Something to think about...

[muskate]

Mathematically, if A=B and B=C then A=C.

However, in a real world sense - this isn't always the case. Here are 2 examples.

1. A great photographer needs a great camera, but a great camera doesn't make a great photographer

2. A great bodybuilder needs a great gym to train in, but training in a great gym doesn't make someone a great bodybuilder.

What I am getting at with this is as follows:
Drugs are a part of the sport FOR SURE. Steroids (and lots of them) are needed to be Mr. Olympia...but at the same time, taking a bunch of steroids won't make you Mr. Olympia.

I had an 18 year old kid email me today for training help who was running over 3g of anabolics a week. I honestly didn't think he even had a gym membership by looking at his pictures. Drugs are just one small piece of the muscle building pie.

 

[sregainz]

That's awful especially at 18... So many years of natty goodness to build on.


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[stevesmi]

the reality is that most people at the gym are on steroids (or have used steroids), unfortunately most people at the gym don't look like they lift

 

[aggirl]

This is very true....but look at how the world looks at steriods, juice, sauce whatever you call it.

We've all fell victim to "if I took steriods id look like that to"....that offends me because no you wouldn't. Pushing your self to the point of exhaustion, doing that extra rep and then doing 2 more negatives, eating etc etc isn't even a factor to people....they don't think of it. They think...o she's muscular or hes a giant.....they must take steriods.

How about the term "it's like chocolate cake on steroids"....in other words its such good chocolate cake that we had to use the term "its on steriods".

 

[AddarInc]

3G's... Are you fucking kidding me. Wow weeeee

 

[sregainz]

Muskate, sorry to bother this thread, but could you check my last two questions on my trt thread. Very much appreciated- I would PM but didn't realize I wasn't quite there count wise


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[drippie]

Everything equal, steroids are everything.

My gains on my first cycle in 3 months were better than the last 17 years natty combined. Everything is equal, except the juice.

What is important is: first cycle does not always equal first cycle.
I have 17 years natty experience to put towards the first cycle. Starting a cycle at 18 there is zero experience to add to a cycle.

 

[LevButlerov]

Mathematically, if A=B and B=C then A=C.

However, in a real world sense - this isn't always the case. Here are 2 examples.

1. A great photographer needs a great camera, but a great camera doesn't make a great photographer

2. A great bodybuilder needs a great gym to train in, but training in a great gym doesn't make someone a great bodybuilder.

What I am getting at with this is as follows:
Drugs are a part of the sport FOR SURE. Steroids (and lots of them) are needed to be Mr. Olympia...but at the same time, taking a bunch of steroids won't make you Mr. Olympia.

I had an 18 year old kid email me today for training help who was running over 3g of anabolics a week. I honestly didn't think he even had a gym membership by looking at his pictures. Drugs are just one small piece of the muscle building pie.

Amen for these words - I would sign below each one of them! Few people understand that even when you are using gear, you need to work your ass off, and have to eat well. It just won't do it if you do none of these.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

This is a prime example of why it is so important to build a 5 year consistency in the gym and with your diet before using PED's...otherwise you will end up wasting money, gear, and possibly hurting yourself in the long run.

 

[muskate]

Muskate, sorry to bother this thread, but could you check my last two questions on my trt thread. Very much appreciated- I would PM but didn't realize I wasn't quite there count wise


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I sent you a PM with my email because I don't know which thread you are talking about.

 

[sregainz]

I sent you a PM with my email because I don't know which thread you are talking about.

Thanks and emailed : )

 

[black-elephant]

Mathematically, if A=B and B=C then A=C.

However, in a real world sense - this isn't always the case. Here are 2 examples.

1. A great photographer needs a great camera, but a great camera doesn't make a great photographer

2. A great bodybuilder needs a great gym to train in, but training in a great gym doesn't make someone a great bodybuilder.

What I am getting at with this is as follows:
Drugs are a part of the sport FOR SURE. Steroids (and lots of them) are needed to be Mr. Olympia...but at the same time, taking a bunch of steroids won't make you Mr. Olympia.

I had an 18 year old kid email me today for training help who was running over 3g of anabolics a week. I honestly didn't think he even had a gym membership by looking at his pictures. Drugs are just one small piece of the muscle building pie.

Education implies causality and desires a logical connection. However, there are two types of causality when considering cause and effect.

1. Direct causality (As indicated in your mathematical example)
2. Indirect causality (As a component of multiple stimuli)

 

[invincible]

this shit is no joke... its serious business,, aas is seriuos.. you need knowledgable people.. blood work , not everything works the same for everyone...

I see kids doing stupid things, they dont even mastered the lifts yet.. crazy..
and lets not mix occasional vs seroius use like olympia.. there is a diffrence..
I am just amazed how many young people want to be on trt forever.. we are talking about decades.. this is not just few years.. you might want a family one day...
i rather have the abblitiy of my own body to regulate stuff.. and i do realize at some point test goes down.. so you might want some test to keep you healthy at older age..


my advice is , thing hard ahead of time..

 

[Zman111]

what most youngsters don't understand is to get a nice physique its 80 precent nutrition 10 precent training 10 precent juice......... if you cant get your nutrition right you can juice till you are blue in the face and not much will happen......

 

[fraz_732000]

the worst! don't know why young gen all over the world fell for roids that much,sad!

 

[wags]

This is very true....but look at how the world looks at steriods, juice, sauce whatever you call it.

We've all fell victim to "if I took steriods id look like that to"....that offends me because no you wouldn't. Pushing your self to the point of exhaustion, doing that extra rep and then doing 2 more negatives, eating etc etc isn't even a factor to people....they don't think of it. They think...o she's muscular or hes a giant.....they must take steriods.

How about the term "it's like chocolate cake on steroids"....in other words its such good chocolate cake that we had to use the term "its on steriods".

You are very right!!! Hell we all are RIGHT and the rest of the world is indeed all WRONG! F#$%& the haters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!