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Are you looking to get bigger shoulders? stronger V shaped upper body? if so, you need this information...read more......
http://www.evolutionary.org/shoulder-training/
http://www.evolutionary.org/shoulder-training/
I strict standing Over head Barbell press (OHP) 4 x12-15 1x/wk, with either face pulls or strict rear delt fly's (1-2 sec pause at the top)
Then do a combo set of (OHP) with behind neck press 1x/wk for 2 sets Heavy. I don't recommend people try heavy behind neck press their first few years of liftng but it will build the mid and posterior delts and traps.
Also do some Meadow mountain dog 6 ways to warm up or end each lift session. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-cCXkSi7IQ
I hope ya'll know who John Meadows is, dude has crazy shoulder and back size.
Then do a combo set of (OHP) with behind neck press 1x/wk for 2 sets Heavy. I don't recommend people try heavy behind neck press their first few years of liftng but it will build the mid and posterior delts and traps.
Also do some Meadow mountain dog 6 ways to warm up or end each lift session. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-cCXkSi7IQ
I hope ya'll know who John Meadows is, dude has crazy shoulder and back size.
I swear that my upper chest/back/shoulder bulkiness came from doing heavy static presses, where you load up the bar with more than one rep max weight and simply press up an inch or two and hold for as long as possible, then next week try increasing the weight 20%...
Military press statics, decline press statics and close grip statics I used to do often, and got up to over 500 lbs with military and close grip, 600 lbs on declines, holding for about 10 seconds...
It is a feeling I have never been able to reproduce via any other method...a feeling of complete and utter exhaustion of the muscle and almost like its jello but the crazy part is after you do those you go right into the actual excercises and even tho you are tired that weight feels like its a feather in comparison...
Strongly urge people to try statics...you get a natural hardness and denseness in the muscle that I haven't been able to duplicate in other ways, plus it strengthens your joints/tendons as well
Military press statics, decline press statics and close grip statics I used to do often, and got up to over 500 lbs with military and close grip, 600 lbs on declines, holding for about 10 seconds...
It is a feeling I have never been able to reproduce via any other method...a feeling of complete and utter exhaustion of the muscle and almost like its jello but the crazy part is after you do those you go right into the actual excercises and even tho you are tired that weight feels like its a feather in comparison...
Strongly urge people to try statics...you get a natural hardness and denseness in the muscle that I haven't been able to duplicate in other ways, plus it strengthens your joints/tendons as well
standing is good too...he is wearing a belt he is getting zero lower back and core work.
yep, no idea of just how much but i'd say a lot.
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/do_you_really_need_a_lifting_belt
I never wear a belt, if I had when I was pushing my upper limits of deads and squats I'd easily gained 20-30+ lbs /lift.
Again another reason when ppl post up their lifts u have to ask a million questions lol.
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I've been working Shoulders twice a Week for a while now, and it does work a lot better.
I like the Hammer Strength for Very Heavy Front Presses, you can Load that Puppy up and don't need a Spotter (don't have a training partner)
I also like the Variable Motion Smith machine for behind the neck presses.........................................JP
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Variable Motion Smith - is not Locked into that Static up and down - it can move Backward and Forward for about 4'
I like the Hammer Strength for Very Heavy Front Presses, you can Load that Puppy up and don't need a Spotter (don't have a training partner)
I also like the Variable Motion Smith machine for behind the neck presses.........................................JP
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Variable Motion Smith - is not Locked into that Static up and down - it can move Backward and Forward for about 4'
WTF....I am trying to get a visual on that machine. I have never seen one. Sounds pretty cool.
Picture a Regular Smith
Now Picture one that is Roughly 4' Deep.
Now Imagine one that has the Graduated Hooks, but at both ends, so the Bar can be Re-racked at Either end.
So it rides up and down on Rails, but when you Lift it off the Hook, now it's free to move Back and Forth within that Box.............................JP
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It's Perfect, because it doesn't Restrain your movement.
You're not going up and down with only a Few Inches back to front.
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It's at my Gym, and I've seen it at a Few Others in Philly.
Gym I use has a lot of hammer strength equipment...I used the shit out of it when my shoulder got effed up from Flat Bench. I like how u can do single arm work with them.
Mine respond well to heavy deadlifts and holding it in the locked out position for as long as you can on the last rep
krazieone56
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Ya we have those at my gym for over head press incline and tradition press. You can also separate hands so you can hold one hand out or up while u do 3-5 reps w one hand holding the other on a static position then switch. Its bad ass my shoulder s have grown from doing over head and the static stuff. I do it 3 times a week. I swear by it. My traps delta and upper chest have never been fuller
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krazieone56
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Hummm...are you sure its not the Tren?
jk
krazieone56
New Member
Well, probly a combination of both tren and hard mother fucking work son!
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Yeah, I won't even Bother with a Gym that doesn't have Hammer Strength or something similar.
I rarely have a Training Partner, and don't want to ask someone I don't know to Spot me on a Very Heavy Lift.
That's how you get Hurt, I've seen it happen....................................... JP
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I also really like Heavy DB's for Shoulder's.
If I use anything above 75 lbs - then I either do a Y-press or an Arnold Press - less chance of a Shoulder Strain.
Also, you can get Very Deep.
krazieone56
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Ya those machine are sick too. Me have those too
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Oldjarhead
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I like to do all cable resistance training on Wednesday and all free weight training on Saturdays for my shoulders .
Most Definitely, Variety is the Key to Muscle Growth.
You've got to keep the Muscle's Guessing, because once they get used to a Routine, End of Growth............................................ JP
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Plus Variety keeps the Workout Fresh.
Yeah some good stuff in here gunna switch it up now
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