg
DSIP (@Prymal )
Selank 1mg
Semax 1mg

That peptide stack is impressive brother! Good call fasting for bloods, keen to see those results tomorrow. 8.5 sleep score even with fighting it is solid

 

[OwEv751]

That peptide stack is impressive brother! Good call fasting for bloods, keen to see those results tomorrow. 8.5 sleep score even with fighting it is solid

Thanks brother! I gotta clean out the bpc, tb, ghk & kpv before starting KLOW. The peptide list will be updated soon!

 

[OwEv751]

Training update:
Back and Bis tempo control 21XX.
1hr workout.
Mood: 8.5/10 no complaints here. Semax is doing its job!
Post: 8/10 Great pump but abit hungry near the end.

Had to speedrun this workout as I need to rush back to work asap. Didn't even get to preload LCarn today . But with Semax Nasal 1.5mg? Whoahohoho my brain was firing with mood and motivation!

Great session all round. Came back home looking forward to my post workout meal

Awesome pump photo on the bis as well. Wouldn't even think I was low test

 

[OwEv751]

PCT Update

So today I went to get bloods done early in the morning. Chugging down 1L of water was really not fun... anyways, standard panel BB3 v2 with Thyroid this time.

Today also mark the day I first start clomid/nolva. 25/20 at breakfast and within an hr I get flushed face and my balls got onset pulsing hypersensation. Considering I've been off hcg/hmg since Friday and over the weekend the balls were rock hard and sensitive, I have a really good feeling that clomid/nolva was able to kickstart my pituitary! Only time will tell!

I also want to come clean a bit because it's been biting my consciousness and PCT require critical timing, especially without an endocrinologist to assist. I had my bloods done earlier to allow compare. I didn't disclose until now because I first need to convince someone that it's ok to disclose personal bloodwork to a forum full of strangers without exposing sensitive information for someone to take advantage of. Let's just say that person is ok, but also not ok right now, if you get my drift....it'll take some time to convince that this is mandatory for PCT success as timing is so short. Another battle ahead

To be honest I also wasn't sure how I was going to convey my new blood work tomorrow/Thursday. Anyways we're here now just in time for the NEXT bloodwork to compare!

 

[LevButlerov]

Training update:
Back and Bis tempo control 21XX.
1hr workout.
Mood: 8.5/10 no complaints here. Semax is doing its job!
Post: 8/10 Great pump but abit hungry near the end.

Had to speedrun this workout as I need to rush back to work asap. Didn't even get to preload LCarn today . But with Semax Nasal 1.5mg? Whoahohoho my brain was firing with mood and motivation!

Great session all round. Came back home looking forward to my post workout meal

Awesome pump photo on the bis as well. Wouldn't even think I was low test

good arm pump and clean meal @OwEv751

PCT Update

So today I went to get bloods done early in the morning. Chugging down 1L of water was really not fun... anyways, standard panel BB3 v2 with Thyroid this time.

Today also mark the day I first start clomid/nolva. 25/20 at breakfast and within an hr I get flushed face and my balls got onset pulsing hypersensation. Considering I've been off hcg/hmg since Friday and over the weekend the balls were rock hard and sensitive, I have a really good feeling that clomid/nolva was able to kickstart my pituitary! Only time will tell!

I also want to come clean a bit because it's been biting my consciousness and PCT require critical timing, especially without an endocrinologist to assist. I had my bloods done earlier to allow compare. I didn't disclose until now because I first need to convince someone that it's ok to disclose personal bloodwork to a forum full of strangers without exposing sensitive information for someone to take advantage of. Let's just say that person is ok, but also not ok right now, if you get my drift....it'll take some time to convince that this is mandatory for PCT success as timing is so short. Another battle ahead

To be honest I also wasn't sure how I was going to convey my new blood work tomorrow/Thursday. Anyways we're here now just in time for the NEXT bloodwork to compare!

e2 is good but we need to get your test back up
what new bloods tomorrow?

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[OwEv751]

e2 is good but we need to get your test back up
what new bloods tomorrow?

Sorry to be clear. The bloods you just saw was from 2 week's ago. I got new bloods done today and waiting for results now. Will post once received (expecting tomorrow or Thursday)

 

[Mobster]

Was fighting sleep for a while to sort out late night work

Been the same the last day or so with a mild chest infection. We need the rest

 

[Doctakay]

Training update:
Back and Bis tempo control 21XX.
1hr workout.
Mood: 8.5/10 no complaints here. Semax is doing its job!
Post: 8/10 Great pump but abit hungry near the end.

Had to speedrun this workout as I need to rush back to work asap. Didn't even get to preload LCarn today . But with Semax Nasal 1.5mg? Whoahohoho my brain was firing with mood and motivation!

Great session all round. Came back home looking forward to my post workout meal

Awesome pump photo on the bis as well. Wouldn't even think I was low test

Looking good brother. Very cool peptide stack too. Don't worry about posting blood work, the veterans are here to help. You've excluded all the serial numbers and identification stuff so you're all good.

 

[Grumpy]

We be good to see the updated bloods see where the test levels are at

 

[Chowmanly]

PCT Update

So today I went to get bloods done early in the morning. Chugging down 1L of water was really not fun... anyways, standard panel BB3 v2 with Thyroid this time.

Today also mark the day I first start clomid/nolva. 25/20 at breakfast and within an hr I get flushed face and my balls got onset pulsing hypersensation. Considering I've been off hcg/hmg since Friday and over the weekend the balls were rock hard and sensitive, I have a really good feeling that clomid/nolva was able to kickstart my pituitary! Only time will tell!

I also want to come clean a bit because it's been biting my consciousness and PCT require critical timing, especially without an endocrinologist to assist. I had my bloods done earlier to allow compare. I didn't disclose until now because I first need to convince someone that it's ok to disclose personal bloodwork to a forum full of strangers without exposing sensitive information for someone to take advantage of. Let's just say that person is ok, but also not ok right now, if you get my drift....it'll take some time to convince that this is mandatory for PCT success as timing is so short. Another battle ahead

To be honest I also wasn't sure how I was going to convey my new blood work tomorrow/Thursday. Anyways we're here now just in time for the NEXT bloodwork to compare!

Was this blood taken after your last shot? If yes how many days? It looks to be on the way down. Next bloods likely to be a lot lower.

 

[OwEv751]

Nah this blood was taken on the day just before my last shot. I hope it doesn't go down .

 

[waggat]

Training update:
Back and Bis tempo control 21XX.
1hr workout.
Mood: 8.5/10 no complaints here. Semax is doing its job!
Post: 8/10 Great pump but abit hungry near the end.

Had to speedrun this workout as I need to rush back to work asap. Didn't even get to preload LCarn today . But with Semax Nasal 1.5mg? Whoahohoho my brain was firing with mood and motivation!

Great session all round. Came back home looking forward to my post workout meal

Awesome pump photo on the bis as well. Wouldn't even think I was low test

Nice workout there mate. Good selection of exercises.

The pump looks awesome. Arms are looking big!

PCT Update

So today I went to get bloods done early in the morning. Chugging down 1L of water was really not fun... anyways, standard panel BB3 v2 with Thyroid this time.

Today also mark the day I first start clomid/nolva. 25/20 at breakfast and within an hr I get flushed face and my balls got onset pulsing hypersensation. Considering I've been off hcg/hmg since Friday and over the weekend the balls were rock hard and sensitive, I have a really good feeling that clomid/nolva was able to kickstart my pituitary! Only time will tell!

I also want to come clean a bit because it's been biting my consciousness and PCT require critical timing, especially without an endocrinologist to assist. I had my bloods done earlier to allow compare. I didn't disclose until now because I first need to convince someone that it's ok to disclose personal bloodwork to a forum full of strangers without exposing sensitive information for someone to take advantage of. Let's just say that person is ok, but also not ok right now, if you get my drift....it'll take some time to convince that this is mandatory for PCT success as timing is so short. Another battle ahead

To be honest I also wasn't sure how I was going to convey my new blood work tomorrow/Thursday. Anyways we're here now just in time for the NEXT bloodwork to compare!

I don't understand these results. Why is your T so low? You said you're starting PCT today. If these are from two weeks ago, shouldn't the T be higher?

 

[OwEv751]

Nice workout there mate. Good selection of exercises.

The pump looks awesome. Arms are looking big!

I don't understand these results. Why is your T so low? You said you're starting PCT today. If these are from two weeks ago, shouldn't the T be higher?

Sorry I didn't think 464 ng/dL is that low

I was on trt dose for many weeks on test e, switched to test prop intending to start a new cycle. Work callout unexpectedly so I had to head to site packing light. Came back home on Sunday and fast to following morning for the blood test.

 

[stevesmi]

Sleep Log #6 6/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate 655mg
-Ashwagandha 300mg
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine 400mg
-Valerian Root 562.5mg

(Soon to add )
-5HTP
-DSIP

Had to have the supplements earlier last night due to fasting for blood test. Was fighting sleep for a while to sort out late night work . Still manage in the end to get decent sleep.

Sleep Score : 8.5 / 10

Peptide Plan today
SS-31 2mg
NAD+
Motsc
Reta (@Prymal)
GHK-Cu 1mg
TA-1 2.5mg
KLOW (@Prymal)
BPC-157 0.5mg
TB-500
KPV 0.5mg
DSIP (@Prymal )
Selank 1mg
Semax 1mg

@OwEv751 nice job on this. The peptides are looking terrific. I'm seeing more and more people using KLOW and semax. those are really getting popular

 

[2Thick]

Sleep Log #6 6/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate 655mg
-Ashwagandha 300mg
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine 400mg
-Valerian Root 562.5mg

(Soon to add )
-5HTP
-DSIP

Had to have the supplements earlier last night due to fasting for blood test. Was fighting sleep for a while to sort out late night work . Still manage in the end to get decent sleep.

Sleep Score : 8.5 / 10

Peptide Plan today
SS-31 2mg
NAD+
Motsc
Reta (@Prymal)
GHK-Cu 1mg
TA-1 2.5mg
KLOW (@Prymal)
BPC-157 0.5mg
TB-500
KPV 0.5mg
DSIP (@Prymal )
Selank 1mg
Semax 1mg

That is a heck of an update right there. I like your sleep protocol. It certainly is capable of knocking you out and having a really deep sleep. @OwEv751

 

[Ulter]

Sleep Log #6 6/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate 655mg
-Ashwagandha 300mg
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine 400mg
-Valerian Root 562.5mg

(Soon to add )
-5HTP
-DSIP

Had to have the supplements earlier last night due to fasting for blood test. Was fighting sleep for a while to sort out late night work . Still manage in the end to get decent sleep.

Sleep Score : 8.5 / 10

Peptide Plan today
SS-31 2mg
NAD+
Motsc
Reta (@Prymal)
GHK-Cu 1mg
TA-1 2.5mg
KLOW (@Prymal)
BPC-157 0.5mg
TB-500
KPV 0.5mg
DSIP (@Prymal )
Selank 1mg
Semax 1mg

Looking good on this set up. I like the sleeping schedule. @OwEv751 it looks really good and I'm glad that you're getting some really good sleep.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Sleep Log #6 6/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate 655mg
-Ashwagandha 300mg
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine 400mg
-Valerian Root 562.5mg

(Soon to add )
-5HTP
-DSIP

Had to have the supplements earlier last night due to fasting for blood test. Was fighting sleep for a while to sort out late night work . Still manage in the end to get decent sleep.

Sleep Score : 8.5 / 10

Peptide Plan today
SS-31 2mg
NAD+
Motsc
Reta (@Prymal)
GHK-Cu 1mg
TA-1 2.5mg
KLOW (@Prymal)
BPC-157 0.5mg
TB-500
KPV 0.5mg
DSIP (@Prymal )
Selank 1mg
Semax 1mg

Nice job on this man. The peptide plan is really thorough and my goodness, it is not cheap at all but it's going to be a really good investment. @OwEv751

 

[ceo]

Sleep Log #6 6/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate 655mg
-Ashwagandha 300mg
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine 400mg
-Valerian Root 562.5mg

(Soon to add )
-5HTP
-DSIP

Had to have the supplements earlier last night due to fasting for blood test. Was fighting sleep for a while to sort out late night work . Still manage in the end to get decent sleep.

Sleep Score : 8.5 / 10

Peptide Plan today
SS-31 2mg
NAD+
Motsc
Reta (@Prymal)
GHK-Cu 1mg
TA-1 2.5mg
KLOW (@Prymal)
BPC-157 0.5mg
TB-500
KPV 0.5mg
DSIP (@Prymal )
Selank 1mg
Semax 1mg

@OwEv751 bros, nice on the sleep. Score 8.5 out of 10 is not bad at all. hope you can get it past 9 at some point!

 

[waggat]

Sorry I didn't think 464 ng/dL is that low

I was on trt dose for many weeks on test e, switched to test prop intending to start a new cycle. Work callout unexpectedly so I had to head to site packing light. Came back home on Sunday and fast to following morning for the blood test.

I'm looking at this one:

 

[OwEv751]

Sleep Log #7 7/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate 655mg
-Ashwagandha 300mg
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine 400mg
-Valerian Root 562.5mg
-5HTP 99mg

(Soon to add )
-DSIP

Definitely not a good sleep this time round. Other than the early wake up to go to work, had a night episode where I was itching everywhere. Not sure if clomid/nolva has something to do with it.

Sleep Score : 4 / 10

Peptide Plan today
SS-31 2mg
NAD+
Motsc
Reta (@Prymal)
GHK-Cu 1mg
TA-1
KLOW (@Prymal)
BPC-157 0.5mg
TB-500
KPV 0.5mg
DSIP (@Prymal )
Selank 1mg
Semax

 

[OwEv751]

I'm looking at this one:

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Thanks for looking into my bloodwork! I thought they look ok at first but based on what you are saying, this is concerning?

I started hcg/hmg 2 weeks ago then stopped 4 days before my new blood work. Doing clomid/nolva right now.

 

[LevButlerov]

Sorry to be clear. The bloods you just saw was from 2 week's ago. I got new bloods done today and waiting for results now. Will post once received (expecting tomorrow or Thursday)

I get it sorry misunderstood

 

[bss]

Thanks for looking into my bloodwork! I thought they look ok at first but based on what you are saying, this is concerning?

I started hcg/hmg 2 weeks ago then stopped 4 days before my new blood work. Doing clomid/nolva right now.

Sorry to hear about the rough night brother, the itching could definitely be a histamine response from the clomid/nolva combo. Keep an eye on it. What did the bloods come back looking like? Keen to see how the HPTA is recovering, I know the feeling going from suppressed to trying to get things firing again

 

[OwEv751]

PCT Update

Finally got my bloods back. Shocked is to say the least. Even after 6 months prior, my HPTA kickstarted and is seemingly overloaded at the moment.

There are some great numbers and worrying numbers as well. I'm at the point where I think Clomid50/Nolva40 per day right now may not be appropriate anymore. Thoughts?

I can also see other scary looking numbers like super low Prolactin which might be a lab error?

Also why am I insanely insulin sensitive...?

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